Re: I really have too many lenses

2021-04-14 Thread Juan Buhler
OK now I feel bad.

Larry--it's Mike's Camera in Menlo Park.

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Downtown Ulan Bator Mongolia Camera Shop

2021-04-14 Thread Bipin Gupta
Alan Sir, in fact I was in this Camera Shop last year - just before
the Covid ruckus - and saw a used Pentax 16-50/2.8 in excellent
condition for MNT (Mongolian Tugrik) 555,750 or US $ 195.and a Sigma
150-500 mm f5-6.3 APO DG HSM Lens for MNT 912,000 (USD 320).
Since I already had an older Bigma and the Pentax 16-50 I did not pick them up.
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Re: Photo gear storage, crazy idea

2021-04-14 Thread Mark C
I remember someone recommending diaper bags for photo gear, but that was 
back when the bags were printed with garish designs that made it utterly 
obvious that they were for diapers. I just looked at the current lineup 
of diaper bags on Amazon and they look pretty much as nice as most 
camera bags.


Maybe get some bio hazard stickers and slap them on generic plastic 
bins? They'd not only deter thieves but would be interesting 
conversation pieces if you get pulled over on the road...


Mark



On 4/12/2021 7:04 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

I would like a better way of storing camera gear which keeps it well protected, 
and ideally in a manner that if someone sees it in my van doesn’t scream that 
it is filled with valuables.

My clever idea is that I could make trays that fit in an ice chest to hold 
lenses, speed lights etc.  Ice chests are weather resistant, and with their 
double wall construction, would provide better protection than the standard 
camera bag.  There would be some sort of trick to making the trays to hold 
lenses, or whatever.

I doubt that I am the first person to come up with this idea, and it would be 
handy to learn from other people’s mistakes.

FWIW, There is now a wide range of stackable toolboxes, Home Depot sells some 
made by Rigid, that also work pretty well for this, but they do have the 
disadvantage of looking like they might contain something valuable, if someone 
were to see them in the back of my van.
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Re: And now for something different

2021-04-14 Thread Gonz
Bookmarked!

Thank you Juan.

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> Gonz,
>
> In order to go from 2048D to 2D, there are a couple of techniques for
> dimensionality reduction out there. I'm using the most common one. Look
> here:
>
> https://lvdmaaten.github.io/tsne/
>
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Re: And now for something different

2021-04-14 Thread Juan Buhler
Gonz,

In order to go from 2048D to 2D, there are a couple of techniques for
dimensionality reduction out there. I'm using the most common one. Look
here:

https://lvdmaaten.github.io/tsne/

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Re: OT: Backroad Buildings photo book

2021-04-14 Thread ann sanfedele
I missed a couple posts on this topic  - just doubled back to pick up on 
the thread and was about to say exactly that, Ken!


Have you seen NOMADLAND yet?  not to be missed..

ann

On 4/3/2021 12:08 PM, Ken Waller wrote:

Don’t forget the ‘Wall Drug Store’ signs.


-Original Message-

From: John 
Sent: Apr 3, 2021 1:50 AM
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: OT: Backroad Buildings photo book

Burma-Shave signs were fun. And "See Rock City" painted on barn roofs.

Stuckey's and "South of the Border" signs existed BEFORE I-95.

I was lucky my family made a couple of road trips out to California (from NC)
while I was still at home and I got to see Route 66 in 1960 before I-40 replaced
most of it.

We went again in 1964 and by then most of the trip was on Interstates. But they
hadn't completely replaced the old highways.

The 1964 trip was when the Ranger at The Petrified Forest directed my dad to
pull off "where they were building the new highway" (I-40) "and we could pick up
all the petrified wood we wanted" because it was outside of the National Park.

In 1960 we saw the Grand Canyon (even if we only did get to spend an hour before
we had to get back on the road) & the Meteor Crater.

In 1964 we saw the Giant Redwoods & Yosemite, taking California Hwy 120 east
eventually ending up on US 95 in Nevada ... I won 20¢ from a dime slot machine
in the lobby of a Howard Johnson's Restaurant in Las Vegas before the waitress
saw me and FREAKED OUT ... we drove across the Hoover Dam and visited Mesa 
Verde.


On 4/2/2021 22:07:21, ann sanfedele wrote:

As a child there was much auto travelling on these two lane roads most often in
the midwest and southeast..
I remember fondly Burma-Shave signs... I'm guessing some of you guys here
remember them as well.
ann
On 4/2/2021 9:12 PM, John wrote:

I believe the mystery shed was from a local "chain" of roadside peanut stands.
I've seen several of them at one time or another traveling through the 
Carolinas.

