Re: Colusa Preserve Activity

[Igor PDML-StR]

Ken Waller Fri, 10 Mar 2017 17:39:07 -0800 wrote:


I use a Kirk King Cobra head with my 600mm f4.

...

I've captured birds in flight with it ...



<...>

Ken, wow! I knew it was massive, but I didn't realize how long that 600mm 
lens is :-)



On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 11:30 AM, Jack Davis wrote:




A couple images from a local National Preserve. What else?
Shot in the last two days.
After 30 years of scenics and landscapes, this refreshes me.

K3/150-450 on a tripod.

C? Thanks!


Jack, both images are very good. I enjoyed them.
I particularly like the one with the goose, how the wings are spread out 
and up, like a jet aircraft at take-off.




Igor




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Re: Colusa Preserve Activity

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On 10/3/17, John Sessoms, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Or maybe a fluid head made for video ...
>
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epPSQaYnU8M

Ideal solution John. Mount a still camera on it, pan with the bird,
lovely and smooth, fire at will.

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Re: Colusa Preserve Activity

[Larry Colen]

Jack Davis wrote:

When the camera/lens weight
is as heavy as it is with the DFA,
a tripod is preferable. Hand
holding, however, allows a much freer sweeping motion to follow the target.
The longer reach does make it more
difficult to "find" the bird upon take
off or as it passes.


Have you considered mounting a red dot sight to your hotshoe?

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/3009695

BTW, in theory I'll be passing through Colusa county on my way up to 
Oregon in the next few days.



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Re: Colusa Preserve Activity

[Ken Waller]

I use a Kirk King Cobra head with my 600mm f4.
IMO a gimbal head is almost mandatory with a lense the size and weight of 
the 600.
I've captured birds in flight with it but it almost needs a side mounted 
sight to give you an approximate area where it is pointed. Once captured in 
the viewfinder its easy to swing the lens/camera combo to follow the birds.


Using a ball head seems to be adding another level of complexity to the 
equation as the unclamped head will want to let the lens/camera combo flop 
over.


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- Original Message - 
From: "Paul Stenquist" <pnstenqu...@mac.com>

Subject: Re: Colusa Preserve Activity


Gimbal heads are great, but a decent one is in the $600 range. It's on my 
wish list.


Paul via phone

On Mar 10, 2017, at 4:18 PM, Stanley Halpin <s...@stans-photography.info> 
wrote:


Have you tried a gimbal mount?

e.g., 
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/404536-REG/Wimberley_WH_200_Gimbal_Type_Tripod_Head.html


stan


On Mar 10, 2017, at 3:40 PM, Jack Davis <jdavi...@comcast.net> wrote:

When the camera/lens weight
is as heavy as it is with the DFA,
a tripod is preferable. Hand
holding, however, allows a much freer sweeping motion to follow the 
target.

The longer reach does make it more
difficult to "find" the bird upon take
off or as it passes.

J

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 10, 2017, at 9:13 AM, Paul Stenquist <pnstenqu...@mac.com> 
wrote:


Nice. The Grackle is very sharp and detailed. Good job on the duck as 
well. Shooting birds in flight off a tripod is difficult.


Paul

On Mar 10, 2017, at 11:30 AM, Jack Davis <jdavi...@comcast.net> wrote:



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Re: Colusa Preserve Activity

[Jack Davis]

No! I know better. To me, this lens' weight does not warrant the 'prox $600, 
but it would be ideal.

