Re: Copyright issues: What if you photograph someone with a copyrighted tattoo?

2015-11-01 Thread P.J. Alling 
Then having read his recommendations, I became quiet peeved, as he runs 
roughshod over fair use in several cases.


On 11/1/2015 11:32 AM, P.J. Alling wrote:
I don't see how that's different than photographing a Copyrighted 
poster.  No real interesting questions here at all, the law is pretty 
much black letter.


On 10/31/2015 2:21 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

Some interesting questions arise!
http://improvephotography.com/35091/copyright-nightmare-taking-photos-of-people-with-tattoos/ 









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Re: Copyright issues: What if you photograph someone with a copyrighted tattoo?

2015-11-01 Thread P.J. Alling 
I don't see how that's different than photographing a Copyrighted 
poster.  No real interesting questions here at all, the law is pretty 
much black letter.


On 10/31/2015 2:21 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

Some interesting questions arise!
http://improvephotography.com/35091/copyright-nightmare-taking-photos-of-people-with-tattoos/

  



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Copyright issues: What if you photograph someone with a copyrighted tattoo?

2015-10-31 Thread Mark Roberts 
Some interesting questions arise!
http://improvephotography.com/35091/copyright-nightmare-taking-photos-of-people-with-tattoos/

 
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Re: Copyright issues: What if you photograph someone with a copyrighted tattoo?

2015-10-31 Thread Bob W-PDML 
I can't see the difference between photographing someone with tattoos and 
someone wearing clothes that someone else has designed, or a street containing 
buildings and billboards, and tons of other shit that's copyright. Sounds to me 
like a lawyer trying to drum up some spurious business.

B

> On 31 Oct 2015, at 18:22, Mark Roberts  wrote:
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Re: Copyright issues: What if you photograph someone with a copyrighted tattoo?

2015-10-31 Thread Igor PDML-StR 



Mark: thanks, that's an interesting article.

Bob: I don't know how it works on your side of the pond, but in the US, 
sculptures in a photo MAY BE and often ARE covered by copyright.

There have been several cases in the past decade or so.
See e.g. this case: 
http://www.sculpture.org/documents/scmag05/may_05/webspecs/grant.shtml

It looks like it is different in Canada:
http://www.photoattorney.com/update-on-lawsuit-against-photographer-for-photo-of-sculpture/

If you read that second reference above, you'll see that you can 
photograph and paint (on your own media! ;-) ) public buildings without 
copyright infringements.


As for clothes, I know much less about that area.
There is much lower level of copyright protection in the fashion design 
(if at all). You can read e.g. this document:

http://copyright.gov/docs/regstat072706.html

HTH,

Igor



 Bob W-PDML Sat, 31 Oct 2015 11:38:41 -0700 wrote:

I can't see the difference between photographing someone with tattoos and 
someone wearing clothes that someone else has designed, or a street 
containing buildings and billboards, and tons of other shit that's 
copyright. Sounds to me like a lawyer trying to drum up some spurious 
business.



B


On 31 Oct 2015, at 18:22, Mark Roberts  wrote:

Some interesting questions arise!
http://improvephotography.com/35091/copyright-nightmare-taking-photos-of-people-with-tattoos/


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Re: Copyright issues: What if you photograph someone with a copyrighted tattoo?

2015-10-31 Thread Steve Cottrell 
It won't be long before you'll have to pay a fee just to see a building
in the street. Google-glass style glasses will note your gaze and charge
accordingly. Rich bastards will have 180 degree f.o.v. lenses to take in
all the copyrighted architecture as you walk down the street. Careful
not to trip over the poorer folk like me who'll have blinkers taped to
the sides of mine.

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Re: Copyright issues: What if you photograph someone with a copyrighted tattoo?

2015-10-31 Thread Mark Roberts 
Igor PDML-StR wrote:

>Mark: thanks, that's an interesting article.
>
>Bob: I don't know how it works on your side of the pond, but in the US, 
>sculptures in a photo MAY BE and often ARE covered by copyright.
>There have been several cases in the past decade or so.
>See e.g. this case: 
>http://www.sculpture.org/documents/scmag05/may_05/webspecs/grant.shtml
>It looks like it is different in Canada:
>http://www.photoattorney.com/update-on-lawsuit-against-photographer-for-photo-of-sculpture/
>
>If you read that second reference above, you'll see that you can 
>photograph and paint (on your own media! ;-) ) public buildings without 
>copyright infringements.
>
>As for clothes, I know much less about that area.
>There is much lower level of copyright protection in the fashion design 
>(if at all). You can read e.g. this document:
>http://copyright.gov/docs/regstat072706.html

Also, in the case of the Mike Tyson tattoo, the issue is Trademark
rather than copyright, so different laws apply.

Overall  the advice given in the article seems pretty sensible. In the
U.S, at least, the copyright owner can't sue unless the copyright has
been registered with the copyright office (and within 90 days of
"publication", which would mean when it appeared on the person on whom
it was applied).

 
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Re: Copyright issues: What if you photograph someone with a copyrighted tattoo?

2015-10-31 Thread Igor PDML-StR 



Actually, here is the latest bill that I can find that covers fashion 
design protection:

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/112/s3523/text
And here is its discussion in Forbes:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/oliverherzfeld/2013/01/03/protecting-fashion-designs/
This bill was meant as a replacement for the 2006 one previously 
referenced by me. As far as I understand, it still has not been enacted 
by the Senate.


It turns out that EU and European countries provide better protection 
for the fashion design:

http://www.cardozoaelj.com/2014/09/19/protecting-fashion-a-comparative-analysis-of-fashion-design-copyright-protection-in-the-u-s-and-europe/
That article discusses several other examples that might be of interest to 
inquisitive minds.


Igor

On Sat, 31 Oct 2015, Igor PDML-StR wrote:




Mark: thanks, that's an interesting article.

Bob: I don't know how it works on your side of the pond, but in the US, 
sculptures in a photo MAY BE and often ARE covered by copyright.

There have been several cases in the past decade or so.
See e.g. this case: 
http://www.sculpture.org/documents/scmag05/may_05/webspecs/grant.shtml

It looks like it is different in Canada:
http://www.photoattorney.com/update-on-lawsuit-against-photographer-for-photo-of-sculpture/

If you read that second reference above, you'll see that you can photograph 
and paint (on your own media! ;-) ) public buildings without copyright 
infringements.


As for clothes, I know much less about that area.
There is much lower level of copyright protection in the fashion design (if 
at all). You can read e.g. this document:

http://copyright.gov/docs/regstat072706.html

HTH,

Igor



Bob W-PDML Sat, 31 Oct 2015 11:38:41 -0700 wrote:

I can't see the difference between photographing someone with tattoos and 
someone wearing clothes that someone else has designed, or a street 
containing buildings and billboards, and tons of other shit that's copyright. 
Sounds to me like a lawyer trying to drum up some spurious business.



B


On 31 Oct 2015, at 18:22, Mark Roberts  wrote:

Some interesting questions arise!
http://improvephotography.com/35091/copyright-nightmare-taking-photos-of-people-with-tattoos/




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