K-5 pricing

2012-07-20 Thread Stan Halpin
Just saw a note that BH has the K-5 at $879. Not sure if this is a recent 
change, I know the price has been headed downward. Given all of the positive 
reports I have seen here, I am so so tempted. (Currently using K-20.) But I 
have been thinking I would wait for the next generation . . .

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Re: K-5 pricing

2012-07-20 Thread David J Brooks
Get it and you will be glad

Dave

On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 11:58 AM, Stan Halpin
s...@stans-photography.info wrote:
 Just saw a note that BH has the K-5 at $879. Not sure if this is a recent 
 change, I know the price has been headed downward. Given all of the positive 
 reports I have seen here, I am so so tempted. (Currently using K-20.) But I 
 have been thinking I would wait for the next generation . . .

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Re: K-5 pricing

2012-07-20 Thread Steven Desjardins
The next generation will either be much more expensive or the K30.  It
seems the K5 is the same or better than the K30 in all but AF speed.
I think the K30 is a good move by Pentax, basically leaving a version
of the K5 in production, the the K5 itself is probably  a somewhat
better camera. Can you tell I've been thinking about this too?

On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 11:59 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:
 Get it and you will be glad

 Dave

 On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 11:58 AM, Stan Halpin
 s...@stans-photography.info wrote:
 Just saw a note that BH has the K-5 at $879. Not sure if this is a recent 
 change, I know the price has been headed downward. Given all of the positive 
 reports I have seen here, I am so so tempted. (Currently using K-20.) But I 
 have been thinking I would wait for the next generation . . .

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Re: K-5 pricing

2012-07-20 Thread Larry Colen

On Jul 20, 2012, at 8:58 AM, Stan Halpin wrote:

 Just saw a note that BH has the K-5 at $879. Not sure if this is a recent 
 change, I know the price has been headed downward. Given all of the positive 
 reports I have seen here, I am so so tempted. (Currently using K-20.) But I 
 have been thinking I would wait for the next generation . . .

If you were to get the K-5 you would not regret having the K-5.  It is an 
excellent camera. But, it's not a perfect camera, there are definitely areas 
where it could be better. If you can wait a month or two, until the next 
generation is announced, either the next generation will be a lot better, the 
price on the K-5 will drop a bit more, or both.

I don't think that there have been any huge leaps in sensor performance, like 
that between the K20 and Kx since the K-5, but there have been incremental 
ones.  I would hope that they would keep the same resolution and go for even 
better noise and dynamic range, but I suspect that it will go the other way, 
keep similar noise and DNR and cram more pixels on. Megapixels are an easier 
sell than things that make a bigger difference to more people more often.

If they do go for resolution, I hope that they go for high enough resolution so 
as to make the anti-aliasing filter unnecessary.  If you're going to outresolve 
lenses, might as outresolve every lens, and be done with it.

It's also quite possible that the next one would have a 24x36 sensor, but I 
suspect that if they do that, they'll have an APS between the K-5 and it.  I 
doubt that they'll announce them at the same time though.  Probably the 
Cottybane first, so that more people will buy the more expensive camera, then a 
less expensive one, lest people blow their money on the less expensive one, and 
not be able to afford the flagship.


 
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Re: K-5 pricing

2012-07-20 Thread Stan Halpin

On Jul 20, 2012, at 1:19 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

 
 On Jul 20, 2012, at 8:58 AM, Stan Halpin wrote:
 Just saw a note that BH has the K-5 at $879. Not sure if this is a recent 
 change, I know the price has been headed downward. Given all of the positive 
 reports I have seen here, I am so so tempted. (Currently using K-20.) But I 
 have been thinking I would wait for the next generation . . .
 
 If you were to get the K-5 you would not regret having the K-5.  It is an 
 excellent camera. But, it's not a perfect camera, there are definitely areas 
 where it could be better. If you can wait a month or two, until the next 
 generation is announced, either the next generation will be a lot better, the 
 price on the K-5 will drop a bit more, or both.
 
 I don't think that there have been any huge leaps in sensor performance, like 
 that between the K20 and Kx since the K-5, but there have been incremental 
 ones.  I would hope that they would keep the same resolution and go for even 
 better noise and dynamic range, but I suspect that it will go the other way, 
 keep similar noise and DNR and cram more pixels on. Megapixels are an easier 
 sell than things that make a bigger difference to more people more often.
 
 If they do go for resolution, I hope that they go for high enough resolution 
 so as to make the anti-aliasing filter unnecessary.  If you're going to 
 outresolve lenses, might as outresolve every lens, and be done with it.
 
 It's also quite possible that the next one would have a 24x36 sensor, but I 
 suspect that if they do that, they'll have an APS between the K-5 and it.  I 
 doubt that they'll announce them at the same time though.  Probably the 
 Cottybane first, so that more people will buy the more expensive camera, then 
 a less expensive one, lest people blow their money on the less expensive one, 
 and not be able to afford the flagship.
 
