Re: Ghia or Volkswagen's 'Custom Body'
On Jul 4, 2011, at 06:40 , Bob Sullivan wrote: Problem is the exhaust pipes run thru the transmission hump in the middle of the car. That is guaranteed to make you hot. Regards, Bob S. I think Bob is making a funny. If not — Could I see an IPB that shows how they do that on either a Ghia or Beetle? :-) The problem was (still is) the engine oil from the head gasket or pushrod tube seal leaks drip or drizzle down on to the heat exchangers, where it turns to an oily vapor that the engine cooling fan dutifully pushes into the car when the flapper valve is opened, coating you and the inside of the windshield with a light haze of oil. Easy to remove, 'cause the windshield is so small next to my Dodge's half acre of glass. The optional gasoline heater caused the interior to have a kerosene odor. And it needed a costly rebuild every fall after being idle for 4 to 6 months. It's big advantage was you could run through the snow out to your car in your slippers, turn it on, then hurriedly get dressed before it shut off after 15 minutes. You were welcomed to a fully heated car that smelled like kerosene! :-) Ask Paul about the weight and area of the glass in modern front engined cars. It's for streamlining to lower the drag coefficient. Saves gas. I would like to state that my 1990 Dodge Grand Caravan SE with a 3.3 liter V-6 got an average of 14 MPG driving around town, rarely more than 3 or 4 miles at a time, whereas my new used 2004 Dodge Grand Caravan eX with it's 3.8 liter V-6 just rewarded me with 11.9 MPG. Streamlining below 35 mph don't do squat. But I must blame it in part on the fully optioned, with eleven electric motors for the windows, sunroof, and side doors, eX curb weight of 4318 lbs, 4712 with the bolted on towing package, me, the dogs, and my latte in it. Compared to the 1990 with 2 electric windows and a radio at 3453 lbs without the rear third seat, which I sent to the dump as it was taking up too much space in the shed, or 3871 with the same cargo in it. Highway driving the 2004 wins at 29.6 mpg vs the 1990 at 25.8 mpg. Looking up the specs and history, going from 150 hp to 215 hp could cause some of that gas-guzzling increase. Sorry for the ramble. Guess I just love to look up specs and type! :-) Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com I couldn't remember most of what I know today if it weren't for others sharing their knowledge of my past on the Internet. Thank you… On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 3:28 AM, Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com wrote: And that's a smokey oily too hot! Joseph McAllister Pentaxian http://gallery.me.com/jomac On Jul 4, 2011, at 01:23 , Ecke PDML wrote: But you have to give it to the Vettes that their heaters had more settings than off and too hot. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Ghia or Volkswagen's 'Custom Body'
Yeah, a Corvette V8 and a VW flat 4 pretty much have their fuel consumption and acceleration figures inversed mutually crosswise. 0-100 km/h in a VW is about a Vette's l/100 km and vice versa ]=) But you have to give it to the Vettes that their heaters had more settings than off and too hot. Cheers Ecke 2011/7/3 Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com: Morris, That's pretty much the way I remember it as well. The VW's, whether dressed as a Beetle or Carmen Ghia, were very slow. I drove home from college in one in '65, a thousand miles. Either the gas pedal was floored or you were on the brakes. My son has a '75 Corvette now and even the stock small V8 beats 21 seconds 0-60mph. Regards, Bob S. On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 6:57 AM, Morris Galloway morris-gallo...@sbcglobal.net wrote: De-Lurking again regarding that well-known hot-rod, the Volkswagen flat-four engined 1.1 liter (later increased incrementally by a tenth of a liter from time to time.) It was/is rumored the little chassis housed a power-house of an engine. A Tire-Shredder in acceleration. (PDML 2 July, 4:47 pm. A stock'74 Ghia would do 0-60 faster than a Corvette of the same era.) Sure wasn't that way where I lived in the 1950's, and 60's and '70's. The VW Ghia or Beetle could barely pull it's shadow away from the curb. (O.K. Kerb for some.) The 'VW Werkes' published 21.30 seconds zero to 100 kmp, or 62mph for the Ghia in 74, and top speed of the Ghia, 138 km/h or about 84. Hmm. Compared to the oft cited slow-basic-stock 195 hp 1974 'Vette was around 9 or 10 seconds. With a stock-basic 350 CI engine (Or 5.7 liters.) Most people optioned up to the 250 hp in 1974. My father and I owned Three brand-spanking New Corvettes between 1963 and the early 80's. Granted the U.S.A. began to limit nasty auto emissions around 1968, but the limits affected everybody, even VW and Karmann. Every auto suffered a performance decrease. If someone owned a 7 to 8 second Stock '74 Ghia they need to call the Guinness world record people. At the age of 17, with a Brand New Corvette Sting Ray 1963, I'm here to state with the 4.11 rear end, 11.5 to one compression ratio and advertised 365 hp, All Stock, you could see 146 indicated. And 0-60 in the sixes. And yes, the tires wore out pretty quickly when inflated to 40 psi. And yes, the high school / college girls fell all over you. Ahem. Oh, Red. Convertible. And No. Never got beaten by a Karmann Ghia bodied Volkswagen, stock or otherwise. Remember 'There is no substitute for cubic inches' which may have been first attributed to Big Daddy Don Garlits or maybe Mickey Thompson. The 1974 Corvette, 350 CI, or 5.7 liters and up to 454; the VW started in 1938 with 1.1 and ended with 1.6 liters when production stopped. Now, shutting up and getting ready for Choir Practice. And Re-Lurking. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Ghia or Volkswagen's 'Custom Body'
