More infrared experimentation, clouds

2013-08-21 Thread Larry Colen
I don't know if anybody is actually interested in seeing my experimentation
as I learn how to use my IR converted camera.  If people actually care one
way or another, let me know and I'll either continue or stop posting links
to sets like this.

The clouds a couple of days ago looked quite interesting, so I tried
photographing them with the IR camera, both in full spectrum and with
the IR filter.  Since my filter is a 77mm and the 18-250 on the camera
had a 62mm thread, I was just holding it in front of the lens, hence
my finger in the lower right corner of a lot of the shots.

I was doing some pretty severe bracketing when I took the photos,
because the JPEG histograms are for shit when it comes to telling 
you if you're actually clipping on the sensor.
I tried a variety of processing techniques in lightroom on the shots
taken with the IR filter. Processing these photos is going to be
very situationally dependent. By definition, you are not going to get
anything that looks natural.
Since I snuck out into the parking lot in the afternoon at work to 
get these shots, I didn't spend the time I would have liked, experimenting
with the polarizer with and without the IR filter for the cloud photos.

I suspect the eventually, the ultimate technique would involve multiple
shots with both IR only and visible only filters on the camera, and then 
compositing them in post production.  Since I couldn't even play Mark 
Roberts in a high school play, I'll leave that tricky photoshop shit to 
others.

http://www.fluidr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157635169672192/

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Re: More infrared experimentation, clouds

2013-08-21 Thread Rick Womer
For less than $10 you could get a step-up ring and keep your finger out of the 
frame.

It looks to me as though the IR + full spectrum shots have a similar effect on 
the clouds that a yellow filter does in BW.

Rick


 
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I don't know if anybody is actually interested in seeing my experimentation
as I learn how to use my IR converted camera.  If people actually care one
way or another, let me know and I'll either continue or stop posting links
to sets like this.

The clouds a couple of days ago looked quite interesting, so I tried
photographing them with the IR camera, both in full spectrum and with
the IR filter.  Since my filter is a 77mm and the 18-250 on the camera
had a 62mm thread, I was just holding it in front of the lens, hence
my finger in the lower right corner of a lot of the shots.

I was doing some pretty severe bracketing when I took the photos,
because the JPEG histograms are for shit when it comes to telling 
you if you're actually clipping on the sensor.
I tried a variety of processing techniques in lightroom on the shots
taken with the IR filter. Processing these photos is going to be
very situationally dependent. By definition, you are not going to get
anything that looks natural.
Since I snuck out into the parking lot in the afternoon at work to 
get these shots, I didn't spend the time I would have liked, experimenting
with the polarizer with and without the IR filter for the cloud photos.

I suspect the eventually, the ultimate technique would involve multiple
shots with both IR only and visible only filters on the camera, and then 
compositing them in post production.  Since I couldn't even play Mark 
Roberts in a high school play, I'll leave that tricky photoshop shit to 
others.

http://www.fluidr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157635169672192/

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Re: More infrared experimentation, clouds

2013-08-21 Thread Zos Xavius
Keep posting! I'm very interested in your progress!

On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 9:19 AM, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote:
 For less than $10 you could get a step-up ring and keep your finger out of 
 the frame.

 It looks to me as though the IR + full spectrum shots have a similar effect 
 on the clouds that a yellow filter does in BW.

 Rick



 http://photo.net/photos/RickW


 - Original Message -
 From: Larry Colen l...@red4est.com
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 Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 3:53 AM
 Subject: More infrared experimentation, clouds

 I don't know if anybody is actually interested in seeing my experimentation
 as I learn how to use my IR converted camera.  If people actually care one
 way or another, let me know and I'll either continue or stop posting links
 to sets like this.

 The clouds a couple of days ago looked quite interesting, so I tried
 photographing them with the IR camera, both in full spectrum and with
 the IR filter.  Since my filter is a 77mm and the 18-250 on the camera
 had a 62mm thread, I was just holding it in front of the lens, hence
 my finger in the lower right corner of a lot of the shots.

 I was doing some pretty severe bracketing when I took the photos,
 because the JPEG histograms are for shit when it comes to telling
 you if you're actually clipping on the sensor.
 I tried a variety of processing techniques in lightroom on the shots
 taken with the IR filter. Processing these photos is going to be
 very situationally dependent. By definition, you are not going to get
 anything that looks natural.
 Since I snuck out into the parking lot in the afternoon at work to
 get these shots, I didn't spend the time I would have liked, experimenting
 with the polarizer with and without the IR filter for the cloud photos.

