Re: Need help choosing a photo from 4
I prefer #1 for better subject isolation. The other 3 have too much clutter in the background. Maybe you could get something out of #4 after cropping a bit from left and blurring the background in PS. On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 10:04 PM, Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org wrote: Hi All, On the recent trip to Victoria, BC, there was a nice garden on the territory of the University of Victoria. And the timing was just right: it was blooming. For one type of flowers, I have problems choosing 1 (or 2?) photos from the bunch of 4: http://42graphy.org/misc/UVicFlowers-Choose/ So, I solicit help of the fellow PDMLers: Please, cast your votes for what is your 1st and 2nd favorite from these four (if any), and why (or why not). Thank you, Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Need help choosing a photo from 4
I agree with Ken’s picks and comments. cheers, Christine On May 29, 2014, at 3:50 PM, Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: Of the 4 I'd say the 4th is the best since the main subject is mostly in focus. The 3rd would be my second choice with slightly less of the main subject in focus. A drawback for me on all 4 is the busy background. It needs to be more out of focus. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org Subject: Need help choosing a photo from 4 Hi All, On the recent trip to Victoria, BC, there was a nice garden on the territory of the University of Victoria. And the timing was just right: it was blooming. For one type of flowers, I have problems choosing 1 (or 2?) photos from the bunch of 4: http://42graphy.org/misc/UVicFlowers-Choose/ So, I solicit help of the fellow PDMLers: Please, cast your votes for what is your 1st and 2nd favorite from these four (if any), and why (or why not). Thank you, Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Need help choosing a photo from 4
On 29 May 2014 21:49, Marco Alpert ma...@alpert.com wrote: Hi All, On the recent trip to Victoria, BC, there was a nice garden on the territory of the University of Victoria. And the timing was just right: it was blooming. For one type of flowers, I have problems choosing 1 (or 2?) photos from the bunch of 4: http://42graphy.org/misc/UVicFlowers-Choose/ So, I solicit help of the fellow PDMLers: Please, cast your votes for what is your 1st and 2nd favorite from these four (if any), and why (or why not). I prefer #4 because the subject is in fairly-good focus, and is more distinct from its neighbors in the background than in the other images. It might look a little better with a crop that is closer to square - just because the backgrounds to the left and right aren't really necessary. -Charles I'm with Charles. - Marco Me too. 4 with a crop. Chris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Need help choosing a photo from 4
Wow! What a large response to the work-in-progress. :-) Many thanks to all who looked and responded! The pluraty of the well explained opinions helped me seeing how different people see these images. Special thanks to J.C.O. for the nice idea of reframing. It is interesting that a group of mostly-non-photographers chose #3 hands down. In the end, I decided to use these two images: http://42graphy.org/galleries/2014-victoria-flowers/_IR07928.html http://42graphy.org/galleries/2014-victoria-flowers/_IR07931.html Igor Date: Thu, 29 May 2014 15:04:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Igor Roshchin Hi All, On the recent trip to Victoria, BC, there was a nice garden on the territory of the University of Victoria. And the timing was just right: it was blooming. For one type of flowers, I have problems choosing 1 (or 2?) photos from the bunch of 4: http://42graphy.org/misc/UVicFlowers-Choose/ So, I solicit help of the fellow PDMLers: Please, cast your votes for what is your 1st and 2nd favorite from these four (if any), and why (or why not). Thank you, Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Need help choosing a photo from 4
I really like that second one, it has a nice 3D effect. For the other photo I'd prefer to see more depth of field on the subject. I am fond of shallow DOF macros but they often require a bit of contortion to get the plane of focus in the right place. Cheers, Dave On May 31, 2014, at 7:01 am, Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org wrote: Wow! What a large response to the work-in-progress. :-) Many thanks to all who looked and responded! The pluraty of the well explained opinions helped me seeing how different people see these images. Special thanks to J.C.O. for the nice idea of reframing. It is interesting that a group of mostly-non-photographers chose #3 hands down. In the end, I decided to use these two images: http://42graphy.org/galleries/2014-victoria-flowers/_IR07928.html http://42graphy.org/galleries/2014-victoria-flowers/_IR07931.html Igor Date: Thu, 29 May 2014 15:04:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Igor Roshchin Hi All, On the recent trip to Victoria, BC, there was a nice garden on the territory of the University of Victoria. And the timing was just right: it was blooming. For one type of flowers, I have problems choosing 1 (or 2?) photos from the bunch of 4: http://42graphy.org/misc/UVicFlowers-Choose/ So, I solicit help of the fellow PDMLers: Please, cast your votes for what is your 1st and 2nd favorite from these four (if any), and why (or why not). Thank you, Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Need help choosing a photo from 4
