Re: Bombarded by news of new Nikons.

[Kim Tang]

pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: 

> Nikon has lots of adherents and spends lots of advertising dollars, so 
> it is not surprising that whatever Nikon rolls out gets lots of 
> attention. Also, blogs and photosites are beasts that need to be fed, 
> so ANY photographic new is grist for the mill, particularly when it is 
> from one of the Big Dogs. 

> However, these announcements hold very little interest for me. I don't 
> own Nikon mount glass (other than a couple of older screw-AF Nikkors 
> that I plan to sell, a 50mm f1.8 and a 70-210mm f/4-5.6. Oh, and an 
> old AI 135mm manual focus). The only people who really might have more 
> than a passing interest are those who can afford to sell everything in 
> one mount and reinvest in another (and that certainly isn't me). 

> I remain quite pleased with the current Pentax offerings (frankly, 
> anything since the K-5 remains a superb choice for virtually ANY photo 
> enthusiast). Cameras are like automobiles in some respects. If one 
> wants to focus on what one doesn't have or can't afford (like a 
> Lamborghini or Bugatti (then one can go through their whole life 
> unhappy and envious). 

> So "bully for Nikon". There will always be a "later & greater" but I 
> have more than I can reasonably use now.

Nope. No sour grapes there. 

Kim 

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RE: Bombarded by news of new Nikons.

[Malcolm Smith]

Darren Addy wrote:

> Nikon has lots of adherents and spends lots of advertising dollars, so
> it is not surprising that whatever Nikon rolls out gets lots of
> attention. Also, blogs and photosites are beasts that need to be fed,
> so ANY photographic new is grist for the mill, particularly when it is
> from one of the Big Dogs.
> 
> However, these announcements hold very little interest for me. I don't
> own Nikon mount glass (other than a couple of older screw-AF Nikkors
> that I plan to sell, a 50mm f1.8 and a 70-210mm f/4-5.6. Oh, and an old
> AI 135mm manual focus). The only people who really might have more than
> a passing interest are those who can afford to sell everything in one
> mount and reinvest in another (and that certainly isn't me).
> 
> I remain quite pleased with the current Pentax offerings (frankly,
> anything since the K-5 remains a superb choice for virtually ANY photo
> enthusiast). Cameras are like automobiles in some respects. If one
> wants to focus on what one doesn't have or can't afford (like a
> Lamborghini or Bugatti (then one can go through their whole life
> unhappy and envious).
> 
> I'm at the point where I would really only LIKE another one or two
> lenses (the DA* 200mm f/2.8 and a fast Rokinon ultrawide -either 14mm
> or 16mm) and I really couldn't ask for much more. I'm ready to turn my
> attention to trips and taking photos more than acquiring gear.
> 
> So "bully for Nikon". There will always be a "later & greater" but I
> have more than I can reasonably use now. In any event, even these
> latest Nikons don't have things I  currently enjoy with the K-3 II,
> like in-body image stabilization (with even vintage lenses on front),
> and things like no AA filter/microblur AA, and built-in AstroTrack.

I've had a fair bit of e-mail in about the new D500 & D5, including my
pre-order sales communication from the shop I usually deal with.

I'm aware that that there has been a lot of calling for a replacement for
the D300s, and had I a large number of DX Nikon lenses, I expect I'd have
been one of those shouting. 

If I'd been looking for a new DX DSLR without a collection of lenses to any
brand, for what I take pictures of, I'd have still gone with the K3/K3 II. I
like the larger sensor size, and as I don't generally take photos of moving
wildlife, motor racing etc, my camera is normally set with 1 AF point. This
seeming race for a zillion AF points and shooting vast rates per second
isn't what I need. Others might.

The only thing I don't like about the D5 is the price. I'm still not sure
I'd prefer a mint D3X though if I was in the market for this sort of camera,
and I still wish I'd bought a D700 when it was launched. With FX format, I'd
always need to buy a new set of glass, and the wait for Pentax/Ricoh to do
the deed and launch an FX body has none of the relevance it did for me
waiting for the *ist D with loads of glass at the time to use them
immediately.

The most important thing that I need to upgrade is my computer. Large
picture file sizes need processing with a much more powerful computer. This
for me this year, is a higher priority to whatever is launched by camera
manufacturers. No use having 40-50 MP pictures if you can't process them!

Malcolm 

 


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Re: Bombarded by news of new Nikons.

[John]

Did Ricoh/Pentax even show up for this year's CES?

On 1/6/2016 9:34 AM, P.J. Alling wrote:

So I expect that all of you have been made aware one way or another of
the Nikon D5 and D500 cameras.  Pretty much every electronics site that
it's my misfortune to belong to has sent me an announcement.

The specifications are quite impressive.

There's been a bit of noise on various Nikon fora in the past that the
K-5 and later the K-3 cameras had taken the mantle of the Nikon D300s as
the Top enthusiast/semi pro APS-C camera body.  Seems that after
literally years of begging, by Nikon fanboys for a new D300s Nikon has
decided to reclaim that mantle.

