Re: More disappearing photos! Aaaargh!
Yeah, it's just that if two drives got corrupted at the same time, I'd wonder about the computer they're attached to. WHY did the drives get corrupted? Could the computer be doing something that's going to corrupt other drives? Even if it was one drive went bad several months ago and the other went bad this week, I'd still want to know the computer wasn't at fault. On 9/8/2022 3:15 PM, Rick Womer wrote: John, the problem appears to be with my hard drives, which got corrupted blocks at the same time. I plan to back up everything, use DiskUtility to reformat both drives, and then transfer my data back. A lot more fun than taking pictures, right? (Aaargh) Rick On Sep 7, 2022, at 6:02 PM, John Sessoms wrote: One reason I don't use Lightroom is because my initial experience with it had it trying to hide the catalog from me. I couldn't find the files after I first loaded them (among other problems). Can the computer find the files? Not using Lightroom; just the computer itself? Can you do the Backblaze backup using a different external drive? I may be teaching Grandma to suck eggs, but those are some simple diagnostic steps that can help you decide if the problem is with Lightroom, Backblaze, your external drives or your computer itself. FWIW, here on my Windoze PC I can view DNG files using Irfanview and FastStone Image Viewer, so if I suspected a bad card, I could check it out on this different computer (I have a separate computer I built for photography & editing). I think both of those programs are available for Apple/Mac, so if you need a way to check whether the images are still on the card ... On 9/6/2022 10:08 PM, Rick Womer wrote: It happened again. Yesterday I took the K-5 and 50-200 for a walk around the neighborhood. I took about 50 shots. As soon as I got home, I removed the card from the camera, put it into the reader, and loaded the photos into Lightroom. I ejected the card, but did not erase it. Before I went down to prepare and eat dinner I started a Time Machine backup to an external drive used only for that purpose; and when that was complete I launched a Backblaze backup. I worked on the photos in LR after dinner, and worked up 9 of them to be posted as PESOs. This evening, I went to post the PESOs. Lightroom now has a little box with an exclamation point in it for every single photo, and yesterday’s backups (which I watched until they were complete) are not visible either on my backup drive or in Backblaze. I’ve been using the same system since 2005, with no previous problems; and now it has screwed up twice in the past week, and 3 times in the last few months. Any thoughtful ideas will be much appreciated. Rick (who might take up basket-weaving instead of photography…) -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Vivere in aeternum aut mori conatur -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG antivirus software. www.avg.com -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Vivere in aeternum aut mori conatur -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG antivirus software. www.avg.com -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: More disappearing photos! Aaaargh!
John, the problem appears to be with my hard drives, which got corrupted blocks at the same time. I plan to back up everything, use DiskUtility to reformat both drives, and then transfer my data back. A lot more fun than taking pictures, right? (Aaargh) Rick > On Sep 7, 2022, at 6:02 PM, John Sessoms wrote: > > One reason I don't use Lightroom is because my initial experience with it had > it trying to hide the catalog from me. I couldn't find the files after I > first loaded them (among other problems). > > Can the computer find the files? Not using Lightroom; just the computer > itself? > > Can you do the Backblaze backup using a different external drive? > > I may be teaching Grandma to suck eggs, but those are some simple diagnostic > steps that can help you decide if the problem is with Lightroom, Backblaze, > your external drives or your computer itself. > > FWIW, here on my Windoze PC I can view DNG files using Irfanview and > FastStone Image Viewer, so if I suspected a bad card, I could check it out on > this different computer (I have a separate computer I built for photography & > editing). > > I think both of those programs are available for Apple/Mac, so if you need a > way to check whether the images are still on the card ... > > On 9/6/2022 10:08 PM, Rick Womer wrote: >> It happened again. >> Yesterday I took the K-5 and 50-200 for a walk around the neighborhood. I >> took about 50 shots. >> As soon as I got home, I removed the card from the camera, put it into the >> reader, and loaded the photos into Lightroom. >> I ejected the card, but did not erase it. Before I went down to prepare and >> eat dinner I started a Time Machine backup to an external drive used only >> for that purpose; and when that was complete I launched a Backblaze backup. >> I worked on the photos in LR after dinner, and worked up 9 of them to be >> posted as PESOs. >> This evening, I went to post the PESOs. Lightroom now has a little box with >> an exclamation point in it for every single photo, and yesterday’s backups >> (which I watched until they were complete) are not visible either on my >> backup drive or in Backblaze. >> I’ve been using the same system since 2005, with no previous problems; and >> now it has screwed up twice in the past week, and 3 times in the last few >> months. >> Any thoughtful ideas will be much appreciated. >> Rick >> (who might take up basket-weaving instead of photography…) >> -- >> %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > -- > Vivere in aeternum aut mori conatur > > -- > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG antivirus software. > www.avg.com > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: More disappearing photos! Aaaargh!
