Re: Pentax Film Camera News

2023-05-16 Thread Bill
Useless for you is not the same as useless.
Just sayin.
More clarity from you when you put your thoughts to words goes a long way
to avoiding misunderstanding.
As for the Corvette, they are all useless, depending on one's POV.

As an aside, on the 2022 Vette, it's 11 hours of book time to change the
water pump. What is GM thinking when they design these things?

bill

On Tue, May 16, 2023 at 12:02 PM Paul Stenquist 
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> Thisis all a bit silly. I commented that the camera is useless. That was
> my comment, and it applies to me alone. The Corvette metaphor was over the
> top. Enough of this.
>
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Re: OT geso uxbridge trails walk

2023-05-16 Thread David J Brooks
Thanks Bruce. We have lots of forests trails around here

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> I quite enjoyed that gallery, Dave. I love those trilliums you found!
>
> Makes me want to get out in the woods again.
>
> On Mon, May 15, 2023 at 4:33 PM David J Brooks 
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> > From a trail walk last week
> >
> > http://www.caughtinmotion.com/2023-uxbridge2/album/index.html
> >
> > Nikon D7200 Nikor 28-300
> >
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Re: OT geso uxbridge trails walk

2023-05-16 Thread Bruce Walker
I quite enjoyed that gallery, Dave. I love those trilliums you found!

Makes me want to get out in the woods again.

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Re: Pentax Film Camera News

2023-05-16 Thread Mark Roberts
I think a new, fixed-lens film camera is the sort of thing a lot of my students 
would go for. They'd never dream of entering the murky world of second-hand, 
30-year-old film cameras. (Nor should they be.)
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Re: Pentax Film Camera News

2023-05-16 Thread Paul Stenquist
Thisis all a bit silly. I commented that the camera is useless. That was my 
comment, and it applies to me alone. The Corvette metaphor was over the top. 
Enough of this.


> On May 16, 2023, at 1:20 PM, Bill  wrote:
> 
> Paul  you lose any credibility you might have had when you resort to ad
> hominem attacks.
> 
> bill
> 
> On Tue., May 16, 2023, 10:33 a.m. Paul Stenquist, 
> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 16, 2023, at 11:52 AM, Bill  wrote:
>>> 
>>> One could say the same thing about someone's split window Corvette that
>>> spends it's life locked in a trailer, only to be seen at car shows..
>> 
>> Perhaps, if one were given to exaggeration and fuzzy thinking.
>> Yes, the camera has some value, but I think that for most of us, it’s not
>> particularly useful. You can feel differently of course.
>> Paul
>> 
>>> 
>>> If there is full follow through on this, they will be releasing four film
>>> cameras to go after a resurgent market that is being underserved.
>>> Pentax has also announced that the old FA50/1.4 is being given some
>>> cosmetic updates (sadly, no optical ones from the looks of it), into two
>>> sister models which indicates that they are planning something other than
>>> an inexpensive standard prime for digital.
>>> 
>>> bill
>>> 
>>> On Tue, May 16, 2023 at 4:19 AM Paul Stenquist 
>> wrote:
>>> 
 A useless toy.
 
 Paul
 
> On May 16, 2023, at 5:14 AM, Steve Cottrell 
>> wrote:
> 
> 
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Re: Pentax Film Camera News

2023-05-16 Thread Eric Weir

> On May 16, 2023, at 12:34 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> ….
> I have noticed that when there is something that doesn’t appeal to a 
> particular person, they tend to pronounce that it is useless, without 
> considering that it could be a perfect fit for someone else. 
> 
> I think that it is kind of silly for someone to buy a brand new film camera 
> when perfectly servicable ones are practically being given away….

Hmm.

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Re: Pentax Film Camera News

2023-05-16 Thread Bob W PDML

> On 16 May 2023, at 18:34, Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> […]
> 
> I think that it is kind of silly for someone to buy a brand new film camera 
> when perfectly servicable ones are practically being given away.  I 
> personally bought several when I got back into photography because I wanted 
> the lens that came with it.  I honestly lost count of the number of spotties 
> languishing in my drawers, just because I wanted the 50/1.4 supertak that was 
> attached to them.