J

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> On Mar 10, 2017, at 1:18 PM, Stanley Halpin  
> wrote:
> 
> Have you tried a gimbal mount?
> 
> e.g., 
> https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/404536-REG/Wimberley_WH_200_Gimbal_Type_Tripod_Head.html
> 
> stan
> 
>> On Mar 10, 2017, at 3:40 PM, Jack Davis  wrote:
>> 
>> When the camera/lens weight 
>> is as heavy as it is with the DFA,
>> a tripod is preferable. Hand
>> holding, however, allows a much freer sweeping motion to follow the target.
>> The longer reach does make it more
>> difficult to "find" the bird upon take
>> off or as it passes.
>> 
>> J
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 10, 2017, at 9:13 AM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Nice. The Grackle is very sharp and detailed. Good job on the duck as well. 
>>> Shooting birds in flight off a tripod is difficult.
>>> 
>>> Paul
 On Mar 10, 2017, at 11:30 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:
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Re: Colusa Preserve Activity

[Paul Stenquist]

True. But weight isn't much of a handicap here. I have a nice ball head as well 
(Sirius?), and when it's adjusted perfectly it's almost as good as a gimbal. 
Like you I will maker do for now.

Paul via phone

> On Mar 10, 2017, at 5:27 PM, Jack Davis  wrote:
> 
> Yes, I'm sure a gimbal head would be the ideal answer, but my old Bogen
> Pro Ball will likely have the job for
> awhile.
> My K3 weighs less than your K1. :)
> J
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 10, 2017, at 1:25 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
>> I love 
>> Gimbal heads are great, but a decent one is in the $600 range. It's on my 
>> wish list.
>> 
>> Paul via phone
>> 
>>> On Mar 10, 2017, at 4:18 PM, Stanley Halpin  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Have you tried a gimbal mount?
>>> 
>>> e.g., 
>>> https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/404536-REG/Wimberley_WH_200_Gimbal_Type_Tripod_Head.html
>>> 
>>> stan
>>> 
 On Mar 10, 2017, at 3:40 PM, Jack Davis  wrote:
 
 When the camera/lens weight 
 is as heavy as it is with the DFA,
 a tripod is preferable. Hand
 holding, however, allows a much freer sweeping motion to follow the target.
 The longer reach does make it more
 difficult to "find" the bird upon take
 off or as it passes.
 
 J
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Mar 10, 2017, at 9:13 AM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> 
> Nice. The Grackle is very sharp and detailed. Good job on the duck as 
> well. Shooting birds in flight off a tripod is difficult.
> 
> Paul
>> On Mar 10, 2017, at 11:30 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:
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Re: Colusa Preserve Activity

[Jack Davis]

Yes, I'm sure a gimbal head would be the ideal answer, but my old Bogen
Pro Ball will likely have the job for
awhile.
My K3 weighs less than your K1. :)
J
Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 10, 2017, at 1:25 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> I love 
> Gimbal heads are great, but a decent one is in the $600 range. It's on my 
> wish list.
> 
> Paul via phone
> 
>> On Mar 10, 2017, at 4:18 PM, Stanley Halpin  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Have you tried a gimbal mount?
>> 
>> e.g., 
>> https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/404536-REG/Wimberley_WH_200_Gimbal_Type_Tripod_Head.html
>> 
>> stan
>> 
>>> On Mar 10, 2017, at 3:40 PM, Jack Davis  wrote:
>>> 
>>> When the camera/lens weight 
>>> is as heavy as it is with the DFA,
>>> a tripod is preferable. Hand
>>> holding, however, allows a much freer sweeping motion to follow the target.
>>> The longer reach does make it more
>>> difficult to "find" the bird upon take
>>> off or as it passes.
>>> 
>>> J
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Mar 10, 2017, at 9:13 AM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
 
 Nice. The Grackle is very sharp and detailed. Good job on the duck as 
 well. Shooting birds in flight off a tripod is difficult.
 
 Paul
> On Mar 10, 2017, at 11:30 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:
 
 
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Re: Colusa Preserve Activity

[John Sessoms]

Or maybe a fluid head made for video ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epPSQaYnU8M

On 3/10/2017 4:18 PM, Stanley Halpin wrote:

Have you tried a gimbal mount?

e.g., 
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/404536-REG/Wimberley_WH_200_Gimbal_Type_Tripod_Head.html

stan


On Mar 10, 2017, at 3:40 PM, Jack Davis  wrote:

When the camera/lens weight
is as heavy as it is with the DFA,
a tripod is preferable. Hand
holding, however, allows a much freer sweeping motion to follow the target.
The longer reach does make it more
difficult to "find" the bird upon take
off or as it passes.