I won’t use Lightroom for similar reasons. I manually put my dng files in a labeled folder where it belongs and immediately back it up. I retrieve and organize files with Bridge. Idiot proof. Which I need. Paul > On Sep 7, 2022, at 6:02 PM, John Sessoms wrote: > > One reason I don't use Lightroom is because my initial experience with it > had it trying to hide the catalog from me. I couldn't find the files after I > first loaded them (among other problems). > > Can the computer find the files? Not using Lightroom; just the computer > itself? > > Can you do the Backblaze backup using a different external drive? > > I may be teaching Grandma to suck eggs, but those are some simple diagnostic > steps that can help you decide if the problem is with Lightroom, Backblaze, > your external drives or your computer itself. > > FWIW, here on my Windoze PC I can view DNG files using Irfanview and > FastStone Image Viewer, so if I suspected a bad card, I could check it out on > this different computer (I have a separate computer I built for photography & > editing). > > I think both of those programs are available for Apple/Mac, so if you need a > way to check whether the images are still on the card ... > >> On 9/6/2022 10:08 PM, Rick Womer wrote: >> It happened again. >> Yesterday I took the K-5 and 50-200 for a walk around the neighborhood. I >> took about 50 shots. >> As soon as I got home, I removed the card from the camera, put it into the >> reader, and loaded the photos into Lightroom. >> I ejected the card, but did not erase it. Before I went down to prepare and >> eat dinner I started a Time Machine backup to an external drive used only >> for that purpose; and when that was complete I launched a Backblaze backup. >> I worked on the photos in LR after dinner, and worked up 9 of them to be >> posted as PESOs. >> This evening, I went to post the PESOs. Lightroom now has a little box with >> an exclamation point in it for every single photo, and yesterday’s backups >> (which I watched until they were complete) are not visible either on my >> backup drive or in Backblaze. >> I’ve been using the same system since 2005, with no previous problems; and >> now it has screwed up twice in the past week, and 3 times in the last few >> months. >> Any thoughtful ideas will be much appreciated. >> Rick >> (who might take up basket-weaving instead of photography…) >> -- >> %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > -- > Vivere in aeternum aut mori conatur > > -- > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG antivirus software. > www.avg.com > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: More disappearing photos! Aaaargh!