[…]

The young people buying the used cameras don’t necessarily have the experience 
to know whether they’re buying something that works or not. Last year I had my 
original MX, which I bought new, repaired after it had been languishing in a 
cupboard unused for years. I’ve had to have the repair fixed under warranty. 

But I enjoy using the camera so I decided to buy another MX. I tried and 
returned five, including 2-3 from reputable dealers, not just Joe Random on 
eBay, before I finally found one that is in perfect condition that had been 
serviced by somebody competent.

I also decided I wanted an LX again. I’ve tried two and returned them both, and 
am now having the third serviced by the same competent person who sold me the 
good MX. I had sent it to the technicians with the best reputation here, after 
I shot a roll of ektachrome to flush out any issues. They sent it back 
unusable, telling me it was already broken when I bought it. My reliable guy 
assures me I would not have been able to shoot more than one frame, let alone a 
full roll, if the other tech was correct, and he thinks they broke it. He has 
told me today that he will have it back in my hands in perfect working order by 
the end of next week.

It’s the Wild West out there.

I think if Pentax comes out with something stylish and simple like the 1960s / 
1970s fixed-lens rangefinders (Oly 35 RD et al) at a decent price they’ll be 
onto a winner with a lot of young people around the world.



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Re: Pentax Film Camera News

2023-05-16 Thread Larry Colen
I think that the serape of snark is large enough to cover more than one person 
in this discussion. 

I have noticed that when there is something that doesn’t appeal to a particular 
person, they tend to pronounce that it is useless, without considering that it 
could be a perfect fit for someone else. 

I think that it is kind of silly for someone to buy a brand new film camera 
when perfectly servicable ones are practically being given away.  I personally 
bought several when I got back into photography because I wanted the lens that 
came with it.  I honestly lost count of the number of spotties languishing in 
my drawers, just because I wanted the 50/1.4 supertak that was attached to them.

However, if Ricoh can start getting some cash flow by leveraging the basic guts 
of an incipient film SLR by putting together a simple rangefinder camera, more 
power to them.

> On May 16, 2023, at 10:20 AM, Bill  wrote:
> 
> Paul  you lose any credibility you might have had when you resort to ad
> hominem attacks.
> 
> bill
> 
> On Tue., May 16, 2023, 10:33 a.m. Paul Stenquist, 
> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 16, 2023, at 11:52 AM, Bill  wrote:
>>> 
>>> One could say the same thing about someone's split window Corvette that
>>> spends it's life locked in a trailer, only to be seen at car shows..
>> 
>> Perhaps, if one were given to exaggeration and fuzzy thinking.
>> Yes, the camera has some value, but I think that for most of us, it’s not
>> particularly useful. You can feel differently of course.
>> Paul
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Re: Pentax Film Camera News

2023-05-16 Thread Bill
Paul  you lose any credibility you might have had when you resort to ad
hominem attacks.

bill

On Tue., May 16, 2023, 10:33 a.m. Paul Stenquist, 
wrote:

>
>
> > On May 16, 2023, at 11:52 AM, Bill  wrote:
> >
> > One could say the same thing about someone's split window Corvette that
> > spends it's life locked in a trailer, only to be seen at car shows..
>
> Perhaps, if one were given to exaggeration and fuzzy thinking.
> Yes, the camera has some value, but I think that for most of us, it’s not
> particularly useful. You can feel differently of course.
> Paul
>
> >
> > If there is full follow through on this, they will be releasing four film
> > cameras to go after a resurgent market that is being underserved.
> > Pentax has also announced that the old FA50/1.4 is being given some
> > cosmetic updates (sadly, no optical ones from the looks of it), into two
> > sister models which indicates that they are planning something other than
> > an inexpensive standard prime for digital.
> >
> > bill
> >
> > On Tue, May 16, 2023 at 4:19 AM Paul Stenquist 
> wrote:
> >
> >> A useless toy.
> >>
> >> Paul
> >>
> >>> On May 16, 2023, at 5:14 AM, Steve Cottrell 
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> 
> >>>
> >>
> https://petapixel.com/2023/05/15/pentaxs-new-film-camera-will-have-a-fixed-non-interchangeable-lens/
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Re: Pentax Film Camera News

2023-05-16 Thread Paul Stenquist


> On May 16, 2023, at 11:52 AM, Bill  wrote:
> 
> One could say the same thing about someone's split window Corvette that
> spends it's life locked in a trailer, only to be seen at car shows..

