Re: Lens rear caps - Pentax vs. non-Pentax (Question)

2011-01-18 Thread P. J. Alling

On 1/18/2011 1:49 AM, David Mann wrote:

On Jan 18, 2011, at 9:46 AM, John Graves wrote:


In the FWIW department, Leica bayonet caps go on any which way.  It is not a 
REQUIREMENT that the Leica name be oriented correctly.

But fellow Leicaphiles WILL notice.

A bit like the correct way to position a tyre on a bicycle.  If it has a logo 
or label on it, position it over the valve.  Makes it slightly easier to find the valve, 
and bike snobs will see that you value good workmanship.

Dave



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Lens rear caps - Pentax vs. non-Pentax (Question)

2011-01-17 Thread Igor Roshchin


The rear lens cups for Pentax and Tokina lenses are made so that 
can be attached in all three angular orientations (corresponding to
the three tabs).
I have a Tamron lens (70-300) that has a cap that is polarized,
and can only be attached in one position. Just recently I discovered
that several Sigma lenses come with the same sort of rear caps.

So, the question is why do they polarize the cap? It makes
it so much more inconvenient to put the cap on with one hand...

Any insights?

Thanks,

Igor



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Re: Lens rear caps - Pentax vs. non-Pentax (Question)

2011-01-17 Thread Charles Robinson
On Jan 17, 2011, at 13:59, Igor Roshchin wrote:

 
 
 The rear lens cups for Pentax and Tokina lenses are made so that 
 can be attached in all three angular orientations (corresponding to
 the three tabs).
 I have a Tamron lens (70-300) that has a cap that is polarized,
 and can only be attached in one position. Just recently I discovered
 that several Sigma lenses come with the same sort of rear caps.
 
 So, the question is why do they polarize the cap? It makes
 it so much more inconvenient to put the cap on with one hand...
 

Yes, I have an official Tamron rear cap with this defect.

I have put a big bright white line on the bottom of the cap which I can use to 
line up visually with the red dot.  It helps, but is still a pain in the rear!

I have NO insight as to why they do this.

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RE: Lens rear caps - Pentax vs. non-Pentax (Question)

2011-01-17 Thread John Celio
 So, the question is why do they polarize the cap? It makes
 it so much more inconvenient to put the cap on with one hand...
 

 I have NO insight as to why they do this.


I'd bet it's a patent issue of some sort, but I don't know either.

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Re: Lens rear caps - Pentax vs. non-Pentax (Question)

2011-01-17 Thread John Graves
In the FWIW department, Leica bayonet caps go on any which way.  It is 
not a REQUIREMENT that the Leica name be oriented correctly. Front caps 
just snap into the lens.

John Graves
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John Celio wrote:

So, the question is why do they polarize the cap? It makes
it so much more inconvenient to put the cap on with one hand...


I have NO insight as to why they do this.



I'd bet it's a patent issue of some sort, but I don't know either.

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Re: Lens rear caps - Pentax vs. non-Pentax (Question)

2011-01-17 Thread Brian Walters
On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 14:59 -0500, Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org wrote:
 
 
 The rear lens cups for Pentax and Tokina lenses are made so that 
 can be attached in all three angular orientations (corresponding to
 the three tabs).
 I have a Tamron lens (70-300) that has a cap that is polarized,
 and can only be attached in one position. Just recently I discovered
 that several Sigma lenses come with the same sort of rear caps.
 
 So, the question is why do they polarize the cap? It makes
 it so much more inconvenient to put the cap on with one hand...
 
 Any insights?
 


I don't know about the Tamrons but I have a couple of Sigma caps that
are designed to fit both the Pentax KPA and Sigma SA mounts.  There's a
mark on the cap to indicate where you should line up the cap for each
mount, so they will only attach in the one location (unless you modify
the cap by cutting off some of the plastic tabs).  Maybe the Tamron caps
are also designed for two different mounts. 



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Re: Lens rear caps - Pentax vs. non-Pentax (Question)

2011-01-17 Thread Dario Bonazza

Igor Roshchin


The rear lens cups for Pentax and Tokina lenses are made so that
can be attached in all three angular orientations (corresponding to
the three tabs).
I have a Tamron lens (70-300) that has a cap that is polarized,
and can only be attached in one position. Just recently I discovered
that several Sigma lenses come with the same sort of rear caps.

So, the question is why do they polarize the cap? It makes
it so much more inconvenient to put the cap on with one hand...