I went ahead with the purchase. Two big motivators were that I am going to 
Costa Rica for ten days (leaving in a few days), and the positive comments 
here. I am sure I will not regret owning the K-5 and am having trouble 
imagining what could be improved (except the eternal AF-speed issue.) And I am 
sure I would regret not having the K-5 the first time I tried to get decent 
low-light shots in the rain forest. And I'll only have 1-2 days for touristy 
stuff so will not want to miss the few photo-ops I hope to have.

I am expecting two new cameras from Pentax, along the lines you've laid out 
Larry. One will be a minor feature upgrade to the K-5; that K-5s will remain as 
the top of the APS line with two control wheels, LCD display on top, water 
resistance, etc. The second will be the LX-D or MZ-D1 with K-5 controls and 
features but a 24x36 sensor. Resolution will obviously be higher, but noise 
will be an issue over ISO 800. The firmware will adapt/reduce the active sensor 
area to avoid vignetting on D-series lenses which do not cover the full frame. 
Most of us will lust after it but not many of us will need the extra 
resolution.

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Re: K-5 pricing

2012-07-20 Thread Larry Colen

On Jul 20, 2012, at 10:46 AM, Stan Halpin wrote:

 
 On Jul 20, 2012, at 1:19 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
 
 
 I went ahead with the purchase. Two big motivators were that I am going to 
 Costa Rica for ten days (leaving in a few days), and the positive comments 
 here. I am sure I will not regret owning the K-5 and am having trouble 
 imagining what could be improved (except the eternal AF-speed issue.) And I 
 am sure I would regret not having the K-5 the first time I tried to get 
 decent low-light shots in the rain forest. And I'll only have 1-2 days for 
 touristy stuff so will not want to miss the few photo-ops I hope to have.

If you had mentioned the trip beforehand, I would have definitely said to get 
the K-5 now. Even if you were to sell the K-5 used in six months to upgrade to 
whatever else comes along, it would be worth it to have the extra low light 
performance on your trip.

While you are at it, invest in some 32GB 45MB/S SD cards.  The files on the K-5 
can be a lot larger than on the K20.


 
 I am expecting two new cameras from Pentax, along the lines you've laid out 
 Larry. One will be a minor feature upgrade to the K-5; that K-5s will remain 
 as the top of the APS line with two control wheels, LCD display on top, water 
 resistance, etc. The second will be the LX-D or MZ-D1 with K-5 controls and 
 features but a 24x36 sensor. Resolution will obviously be higher, but noise 
 will be an issue over ISO 800.

Looking at what is coming out of 5Dmk3 and D800 bodies, I don't think noise 
will be any worse than on the K-5.  

 The firmware will adapt/reduce the active sensor area to avoid vignetting on 
 D-series lenses which do not cover the full frame. Most of us will lust after 
 it but not many of us will need the extra resolution.
 
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Re: K-5 pricing

2012-07-20 Thread Jeffery Smith
My advice is that anyone on this list who doesn't have a K-5 should get one at 
this price. It is the flagship of the Pentax dSLR line and competes very well 
with comparable dSLRs costing much more.

Sent from my iPad

Jeffery L. Smith
New Orleans, Louisiana
USA

On Jul 20, 2012, at 13:46, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:

 
 On Jul 20, 2012, at 10:46 AM, Stan Halpin wrote:
 
 
 On Jul 20, 2012, at 1:19 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
 
 
 I went ahead with the purchase. Two big motivators were that I am going to 
 Costa Rica for ten days (leaving in a few days), and the positive comments 
 here. I am sure I will not regret owning the K-5 and am having trouble 
 imagining what could be improved (except the eternal AF-speed issue.) And I 
 am sure I would regret not having the K-5 the first time I tried to get 
 decent low-light shots in the rain forest. And I'll only have 1-2 days for 
 touristy stuff so will not want to miss the few photo-ops I hope to have.
 
 If you had mentioned the trip beforehand, I would have definitely said to get 
 the K-5 now. Even if you were to sell the K-5 used in six months to upgrade 
 to whatever else comes along, it would be worth it to have the extra low 
 light performance on your trip.
 
 While you are at it, invest in some 32GB 45MB/S SD cards.  The files on the 
 K-5 can be a lot larger than on the K20.
 
 
 
 I am expecting two new cameras from Pentax, along the lines you've laid out 
 Larry. One will be a minor feature upgrade to the K-5; that K-5s will remain 
 as the top of the APS line with two control wheels, LCD display on top, 
 water resistance, etc. The second will be the LX-D or MZ-D1 with K-5 
 controls and features but a 24x36 sensor. Resolution will obviously be 
 higher, but noise will be an issue over ISO 800.
 
 Looking at what is coming out of 5Dmk3 and D800 bodies, I don't think noise 
 will be any worse than on the K-5.  
 
 The firmware will adapt/reduce the active sensor area to avoid vignetting on 
 D-series lenses which do not cover the full frame. Most of us will lust 
 after it but not many of us will need the extra resolution.
 
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RE: K-5 pricing

2012-07-20 Thread J.C. O'Connell
Once the next generation does come out, the k5 will probably
be discounted even more while they last

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Just saw a note that BH has the K-5 at $879. Not sure if this is a recent
change, I know the price has been headed downward. Given all of the positive
reports I have seen here, I am so so tempted. (Currently using K-20.) But I
have been thinking I would wait for the next generation . . .

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