Perhaps, if one were given to exaggeration and fuzzy thinking. 
Yes, the camera has some value, but I think that for most of us, it’s not 
particularly useful. You can feel differently of course.
Paul

> 
> If there is full follow through on this, they will be releasing four film
> cameras to go after a resurgent market that is being underserved.
> Pentax has also announced that the old FA50/1.4 is being given some
> cosmetic updates (sadly, no optical ones from the looks of it), into two
> sister models which indicates that they are planning something other than
> an inexpensive standard prime for digital.
> 
> bill
> 
> On Tue, May 16, 2023 at 4:19 AM Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> 
>> A useless toy.
>> 
>> Paul
>> 
>>> On May 16, 2023, at 5:14 AM, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> https://petapixel.com/2023/05/15/pentaxs-new-film-camera-will-have-a-fixed-non-interchangeable-lens/
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Hello from somewhere in Scotland

2023-05-16 Thread Mark Roberts
...in a field a couple of miles outside village of Kirk Yetholm. We'll be 
finishing our epic Pennine Way walk soon. Photos later.
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Re: Pentax Film Camera News

2023-05-16 Thread Bill
One could say the same thing about someone's split window Corvette that
spends it's life locked in a trailer, only to be seen at car shows..

If there is full follow through on this, they will be releasing four film
cameras to go after a resurgent market that is being underserved.
Pentax has also announced that the old FA50/1.4 is being given some
cosmetic updates (sadly, no optical ones from the looks of it), into two
sister models which indicates that they are planning something other than
an inexpensive standard prime for digital.

bill

On Tue, May 16, 2023 at 4:19 AM Paul Stenquist  wrote:

> A useless toy.
>
> Paul
>
> > On May 16, 2023, at 5:14 AM, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
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Re: Pentax Film Camera News

2023-05-16 Thread Paul Stenquist
It’s useless to those who, like me, still own plenary of film cameras. I guess 
there will be some market for it. but perhaps not enough to make it profitable 
for Ricoh.

> On May 16, 2023, at 11:10 AM, l...@red4est.com wrote:
> 
> If simply having fun is useless. 
> You could say the same about my argue c3, but I got some of my best photos 
> with it when I took it to burning man years ago
> 
> On May 16, 2023 3:18:43 AM PDT, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
>> A useless toy.
>> 
>> Paul
>> 
>>> On May 16, 2023, at 5:14 AM, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
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>>> 
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Re: Pentax Film Camera News

2023-05-16 Thread lrc
If simply having fun is useless. 
You could say the same about my argue c3, but I got some of my best photos with 
it when I took it to burning man years ago

On May 16, 2023 3:18:43 AM PDT, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
>A useless toy.
>
>Paul
>
>> On May 16, 2023, at 5:14 AM, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
>> 
>> 
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Re: Pentax Film Camera News

2023-05-16 Thread Ralf R Radermacher

Am 16.05.23 um 16:54 schrieb Steve Cottrell:


It’s interesting to note that a lot of young people into photography are 
curious about film and want to explore possibilities. My own son has acquired a 
film SLR, and also took an old Olympus XA-2 I gave him on holiday loaded with 
Fujifilm. It seems the retro logistics of film is catching on - who’da thunk 
it?!


Some simple compact cameras from the naughties have acquired cult
status. The Olympus :mju 2 in its simplest incarnation with the 35 mm
lens goes on ebay for hundreds of euros, nowadays. Paid less than 100
new when I offered one to my mother for Xmas, many moons ago.

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Re: Pentax Film Camera News

2023-05-16 Thread Steve Cottrell
I think the point of it, according to what I read, is that the useless toy is a 
test-bed on which Ricoh will develop a film SLR.