J

Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 10, 2017, at 9:13 AM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:

Nice. The Grackle is very sharp and detailed. Good job on the duck as well. 
Shooting birds in flight off a tripod is difficult.

Paul

On Mar 10, 2017, at 11:30 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:





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Re: Colusa Preserve Activity

[Paul Stenquist]

Gimbal heads are great, but a decent one is in the $600 range. It's on my wish 
list.

Paul via phone

> On Mar 10, 2017, at 4:18 PM, Stanley Halpin  
> wrote:
> 
> Have you tried a gimbal mount?
> 
> e.g., 
> https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/404536-REG/Wimberley_WH_200_Gimbal_Type_Tripod_Head.html
> 
> stan
> 
>> On Mar 10, 2017, at 3:40 PM, Jack Davis  wrote:
>> 
>> When the camera/lens weight 
>> is as heavy as it is with the DFA,
>> a tripod is preferable. Hand
>> holding, however, allows a much freer sweeping motion to follow the target.
>> The longer reach does make it more
>> difficult to "find" the bird upon take
>> off or as it passes.
>> 
>> J
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 10, 2017, at 9:13 AM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Nice. The Grackle is very sharp and detailed. Good job on the duck as well. 
>>> Shooting birds in flight off a tripod is difficult.
>>> 
>>> Paul
 On Mar 10, 2017, at 11:30 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:
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Re: Colusa Preserve Activity

[Stanley Halpin]

Have you tried a gimbal mount?

e.g., 
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/404536-REG/Wimberley_WH_200_Gimbal_Type_Tripod_Head.html

stan

> On Mar 10, 2017, at 3:40 PM, Jack Davis  wrote:
> 
> When the camera/lens weight 
> is as heavy as it is with the DFA,
> a tripod is preferable. Hand
> holding, however, allows a much freer sweeping motion to follow the target.
> The longer reach does make it more
> difficult to "find" the bird upon take
> off or as it passes.
> 
> J
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 10, 2017, at 9:13 AM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
>> 
>> Nice. The Grackle is very sharp and detailed. Good job on the duck as well. 
>> Shooting birds in flight off a tripod is difficult.
>> 
>> Paul
>>> On Mar 10, 2017, at 11:30 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:
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Re: Colusa Preserve Activity

[Jack Davis]

When the camera/lens weight 
is as heavy as it is with the DFA,
a tripod is preferable. Hand
holding, however, allows a much freer sweeping motion to follow the target.
The longer reach does make it more
difficult to "find" the bird upon take
off or as it passes.

J

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 10, 2017, at 9:13 AM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> 
> Nice. The Grackle is very sharp and detailed. Good job on the duck as well. 
> Shooting birds in flight off a tripod is difficult.
> 
> Paul
>> On Mar 10, 2017, at 11:30 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:
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Re: Colusa Preserve Activity

[Paul Stenquist]

Nice. The Grackle is very sharp and detailed. Good job on the duck as well. 
Shooting birds in flight off a tripod is difficult.

Paul
> On Mar 10, 2017, at 11:30 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:
> 
> 


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Re: Colusa Preserve Activity

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Somehow, you managed to make a grackle look attractive!  I also like the
flight posture you caught in the goose image, although the bird reminds me
too much of the hated Canada Geese that befoul everything around here.

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On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 11:30 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:

>
>
> A couple images from a local National Preserve. What else?
> Shot in the last two days.
> After 30 years of scenics and landscapes, this refreshes me.
>
> K3/150-450 on a tripod.
>
> C? Thanks!
>
> J
>
> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1169
>
> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1170
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Colusa Preserve Activity

[Jack Davis]

A couple images from a local National Preserve. What else?
Shot in the last two days.
After 30 years of scenics and landscapes, this refreshes me. 

K3/150-450 on a tripod.

C? Thanks!

J

http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1169

http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1170

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