Re: KEH BGN

2011-07-05 Thread Bulent Celasun
It stands for BarGaiN but I guess other, better acronym solutions may
also be offered :)

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2011/7/5 Jeffery Johnson jefferytjohn...@bellsouth.net:
 Okay, me being a novice here what does BGN stand for?

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 In more than a handful purchases over a few years, I have never been
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 2011/7/4 Ecke PDML overpenta...@googlemail.com:
 Yeah, agree on the five bucks, my main interest was how good is BGN
 though.
 Cheers
 Ecke

 2011/7/4 Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com:
 I agree with Bulent.  I never hesitate to get bgn garde form BH, bit
 not for 5 USD.

 On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 3:53 PM, Bulent Celasun bulent.cela...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 I would certainly go for the EX+ item for those prices.

 I would seriously consider the BGN one if they were for 60, 100 and 110
 USD.

 I also realize that this probably tells more about myself than KEH
 categories :)

 Bulent
 
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 2011/7/4 Ecke PDML overpenta...@googlemail.com:
 I hear KEH's item ratings are very conservative - given the choice
 between KEH BGN for $6, EX for $10 and EX+ for $11, will BGN do if
 looks don't matter or could EX/+ last longer?
 Thanks
 Ecke

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Re: KEH BGN

2011-07-05 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 12:39 PM, Ecke PDML overpenta...@googlemail.com wrote:
 I hear KEH's item ratings are very conservative - given the choice
 between KEH BGN for $6, EX for $10 and EX+ for $11, will BGN do if
 looks don't matter or could EX/+ last longer?

KEH rates very conservatively. I've had the pleasure of doing business
with them for many years and they have always sent better than
expected.

On the other hand, for pricing in that range, I'd just go with EX+.

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KEH BGN

2011-07-04 Thread Ecke PDML
I hear KEH's item ratings are very conservative - given the choice
between KEH BGN for $6, EX for $10 and EX+ for $11, will BGN do if
looks don't matter or could EX/+ last longer?
Thanks
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Re: KEH BGN

2011-07-04 Thread Bulent Celasun
I would certainly go for the EX+ item for those prices.

I would seriously consider the BGN one if they were for 60, 100 and 110 USD.

I also realize that this probably tells more about myself than KEH categories :)

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2011/7/4 Ecke PDML overpenta...@googlemail.com:
 I hear KEH's item ratings are very conservative - given the choice
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 looks don't matter or could EX/+ last longer?
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Re: KEH BGN

2011-07-04 Thread Steven Desjardins
I agree with Bulent.  I never hesitate to get bgn garde form BH, bit
not for 5 USD.

On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 3:53 PM, Bulent Celasun bulent.cela...@gmail.com wrote:
 I would certainly go for the EX+ item for those prices.

 I would seriously consider the BGN one if they were for 60, 100 and 110 USD.

 I also realize that this probably tells more about myself than KEH categories 
 :)

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 2011/7/4 Ecke PDML overpenta...@googlemail.com:
 I hear KEH's item ratings are very conservative - given the choice
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 looks don't matter or could EX/+ last longer?
 Thanks
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Re: KEH BGN

2011-07-04 Thread Ecke PDML
Yeah, agree on the five bucks, my main interest was how good is BGN though.
Cheers
Ecke

2011/7/4 Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com:
 I agree with Bulent.  I never hesitate to get bgn garde form BH, bit
 not for 5 USD.

 On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 3:53 PM, Bulent Celasun bulent.cela...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 I would certainly go for the EX+ item for those prices.

 I would seriously consider the BGN one if they were for 60, 100 and 110 USD.