I think they date from the 50s before the advent of the Interstate Highway,
when the old two-lane highways went through local communities.

On 3/31/2021 16:50:34, ann sanfedele wrote:

The gas stations do it for me.. and yes, that last photo  of the truck stop
especially...and that crazy mystery shed!
guess I should start hauling out some of mine in this genre... which I
actually had started to search for thinking of  next years calendar.
a phonebook, eh?  is this a "thing" now?  books meant to be viewed on
smartphones?

ann

On 3/31/2021 3:50 PM, Bob Pdml wrote:

I love that last building, the deco one. Some others with very nice
architecture too.


On 31 Mar 2021, at 20:21, Stanley Halpin  wrote:

As seen in the Guardian today, a new phonebook just out: Backroad
Buildings. Based on the samples in the article (linked below) these are the
sort of scenes that really resonate with me, and many of my own favorite
shots are in this genre.

https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/gallery/2021/mar/31/americas-backroads-buildings-in-pictures?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other


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Re: And now for something different

2021-04-14 Thread Gonz
It all sounds pretty straightforward, but I'm curious about the last
step of folding 2048D -> 2D.  Must involve some kind of clustering?
How is this done?  This seems key.

--gonz

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> > Just out of curiosity, what was the input to the Neural Network?
> > Keywords, descriptions?
>
> No, it's just the pixels themselves. I'm using a pretrained convolutional
> neural network, or CNN. You know how Google Photos is able to separate
> photos into categories, with dogs, food, mountains, etc? That is done with
> a neural network of the same type.
>
> These CNNs will output the confidence they have that an image belongs to
> one of many classes they were trained for. But in the process they compute
> a vector that sort of encodes what "features" exist in the image. Features
> are things like lines, dots, patterns, and also combinations of things that
> might form "higher level features", like eyes, bicycle wheels, etc etc.
> These vectors are of very high dimension, in this case 2048.
>
> It turns out that points in this 2048-D space will be close to each other
> if the images they come from are similar to each other.
>
> The process I'm using computes and saves this vector for each image. That
> alone allows me to do image similarity search, by comparing these vectors.
>
> In order to make the plot, I use a technique that "folds" those 2048
> dimensions into two, so I can find a position for each image on the plane.
>
> Hopefully I succeeded in making that explanation not too technical?
>
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> On Sun, Apr 4, 2021 at 1:53 AM  wrote:
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> > Interesting Juan!
> >
> >
> > > On 3 Apr 2021, at 23:22, Juan Buhler  wrote:
> > >
> > > I made a plot of about 3000 of my photos (all posted to my photoblog over
> > > the years) according to positions in the plane that come from a neural
> > > network.
> > >
> > > Without getting into technical detail: images that are close to each
> > other
> > > are semantically similar to each other. So there are areas of photos with
> > > dogs, others with bicycles, on the beach, etc etc.
> > >
> > > https://twitter.com/juanbuhler/status/1378455676444270593
> > >
> > > To see the high res image and zoom in, look at the file directly:
> > >
> > > https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EyFA3LlU4Ag0QRQ?format=jpg=4096x4096
> > >
> >
> > Just out of curiosity, what was the input to the Neural Network?
> >
> > Keywords, descriptions?
> >
> >
> > > I thought it was an interesting way of seeing a collection of photos and
> > > discovering emerging visual themes. Also it's what I do for a living so I
> > > figured why not.
> > >
> >
> > Indeed, touching on ‘big data’ ;-)
> >
> >
> > Regards, JvW
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Re: Well here's a Takumar you don't see every day...

2021-04-14 Thread John

As long as I have the FA-600/4 I don't "need" a 560.

On 4/14/2021 03:24:00, Toine wrote:

What about the current 560?

On Wed, 14 Apr 2021 at 08:53, John  wrote:


By coinkydense, yesterday I paid off the credit card I used to buy the FA-600/4.

I'd like to enjoy being debt free for a little while, so hopefully Pentax won't
come out with a modern version of that lens any time soon.

On 4/12/2021 16:25:07, Larry Colen wrote:

If they made a modern version of this lens there would be Pentaxians selling 
their plasma to come up with the money to buy one.



