Re: GESO 2012 - USS Hornet - GDG
On Jan 24, 2012, at 18:40 , steve harley wrote: on 2012-01-24 00:36 Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote I took the M9 up to Alameda for a photo walk at the USS Hornet on Sunday. It was really the wrong camera for the task, but I wanted to get to know it better and push myself a bit. Quickie output ... thirty five photos in this set: http://gallery.me.com/godders#100435 A most enjoyable set. In real life carriers are a lot dirtier, with grime and streaked dirty grey paint. The interior lighting I see in your photos looks much more even and bright than I remember. this is very real; the details, for one who has some sense of the convoluted systems on these ships, are very suggestive of the whole (i could do without the people-shots, the airplanes, and the vignettes) just read a bit about the scuttling of the German High Seas Fleet, and a few months ago read an eye-opening (for a baby-boomer at least) book on the battle of Guadalcanal; i think warships, and how their little systems worked, are perhaps the perfect expression of the 20th century machine age; looking at controls and gauges, etc., one is forced to imagine the physical reality of the people who operated them Spent 10 months at sea and in various ports in 1965/66 in the south china sea on a carrier that is even newer than the one your were on, CVA-31, the Bon Homme Richard, built in New York in 1944. The thing you can't capture with a camera, or even sense in port is the incredible amount of noise those things make when at speed (40-45 knots), the steam turbines in the engine room hissing and whining, the screech of the arresting gear playing out every 45 seconds, the rumble of that heavy cable being drawn back across the deck for the next 20 something pilot to thump his plane onto the deck, all diminished by the undulating movements and rumbling sound of the entire steel envelope you are in being pushed through water by 4 huge brass propellers. The ship creates exclusive sounds at differing speeds, from the aforementioned rumble to a sound like shaking a large china cabinet so it beats against the wall, but more metallic. I've also been on more modern carriers (the Lincoln) but only cruising from Everett to Seattle, never exceeding 10 knots, if that. And was most surprised once stopped in Elliot Bay, beginning flight ops! Launching one or two of each type of aircraft aboard, then recovering them. The Bonnie Dick had to have at least 35 knots of wind down the deck to do that! We tourists toeing the yellow safety line on the angled deck catapult, which meant the wingtips of the F-14s and 18s passed about 4 feet in front of our noses as they were pulled into the sky pointing right at downtown, a mile or closer to our bow. Then came 9.11.01, and these publicity cruises stopped happening here. Probably everywhere. Well worth the $20 fee, 'cause you got lunch and free roam of the ship. Thanks for reading my memories. Images in a year or so when I start getting my slides scanned. Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com The Big Bang was silent, and invisible in it's beginning moments. Photons were one of the earliest particles to develop, but I don't think any were able to escape for a little bit more. Once they could, there would have been a flash during expansion. No one would notice, of course, for another 4.2 billion years. Now we are trying to catch up by looking out, and back in time to that infinitesimally small fraction of a millisecond in an attempt to see what caused that singularity to become the Big Bang. This attempt will fail in any visual way, as the furthest galaxies and elements are now moving faster than light by recent theory, making the information sought beyond a theoretical event horizon. — update to the Pentaxian's thoughts on particle physics, so far. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I really like these. I didn't recall you getting the M9, but that's only a small example of my forgetfulness. If I had gotten an M9, it would be the right camera for a long time ;-) What lens? On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 5:16 AM, Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com wrote: On Jan 24, 2012, at 18:40 , steve harley wrote: on 2012-01-24 00:36 Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote I took the M9 up to Alameda for a photo walk at the USS Hornet on Sunday. It was really the wrong camera for the task, but I wanted to get to know it better and push myself a bit. Quickie output ... thirty five photos in this set: http://gallery.me.com/godders#100435 A most enjoyable set. In real life carriers are a lot dirtier, with grime and streaked dirty grey paint. The interior lighting I see in your photos looks much more even and bright than I remember. this is very real; the details, for one who has some sense of the convoluted systems on these ships, are very suggestive of the whole (i could do without the people-shots, the airplanes, and