I'd want to know WHY two hard disks crapped out at the same time before hooking a third drive to the computer. On 9/7/2022 9:54 AM, Rick Womer wrote: Thanks to those who replied. Alas, the DNGs no longer exist where either LR or Spotlight can find them. I unmounted both external drives and ran Disk Utility. Both have problems. The message for the primary (Toshiba) drive is "OWC Toshiba: "The partition map needs to be repaired because there's a problem with the EFI system partition's file system : (-69766)”. The secondary (WD) drive gets the report "OWC Toshiba: "The partition map needs to be repaired because there's a problem with the EFI system partition's file system : (-69766). Western Digital: Container disk okay; Container disk 3 "Storage system verify or repair failed :(-69716) Sheesh, both hard drives crap out at the same time. I had no idea that Backblaze would fail to back up files when I selected “Back up now”. What now? I have another unused (somewhat creaky) hard drive. Do I copy all the files to it, and reformat the other two? Rick On Sep 7, 2022, at 2:11 AM, Toine wrote: On Wed, 7 Sept 2022 at 06:54, Larry Colen wrote: On Sep 6, 2022, at 7:08 PM, Rick Womer wrote: It happened again. Yesterday I took the K-5 and 50-200 for a walk around the neighborhood. I took about 50 shots. As soon as I got home, I removed the card from the camera, put it into the reader, and loaded the photos into Lightroom. I ejected the card, but did not erase it. Before I went down to prepare and eat dinner I started a Time Machine backup to an external drive used only for that purpose; and when that was complete I launched a Backblaze backup. I worked on the photos in LR after dinner, and worked up 9 of them to be posted as PESOs. This evening, I went to post the PESOs. Lightroom now has a little box with an exclamation point in it for every single photo, and yesterday’s backups (which I watched until they were complete) are not visible either on my backup drive or in Backblaze. I’ve been using the same system since 2005, with no previous problems; and now it has screwed up twice in the past week, and 3 times in the last few months. Any thoughtful ideas will be much appreciated. Are they still on the card? Have you searched your harddrive for any of the specific files? When you run the lightroom “find all missing files” function, what happens? Are more files missing? Is there any chance the drive they were copied to got unplugged? When I read files into lightroom, I have it automatically make a short term backup to a scratch disk. Every few months I’ll go through and clean that up, after I’ve made my three backups. Rick (who might take up basket-weaving instead of photography…) -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Vivere in aeternum aut mori conatur -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG antivirus software. www.avg.com -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: More disappearing photos! Aaaargh!
One reason I don't use Lightroom is because my initial experience with it had it trying to hide the catalog from me. I couldn't find the files after I first loaded them (among other problems). Can the computer find the files? Not using Lightroom; just the computer itself? Can you do the Backblaze backup using a different external drive? I may be teaching Grandma to suck eggs, but those are some simple diagnostic steps that can help you decide if the problem is with Lightroom, Backblaze, your external drives or your computer itself. FWIW, here on my Windoze PC I can view DNG files using Irfanview and FastStone Image Viewer, so if I suspected a bad card, I could check it out on this different computer (I have a separate computer I built for photography & editing). I think both of those programs are available for Apple/Mac, so if you need a way to check whether the images are still on the card ... On 9/6/2022 10:08 PM, Rick Womer wrote: It happened again. Yesterday I took the K-5 and 50-200 for a walk around the neighborhood. I took about 50 shots. As soon as I got home, I removed the card from the camera, put it into the reader, and loaded the photos into Lightroom. I ejected the card, but did not erase it. Before I went down to prepare and eat dinner I started a Time Machine backup to an external drive used only for that purpose; and when that was complete I launched a Backblaze backup. I worked on the photos in LR after dinner, and worked up 9 of them to be posted as PESOs. This evening, I went to post the PESOs. Lightroom now has a little box with an exclamation point in it for every single photo, and yesterday’s backups (which I watched until they were complete) are not visible either on my backup drive or in Backblaze. I’ve been using the same system since 2005, with no previous problems; and now it has screwed up twice in the past week, and 3 times in the last few months. Any thoughtful ideas will be much appreciated. Rick (who might take up basket-weaving instead of photography…) -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Vivere in aeternum aut mori conatur -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG antivirus software. www.avg.com -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: More disappearing photos! Aaaargh!