On Apr 12, 2021, at 1:20 PM, Darren Addy  wrote:

Not my auction:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Asahi-Pentax-100mm-f2-Takumar-Lens-100-2-M42-Mount-RARE-563/402677279305

Sample images:
https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/10-pentax-slr-lens-discussion/227434-so-rare-there-no-samples-pf.html

http://www.sample-image.com/takumar-100mm-f2/

This page says 1400 were made but only 29 seen in the wild since 2010:
https://takumarguide.weebly.com/1--2--100.html

Were I a millionaire it would already be mine.

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Re: DP initial review of K-3 III

2021-04-14 Thread Gonz
Too much money for me.  Being an slr, its still going to have
difficulty getting as good of focus as mirrorless, though I'm not
ready to jump there yet.  I can still focus using the live view
magnified for landscapes or portraits, but it sure would be nice to be
able to get a really accurate focus for more dynamic situations, my
eyesight being what it is.  I'll stick to my K1 and the APC pentaxes I
have already.

Anybody tested the new 77?

--R

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> https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/pentax-k-3-mark-iii-initial-review
> Recommended price is $ 2000.
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Re: gfm npw alternate

2021-04-14 Thread Gonz
Its hard to beat GFM for its incredible photogenic areas.  I do think
however, that Big Bend National park in southwest Texas is pretty
incredible, with its crazy scenic vistas, wildlife, and amazing dark
night skies.  Arches national park in Utah is also mind blowingly
beautiful, as well as other parks in Utah.  All of these sites
however, are going to be hot for the summer and they would be much
nicer in late fall.

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> Would anyone be interested in an alternative PDML gathering this Spring?
> I'd be happy to help with something in the mid-Atlantic.  Maybe a state
> park in PA or NY.  I'd also be willing to travel to the south or midWest.
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Re: PESO: More fantails

2021-04-14 Thread lrc
Great photos

On April 13, 2021 1:47:49 AM PDT, David Mann  wrote:
>Yeah, sorry, it's fantails again (I'm very fond of them).  We had three
>of them in our garden this morning.  One of them came to check me out. 
>They're quite tame as people often disturb the insects they feed on.  I
>had to keep stepping back because it'd come within the minimum focus
>distance of my lens (2m, about 6').
>
>http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/1115/#peso
>http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/1116/#peso
>
>Once again I was fighting for light so I had to bring up the exposure
>in ACR.
>
>Pentax K5ii, FA*400mm f/5.6, 1/750 at f/5.6, ISO3200
>
>Cheers,
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Re: PESO: butterfly season started

2021-04-14 Thread ann sanfedele

Wow - great *camouflage* on his wing!  beautiful shot

ann

On 4/14/2021 3:00 AM, Henk Terhell wrote:
The temperature in this spring has for the most part been low here, 
but now I see more butterflies coming.
I catched an orange tip (Anthocharis cardamines) which usually are 
quite restless.


https://flic.kr/p/2kSNF55

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Re: PESO: More fantails

2021-04-14 Thread ann sanfedele
they  look like a longer tailed version of our chickadees .. who are 
also quite tame .. I very much like taht first one - sweet expression 
and he does look inquisitive


ann

On 4/13/2021 4:47 AM, David Mann wrote:

Yeah, sorry, it's fantails again (I'm very fond of them).  We had three of them 
in our garden this morning.  One of them came to check me out.  They're quite 
tame as people often disturb the insects they feed on.  I had to keep stepping 
back because it'd come within the minimum focus distance of my lens (2m, about 
6').

http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/1115/#peso
http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/1116/#peso

Once again I was fighting for light so I had to bring up the exposure in ACR.

Pentax K5ii, FA*400mm f/5.6, 1/750 at f/5.6, ISO3200

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PESO: butterfly season started

2021-04-14 Thread Henk Terhell
The temperature in this spring has for the most part been low here, but 
now I see more butterflies coming.
I catched an orange tip (Anthocharis cardamines) which usually are quite 
restless.


https://flic.kr/p/2kSNF55

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Re: PESO: More fantails

2021-04-14 Thread David Mann
A fantail came inside at my daughter's preschool today and fluttered around the 
building for a few minutes before finding its way back out.

According to Maori legend, if a fantail comes indoors it's a harbinger of 
death.  But she found two four-leaf clovers in the lawn beforehand so maybe 
it'll cancel out.