 I also realize that this probably tells more about myself than KEH 
 categories :)

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 2011/7/4 Ecke PDML overpenta...@googlemail.com:
 I hear KEH's item ratings are very conservative - given the choice
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 looks don't matter or could EX/+ last longer?
 Thanks
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Re: KEH BGN

2011-07-04 Thread Bulent Celasun
In more than a handful purchases over a few years, I have never been
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2011/7/4 Ecke PDML overpenta...@googlemail.com:
 Yeah, agree on the five bucks, my main interest was how good is BGN though.
 Cheers
 Ecke

 2011/7/4 Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com:
 I agree with Bulent.  I never hesitate to get bgn garde form BH, bit
 not for 5 USD.

 On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 3:53 PM, Bulent Celasun bulent.cela...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 I would certainly go for the EX+ item for those prices.

 I would seriously consider the BGN one if they were for 60, 100 and 110 USD.

 I also realize that this probably tells more about myself than KEH 
 categories :)

 Bulent
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 http://photo.net/photodb/user?user_id=2226822
 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/bulentcelasun




 2011/7/4 Ecke PDML overpenta...@googlemail.com:
 I hear KEH's item ratings are very conservative - given the choice
 between KEH BGN for $6, EX for $10 and EX+ for $11, will BGN do if
 looks don't matter or could EX/+ last longer?
 Thanks
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RE: KEH BGN

2011-07-04 Thread Jeffery Johnson
Okay, me being a novice here what does BGN stand for?

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In more than a handful purchases over a few years, I have never been
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2011/7/4 Ecke PDML overpenta...@googlemail.com:
 Yeah, agree on the five bucks, my main interest was how good is BGN
though.
 Cheers
 Ecke

 2011/7/4 Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com:
 I agree with Bulent.  I never hesitate to get bgn garde form BH, bit 
 not for 5 USD.

 On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 3:53 PM, Bulent Celasun bulent.cela...@gmail.com
wrote:
 I would certainly go for the EX+ item for those prices.

 I would seriously consider the BGN one if they were for 60, 100 and 110
USD.

 I also realize that this probably tells more about myself than KEH 
 categories :)

 Bulent
 
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 http://photo.net/photodb/user?user_id=2226822
 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/bulentcelasun




 2011/7/4 Ecke PDML overpenta...@googlemail.com:
 I hear KEH's item ratings are very conservative - given the choice 
 between KEH BGN for $6, EX for $10 and EX+ for $11, will BGN do if 
 looks don't matter or could EX/+ last longer?
 Thanks
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RE: KEH BGN

2011-07-04 Thread John Sessoms

From: Ecke PDML

I hear KEH's item ratings are very conservative - given the choice
between KEH BGN for $6, EX for $10 and EX+ for $11, will BGN do if
looks don't matter or could EX/+ last longer?
Thanks
Ecke




KEH BGN will usually be good enough to get the job done, but at those 
prices I'd likely opt for the EX+ anyway.



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Re: KEH BGN

2011-07-04 Thread John Sessoms

From: Ecke PDML

Yeah, agree on the five bucks, my main interest was how good is BGN though.
Cheers
Ecke


If you click on the KEH grade, it brings up their rating system. My 
experience is they *APPLY* those ratings very conservatively.


I have purchased BGN grade items from KEH and when I inspected the item 
upon receipt, the appearance was such that I would have rated the item 
higher based on KEH's published criteria.


That said, given the choice of BGN or EX from KEH, I usually opt for EX 
because the prices are not that much higher, while the equipment is 
often that much better.


I think you get the highest quality per dollar spent by buying the EX 
grade from KEH.



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RE: KEH BGN

2011-07-04 Thread Bob W
at that price you can buy them all and get a reference standard.

B

 
 Yeah, agree on the five bucks, my main interest was how good is BGN
 though.
 Cheers
 Ecke
 
 2011/7/4 Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com:
  I agree with Bulent.  I never hesitate to get bgn garde form BH, bit
  not for 5 USD.
 
  On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 3:53 PM, Bulent Celasun
 bulent.cela...@gmail.com wrote:
  I would certainly go for the EX+ item for those prices.
 
  I would seriously consider the BGN one if they were for 60, 100 and
 110 USD.
 