the vignettes) just read a bit about the scuttling of the German High Seas Fleet, and a few months ago read an eye-opening (for a baby-boomer at least) book on the battle of Guadalcanal; i think warships, and how their little systems worked, are perhaps the perfect expression of the 20th century machine age; looking at controls and gauges, etc., one is forced to imagine the physical reality of the people who operated them Spent 10 months at sea and in various ports in 1965/66 in the south china sea on a carrier that is even newer than the one your were on, CVA-31, the Bon Homme Richard, built in New York in 1944. The thing you can't capture with a camera, or even sense in port is the incredible amount of noise those things make when at speed (40-45 knots), the steam turbines in the engine room hissing and whining, the screech of the arresting gear playing out every 45 seconds, the rumble of that heavy cable being drawn back across the deck for the next 20 something pilot to thump his plane onto the deck, all diminished by the undulating movements and rumbling sound of the entire steel envelope you are in being pushed through water by 4 huge brass propellers. The ship creates exclusive sounds at differing speeds, from the aforementioned rumble to a sound like shaking a large china cabinet so it beats against the wall, but more metallic. I've also been on more modern carriers (the Lincoln) but only cruising from Everett to Seattle, never exceeding 10 knots, if that. And was most surprised once stopped in Elliot Bay, beginning flight ops! Launching one or two of each type of aircraft aboard, then recovering them. The Bonnie Dick had to have at least 35 knots of wind down the deck to do that! We tourists toeing the yellow safety line on the angled deck catapult, which meant the wingtips of the F-14s and 18s passed about 4 feet in front of our noses as they were pulled into the sky pointing right at downtown, a mile or closer to our bow. Then came 9.11.01, and these publicity cruises stopped happening here. Probably everywhere. Well worth the $20 fee, 'cause you got lunch and free roam of the ship. Thanks for reading my memories. Images in a year or so when I start getting my slides scanned. Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com The Big Bang was silent, and invisible in it's beginning moments. Photons were one of the earliest particles to develop, but I don't think any were able to escape for a little bit more. Once they could, there would have been a flash during expansion. No one would notice, of course, for another 4.2 billion years. Now we are trying to catch up by looking out, and back in time to that infinitesimally small fraction of a millisecond in an attempt to see what caused that singularity to become the Big Bang. This attempt will fail in any visual way, as the furthest galaxies and elements are now moving faster than light by recent theory, making the information sought beyond a theoretical event horizon. — update to the Pentaxian's thoughts on particle physics, so far. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thanks for all the comments! Steve, The M9 just arrived last Friday evening so this is all hot off the presses. :-) These photos were taken with the Voigtländer Ultron 28mm f/2 and Color-Skopar 50mm f/2.5. G On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 4:37 AM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote: I really like these. I didn't recall you getting the M9, but that's only a small example of my forgetfulness. If I had gotten an M9, it would be the right camera for a long time ;-) What lens? -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I was just commenting to a friend that many of my photography friends were reaching the age where they are were finally buying that camera they always wanted. In that regard, the M9 would be high on my list. On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 9:55 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for all the comments! Steve, The M9 just arrived last Friday evening so this is all hot off the presses. :-) These photos were taken with the Voigtländer Ultron 28mm f/2 and Color-Skopar 50mm f/2.5. G On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 4:37 AM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote: I really like these. I didn't recall you getting the M9, but that's only a small example of my forgetfulness. If I had gotten an M9, it would be the right camera for a long time ;-) What lens? -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 12:21 PM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote: I was just commenting to a friend that many of my photography friends were reaching the age where they are were finally buying that camera they always wanted. In that regard, the M9 would be high on my list. Not quite my situation. I owned Leica gear for many years prior to the digital era, only reason I sold it was that at the time (2001-2002) there was no confidence that Leica itself would survive at all *and* no good confidence that it would even be possible to make these lovely lenses work correctly with a digital sensor. AND there was the opportunity to sell off my Leica gear and buy into a Hassy Superwide and 500C/M setup, something I'd always wanted to try. I've simply returned to where I was a decade ago with the acquisition of the M4-2 and M9. Where I was a decade ago, albeit then with all Leica lenses at 1/4 the price it would cost me now. It will take a while to afford all the same lenses again if I find I really need/want them. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Like I said, you're finally buying the camera I always wanted. ;-) On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 5:39 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 12:21 PM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote: I was just commenting to a friend that many of my photography friends were reaching the age where they are were finally buying that camera they always wanted. In that regard, the M9 would be high on my list. Not quite my situation. I owned Leica gear for many years prior to the digital era, only reason I sold it was that at the time (2001-2002) there was no confidence that Leica itself would survive at all *and* no good confidence that it would even be possible to make these lovely lenses work correctly with a digital sensor. AND there was the opportunity to sell off my Leica gear and buy into a Hassy Superwide and 500C/M setup, something I'd always wanted to try. I've simply returned to where I was a decade ago with the acquisition of the M4-2 and M9. Where I was a decade ago, albeit then with all Leica lenses at 1/4 the price it would cost me now. It will take a while to afford all the same lenses again if I find I really need/want them. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 3:28 PM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote: Like I said, you're finally buying the camera I always wanted. ;-) MARK! -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 24 January 2012 07:36, Godfrey DiGiorgi ramar...@mac.com wrote: I took the M9 up to Alameda for a photo walk at the USS Hornet on Sunday. It was really the wrong camera for the task, but I wanted to get to know it better and push myself a bit. Quickie output ... thirty five photos in this set: http://gallery.me.com/godders#100435 Hope you enjoy! Godfrey Nice set. Proves the old adage the best camera is the one you've got with you. Chris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Hello Godfrey, I am a long-time lurker on PDML and rarely write anything, but when I saw this very fine GESO I immediately thought that there would be interest for it on a history discussion forum I participate in. Very nice photos and double interest, both history and a nice ship (there are some real naval nerds). Would you mind if I post a link to your GESO on it (forum.skalman.nu)? Thanks anyway for a nice GESO, I did enjoy it! Best regards, Jörgen Ursprungligt meddelande Från: ramar...@mac.com Datum: 2012-01-24 08:36 Till: SeePhoto Talkseeph...@micapeak.com, PAW Picture-A-Week project p...@micapeak.com, BAPhotoShooters BAPAbaphotoshoot...@yahoogroups.com, PDML ListPDML@pdml.net Ärende: GESO 2012 - USS Hornet - GDG I took the M9 up to Alameda for a photo walk at the USS Hornet on Sunday. It was really the wrong camera for the task, but I wanted to get to know it better and push myself a bit. Quickie output ... thirty five photos in this set: http://gallery.me.com/godders#100435 Hope you enjoy! Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Very enjoyable set. Dave On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 2:36 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi ramar...@mac.com wrote: I took the M9 up to Alameda for a photo walk at the USS Hornet on Sunday. It was really the wrong camera for the task, but I wanted to get to know it better and push myself a bit. Quickie output ... thirty five photos in this set: http://gallery.me.com/godders#100435 Hope you enjoy! Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Sure, no problem Jörgen! Thank you for the compliment. Godfrey On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 1:13 AM, jb.l...@telia.com jb.l...@telia.com wrote: Hello Godfrey, I am a long-time lurker on PDML and rarely write anything, but when I saw this very fine GESO I immediately thought that there would be interest for it on a history discussion forum I participate in. Very nice photos and double interest, both history and a nice ship (there are some real naval nerds). Would you mind if I post a link to your GESO on it (forum.skalman.nu)? Thanks anyway for a nice GESO, I did enjoy it! Best regards, Jörgen Ursprungligt meddelande Från: ramar...@mac.com Datum: 2012-01-24 08:36 Till: SeePhoto Talkseeph...@micapeak.com, PAW Picture-A-Week project p...@micapeak.com, BAPhotoShooters BAPAbaphotoshoot...