Re: Ken Rockwell LOVES the Pentax DFA 100mm f/2.8 macro!!!
From: Larry Colen On 11/17/2010 12:15 PM, Miserere wrote: Well, in a roundabout way... http://kenrockwell.com/tokina/100mm-f28.htm Is the Tokina 100/2.8 macro the same as the Pentax? I'm pretty sure Tokina and Pentax worked together on the design. If it were a pure Tokina design there ought to be a k-mount version available from Tokina, although that may not mean as much as it once did. It seems like Tokina decided to make newer lenses available only in CanonEOS or Nikon mount, so just because it's not available in Pentax-K doesn't seem to indicate Pentax's participation in the design. I'm sure there's some relationship between Tokina and Hoya that divides the field up so they're not competing for Pentax shooters. Pentax manufactures the K-mount version, Tokina manufactures the Canikon mount versions. For some lenses there is no Pentax version ... no one seems to manufacture it. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Ken Rockwell LOVES the Pentax DFA 100mm f/2.8 macro!!!
Well, in a roundabout way... http://kenrockwell.com/tokina/100mm-f28.htm [dons flame suit for mentioning the unmentionable name] —M. \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Ken Rockwell LOVES the Pentax DFA 100mm f/2.8 macro!!!
I only have one word for Kennyboy, and that's putz... On 11/17/2010 12:15 PM, Miserere wrote: Well, in a roundabout way... http://kenrockwell.com/tokina/100mm-f28.htm [dons flame suit for mentioning the unmentionable name] —M. \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- His lack of education is more than compensated for by his keenly developed moral bankruptcy. -Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Ken Rockwell LOVES the Pentax DFA 100mm f/2.8 macro!!!
Damn he has all kinds of links to click on to give him money, I want one that takes it away. On 11/17/2010 12:15 PM, Miserere wrote: Well, in a roundabout way... http://kenrockwell.com/tokina/100mm-f28.htm [dons flame suit for mentioning the unmentionable name] —M. \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- His lack of education is more than compensated for by his keenly developed moral bankruptcy. -Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Ken Rockwell LOVES the Pentax DFA 100mm f/2.8 macro!!!
On Nov 17, 2010, at 9:17 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: I only have one word for Kennyboy, and that's putz... I invite you to produce a more successful photo website than his. At the very least, Kennyboy is a well known, and successful putz. As much fun as he is to make fun of, he is occasionally on target. After my FZ50 was stolen, it was his piece on the D40 that eventually ended up with me getting my K100. I was looking at the D40 and the competing Rebel when I heard the salesman discussing the K100 with another customer, and I realized that it had everything I liked about the D40 and none of the things I didn't like about the Rebel, plus it was cheaper and had in body image stabilization. Likewise, everything that he liked about his D40 applied to the K100. Mind you, if I could have used my old AIS lenses on a D40 the way I can use K lenses on a K100, I'd probably be shooting Nikon today. On 11/17/2010 12:15 PM, Miserere wrote: Well, in a roundabout way... http://kenrockwell.com/tokina/100mm-f28.htm Is the Tokina 100/2.8 macro the same as the Pentax? He does, however, make a few Rockwellisms in this piece. He categorically states that 200mm is better than 100mm because you get more working distance, when I find that I'm often using my 50mm or 20mm rather than the 90mm either because I don't have the room to be as far away as the 90 requires, or because I specifically want the wide angle perspective. [dons flame suit for mentioning the unmentionable name] I think that he's very good at giving simple, easy to understand, advice to people who don't know anything about photography. Note that I didn't say completely accurate advice. A is better because of B is a lot easier to digest than A is better because of B, except in cases of C, when D is better, unless you're shooting with a flash in which case neither matters because the interocitor is polarized anyways. Going way off topic, In the same scene that the interocitor is mentioned, they also mention one of these: http://search.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?Detailname=604-1018-ND Welcome to the 21st century. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Ken Rockwell LOVES the Pentax DFA 100mm f/2.8 macro!!!