And that's a smokey oily too hot! Joseph McAllister Pentaxian http://gallery.me.com/jomac On Jul 4, 2011, at 01:23 , Ecke PDML wrote: But you have to give it to the Vettes that their heaters had more settings than off and too hot. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Ghia or Volkswagen's 'Custom Body'
HAR! 2011/7/4 Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com: And that's a smokey oily too hot! Joseph McAllister Pentaxian http://gallery.me.com/jomac On Jul 4, 2011, at 01:23 , Ecke PDML wrote: But you have to give it to the Vettes that their heaters had more settings than off and too hot. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Ghia or Volkswagen's 'Custom Body'
Problem is the exhaust pipes run thru the transmission hump in the middle of the car. That is guaranteed to make you hot. Regards, Bob S. On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 3:28 AM, Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com wrote: And that's a smokey oily too hot! Joseph McAllister Pentaxian http://gallery.me.com/jomac On Jul 4, 2011, at 01:23 , Ecke PDML wrote: But you have to give it to the Vettes that their heaters had more settings than off and too hot. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
re: Ghia or Volkswagen's 'Custom Body'
De-Lurking again regarding that well-known hot-rod, the Volkswagen flat-four engined 1.1 liter (later increased incrementally by a tenth of a liter from time to time.) It was/is rumored the little chassis housed a power-house of an engine. A Tire-Shredder in acceleration. (PDML 2 July, 4:47 pm. A stock'74 Ghia would do 0-60 faster than a Corvette of the same era.) Sure wasn't that way where I lived in the 1950's, and 60's and '70's. The VW Ghia or Beetle could barely pull it's shadow away from the curb. (O.K. Kerb for some.) The 'VW Werkes' published 21.30 seconds zero to 100 kmp, or 62mph for the Ghia in 74, and top speed of the Ghia, 138 km/h or about 84. Hmm. Compared to the oft cited slow-basic-stock 195 hp 1974 'Vette was around 9 or 10 seconds. With a stock-basic 350 CI engine (Or 5.7 liters.) Most people optioned up to the 250 hp in 1974. My father and I owned Three brand-spanking New Corvettes between 1963 and the early 80's. Granted the U.S.A. began to limit nasty auto emissions around 1968, but the limits affected everybody, even VW and Karmann. Every auto suffered a performance decrease. If someone owned a 7 to 8 second Stock '74 Ghia they need to call the Guinness world record people. At the age of 17, with a Brand New Corvette Sting Ray 1963, I'm here to state with the 4.11 rear end, 11.5 to one compression ratio and advertised 365 hp, All Stock, you could see 146 indicated. And 0-60 in the sixes. And yes, the tires wore out pretty quickly when inflated to 40 psi. And yes, the high school / college girls fell all over you. Ahem. Oh, Red. Convertible. And No. Never got beaten by a Karmann Ghia bodied Volkswagen, stock or otherwise. Remember 'There is no substitute for cubic inches' which may have been first attributed to Big Daddy Don Garlits or maybe Mickey Thompson. The 1974 Corvette, 350 CI, or 5.7 liters and up to 454; the VW started in 1938 with 1.1 and ended with 1.6 liters when production stopped. Now, shutting up and getting ready for Choir Practice. And Re-Lurking. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Ghia or Volkswagen's 'Custom Body'
Morris, That's pretty much the way I remember it as well. The VW's, whether dressed as a Beetle or Carmen Ghia, were very slow. I drove home from college in one in '65, a thousand miles. Either the gas pedal was floored or you were on the brakes. My son has a '75 Corvette now and even the stock small V8 beats 21 seconds 0-60mph. Regards, Bob S. On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 6:57 AM, Morris Galloway morris-gallo...@sbcglobal.net wrote: De-Lurking again regarding that well-known hot-rod, the Volkswagen flat-four engined 1.1 liter (later increased incrementally by a tenth of a liter from time to time.) It was/is rumored the little chassis housed a power-house of an engine. A Tire-Shredder in acceleration. (PDML 2 July, 4:47 pm. A stock'74 Ghia would do 0-60 faster than a Corvette of the same era.) Sure wasn't that way where I lived in the 1950's, and 60's and '70's. The VW Ghia or Beetle could barely pull it's shadow away from the curb. (O.K. Kerb for some.) The 'VW Werkes' published 21.30 seconds zero to 100 kmp, or 62mph for the Ghia in 74, and top speed of the Ghia, 138 km/h or about 84. Hmm. Compared to the oft cited slow-basic-stock 195 hp 1974 'Vette was around 9 or 10 seconds. With a stock-basic 350 CI engine (Or 5.7 liters.) Most people optioned up to the 250 hp in 1974. My father and I owned Three brand-spanking New Corvettes between 1963 and the early 80's. Granted the U.S.A. began to limit nasty auto emissions around 1968, but the limits affected everybody, even VW and Karmann. Every auto suffered a performance decrease. If someone owned a 7 to 8 second Stock '74 Ghia they need to call the Guinness world record people. At the age of 17, with a Brand New Corvette Sting Ray 1963, I'm here to state with the 4.11 rear end, 11.5 to one compression ratio and advertised 365 hp, All Stock, you could see 146 indicated. And 0-60 in the sixes. And yes, the tires wore out pretty quickly when inflated to 40 psi. And yes, the high school / college girls fell all over you. Ahem. Oh, Red. Convertible. And No. Never got beaten by a Karmann Ghia bodied Volkswagen, stock or otherwise. Remember 'There is no substitute for cubic inches' which may have been first attributed to Big Daddy Don Garlits or maybe Mickey Thompson. The 1974 Corvette, 350 CI, or 5.7 liters and up to 454; the VW started in 1938 with 1.1 and ended with 1.6 liters when production stopped. Now, shutting up and getting ready for Choir Practice. And Re-Lurking. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
