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Thanks to all who commented. It really was just a grab shot - but then again I always try and make at least one camera reachable. Lighting and furniture compliments of this New York style apartment*. It a beautiful but truly child unfriendly place. Cheers, Simon * http://www.thebiscuitfactory.com.au/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of rg2 Sent: Sunday, 21 January 2007 3:11 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Development: Was - Unemployed so cute! i love the composition of the second one rg2 - Original Message - From: Simon King [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2007 6:43 AM Subject: Development: Was - Unemployed Rg2 said every development, every new experience they have, I get to see. Like not having to be strapped in a chair anymore... http://members.iinet.net.au/~celsim/sydney/slides/070119_07.html ...and is he happy about it! http://members.iinet.net.au/~celsim/sydney/slides/070119_06.html Simon -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of rg2 Sent: Saturday, 20 January 2007 8:19 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Unemployed Scott: I hope you enjoy being a stay at home parent. It is both rewarding and can cause several types of insanity. I am currently on maternity leave, with a 4 year son and a newborn daughter. It is rewarding because every moment, every development, every new experience they have, I get to see. It is also causing me to crave adult companionship and so I turned to this list - and then turned back to watching Blue's Clues with my son. I think he is more mature than some of the grumpy old men on this list :o) I take tons of pictures and show them to my husband when he gets home, who largely misses out on all the great moments. I will be looking forward to more great kid photos. What ages are your daughters? - Original Message - From: Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 9:03 AM Subject: Unemployed Christie asked me yesterday if I was going to tell you guys about this. Since I spend more time reading the list than actually talking to my real family I figured I would. I quit my job. Christie is going to start working full-time and I'm going to stay home with the girls. After crunching the numbers a bit, we found that we'd be better off financially, plus I'll be home every evening (first time in four years). So yeah, I'm gonna be a stay-at-home-dad. I've read that Mr. Mom isn't received well by most stay-at-home-dads, but I don't care if anyone calls me that. I've been called worse and gotten over it rather quickly. Brace yourselves. I'm sure there are lots and lots of photos of my kids coming to the list very, very soon. And if you're anything like me, there's nothing you like better than looking at photos of other people's kids. :) -- Scott (Mr. Mom) Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com Shoot more film! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On 20/1/07, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: Or perhaps if you just like that sort of thing. (Had to say it before Cotty did...) Not so much like...more a 'need' ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Development: Was - Unemployed
Obviously designed and decorated by someone who's never been to New York, (but has visited IKEA). Simon King wrote: Thanks to all who commented. It really was just a grab shot - but then again I always try and make at least one camera reachable. Lighting and furniture compliments of this New York style apartment*. It a beautiful but truly child unfriendly place. Cheers, Simon * http://www.thebiscuitfactory.com.au/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of rg2 Sent: Sunday, 21 January 2007 3:11 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Development: Was - Unemployed so cute! i love the composition of the second one rg2 - Original Message - From: Simon King [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2007 6:43 AM Subject: Development: Was - Unemployed Rg2 said every development, every new experience they have, I get to see. Like not having to be strapped in a chair anymore... http://members.iinet.net.au/~celsim/sydney/slides/070119_07.html ...and is he happy about it! http://members.iinet.net.au/~celsim/sydney/slides/070119_06.html Simon -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of rg2 Sent: Saturday, 20 January 2007 8:19 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Unemployed Scott: I hope you enjoy being a stay at home parent. It is both rewarding and can cause several types of insanity. I am currently on maternity leave, with a 4 year son and a newborn daughter. It is rewarding because every moment, every development, every new experience they have, I get to see. It is also causing me to crave adult companionship and so I turned to this list - and then turned back to watching Blue's Clues with my son. I think he is more mature than some of the grumpy old men on this list :o) I take tons of pictures and show them to my husband when he gets home, who largely misses out on all the great moments. I will be looking forward to more great kid photos. What ages are your daughters? - Original Message - From: Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 9:03 AM Subject: Unemployed Christie asked me yesterday if I was going to tell you guys about this. Since I spend more time reading the list than actually talking to my real family I figured I would. I quit my job. Christie is going to start working full-time and I'm going to stay home with the girls. After crunching the numbers a bit, we found that we'd be better off financially, plus I'll be home every evening (first time in four years). So yeah, I'm gonna be a stay-at-home-dad. I've read that Mr. Mom isn't received well by most stay-at-home-dads, but I don't care if anyone calls me that. I've been called worse and gotten over it rather quickly. Brace yourselves. I'm sure there are lots and lots of photos of my kids coming to the list very, very soon. And if you're anything like me, there's nothing you like better than looking at photos of other people's kids. :) -- Scott (Mr. Mom) Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com Shoot more film! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- -- The more I know of men, the more I like my dog. -- Anne Louise Germaine de Stael -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On 1/20/07, Simon King [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rg2 said every development, every new experience they have, I get to see. Like not having to be strapped in a chair anymore... http://members.iinet.net.au/~celsim/sydney/slides/070119_07.html ...and is he happy about it! http://members.iinet.net.au/~celsim/sydney/slides/070119_06.html Simon He certainly looks happy. The first one is very, very good. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com Shoot more film! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Development: Was - Unemployed
Rg2 said every development, every new experience they have, I get to see. Like not having to be strapped in a chair anymore... http://members.iinet.net.au/~celsim/sydney/slides/070119_07.html ...and is he happy about it! http://members.iinet.net.au/~celsim/sydney/slides/070119_06.html Simon -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of rg2 Sent: Saturday, 20 January 2007 8:19 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Unemployed Scott: I hope you enjoy being a stay at home parent. It is both rewarding and can cause several types of insanity. I am currently on maternity leave, with a 4 year son and a newborn daughter. It is rewarding because every moment, every development, every new experience they have, I get to see. It is also causing me to crave adult companionship and so I turned to this list - and then turned back to watching Blue's Clues with my son. I think he is more mature than some of the grumpy old men on this list :o) I take tons of pictures and show them to my husband when he gets home, who largely misses out on all the great moments. I will be looking forward to more great kid photos. What ages are your daughters? - Original Message - From: Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 9:03 AM Subject: Unemployed Christie asked me yesterday if I was going to tell you guys about this. Since I spend more time reading the list than actually talking to my real family I figured I would. I quit my job. Christie is going to start working full-time and I'm going to stay home with the girls. After crunching the numbers a bit, we found that we'd be better off financially, plus I'll be home every evening (first time in four years). So yeah, I'm gonna be a stay-at-home-dad. I've read that Mr. Mom isn't received well by most stay-at-home-dads, but I don't care if anyone calls me that. I've been called worse and gotten over it rather quickly. Brace yourselves. I'm sure there are lots and lots of photos of my kids coming to the list very, very soon. And if you're anything like me, there's nothing you like better than looking at photos of other people's kids. :) -- Scott (Mr. Mom) Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com Shoot more film! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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rg2, Those are some fantastic shots. I especially like the first one! Regards, Bob S. On 1/20/07, Simon King [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rg2 said every development, every new experience they have, I get to see. Like not having to be strapped in a chair anymore... http://members.iinet.net.au/~celsim/sydney/slides/070119_07.html ...and is he happy about it! http://members.iinet.net.au/~celsim/sydney/slides/070119_06.html Simon -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of rg2 Sent: Saturday, 20 January 2007 8:19 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Unemployed Scott: I hope you enjoy being a stay at home parent. It is both rewarding and can cause several types of insanity. I am currently on maternity leave, with a 4 year son and a newborn daughter. It is rewarding because every moment, every development, every new experience they have, I get to see. It is also causing me to crave adult companionship and so I turned to this list - and then turned back to watching Blue's Clues with my son. I think he is more mature than some of the grumpy old men on this list :o) I take tons of pictures and show them to my husband when he gets home, who largely misses out on all the great moments. I will be looking forward to more great kid photos. What ages are your daughters? - Original Message - From: Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 9:03 AM Subject: Unemployed Christie asked me yesterday if I was going to tell you guys about this. Since I spend more time reading the list than actually talking to my real family I figured I would. I quit my job. Christie is going to start working full-time and I'm going to stay home with the girls. After crunching the numbers a bit, we found that we'd be better off financially, plus I'll be home every evening (first time in four years). So yeah, I'm gonna be a stay-at-home-dad. I've read that Mr. Mom isn't received well by most stay-at-home-dads, but I don't care if anyone calls me that. I've been called worse and gotten over it rather quickly. Brace yourselves. I'm sure there are lots and lots of photos of my kids coming to the list very, very soon. And if you're anything like me, there's nothing you like better than looking at photos of other people's kids. :) -- Scott (Mr. Mom) Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com Shoot more film! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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I love the first one Simon, made me laugh :-) So how's the east coast treating you? Cheers, Dave On 1/20/07, Simon King [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rg2 said every development, every new experience they have, I get to see. Like not having to be strapped in a chair anymore... http://members.iinet.net.au/~celsim/sydney/slides/070119_07.html ...and is he happy about it! http://members.iinet.net.au/~celsim/sydney/slides/070119_06.html Simon -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Excellent photos, Simon! G On Jan 20, 2007, at 3:43 AM, Simon King wrote: Rg2 said every development, every new experience they have, I get to see. Like not having to be strapped in a chair anymore... http://members.iinet.net.au/~celsim/sydney/slides/070119_07.html ...and is he happy about it! http://members.iinet.net.au/~celsim/sydney/slides/070119_06.html Simon -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Simon King wrote: Rg2 said every development, every new experience they have, I get to see. Like not having to be strapped in a chair anymore... http://members.iinet.net.au/~celsim/sydney/slides/070119_07.html ...and is he happy about it! http://members.iinet.net.au/~celsim/sydney/slides/070119_06.html Simon Excellent stuff, Simon. I wonder what kind of picture this little fellow would take when *he* is grown up. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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I missed these. They're really superb. I love the first one. Great composition. Paul On Jan 20, 2007, at 9:41 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Excellent photos, Simon! G On Jan 20, 2007, at 3:43 AM, Simon King wrote: Rg2 said every development, every new experience they have, I get to see. Like not having to be strapped in a chair anymore... http://members.iinet.net.au/~celsim/sydney/slides/070119_07.html ...and is he happy about it! http://members.iinet.net.au/~celsim/sydney/slides/070119_06.html Simon -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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so cute! i love the composition of the second one rg2 - Original Message - From: Simon King [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2007 6:43 AM Subject: Development: Was - Unemployed Rg2 said every development, every new experience they have, I get to see. Like not having to be strapped in a chair anymore... http://members.iinet.net.au/~celsim/sydney/slides/070119_07.html ...and is he happy about it! http://members.iinet.net.au/~celsim/sydney/slides/070119_06.html Simon -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of rg2 Sent: Saturday, 20 January 2007 8:19 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Unemployed Scott: I hope you enjoy being a stay at home parent. It is both rewarding and can cause several types of insanity. I am currently on maternity leave, with a 4 year son and a newborn daughter. It is rewarding because every moment, every development, every new experience they have, I get to see. It is also causing me to crave adult companionship and so I turned to this list - and then turned back to watching Blue's Clues with my son. I think he is more mature than some of the grumpy old men on this list :o) I take tons of pictures and show them to my husband when he gets home, who largely misses out on all the great moments. I will be looking forward to more great kid photos. What ages are your daughters? - Original Message - From: Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 9:03 AM Subject: Unemployed Christie asked me yesterday if I was going to tell you guys about this. Since I spend more time reading the list than actually talking to my real family I figured I would. I quit my job. Christie is going to start working full-time and I'm going to stay home with the girls. After crunching the numbers a bit, we found that we'd be better off financially, plus I'll be home every evening (first time in four years). So yeah, I'm gonna be a stay-at-home-dad. I've read that Mr. Mom isn't received well by most stay-at-home-dads, but I don't care if anyone calls me that. I've been called worse and gotten over it rather quickly. Brace yourselves. I'm sure there are lots and lots of photos of my kids coming to the list very, very soon. And if you're anything like me, there's nothing you like better than looking at photos of other people's kids. :) -- Scott (Mr. Mom) Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com Shoot more film! