Re: Media Photogs iPhone Users

2011-07-16 Thread Rick Womer
An excellent rule, for someone your size!

Rick

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 always give way
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Media Photogs iPhone Users

2011-07-15 Thread Christine Aguila
FYI: 

http://newsblogs.chicagotribune.com/assignment-chicago/2011/07/hey-you-with-the-iphone.html

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Re: Media Photogs iPhone Users

2011-07-15 Thread Cotty
On 15/7/11, Christine Aguila, discombobulated, unleashed:

FYI:


http://newsblogs.chicagotribune.com/assignment-chicago/2011/07/hey-you-
with-the-iphone.html

V interesting, ta. I kind of go by the rule of the sea - always give way
to bigger boats. In those situations I get people glancing off me,
trying to talk to me, sometimes shouting at me but I'm in my own little
world with one eye closed - hey leave me alone, I'm watching TV :)


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Re: Media Photogs iPhone Users

2011-07-15 Thread P. J. Alling
My opinion is that if the Pro set up in a position to get himself aced 
by an amateur, he isn't much of a pro.  The attitude of entitlement 
reflected by both the author and the, and I can't stress this enough, 
a**hole, who berated the guy with the iPhone is one of the reasons 
that Newspapers are dying.  News photography is hard, if you can't 
produce images when needed you don't deserve the job.  If I was the 
a**hole's editor I;d be looking for the guy who got the picture to buy 
it from him, and maybe offer him a job.


Finally where cell phone guy, though in truth the headline lies, 
slinks off, Ultimately, it was clear he didn't really need the 
pictures.  got his shot. Maybe he just didn't think he needed to stick 
around to be berated afterwords.


Photographers are not a protected class, nor should they be, if they 
can't do their jobs they should look for another.


The author keeps stressing that he's not being condescending, yet it 
drips off of every word.


Sorry for mixing the Ironic quotes, with actual quotes but in this case 
is there really any difference.



On 7/15/2011 4:07 AM, Christine Aguila wrote:

FYI:

http://newsblogs.chicagotribune.com/assignment-chicago/2011/07/hey-you-with-the-iphone.html




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Re: Media Photogs iPhone Users

2011-07-15 Thread Charles Robinson
On Jul 15, 2011, at 9:17, P. J. Alling wrote:
 
 Finally where cell phone guy, though in truth the headline lies, slinks 
 off, Ultimately, it was clear he didn't really need the pictures.  got his 
 shot. Maybe he just didn't think he needed to stick around to be berated 
 afterwords.
 

That's what I was thinking, too, when I read that article.
 
 The author keeps stressing that he's not being condescending, yet it drips 
 off of every word.
 

Again, a +1 from me.

 
 http://newsblogs.chicagotribune.com/assignment-chicago/2011/07/hey-you-with-the-iphone.html
 

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Re: Media Photogs iPhone Users

2011-07-15 Thread John Francis
On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 09:22:18AM -0500, Charles Robinson wrote:
 On Jul 15, 2011, at 9:17, P. J. Alling wrote:
  
  Finally where cell phone guy, though in truth the headline lies, slinks 
  off, Ultimately, it was clear he didn't really need the pictures.  got 
  his shot. Maybe he just didn't think he needed to stick around to be 
  berated afterwords.
  
 
 That's what I was thinking, too, when I read that article.
  
  The author keeps stressing that he's not being condescending, yet it drips 
  off of every word.
  
 
 Again, a +1 from me.


The article can be summed up in four words: sometimes, people are 
inconsiderate.

This isn't news.

And in my experience, the general public are no better (and no worse) then those
who are being paid to provide pictures.

I've worked on both sides of the (literal) fence.  While shootimg from a public
area can be challenging for exactly the reasons detailed in the article - you
can't rely on the folks in front of you staying in their seats and/or keeping
their arms out of your view - I've also had people who've been staking out a
prime spot for hours shuffle up to let me get close to the rail for a better
viewpoint. In counterpoint, I've had the same problems when shooting from the
areas restricted to those with media passes - somebody paid to get the shot
can often forget that there are other people there with the same intentions,
or just assume that their needs outweigh those of everybody else.

We can't have a free-for-all, of course - sometimes it's necessary to limit
the number of photographers in a dangerous area (in my case, trackside at a
motorsports event).  But if there isn't an area set aside for media coverage
you just have to work with what you can find, warts and all.


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Re: Media Photogs iPhone Users

2011-07-15 Thread Bob Sullivan
On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 12:15 PM, John Francis jo...@panix.com wrote:
 The article can be summed up in four words: sometimes, people are 
 inconsiderate.

 and

Some people think they are entitled

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Re: Media Photogs iPhone Users

2011-07-15 Thread Ken Waller


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On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 12:15 PM, John Francis jo...@panix.com wrote:
The article can be summed up in four words: sometimes, people are 
inconsiderate.


and

Some people think they are entitled


Oh, you mean our politicians ?



Regards,  Bob S.



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Re: Media Photogs iPhone Users

2011-07-15 Thread Bob Sullivan
If our politicians don't get on with a debt ceiling compromise,
I'll actively work to recall them.
Regards,  Bob S.

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 - Original Message - From: Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com

 Subject: Re: Media Photogs  iPhone Users


 On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 12:15 PM, John Francis jo...@panix.com wrote:

 The article can be summed up in four words: sometimes, people are
 inconsiderate.

 and

 Some people think they are entitled

 Oh, you mean our politicians ?


 Regards,  Bob S.


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Re: Media Photogs iPhone Users

2011-07-15 Thread John Sessoms

From: Bob Sullivan

On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 12:15 PM, John Francis jo...@panix.com wrote:

The article can be summed up in four words: sometimes, people are 
inconsiderate.

 and

Some people think they are entitled


What I took away from it was a suggestion to budding photo-journalists 
that they should not be assholes of either stripe.



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Re: Media Photogs iPhone Users

2011-07-15 Thread William Robb

On 15/07/2011 2:17 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

If our politicians don't get on with a debt ceiling compromise,
I'll actively work to recall them.


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