@yahoogroups.com, PDML ListPDML@pdml.net Ärende: GESO 2012 - USS Hornet - GDG I took the M9 up to Alameda for a photo walk at the USS Hornet on Sunday. It was really the wrong camera for the task, but I wanted to get to know it better and push myself a bit. Quickie output ... thirty five photos in this set: http://gallery.me.com/godders#100435 Hope you enjoy! Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Nice collection of images. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Godfrey DiGiorgi ramar...@mac.com Subject: GESO 2012 - USS Hornet - GDG I took the M9 up to Alameda for a photo walk at the USS Hornet on Sunday. It was really the wrong camera for the task, but I wanted to get to know it better and push myself a bit. Quickie output ... thirty five photos in this set: http://gallery.me.com/godders#100435 Hope you enjoy! Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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What Ken said. Focusing on details served you well. Paul On Jan 24, 2012, at 11:16 AM, kwal...@peoplepc.com kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: Nice collection of images. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Godfrey DiGiorgi ramar...@mac.com Subject: GESO 2012 - USS Hornet - GDG I took the M9 up to Alameda for a photo walk at the USS Hornet on Sunday. It was really the wrong camera for the task, but I wanted to get to know it better and push myself a bit. Quickie output ... thirty five photos in this set: http://gallery.me.com/godders#100435 Hope you enjoy! Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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on 2012-01-24 00:36 Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote I took the M9 up to Alameda for a photo walk at the USS Hornet on Sunday. It was really the wrong camera for the task, but I wanted to get to know it better and push myself a bit. Quickie output ... thirty five photos in this set: http://gallery.me.com/godders#100435 this is very real; the details, for one who has some sense of the convoluted systems on these ships, are very suggestive of the whole (i could do without the people-shots, the airplanes, and the vignettes) just read a bit about the scuttling of the German High Seas Fleet, and a few months ago read an eye-opening (for a baby-boomer at least) book on the battle of Guadalcanal; i think warships, and how their little systems worked, are perhaps the perfect expression of the 20th century machine age; looking at controls and gauges, etc., one is forced to imagine the physical reality of the people who operated them -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Nice set, Godfrey! You seem to be getting used to your new camera quite nicely! :-) cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com Sent: January 24, 2012 1/24/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: GESO 2012 - USS Hornet - GDG Sure, no problem Jörgen! Thank you for the compliment. Godfrey On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 1:13 AM, jb.l...@telia.com jb.l...@telia.com wrote: Hello Godfrey, I am a long-time lurker on PDML and rarely write anything, but when I saw this very fine GESO I immediately thought that there would be interest for it on a history discussion forum I participate in. Very nice photos and double interest, both history and a nice ship (there are some real naval nerds). Would you mind if I post a link to your GESO on it (forum.skalman.nu)? Thanks anyway for a nice GESO, I did enjoy it! Best regards, Jörgen Ursprungligt meddelande Från: ramar...@mac.com Datum: 2012-01-24 08:36 Till: SeePhoto Talkseeph...@micapeak.com, PAW Picture-A-Week project p...@micapeak.com, BAPhotoShooters BAPAbaphotoshoot...@yahoogroups.com, PDML ListPDML@pdml.net Ärende: GESO 2012 - USS Hornet - GDG I took the M9 up to Alameda for a photo walk at the USS Hornet on Sunday. It was really the wrong camera for the task, but I wanted to get to know it better and push myself a bit. Quickie output ... thirty five photos in this set: http://gallery.me.com/godders#100435 Hope you enjoy! Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
GESO 2012 - USS Hornet - GDG
I took the M9 up to Alameda for a photo walk at the USS Hornet on Sunday. It was really the wrong camera for the task, but I wanted to get to know it better and push myself a bit. Quickie output ... thirty five photos in this set: http://gallery.me.com/godders#100435 Hope you enjoy! Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 1/23/2012 11:36 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: I took the M9 up to Alameda for a photo walk at the USS Hornet on Sunday. It was really the wrong camera for the task, but I wanted to get to know it better and push myself a bit. Quickie output ... thirty five photos in this set: http://gallery.me.com/godders#100435 You seem to have overcome the shortcomings of your tools. There are some nice photos in that set. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (from dos4est) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