  I also realize that this probably tells more about myself than KEH
 categories :)
 
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  2011/7/4 Ecke PDML overpenta...@googlemail.com:
  I hear KEH's item ratings are very conservative - given the choice
  between KEH BGN for $6, EX for $10 and EX+ for $11, will BGN do if
  looks don't matter or could EX/+ last longer?
  Thanks
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Re: KEH BGN

2011-07-04 Thread Stan Halpin

On Jul 4, 2011, at 3:39 PM, Ecke PDML wrote:

 I hear KEH's item ratings are very conservative - given the choice
 between KEH BGN for $6, EX for $10 and EX+ for $11, will BGN do if
 looks don't matter or could EX/+ last longer?
 Thanks
 Ecke
 

It is the difference between buying new vs. used. EX+ is going to be so close 
to NIB that you will have a very hard time telling the difference. EX may show 
very slight signs of wear, if you look very closely. The BGN is going to look 
like any used item you buy from someone else - you will know it has been used, 
but you will feel smug because you got a perfectly functioning camera or lens 
or flash or whatever for a very good price. So, how much is it worth to you to 
buy like-new vs. very-good-used? 

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Re: KEH BGN

2011-07-04 Thread drd1135
BGN is bargain grade.  
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Subject: RE: KEH BGN

Okay, me being a novice here what does BGN stand for?

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Subject: Re: KEH BGN

In more than a handful purchases over a few years, I have never been
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Bulent

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2011/7/4 Ecke PDML overpenta...@googlemail.com:
 Yeah, agree on the five bucks, my main interest was how good is BGN
though.
 Cheers
 Ecke

 2011/7/4 Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com:
 I agree with Bulent.  I never hesitate to get bgn garde form BH, bit 
 not for 5 USD.

 On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 3:53 PM, Bulent Celasun bulent.cela...@gmail.com
wrote:
 I would certainly go for the EX+ item for those prices.

 I would seriously consider the BGN one if they were for 60, 100 and 110
USD.

 I also realize that this probably tells more about myself than KEH 
 categories :)

 Bulent
 
 - http://www.flickr.com/photos/bc_the_path/
 http://photo.net/photodb/user?user_id=2226822
 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/bulentcelasun




 2011/7/4 Ecke PDML overpenta...@googlemail.com:
 I hear KEH's item ratings are very conservative - given the choice 
 between KEH BGN for $6, EX for $10 and EX+ for $11, will BGN do if 
 looks don't matter or could EX/+ last longer?
 Thanks
 Ecke

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RE: KEH BGN

2011-07-04 Thread Jeffery Johnson
Thanks... now I know what BGN stands for...


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BGN is bargain grade.  
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Subject: RE: KEH BGN

Okay, me being a novice here what does BGN stand for?

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From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
Bulent Celasun
Sent: Monday, July 04, 2011 3:53 PM
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Subject: Re: KEH BGN

In more than a handful purchases over a few years, I have never been
dissatisfied with their BGNs.

Bulent

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2011/7/4 Ecke PDML overpenta...@googlemail.com:
 Yeah, agree on the five bucks, my main interest was how good is BGN
though.
 Cheers
 Ecke

 2011/7/4 Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com:
 I agree with Bulent.  I never hesitate to get bgn garde form BH, bit 
 not for 5 USD.

 On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 3:53 PM, Bulent Celasun 
 bulent.cela...@gmail.com
wrote:
 I would certainly go for the EX+ item for those prices.

 I would seriously consider the BGN one if they were for 60, 100 and 
 110
USD.

 I also realize that this probably tells more about myself than KEH 
 categories :)

 Bulent
 
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 2011/7/4 Ecke PDML overpenta...@googlemail.com:
 I hear KEH's item ratings are very conservative - given the choice 
 between KEH BGN for $6, EX for $10 and EX+ for $11, will BGN do if 
 looks don't matter or could EX/+ last longer?
 Thanks
 Ecke

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