Re: PKA -> E
> On Jul 26, 2021, at 3:48 PM, Bob Pdml wrote: > > The EVF on my Olympus E-m1 Mk II is very good. When I first looked through > the camera I didn’t realise it was mirrorless. That model is quite long in > the tooth now - I assume they have improved on it in more recent models. > > One of the things I like which you can’t do with an optical vf is see the > effect of changes to the exposure. Many years ago when I was photographing a bunch of blues dancing in crazy low light, my friends with u4/3 had much better luck focusing using the f/0.95 lens and focus peaking on manual focus than I did with the Pentax. EVF has its advantages and its disadvantages. I suspect that it would not work well for John shooting motorsports, but for any subject that is reasonably static it should be good enough for framing, composition etc. In very low light it is often much better for things like composition because you can actually see what the camera will see. When I’m doing astro, and astrolandscape, I find live view invaluable for focusing on a bright star or planet to set my focus to infinity. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PKA -> E
The EVF on my Olympus E-m1 Mk II is very good. When I first looked through the camera I didn’t realise it was mirrorless. That model is quite long in the tooth now - I assume they have improved on it in more recent models. One of the things I like which you can’t do with an optical vf is see the effect of changes to the exposure. > On 26 Jul 2021, at 23:21, P. J. Alling wrote: > > Last time I seriously looked which was a couple of years ago, I tried out a > high end Olympus and a high end Fuji, I was seriously impressed. There was > an occasional lag and the image looked a bit artificial, but seemed usable. > I thought a K mount camera with a good EVF would be fine for low light work, > though I'd prefer a DSLR for any conditions where "I" could actually see. > >> On 7/26/2021 2:50 PM, Alan C wrote: >> How good are the EVF's on the latest mirrorless cameras. The one on my >> wife's Fuji is rather blurry at high zooms. Sadly, the K-01 didn't have one. >> An optical turret or a loupe are possible options. >> -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PKA -> E
Last time I seriously looked which was a couple of years ago, I tried out a high end Olympus and a high end Fuji, I was seriously impressed. There was an occasional lag and the image looked a bit artificial, but seemed usable. I thought a K mount camera with a good EVF would be fine for low light work, though I'd prefer a DSLR for any conditions where "I" could actually see. On 7/26/2021 2:50 PM, Alan C wrote: How good are the EVF's on the latest mirrorless cameras. The one on my wife's Fuji is rather blurry at high zooms. Sadly, the K-01 didn't have one. An optical turret or a loupe are possible options. Alan C On 26-Jul-21 03:04 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: The sad part is adapter, paired with a Sony mirrorless camera is one of the formulations I thought would be a long term success for the Pentax K01. On 7/25/2021 10:31 PM, Ken Waller wrote: I’m pretty sure it is made of unobtanium. -Original Message- From: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Sent: Jul 25, 2021 9:51 PM To: Subject: Re: PKA -> E I'm not saying you're wrong, but this seems more like a limited production, rather than a mass production item. So it would of course be more expensive for what you get. On 7/25/2021 8:45 PM, John wrote: No, nothing like that. When you wrote "buying a third of a K-70" it > made me curious how much the K-70 cost. That's all. On 7/24/2021 18:07:56, P. J. Alling wrote: I assume that the adapter is made of the more expensive mechanical >> parts, and at a much lower volume so there would be a much lower >> return due to the economics of scale. That is unless you have good >> numbers on the quantity of Sony users who see serious quality in >> Pentax Auto Focus lenses. On 7/24/2021 2:24 PM, John wrote: K-70 is only about a hundred dollars more than the adapter $546.95 >>> vs $439.00 for the adapter. On 7/24/2021 11:53:09, P. J. Alling wrote: You know, sometimes I know what I'm talking about. (Too bad the quotes list is gone...) On 7/24/2021 7:42 AM, Alan C wrote: Thanks John. Now I understand why PJ says you're buying a third of > a K-70! Alan C On 24-Jul-21 07:57 AM, John Francis wrote: I assume there's a motor in the adapter (drawing power from the >> camera). The first two pictures (the lens-facing side) show a screw-drive >> shaft, and also the two contacts that could provide power and digital >> signals for newer AF lenses, and may even provide power for power zoom >> lenses! I'd guess there would also need to be a microprocessor to translate between the various signalling protocols, but that's not going to >> add a whole lot to the cost. On Sat, Jul 24, 2021 at 06:50:45AM +0200, Alan C wrote: How on earth is screw drive AF possible? Alan C On 23-Jul-21 09:43 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: I've never seen one so expensive before, but then again I've never seen an adapter that also adapts screw drive AF either. I kind of doubt that you'll find anything cheaper that actually will auto focus a K mount lens on a mirrorless body.?? You'll be buying about a third of the working bits of a K-70. On 7/23/2021 3:33 PM, coll...@brendemuehl.net wrote: To use my lenses on an e-mount body is there a less-expensive yet full-featured adapter alternative to the Monster? https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1627137-REG/monster_adapter_la_ke1_pe > ntax_k_to_sony.html -- >>> -- America wasn't founded so that we could all be better. America was founded so we could all be anything we damn well please. - P.J. O'Rourke -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Ken Waller -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- America wasn't founded so that we could all be better. America was founded so we could all be anything we damn well please. - P.J. O'Rourke -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PKA -> E