Hi All, On the recent trip to Victoria, BC, there was a nice garden on the territory of the University of Victoria. And the timing was just right: it was blooming. For one type of flowers, I have problems choosing 1 (or 2?) photos from the bunch of 4: http://42graphy.org/misc/UVicFlowers-Choose/ So, I solicit help of the fellow PDMLers: Please, cast your votes for what is your 1st and 2nd favorite from these four (if any), and why (or why not). Thank you, Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Need help choosing a photo from 4
on 2014-05-29 13:04 Igor Roshchin wrote For one type of flowers, I have problems choosing 1 (or 2?) photos from the bunch of 4: http://42graphy.org/misc/UVicFlowers-Choose/ i'd prefer number 4, more so if the right quarter and the left eighth were cropped out number 3 would be next because it too is focused well, but the composition loses the subject against its companions a bit on both i'd try desaturating the background because it is overpoweringly vivid composing plant photos is a challenge that i've fully embraced for a few years without feeling even close to mastery -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Need help choosing a photo from 4
On 5/29/2014 3:04 PM, Igor Roshchin wrote: Hi All, On the recent trip to Victoria, BC, there was a nice garden on the territory of the University of Victoria. And the timing was just right: it was blooming. For one type of flowers, I have problems choosing 1 (or 2?) photos from the bunch of 4: http://42graphy.org/misc/UVicFlowers-Choose/ So, I solicit help of the fellow PDMLers: Please, cast your votes for what is your 1st and 2nd favorite from these four (if any), and why (or why not). Thank you, Igor They are all technically good but suffer from a composition problem, the main subject is centered. -- J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net -- -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Need help choosing a photo from 4
On May 29, 2014, at 14:04 , Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org wrote: Hi All, On the recent trip to Victoria, BC, there was a nice garden on the territory of the University of Victoria. And the timing was just right: it was blooming. For one type of flowers, I have problems choosing 1 (or 2?) photos from the bunch of 4: http://42graphy.org/misc/UVicFlowers-Choose/ So, I solicit help of the fellow PDMLers: Please, cast your votes for what is your 1st and 2nd favorite from these four (if any), and why (or why not). I prefer #4 because the subject is in fairly-good focus, and is more distinct from its neighbors in the background than in the other images. It might look a little better with a crop that is closer to square - just because the backgrounds to the left and right aren't really necessary. -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Need help choosing a photo from 4
Try #1 for the lack of clutter in the background. Regards, Bob S. On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 2:04 PM, Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org wrote: Hi All, On the recent trip to Victoria, BC, there was a nice garden on the territory of the University of Victoria. And the timing was just right: it was blooming. For one type of flowers, I have problems choosing 1 (or 2?) photos from the bunch of 4: http://42graphy.org/misc/UVicFlowers-Choose/ So, I solicit help of the fellow PDMLers: Please, cast your votes for what is your 1st and 2nd favorite from these four (if any), and why (or why not). Thank you, Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Need help choosing a photo from 4
Hi All, On the recent trip to Victoria, BC, there was a nice garden on the territory of the University of Victoria. And the timing was just right: it was blooming. For one type of flowers, I have problems choosing 1 (or 2?) photos from the bunch of 4: http://42graphy.org/misc/UVicFlowers-Choose/ So, I solicit help of the fellow PDMLers: Please, cast your votes for what is your 1st and 2nd favorite from these four (if any), and why (or why not). I prefer #4 because the subject is in fairly-good focus, and is more distinct from its neighbors in the background than in the other images. It might look a little better with a crop that is closer to square - just because the backgrounds to the left and right aren't really necessary. -Charles I'm with Charles. - Marco -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Need help choosing a photo from 4
Of the 4 I'd say the 4th is the best since the main subject is mostly in focus. The 3rd would be my second choice with slightly less of the main subject in focus. A drawback for me on all 4 is the busy background. It needs to be more out of focus. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org Subject: Need help choosing a photo from 4 Hi All, On the recent trip to Victoria, BC, there was a nice garden on the territory of the University of Victoria. And the timing was just right: it was blooming. For one type of flowers, I have problems choosing 1 (or 2?) photos from the bunch of 4: http://42graphy.org/misc/UVicFlowers-Choose/ So, I solicit help of the fellow PDMLers: Please, cast your votes for what is your 1st and 2nd favorite from these four (if any), and why (or why not). Thank you, Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Need help choosing a photo from 4