Cheers,
Dave

> On Apr 13, 2021, at 8:57 PM, Toine  wrote:
> 
> great capture. and a beautiful bird
> 
> Toine
> 
> On Tue, 13 Apr 2021 at 10:47, David Mann  wrote:
>> 
>> Yeah, sorry, it's fantails again (I'm very fond of them).  We had three of 
>> them in our garden this morning.  One of them came to check me out.  They're 
>> quite tame as people often disturb the insects they feed on.  I had to keep 
>> stepping back because it'd come within the minimum focus distance of my lens 
>> (2m, about 6').
>> 
>> http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/1115/#peso
>> http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/1116/#peso
>> 
>> Once again I was fighting for light so I had to bring up the exposure in ACR.
>> 
>> Pentax K5ii, FA*400mm f/5.6, 1/750 at f/5.6, ISO3200
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Dave
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Re: I really have too many lenses

2021-04-14 Thread Alan C
A chap I knew was in that shop last year. He said they had an 
FA*250-600/5.6 on offer for only $200 which was a pity because he shoots 
C*non.


Alan C

On 14-Apr-21 05:55 AM, Juan Buhler wrote:

Downtown Ulan Bator ;)

j

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On Apr 13, 2021, at 18:09, l...@red4est.com wrote:

Where is this camera shop?
Asking for a friend.


On April 13, 2021 5:52:13 PM PDT, Juan Buhler  wrote:
I just dropped by my local camera shop.

They often have old lenses for sale, apparently from people who trade
them
in.

I got a Mamiya 50/2 M42 and a Vivitar Series 1 200/3.5, for $10 each.
The
Vivitar is in t-mount, it came with a Miranda mount but I already have
an
M42 for it.

But then I couldn't resist and also picked up a Super-Takumar 150/4 for
$55, This one wasn't quite a bargain, that's basically what you can
find
them for on ebay. But it is pristine, with cap, the metal hood and even
the
passed sticker still on.

I can stop anytime I want,

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Re: Well here's a Takumar you don't see every day...

2021-04-14 Thread Toine
What about the current 560?

On Wed, 14 Apr 2021 at 08:53, John  wrote:
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> By coinkydense, yesterday I paid off the credit card I used to buy the 
> FA-600/4.
>
> I'd like to enjoy being debt free for a little while, so hopefully Pentax 
> won't
> come out with a modern version of that lens any time soon.
>
> On 4/12/2021 16:25:07, Larry Colen wrote:
> > If they made a modern version of this lens there would be Pentaxians 
> > selling their plasma to come up with the money to buy one.
> >
> >
> >> On Apr 12, 2021, at 1:20 PM, Darren Addy  wrote:
> >>
> >> Not my auction:
> >> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Asahi-Pentax-100mm-f2-Takumar-Lens-100-2-M42-Mount-RARE-563/402677279305
> >>
> >> Sample images:
> >> https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/10-pentax-slr-lens-discussion/227434-so-rare-there-no-samples-pf.html
> >>
> >> http://www.sample-image.com/takumar-100mm-f2/
> >>
> >> This page says 1400 were made but only 29 seen in the wild since 2010:
> >> https://takumarguide.weebly.com/1--2--100.html
> >>
> >> Were I a millionaire it would already be mine.
> >>
> >> Darren Addy
> >> Kearney, Nebraska
> >>
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Re: PESO: butterfly season started

2021-04-14 Thread Toine
Nice catch!

On Wed, 14 Apr 2021 at 09:00, Henk Terhell  wrote:
>
> The temperature in this spring has for the most part been low here, but
> now I see more butterflies coming.
> I catched an orange tip (Anthocharis cardamines) which usually are quite
> restless.
>
> https://flic.kr/p/2kSNF55
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Re: Well here's a Takumar you don't see every day...

2021-04-14 Thread John

By coinkydense, yesterday I paid off the credit card I used to buy the FA-600/4.

I'd like to enjoy being debt free for a little while, so hopefully Pentax won't 
come out with a modern version of that lens any time soon.


On 4/12/2021 16:25:07, Larry Colen wrote:

If they made a modern version of this lens there would be Pentaxians selling 
their plasma to come up with the money to buy one.



On Apr 12, 2021, at 1:20 PM, Darren Addy  wrote:

Not my auction:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Asahi-Pentax-100mm-f2-Takumar-Lens-100-2-M42-Mount-RARE-563/402677279305

Sample images:
https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/10-pentax-slr-lens-discussion/227434-so-rare-there-no-samples-pf.html

http://www.sample-image.com/takumar-100mm-f2/

This page says 1400 were made but only 29 seen in the wild since 2010:
https://takumarguide.weebly.com/1--2--100.html

Were I a millionaire it would already be mine.

Darren Addy
Kearney, Nebraska

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