Any insights?


On the rear cap department, Pentax is still better than Sigma  Tamron. As a 
result, as soon as I buy one of those lenses (bought two Sigmas over the 
last years) I replace the odd rear cap with a Pentax or generic (unmarked) 
one. That fixes the problem once and forever. Continuing struggling with a 
polarized cap is just nonsense to me, whichever their reason for doing that.


Dario 



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RE: Lens rear caps - Pentax vs. non-Pentax (Question)

2011-01-17 Thread John Sessoms

From: Igor Roshchin

The rear lens cups for Pentax and Tokina lenses are made so that
can be attached in all three angular orientations (corresponding to
the three tabs).
I have a Tamron lens (70-300) that has a cap that is polarized,
and can only be attached in one position. Just recently I discovered
that several Sigma lenses come with the same sort of rear caps.

So, the question is why do they polarize the cap? It makes
it so much more inconvenient to put the cap on with one hand...

Any insights?



With the Sigma lenses it's because Sigma uses a K-mount bayonet that's 
rotated 120 deg for their own lens mount. I don't know why the 
polarized rear lens cap matters, because standard Pentax rear lens 
caps fit Pentax mount Sigma lenses.


But, I don't know if Pentax rear caps would fit Sigma mount lenses, 
because I don't have any Sigma mount lenses.


Do the polarized Tamron caps indicate another position for another 
brand's mount? I've got one Tamron lens, so I've probably got a Tamron 
rear lens cap around somewhere, but I expect it's relegated to my junk 
drawer back in Raleigh. I'm trying to replace all my rear lens caps with 
a specific Pentax rear lens cap.


Pentax made a rear lens cap that looks like a hat with a brim and those 
are the best fitting rear lens caps I've ever found for Pentax K-mount 
lenses, whoever the manufacturer is.


http://preview.tinyurl.com/4m8ulxb

They don't seem to jar loose like other rear lens caps do. Only problem 
is it's kind of expensive to replace all of your rear lens caps with the 
good ones and I haven't quite managed to afford it yet.


It's another one of those things I always look for whenever I find a 
still operating independent camera store - do they have old Pentax rear 
lens caps stashed away?


I've been able to get them 3 for $10 that way instead of paying $11.00 
apiece for them.



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Re: Lens rear caps - Pentax vs. non-Pentax (Question)

2011-01-17 Thread eckinator
2011/1/17 John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com:

 Pentax made a rear lens cap that looks like a hat with a brim and those are
 the best fitting rear lens caps I've ever found for Pentax K-mount lenses,
 whoever the manufacturer is.

 http://preview.tinyurl.com/4m8ulxb

Glad I'm not the only one with an Asahi/Pentax rear cap habit =)
Cheers
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Re: Lens rear caps - Pentax vs. non-Pentax (Question)

2011-01-17 Thread Miserere
On 17 January 2011 14:59, Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org wrote:


 The rear lens cups for Pentax and Tokina lenses are made so that
 can be attached in all three angular orientations (corresponding to
 the three tabs).
 I have a Tamron lens (70-300) that has a cap that is polarized,
 and can only be attached in one position. Just recently I discovered
 that several Sigma lenses come with the same sort of rear caps.

 So, the question is why do they polarize the cap? It makes
 it so much more inconvenient to put the cap on with one hand...

 Any insights?

 Thanks,

 Igor

Enjoying the 24mm then? Heh he heh  :-)

I'll say one thing for Sigma and Tamron caps: They're annoying, but
they lock up damn well. I've bought 3rd party rear caps that won't
latch on to Sigma lenses (but work OK on Pentax branded ones), so
there's a 1/4mm difference in there somewhere that annoys the hell out
of me. In the end, I just use Sigma caps for my Sigma lenses and curse
while putting them on.


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Re: Lens rear caps - Pentax vs. non-Pentax (Question)

2011-01-17 Thread David Mann
On Jan 18, 2011, at 9:46 AM, John Graves wrote:

 In the FWIW department, Leica bayonet caps go on any which way.  It is not a 
 REQUIREMENT that the Leica name be oriented correctly.

But fellow Leicaphiles WILL notice.

A bit like the correct way to position a tyre on a bicycle.  If it has a logo 
or label on it, position it over the valve.  Makes it slightly easier to find 
the valve, and bike snobs will see that you value good workmanship.

Dave


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