Thanks to those who replied. Alas, the DNGs no longer exist where either LR or Spotlight can find them. I unmounted both external drives and ran Disk Utility. Both have problems. The message for the primary (Toshiba) drive is "OWC Toshiba: "The partition map needs to be repaired because there's a problem with the EFI system partition's file system : (-69766)”. The secondary (WD) drive gets the report "OWC Toshiba: "The partition map needs to be repaired because there's a problem with the EFI system partition's file system : (-69766). Western Digital: Container disk okay; Container disk 3 "Storage system verify or repair failed :(-69716) Sheesh, both hard drives crap out at the same time. I had no idea that Backblaze would fail to back up files when I selected “Back up now”. What now? I have another unused (somewhat creaky) hard drive. Do I copy all the files to it, and reformat the other two? Rick > On Sep 7, 2022, at 2:11 AM, Toine wrote: > > > > On Wed, 7 Sept 2022 at 06:54, Larry Colen wrote: > >> >> >>> On Sep 6, 2022, at 7:08 PM, Rick Womer wrote: >>> >>> It happened again. >>> >>> Yesterday I took the K-5 and 50-200 for a walk around the neighborhood. >> I took about 50 shots. >>> >>> As soon as I got home, I removed the card from the camera, put it into >> the reader, and loaded the photos into Lightroom. >>> >>> I ejected the card, but did not erase it. Before I went down to prepare >> and eat dinner I started a Time Machine backup to an external drive used >> only for that purpose; and when that was complete I launched a Backblaze >> backup. >>> >>> I worked on the photos in LR after dinner, and worked up 9 of them to be >> posted as PESOs. >>> >>> This evening, I went to post the PESOs. Lightroom now has a little box >> with an exclamation point in it for every single photo, and yesterday’s >> backups (which I watched until they were complete) are not visible either >> on my backup drive or in Backblaze. >>> >>> I’ve been using the same system since 2005, with no previous problems; >> and now it has screwed up twice in the past week, and 3 times in the last >> few months. >>> >>> Any thoughtful ideas will be much appreciated. >> >> Are they still on the card? >> >> Have you searched your harddrive for any of the specific files? >> >> When you run the lightroom “find all missing files” function, what >> happens? Are more files missing? >> >> Is there any chance the drive they were copied to got unplugged? >> >> When I read files into lightroom, I have it automatically make a short >> term backup to a scratch disk. Every few months I’ll go through and clean >> that up, after I’ve made my three backups. >> >> >> >>> >>> Rick >>> >>> (who might take up basket-weaving instead of photography…) >>> -- >>> %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. >>> >> >> -- >> Larry Colen >> l...@red4est.com >> >> >> -- >> %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: More disappearing photos! Aaaargh!
Installing some kind of S.M.A.R.T. HDD monitoring tool ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S.M.A.R.T.) could help detect HDD's ready to fail. That said I had several failed HDD's and SMART didn't help. In fact my oldest running HDD's have a red flag according to SMART. Backup is the only solution. I rely on Goodsync for replicating files across 2 or more HDD's, Amazon Photos and Onedrive to sync it to the cloud and backblaze to create another backup. Backblaze is great but it takes its time before a file is put in the backup queue. Amazon Photos was horrible and unreliable the last years, they apparently changed something and now it's working as expected. I check every now and then if files are really backuped to onedrive, amazon and backblaze by checking their webversions of the tools. On Wed, 7 Sept 2022 at 08:40, mike wilson wrote: > > > On 07/09/2022 03:08 Rick Womer wrote: > > (who might take up basket-weaving instead of photography…) > > Tell me about it. After losing four years' work during a backup > procedure, I have been "off" photography for quite a while. Interest is > slowly reviving but I'm seriously considering going back to film. > > My deepest sympathies. > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: More disappearing photos! Aaaargh!