It’s interesting to note that a lot of young people into photography are 
curious about film and want to explore possibilities. My own son has acquired a 
film SLR, and also took an old Olympus XA-2 I gave him on holiday loaded with 
Fujifilm. It seems the retro logistics of film is catching on - who’da thunk 
it?!

Cotty

On 16 May 2023, at 11:18, Paul Stenquist  wrote:

A useless toy.


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Re: PESO a few orchids

2023-05-16 Thread ann sanfedele
Right, not found in Western Hemisphere - I researched.  But feel I need 
to tell you that I especially liked that  shot because of the overall 
composition of the
photo...not a particular  love of that specific blossom. Not  that the 
bloom isn't pretty _ but I just thought that photo was outstanding and a 
more interesting one than that of the isolated bloom .  It was 
particularly painterly.  super photo.


ann



On 5/16/2023 6:28 AM, Toine wrote:

Thanks! Added another one of that species (monkey orchid).
https://repiuk.nl/new/#pid=_1007588.jpg
Probably not to be found on your side of the pond.

On Mon, 15 May 2023 at 23:35, ann sanfedele  wrote:


dittoing Henk..
II particularly like new/#pid=_1007580.jpg , which you didnt highlight...
and the DASLOOK set..   Had to peek at more than the ones you pointed
to, as usual :-)
all your stuff is a treat.

ann

On 5/14/2023 4:50 PM, Henk Terhell wrote:

Nice set Toine!
#pid=_1007580.jpg is in my opinion a monkey orchid (aapjesorchis), though
it could be a hybrid with the military orchid (soldaatje)

Henk

Op zo 14 mei 2023 om 21:17 schreef Toine :


Orchid time so I need to capture them.

https://repiuk.nl/new/#pid=_1007657.jpg
https://repiuk.nl/new/#pid=_1007538.jpg
https://repiuk.nl/new/#pid=_1007592.jpg

All @ 400mm (no Pentax sorry)

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Re: Pentax Film Camera News

2023-05-16 Thread Ralf R Radermacher

Am 16.05.23 um 12:18 schrieb Paul Stenquist:

A useless toy.


Very much so.

Then again, as long as it brings money into Pentax' coffers it's just as
fine with me as pink, neon-yellow or textmarker-green DSLRs. No-one
forces us to buy them.

Ralf

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Re: PESO a few orchids

2023-05-16 Thread Toine
Thanks! Added another one of that species (monkey orchid).
https://repiuk.nl/new/#pid=_1007588.jpg
Probably not to be found on your side of the pond.

On Mon, 15 May 2023 at 23:35, ann sanfedele  wrote:

> dittoing Henk..
> II particularly like new/#pid=_1007580.jpg , which you didnt highlight...
> and the DASLOOK set..   Had to peek at more than the ones you pointed
> to, as usual :-)
> all your stuff is a treat.
>
> ann
>
> On 5/14/2023 4:50 PM, Henk Terhell wrote:
> > Nice set Toine!
> > #pid=_1007580.jpg is in my opinion a monkey orchid (aapjesorchis), though
> > it could be a hybrid with the military orchid (soldaatje)
> >
> > Henk
> >
> > Op zo 14 mei 2023 om 21:17 schreef Toine :
> >
> >> Orchid time so I need to capture them.
> >>
> >> https://repiuk.nl/new/#pid=_1007657.jpg
> >> https://repiuk.nl/new/#pid=_1007538.jpg
> >> https://repiuk.nl/new/#pid=_1007592.jpg
> >>
> >> All @ 400mm (no Pentax sorry)
> >>
> >> Toine
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Re: Pentax Film Camera News

2023-05-16 Thread Paul Stenquist
A useless toy.

Paul

> On May 16, 2023, at 5:14 AM, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
> 
> 
> https://petapixel.com/2023/05/15/pentaxs-new-film-camera-will-have-a-fixed-non-interchangeable-lens/
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Pentax Film Camera News

2023-05-16 Thread Steve Cottrell


https://petapixel.com/2023/05/15/pentaxs-new-film-camera-will-have-a-fixed-non-interchangeable-lens/
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