I could be wrong but it looks like Nikon really does pay attention to
Pentax.



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Re: Bombarded by news of new Nikons.

[John]

I've got nothing against Nikon, I was just wondering if Ricoh/Pentax
showed at the CES this year?

On 1/7/2016 8:53 PM, Darren Addy wrote:

Nikon has lots of adherents and spends lots of advertising dollars, so
it is not surprising that whatever Nikon rolls out gets lots of
attention. Also, blogs and photosites are beasts that need to be fed,
so ANY photographic new is grist for the mill, particularly when it is
from one of the Big Dogs.

However, these announcements hold very little interest for me. I don't
own Nikon mount glass (other than a couple of older screw-AF Nikkors
that I plan to sell, a 50mm f1.8 and a 70-210mm f/4-5.6. Oh, and an
old AI 135mm manual focus). The only people who really might have more
than a passing interest are those who can afford to sell everything in
one mount and reinvest in another (and that certainly isn't me).

I remain quite pleased with the current Pentax offerings (frankly,
anything since the K-5 remains a superb choice for virtually ANY photo
enthusiast). Cameras are like automobiles in some respects. If one
wants to focus on what one doesn't have or can't afford (like a
Lamborghini or Bugatti (then one can go through their whole life
unhappy and envious).

I'm at the point where I would really only LIKE another one or two
lenses (the DA* 200mm f/2.8 and a fast Rokinon ultrawide -either 14mm
or 16mm) and I really couldn't ask for much more. I'm ready to turn my
attention to trips and taking photos more than acquiring gear.

So "bully for Nikon". There will always be a "later & greater" but I
have more than I can reasonably use now. In any event, even these
latest Nikons don't have things I  currently enjoy with the K-3 II,
like in-body image stabilization (with even vintage lenses on front),
and things like no AA filter/microblur AA, and built-in AstroTrack.

On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 6:18 PM, John  wrote:

Did Ricoh/Pentax even show up for this year's CES?

On 1/6/2016 9:34 AM, P.J. Alling wrote:


So I expect that all of you have been made aware one way or another of
the Nikon D5 and D500 cameras.  Pretty much every electronics site that
it's my misfortune to belong to has sent me an announcement.

The specifications are quite impressive.

There's been a bit of noise on various Nikon fora in the past that the
K-5 and later the K-3 cameras had taken the mantle of the Nikon D300s as
the Top enthusiast/semi pro APS-C camera body.  Seems that after
literally years of begging, by Nikon fanboys for a new D300s Nikon has
decided to reclaim that mantle.

I could be wrong but it looks like Nikon really does pay attention to
Pentax.



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Re: Bombarded by news of new Nikons.

[Darren Addy]

Nikon has lots of adherents and spends lots of advertising dollars, so
it is not surprising that whatever Nikon rolls out gets lots of
attention. Also, blogs and photosites are beasts that need to be fed,
so ANY photographic new is grist for the mill, particularly when it is
from one of the Big Dogs.

However, these announcements hold very little interest for me. I don't
own Nikon mount glass (other than a couple of older screw-AF Nikkors
that I plan to sell, a 50mm f1.8 and a 70-210mm f/4-5.6. Oh, and an
old AI 135mm manual focus). The only people who really might have more
than a passing interest are those who can afford to sell everything in
one mount and reinvest in another (and that certainly isn't me).

I remain quite pleased with the current Pentax offerings (frankly,
anything since the K-5 remains a superb choice for virtually ANY photo
enthusiast). Cameras are like automobiles in some respects. If one
wants to focus on what one doesn't have or can't afford (like a
Lamborghini or Bugatti (then one can go through their whole life
unhappy and envious).

I'm at the point where I would really only LIKE another one or two
lenses (the DA* 200mm f/2.8 and a fast Rokinon ultrawide -either 14mm
or 16mm) and I really couldn't ask for much more. I'm ready to turn my
attention to trips and taking photos more than acquiring gear.

So "bully for Nikon". There will always be a "later & greater" but I
have more than I can reasonably use now. In any event, even these
latest Nikons don't have things I  currently enjoy with the K-3 II,
like in-body image stabilization (with even vintage lenses on front),
and things like no AA filter/microblur AA, and built-in AstroTrack.

On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 6:18 PM, John  wrote:
> Did Ricoh/Pentax even show up for this year's CES?
>
> On 1/6/2016 9:34 AM, P.J. Alling wrote:
>>
>> So I expect that all of you have been made aware one way or another of
>> the Nikon D5 and D500 cameras.  Pretty much every electronics site that
>> it's my misfortune to belong to has sent me an announcement.
>>
>> The specifications are quite impressive.
>>
>> There's been a bit of noise on various Nikon fora in the past that the
>> K-5 and later the K-3 cameras had taken the mantle of the Nikon D300s as
>> the Top enthusiast/semi pro APS-C camera body.  Seems that after
>> literally years of begging, by Nikon fanboys for a new D300s Nikon has
>> decided to reclaim that mantle.
>>
>> I could be wrong but it looks like Nikon really does pay attention to
>> Pentax.
>>
>
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Re: Bombarded by news of new Nikons.