I would try to locate the files on (one of) the disc(s). The exclamation sign is LR telling it can't find the files. Most likely you copied the files to an internal or external drive which disconnected or failed. The system disc must be up and running because LR is running On Wed, 7 Sept 2022 at 06:54, Larry Colen wrote: > > > > On Sep 6, 2022, at 7:08 PM, Rick Womer wrote: > > > > It happened again. > > > > Yesterday I took the K-5 and 50-200 for a walk around the neighborhood. > I took about 50 shots. > > > > As soon as I got home, I removed the card from the camera, put it into > the reader, and loaded the photos into Lightroom. > > > > I ejected the card, but did not erase it. Before I went down to prepare > and eat dinner I started a Time Machine backup to an external drive used > only for that purpose; and when that was complete I launched a Backblaze > backup. > > > > I worked on the photos in LR after dinner, and worked up 9 of them to be > posted as PESOs. > > > > This evening, I went to post the PESOs. Lightroom now has a little box > with an exclamation point in it for every single photo, and yesterday’s > backups (which I watched until they were complete) are not visible either > on my backup drive or in Backblaze. > > > > I’ve been using the same system since 2005, with no previous problems; > and now it has screwed up twice in the past week, and 3 times in the last > few months. > > > > Any thoughtful ideas will be much appreciated. > > Are they still on the card? > > Have you searched your harddrive for any of the specific files? > > When you run the lightroom “find all missing files” function, what > happens? Are more files missing? > > Is there any chance the drive they were copied to got unplugged? > > When I read files into lightroom, I have it automatically make a short > term backup to a scratch disk. Every few months I’ll go through and clean > that up, after I’ve made my three backups. > > > > > > > Rick > > > > (who might take up basket-weaving instead of photography…) > > -- > > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > > > > -- > Larry Colen > l...@red4est.com > > > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: More disappearing photos! Aaaargh!
> On Sep 6, 2022, at 7:08 PM, Rick Womer wrote: > > It happened again. > > Yesterday I took the K-5 and 50-200 for a walk around the neighborhood. I > took about 50 shots. > > As soon as I got home, I removed the card from the camera, put it into the > reader, and loaded the photos into Lightroom. > > I ejected the card, but did not erase it. Before I went down to prepare and > eat dinner I started a Time Machine backup to an external drive used only for > that purpose; and when that was complete I launched a Backblaze backup. > > I worked on the photos in LR after dinner, and worked up 9 of them to be > posted as PESOs. > > This evening, I went to post the PESOs. Lightroom now has a little box with > an exclamation point in it for every single photo, and yesterday’s backups > (which I watched until they were complete) are not visible either on my > backup drive or in Backblaze. > > I’ve been using the same system since 2005, with no previous problems; and > now it has screwed up twice in the past week, and 3 times in the last few > months. > > Any thoughtful ideas will be much appreciated. Are they still on the card? Have you searched your harddrive for any of the specific files? When you run the lightroom “find all missing files” function, what happens? Are more files missing? Is there any chance the drive they were copied to got unplugged? When I read files into lightroom, I have it automatically make a short term backup to a scratch disk. Every few months I’ll go through and clean that up, after I’ve made my three backups. > > Rick > > (who might take up basket-weaving instead of photography…) > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
More disappearing photos! Aaaargh!
It happened again. Yesterday I took the K-5 and 50-200 for a walk around the neighborhood. I took about 50 shots. As soon as I got home, I removed the card from the camera, put it into the reader, and loaded the photos into Lightroom. I ejected the card, but did not erase it. Before I went down to prepare and eat dinner I started a Time Machine backup to an external drive used only for that purpose; and when that was complete I launched a Backblaze backup. I worked on the photos in LR after dinner, and worked up 9 of them to be posted as PESOs. This evening, I went to post the PESOs. Lightroom now has a little box with an exclamation point in it for every single photo, and yesterday’s backups (which I watched until they were complete) are not visible either on my backup drive or in Backblaze. I’ve been using the same system since 2005, with no previous problems; and now it has screwed up twice in the past week, and 3 times in the last few months. Any thoughtful ideas will be much appreciated. Rick (who might take up basket-weaving instead of photography…) -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