How good are the EVF's on the latest mirrorless cameras. The one on my wife's Fuji is rather blurry at high zooms. Sadly, the K-01 didn't have one. An optical turret or a loupe are possible options. Alan C On 26-Jul-21 03:04 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: The sad part is adapter, paired with a Sony mirrorless camera is one of the formulations I thought would be a long term success for the Pentax K01. On 7/25/2021 10:31 PM, Ken Waller wrote: I’m pretty sure it is made of unobtanium. -Original Message- From: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Sent: Jul 25, 2021 9:51 PM To: Subject: Re: PKA -> E I'm not saying you're wrong, but this seems more like a limited production, rather than a mass production item. So it would of course be more expensive for what you get. On 7/25/2021 8:45 PM, John wrote: No, nothing like that. When you wrote "buying a third of a K-70" it > made me curious how much the K-70 cost. That's all. On 7/24/2021 18:07:56, P. J. Alling wrote: I assume that the adapter is made of the more expensive mechanical >> parts, and at a much lower volume so there would be a much lower >> return due to the economics of scale. That is unless you have good >> numbers on the quantity of Sony users who see serious quality in >> Pentax Auto Focus lenses. On 7/24/2021 2:24 PM, John wrote: K-70 is only about a hundred dollars more than the adapter $546.95 >>> vs $439.00 for the adapter. On 7/24/2021 11:53:09, P. J. Alling wrote: You know, sometimes I know what I'm talking about. (Too bad the quotes list is gone...) On 7/24/2021 7:42 AM, Alan C wrote: Thanks John. Now I understand why PJ says you're buying a third of > a K-70! Alan C On 24-Jul-21 07:57 AM, John Francis wrote: I assume there's a motor in the adapter (drawing power from the >> camera). The first two pictures (the lens-facing side) show a screw-drive >> shaft, and also the two contacts that could provide power and digital >> signals for newer AF lenses, and may even provide power for power zoom >> lenses! I'd guess there would also need to be a microprocessor to translate between the various signalling protocols, but that's not going to >> add a whole lot to the cost. On Sat, Jul 24, 2021 at 06:50:45AM +0200, Alan C wrote: How on earth is screw drive AF possible? Alan C On 23-Jul-21 09:43 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: I've never seen one so expensive before, but then again I've never seen an adapter that also adapts screw drive AF either. I kind of doubt that you'll find anything cheaper that actually will auto focus a K mount lens on a mirrorless body.?? You'll be buying about a third of the working bits of a K-70. On 7/23/2021 3:33 PM, coll...@brendemuehl.net wrote: To use my lenses on an e-mount body is there a less-expensive yet full-featured adapter alternative to the Monster? https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1627137-REG/monster_adapter_la_ke1_pe > ntax_k_to_sony.html -- >>> -- America wasn't founded so that we could all be better. America was founded so we could all be anything we damn well please. - P.J. O'Rourke -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Ken Waller -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PKA -> E
The sad part is adapter, paired with a Sony mirrorless camera is one of the formulations I thought would be a long term success for the Pentax K01. On 7/25/2021 10:31 PM, Ken Waller wrote: I’m pretty sure it is made of unobtanium. -Original Message- From: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Sent: Jul 25, 2021 9:51 PM To: Subject: Re: PKA -> E I'm not saying you're wrong, but this seems more like a limited production, rather than a mass production item. So it would of course be more expensive for what you get. On 7/25/2021 8:45 PM, John wrote: No, nothing like that. When you wrote "buying a third of a K-70" it > made me curious how much the K-70 cost. That's all. On 7/24/2021 18:07:56, P. J. Alling wrote: I assume that the adapter is made of the more expensive mechanical >> parts, and at a much lower volume so there would be a much lower >> return due to the economics of scale. That is unless you have good >> numbers on the quantity of Sony users who see serious quality in >> Pentax Auto Focus lenses. On 7/24/2021 2:24 PM, John wrote: K-70 is only about a hundred dollars more than the adapter $546.95 >>> vs $439.00 for the adapter. On 7/24/2021 11:53:09, P. J. Alling wrote: You know, sometimes I know what I'm talking about. (Too bad the quotes list is gone...) On 7/24/2021 7:42 AM, Alan C wrote: Thanks John. Now I understand why PJ says you're buying a third of > a K-70! Alan C On 24-Jul-21 07:57 AM, John Francis wrote: I assume there's a motor in the adapter (drawing power from the >> camera). The first two pictures (the lens-facing side) show a screw-drive >> shaft, and also the two contacts that could provide power and digital >> signals for newer AF lenses, and may even provide power for power zoom >> lenses! I'd guess there would also need to be a microprocessor to translate between the various signalling protocols, but that's not going to >> add a whole lot to the cost. On Sat, Jul 24, 2021 at 06:50:45AM +0200, Alan C wrote: How on earth is screw drive AF possible? Alan C On 23-Jul-21 09:43 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: I've never seen one so expensive before, but then again I've never seen an adapter that also adapts screw drive AF either. I kind of doubt that you'll find anything cheaper that actually will auto focus a K mount lens on a mirrorless body.?? You'll be buying about a third of the working bits of a K-70. On 7/23/2021 3:33 PM, coll...@brendemuehl.net wrote: To use my lenses on an e-mount body is there a less-expensive yet full-featured adapter alternative to the Monster? https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1627137-REG/monster_adapter_la_ke1_pe > ntax_k_to_sony.html -- >>> -- America wasn't founded so that we could all be better. America was founded so we could all be anything we damn well please. - P.J. O'Rourke -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Ken Waller -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- America wasn't founded so that we could all be better. America was founded so we could all be anything we damn well please. - P.J. O'Rourke -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