[Boris Liberman]

Darren, I think you miss a certain point in your reasoning.

You see, Nikon have once again pushed the envelope. How successfully -
it remains to be seen, but based on their track record - I expect
excellent stuff from them. Notice the quite new AF module that appears
to breath new life into the DSLR in general. As you know, many a mass
media are telling us that DSLR concept is dead, because mirrorless is
taking over. Not quite so, I say. The maximal sensitivity is mind
boggling and likely it won't be as good. However, it means that other
manufacturers (Canon, Sony) would have to respond. Some of that tech
will trickle down to affordable common public gear.

Basically, Nikon has made their move as far as competition goes. I say
- any competition is a good thing as it makes your brand of choice to
move forward too.

Having said that - as you correctly said - K-5 is a superb choice. I
was thinking of upgrading my 5 years old K-5 to K-5iis, but I learned
that it is still quite unreliable as far as flash exposure goes, and
indeed, my K-5 is not giving me very consistent results with Metz
50-AF1 flash unit. So, I am still staying with good old K-5. I expect
that when FF body comes out, many would start dumping their K-3ii's...
I'd watch the prices and if they are low enough for me - I'd probably
move from K-5 to K-3ii... I should say, however, that it seems to me
that high ISO performance of K-3(ii) is somewhat weaker than that of
K-5. Kind of closes the circle, don't you think?

Boris


On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 3:53 AM, Darren Addy  wrote:
> Nikon has lots of adherents and spends lots of advertising dollars, so
> it is not surprising that whatever Nikon rolls out gets lots of
> attention. Also, blogs and photosites are beasts that need to be fed,
> so ANY photographic new is grist for the mill, particularly when it is
> from one of the Big Dogs.
>
> However, these announcements hold very little interest for me. I don't
> own Nikon mount glass (other than a couple of older screw-AF Nikkors
> that I plan to sell, a 50mm f1.8 and a 70-210mm f/4-5.6. Oh, and an
> old AI 135mm manual focus). The only people who really might have more
> than a passing interest are those who can afford to sell everything in
> one mount and reinvest in another (and that certainly isn't me).
>
> I remain quite pleased with the current Pentax offerings (frankly,
> anything since the K-5 remains a superb choice for virtually ANY photo
> enthusiast). Cameras are like automobiles in some respects. If one
> wants to focus on what one doesn't have or can't afford (like a
> Lamborghini or Bugatti (then one can go through their whole life
> unhappy and envious).
>
> I'm at the point where I would really only LIKE another one or two
> lenses (the DA* 200mm f/2.8 and a fast Rokinon ultrawide -either 14mm
> or 16mm) and I really couldn't ask for much more. I'm ready to turn my
> attention to trips and taking photos more than acquiring gear.
>
> So "bully for Nikon". There will always be a "later & greater" but I
> have more than I can reasonably use now. In any event, even these
> latest Nikons don't have things I  currently enjoy with the K-3 II,
> like in-body image stabilization (with even vintage lenses on front),
> and things like no AA filter/microblur AA, and built-in AstroTrack.
>
> On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 6:18 PM, John  wrote:
>> Did Ricoh/Pentax even show up for this year's CES?
>>
>> On 1/6/2016 9:34 AM, P.J. Alling wrote:
>>>
>>> So I expect that all of you have been made aware one way or another of
>>> the Nikon D5 and D500 cameras.  Pretty much every electronics site that
>>> it's my misfortune to belong to has sent me an announcement.
>>>
>>> The specifications are quite impressive.
>>>
>>> There's been a bit of noise on various Nikon fora in the past that the
>>> K-5 and later the K-3 cameras had taken the mantle of the Nikon D300s as
>>> the Top enthusiast/semi pro APS-C camera body.  Seems that after
>>> literally years of begging, by Nikon fanboys for a new D300s Nikon has
>>> decided to reclaim that mantle.
>>>
>>> I could be wrong but it looks like Nikon really does pay attention to
>>> Pentax.
>>>
>>
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Bombarded by news of new Nikons.

[P.J. Alling]

So I expect that all of you have been made aware one way or another of 
the Nikon D5 and D500 cameras.  Pretty much every electronics site that 
it's my misfortune to belong to has sent me an announcement.


The specifications are quite impressive.

There's been a bit of noise on various Nikon fora in the past that the 
K-5 and later the K-3 cameras had taken the mantle of the Nikon D300s as 
the Top enthusiast/semi pro APS-C camera body.  Seems that after 
literally years of begging, by Nikon fanboys for a new D300s Nikon has 
decided to reclaim that mantle.


I could be wrong but it looks like Nikon really does pay attention to 
Pentax.


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