Kennyboy is the John Stewart of photography. He has said he does it for laughs. Yet he sells himself as an expert. His advice to noob's is often positively damaging, and he wants to be paid for it. I, on the other hand, hang out here I freely give advice and don;t expect to be paid for it, good or bad. I think he's repulsive and his work runs to garish colors and bad composition, which you know probably would appeal to the least common denominator.He's at best a hack and at worst a charlatan. .I don't care how successful his web site is. On 11/17/2010 1:07 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On Nov 17, 2010, at 9:17 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: I only have one word for Kennyboy, and that's putz... I invite you to produce a more successful photo website than his. At the very least, Kennyboy is a well known, and successful putz. As much fun as he is to make fun of, he is occasionally on target. After my FZ50 was stolen, it was his piece on the D40 that eventually ended up with me getting my K100. I was looking at the D40 and the competing Rebel when I heard the salesman discussing the K100 with another customer, and I realized that it had everything I liked about the D40 and none of the things I didn't like about the Rebel, plus it was cheaper and had in body image stabilization. Likewise, everything that he liked about his D40 applied to the K100. Mind you, if I could have used my old AIS lenses on a D40 the way I can use K lenses on a K100, I'd probably be shooting Nikon today. On 11/17/2010 12:15 PM, Miserere wrote: Well, in a roundabout way... http://kenrockwell.com/tokina/100mm-f28.htm Is the Tokina 100/2.8 macro the same as the Pentax? He does, however, make a few Rockwellisms in this piece. He categorically states that 200mm is better than 100mm because you get more working distance, when I find that I'm often using my 50mm or 20mm rather than the 90mm either because I don't have the room to be as far away as the 90 requires, or because I specifically want the wide angle perspective. [dons flame suit for mentioning the unmentionable name] I think that he's very good at giving simple, easy to understand, advice to people who don't know anything about photography. Note that I didn't say completely accurate advice. A is better because of B is a lot easier to digest than A is better because of B, except in cases of C, when D is better, unless you're shooting with a flash in which case neither matters because the interocitor is polarized anyways. Going way off topic, In the same scene that the interocitor is mentioned, they also mention one of these: http://search.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?Detailname=604-1018-ND Welcome to the 21st century. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- His lack of education is more than compensated for by his keenly developed moral bankruptcy. -Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Ken Rockwell LOVES the Pentax DFA 100mm f/2.8 macro!!!
Hahahahaaa... did you know that the Nikon F6 is an APS-C digital? Quote: This is an FX lens, and works especially well with on FX, 35mm and DX Nikons like the D7000, D700, D3X, D300s and F6 2010/11/17 Miserere miser...@gmail.com: Well, in a roundabout way... http://kenrockwell.com/tokina/100mm-f28.htm [dons flame suit for mentioning the unmentionable name] —M. \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Ken Rockwell LOVES the Pentax DFA 100mm f/2.8 macro!!!
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 12:15 PM, Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote: Well, in a roundabout way... http://kenrockwell.com/tokina/100mm-f28.htm [dons flame suit for mentioning the unmentionable name] If he likes it, I'll buy something else.:-) I read his bit on lens sharpness. He must of got a good copy of the Tamron 28075. Mine was not Dave —M. \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Ken Rockwell LOVES the Pentax DFA 100mm f/2.8 macro!!!
Well, in a roundabout way... http://kenrockwell.com/tokina/100mm-f28.htm I *seriously* wish Pentax had included that focus limiter switch on their version of this lens. I get incredibly frustrated when I'm using my copy on my K10D and it rolls through the entire effing focus range while hunting for a lock. My K10D is probably part of the problem, but a limiter switch would have saved a lot of frustration with this lens. John -- http://www.neovenator.com http://www.cafepress.com/jacelio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Ken Rockwell LOVES the Pentax DFA 100mm f/2.8 macro!!!
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 10:07:22AM -0800, Larry Colen wrote: On Nov 17, 2010, at 9:17 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: I only have one word for Kennyboy, and that's putz... I invite you to produce a more successful photo website than his. At the very least, Kennyboy is a well known, and successful putz. Putz is far too kind a word for him. He depends on the stupidity of his audience. Nowadays he's even claiming that they can't print out a page of his drivel for their own personal use without sending him a fee of $5.00! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Ken Rockwell LOVES the Pentax DFA 100mm f/2.8 macro!!!
Hard to look at his site for more than a minute without being reminded numerous times to donate money to him. Even the Hare Krishnas give it a rest every now and then. Jeffery On Nov 17, 2010, at 11:15 AM, Miserere wrote: Well, in a roundabout way... http://kenrockwell.com/tokina/100mm-f28.htm [dons flame suit for mentioning the unmentionable name] —M. \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Ken Rockwell LOVES the Pentax DFA 100mm f/2.8 macro!!!
On Nov 17, 2010, at 12:50 PM, John Francis wrote: On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 10:07:22AM -0800, Larry Colen wrote: On Nov 17, 2010, at 9:17 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: I only have one word for Kennyboy, and that's putz... I invite you to produce a more successful photo website than his. At the very least, Kennyboy is a well known, and successful putz. Putz is far too kind a word for him. He depends on the stupidity of his audience. Nowadays he's even claiming that they can't print out a page of his drivel for their own personal use without sending him a fee of $5.00! I hadn't seen that. That is some classic dickwaddery. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Ken Rockwell LOVES the Pentax DFA 100mm f/2.8 macro!!!