 I suspect the eventually, the ultimate technique would involve multiple
 shots with both IR only and visible only filters on the camera, and then
 compositing them in post production.  Since I couldn't even play Mark
 Roberts in a high school play, I'll leave that tricky photoshop shit to
 others.

 http://www.fluidr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157635169672192/

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Re: More infrared experimentation, clouds

2013-08-21 Thread Larry Colen
On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 10:18:55AM -0500, Don Guthrie wrote:
 Keep posting. What you do I won't have to if I ever convert my
 camera so thanks.

That was my goal in posting the sets of experimental photos, rather than
just pesos of the ones that actually worked the best.  
For what it's worth, my experimentation is ending up in one of these 
collections:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/collections/72157627107116082/

Mostly this one:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/collections/72157606110993706/

And somebody said that with the marque it was a jame the trees weren't 
blue instead of magenta so here's a slight tweak:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/9559693947/in/set-72157635074852031

 
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 I don't know if anybody is actually interested in seeing my experimentation
 as I learn how to use my IR converted camera.  If people actually care one
 way or another, let me know and I'll either continue or stop posting links
 to sets like this.
 
 The clouds a couple of days ago looked quite interesting, so I tried
 photographing them with the IR camera, both in full spectrum and with
 the IR filter.  Since my filter is a 77mm and the 18-250 on the camera
 had a 62mm thread, I was just holding it in front of the lens, hence
 my finger in the lower right corner of a lot of the shots.
 
 I was doing some pretty severe bracketing when I took the photos,
 because the JPEG histograms are for shit when it comes to telling
 you if you're actually clipping on the sensor.
 I tried a variety of processing techniques in lightroom on the shots
 taken with the IR filter. Processing these photos is going to be
 very situationally dependent. By definition, you are not going to get
 anything that looks natural.
 Since I snuck out into the parking lot in the afternoon at work to
 get these shots, I didn't spend the time I would have liked, experimenting
 with the polarizer with and without the IR filter for the cloud photos.
 
 I suspect the eventually, the ultimate technique would involve multiple
 shots with both IR only and visible only filters on the camera, and then
 compositing them in post production.  Since I couldn't even play Mark
 Roberts in a high school play, I'll leave that tricky photoshop shit to
 others.
 
 http://www.fluidr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157635169672192/
 
 -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc
 
 
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Re: More infrared experimentation, clouds

2013-08-21 Thread Larry Colen
On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 06:19:50AM -0700, Rick Womer wrote:
 For less than $10 you could get a step-up ring and keep your finger out of 
 the frame.

For even less than that, I could put the one I have in my camera bag.

 
 It looks to me as though the IR + full spectrum shots have a similar effect 
 on the clouds that a yellow filter does in BW.

Yes, but in color.  That was what I was hoping would happen.

 
 Rick
 
 
  
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 - Original Message -
 From: Larry Colen l...@red4est.com
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 Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 3:53 AM
 Subject: More infrared experimentation, clouds
 
 I don't know if anybody is actually interested in seeing my experimentation
 as I learn how to use my IR converted camera.  If people actually care one
 way or another, let me know and I'll either continue or stop posting links
 to sets like this.
 
 The clouds a couple of days ago looked quite interesting, so I tried
 photographing them with the IR camera, both in full spectrum and with
 the IR filter.  Since my filter is a 77mm and the 18-250 on the camera
 had a 62mm thread, I was just holding it in front of the lens, hence
 my finger in the lower right corner of a lot of the shots.
 
 I was doing some pretty severe bracketing when I took the photos,
 because the JPEG histograms are for shit when it comes to telling 
 you if you're actually clipping on the sensor.
 I tried a variety of processing techniques in lightroom on the shots
 taken with the IR filter. Processing these photos is going to be
 very situationally dependent. By definition, you are not going to get
 anything that looks natural.
 Since I snuck out into the parking lot in the afternoon at work to 
 get these shots, I didn't spend the time I would have liked, experimenting
 with the polarizer with and without the IR filter for the cloud photos.
 
 I suspect the eventually, the ultimate technique would involve multiple
 shots with both IR only and visible only filters on the camera, and then 
 compositing them in post production.  Since I couldn't even play Mark 
 Roberts in a high school play, I'll leave that tricky photoshop shit to 
 others.
 
 http://www.fluidr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157635169672192/
 
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