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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--- Simon King [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rg2 said every development, every new experience they have, I get to see. Like not having to be strapped in a chair anymore... http://members.iinet.net.au/~celsim/sydney/slides/070119_07.html ...and is he happy about it! http://members.iinet.net.au/~celsim/sydney/slides/070119_06.html Simon That first one is a real gem, Simon. -Brendan Any questions? Get answers on any topic at www.Answers.yahoo.com. Try it now. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Like not having to be strapped in a chair anymore... http://members.iinet.net.au/~celsim/sydney/slides/070119_07.html FABULOUS shot! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Excellent work Simon. Everything in this photo works together. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Simon King Sent: 20. januar 2007 12:44 To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Subject: Development: Was - Unemployed Rg2 said every development, every new experience they have, I get to see. Like not having to be strapped in a chair anymore... http://members.iinet.net.au/~celsim/sydney/slides/070119_07.html ...and is he happy about it! http://members.iinet.net.au/~celsim/sydney/slides/070119_06.html Simon -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of rg2 Sent: Saturday, 20 January 2007 8:19 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Unemployed Scott: I hope you enjoy being a stay at home parent. It is both rewarding and can cause several types of insanity. I am currently on maternity leave, with a 4 year son and a newborn daughter. It is rewarding because every moment, every development, every new experience they have, I get to see. It is also causing me to crave adult companionship and so I turned to this list - and then turned back to watching Blue's Clues with my son. I think he is more mature than some of the grumpy old men on this list :o) I take tons of pictures and show them to my husband when he gets home, who largely misses out on all the great moments. I will be looking forward to more great kid photos. What ages are your daughters? - Original Message - From: Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 9:03 AM Subject: Unemployed Christie asked me yesterday if I was going to tell you guys about this. Since I spend more time reading the list than actually talking to my real family I figured I would. I quit my job. Christie is going to start working full-time and I'm going to stay home with the girls. After crunching the numbers a bit, we found that we'd be better off financially, plus I'll be home every evening (first time in four years). So yeah, I'm gonna be a stay-at-home-dad. I've read that Mr. Mom isn't received well by most stay-at-home-dads, but I don't care if anyone calls me that. I've been called worse and gotten over it rather quickly. Brace yourselves. I'm sure there are lots and lots of photos of my kids coming to the list very, very soon. And if you're anything like me, there's nothing you like better than looking at photos of other people's kids. :) -- Scott (Mr. Mom) Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com Shoot more film! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Cotty wrote: Like not having to be strapped in a chair anymore... http://members.iinet.net.au/~celsim/sydney/slides/070119_07.html FABULOUS shot! As disconcerting as it may be to agree with Cotty g, I have to admit I do so 100% in this case. That's a money shot if ever I saw one! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Simon King wrote: Rg2 said every development, every new experience they have, I get to see. Like not having to be strapped in a chair anymore... http://members.iinet.net.au/~celsim/sydney/slides/070119_07.html Good gravy, Simon, I would guess so! He's already 9 or so...a bit too old for restraining, no? keith whaley -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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or maybe the age where it becomes imperative... keith_w wrote: Simon King wrote: Rg2 said every development, every new experience they have, I get to see. Like not having to be strapped in a chair anymore... http://members.iinet.net.au/~celsim/sydney/slides/070119_07.html Good gravy, Simon, I would guess so! He's already 9 or so...a bit too old for restraining, no? keith whaley -- -- The more I know of men, the more I like my dog. -- Anne Louise Germaine de Stael -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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P. J. Alling wrote: keith_w wrote: Simon King wrote: Like not having to be strapped in a chair anymore... http://members.iinet.net.au/~celsim/sydney/slides/070119_07.html Good gravy, Simon, I would guess so! He's already 9 or so...a bit too old for restraining, no? or maybe the age where it becomes imperative... Or perhaps if you just like that sort of thing. (Had to say it before Cotty did...) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Both great, but the first is priceless! -- Bruce Saturday, January 20, 2007, 9:49:07 AM, you wrote: BM --- Simon King [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rg2 said every development, every new experience they have, I get to see. Like not having to be strapped in a chair anymore... BM http://members.iinet.net.au/~celsim/sydney/slides/070119_07.html ...and is he happy about it! BM http://members.iinet.net.au/~celsim/sydney/slides/070119_06.html Simon BM That first one is a real gem, Simon. BM -Brendan BM BM Any questions? Get answers on any topic at BM www.Answers.yahoo.com. Try it now. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net