On Wed, 17 Nov 2010 12:15 -0500, Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote: Well, in a roundabout way... http://kenrockwell.com/tokina/100mm-f28.htm [dons flame suit for mentioning the unmentionable name] You realise, of course, that you have broken a cardinal rule of the PDML by even looking at his site, much less mentioning the name here. Don't you realise that many members read the list over breakfast. What sort of effect is your violation of the rule going to have on their digestion? I've already had to replace my keyboard this morning. Your ongoing membership of the PDML must now be considered by the full board of the management committee as soon as anyone can find the full board of the management committee. I have to go now, I'm feeling unwell again. And I don't have any more spare keyboards Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Does exactly what it says on the tin -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Ken Rockwell LOVES the Pentax DFA 100mm f/2.8 macro!!!
Hey, lay off the Hare Krishnas, I like them. Their restaurant in Athens is very nice and was the only place (apart from the Hilton) we could eat when I was there with a veggie gf. B Hard to look at his site for more than a minute without being reminded numerous times to donate money to him. Even the Hare Krishnas give it a rest every now and then. Jeffery On Nov 17, 2010, at 11:15 AM, Miserere wrote: Well, in a roundabout way... http://kenrockwell.com/tokina/100mm-f28.htm [dons flame suit for mentioning the unmentionable name] -M. \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Ken Rockwell LOVES the Pentax DFA 100mm f/2.8 macro!!!
On 17 November 2010 16:31, Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm wrote: On Wed, 17 Nov 2010 12:15 -0500, Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote: Well, in a roundabout way... http://kenrockwell.com/tokina/100mm-f28.htm [dons flame suit for mentioning the unmentionable name] You realise, of course, that you have broken a cardinal rule of the PDML by even looking at his site, much less mentioning the name here. Don't you realise that many members read the list over breakfast. What sort of effect is your violation of the rule going to have on their digestion? I've already had to replace my keyboard this morning. Your ongoing membership of the PDML must now be considered by the full board of the management committee as soon as anyone can find the full board of the management committee. I have to go now, I'm feeling unwell again. And I don't have any more spare keyboards Cheers Brian My appologies, Brian. I hereby tend my resignation. From this thread. —M. \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Ken Rockwell LOVES the Pentax DFA 100mm f/2.8 macro!!!
If you read that again, you'll note he mentions DX (APS-C), FX (FF 35mm Digital) and 35mm (35mm film) and then lists exampls of each including the F6 as the only 35mm body on the list (the D700 and D3X are FX, the D7000 and D300s are DX). -Adam On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 1:35 PM, eckinator eckina...@gmail.com wrote: Hahahahaaa... did you know that the Nikon F6 is an APS-C digital? Quote: This is an FX lens, and works especially well with on FX, 35mm and DX Nikons like the D7000, D700, D3X, D300s and F6 2010/11/17 Miserere miser...@gmail.com: Well, in a roundabout way... http://kenrockwell.com/tokina/100mm-f28.htm [dons flame suit for mentioning the unmentionable name] —M. \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Ken Rockwell LOVES the Pentax DFA 100mm f/2.8 macro!!!
I know. I deliberately misread it in the way his grammar was open to. 2010/11/18 Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca: If you read that again, you'll note he mentions DX (APS-C), FX (FF 35mm Digital) and 35mm (35mm film) and then lists exampls of each including the F6 as the only 35mm body on the list (the D700 and D3X are FX, the D7000 and D300s are DX). -Adam On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 1:35 PM, eckinator eckina...@gmail.com wrote: Hahahahaaa... did you know that the Nikon F6 is an APS-C digital? Quote: This is an FX lens, and works especially well with on FX, 35mm and DX Nikons like the D7000, D700, D3X, D300s and F6 2010/11/17 Miserere miser...@gmail.com: Well, in a roundabout way... http://kenrockwell.com/tokina/100mm-f28.htm [dons flame suit for mentioning the unmentionable name] —M. \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Ken Rockwell LOVES the Pentax DFA 100mm f/2.8 macro!!!
Plus it is a dead giveaway of Kennyboy's technobla affinity because hello? what other Nikon SLR form factors are there? it works especially well on those but it is known to perform like crap on a Coolpix? come on... 2010/11/18 Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca: If you read that again, you'll note he mentions DX (APS-C), FX (FF 35mm Digital) and 35mm (35mm film) and then lists exampls of each including the F6 as the only 35mm body on the list (the D700 and D3X are FX, the D7000 and D300s are DX). -Adam On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 1:35 PM, eckinator eckina...@gmail.com wrote: Hahahahaaa... did you know that the Nikon F6 is an APS-C digital? Quote: This is an FX lens, and works especially well with on FX, 35mm and DX Nikons like the D7000, D700, D3X, D300s and F6 2010/11/17 Miserere miser...@gmail.com: Well, in a roundabout way... http://kenrockwell.com/tokina/100mm-f28.htm [dons flame suit for mentioning the unmentionable name] —M. \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