Choose no's 3 4, in that order. Slightly prefer their compositional balance. Jack - Original Message - From: Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org To: PDML PDML@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2014 12:04:07 PM Subject: Need help choosing a photo from 4 Hi All, On the recent trip to Victoria, BC, there was a nice garden on the territory of the University of Victoria. And the timing was just right: it was blooming. For one type of flowers, I have problems choosing 1 (or 2?) photos from the bunch of 4: http://42graphy.org/misc/UVicFlowers-Choose/ So, I solicit help of the fellow PDMLers: Please, cast your votes for what is your 1st and 2nd favorite from these four (if any), and why (or why not). Thank you, Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Need help choosing a photo from 4
On 5/29/2014 4:50 PM, Jack Davis wrote: Choose no's 3 4, in that order. Slightly prefer their compositional balance. Jack - Original Message - From: Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org To: PDML PDML@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2014 12:04:07 PM Subject: Need help choosing a photo from 4 Hi All, On the recent trip to Victoria, BC, there was a nice garden on the territory of the University of Victoria. And the timing was just right: it was blooming. For one type of flowers, I have problems choosing 1 (or 2?) photos from the bunch of 4: http://42graphy.org/misc/UVicFlowers-Choose/ So, I solicit help of the fellow PDMLers: Please, cast your votes for what is your 1st and 2nd favorite from these four (if any), and why (or why not). Thank you, Igor how about this crop based on #1 : http://www.jchriso.com/temp/flower052914.jpg jco -- J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net -- -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Need help choosing a photo from 4
I'd agree with Bob S - #1 stands out -p On 5/29/2014 3:41 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote: Try #1 for the lack of clutter in the background. Regards, Bob S. On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 2:04 PM, Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org wrote: Hi All, On the recent trip to Victoria, BC, there was a nice garden on the territory of the University of Victoria. And the timing was just right: it was blooming. For one type of flowers, I have problems choosing 1 (or 2?) photos from the bunch of 4: http://42graphy.org/misc/UVicFlowers-Choose/ So, I solicit help of the fellow PDMLers: Please, cast your votes for what is your 1st and 2nd favorite from these four (if any), and why (or why not). Thank you, Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Being old doesn't seem so old now that I'm old. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Need help choosing a photo from 4
Quoting Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org: Hi All, On the recent trip to Victoria, BC, there was a nice garden on the territory of the University of Victoria. And the timing was just right: it was blooming. For one type of flowers, I have problems choosing 1 (or 2?) photos from the bunch of 4: http://42graphy.org/misc/UVicFlowers-Choose/ So, I solicit help of the fellow PDMLers: Please, cast your votes for what is your 1st and 2nd favorite from these four (if any), and why (or why not). My first pick is No. 4, mainly because it is better isolated from the background than the others. Next would be No. 1 -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Need help choosing a photo from 4
#1 for me - by a lot ann On 5/29/2014 17:25, Don Guthrie wrote: 14 pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote: Message: 4 Date: Thu, 29 May 2014 15:04:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Igor Roshchins...@komkon.org To:PDML@pdml.net Subject: Need help choosing a photo from 4 Message-ID:201405291904.s4tj47fr081...@trantor.komkon.org Hi All, On the recent trip to Victoria, BC, there was a nice garden on the territory of the University of Victoria. And the timing was just right: it was blooming. For one type of flowers, I have problems choosing 1 (or 2?) photos from the bunch of 4: http://42graphy.org/misc/UVicFlowers-Choose/ So, I solicit help of the fellow PDMLers: Please, cast your votes for what is your 1st and 2nd favorite from these four (if any), and why (or why not). Thank you, Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Need help choosing a photo from 4
J.C. O’Connell wrote on Thu, 29 May 2014 14:03:18 -0700: how about this crop based on #1 : http://www.jchriso.com/temp/flower052914.jpg I like this crop - it eliminates some of the background clutter and what remains helps the balance of the composition. Good eye! Regards, Jim -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Need help choosing a photo from 4
in #4 the background is way too cluttered. As Ken suggested, out of focus would be better. In #3, it is either too much or too little. Are you trying to capture a group of flowers? Then you have too little depth of field, a bunch of out of focus flowery things hanging around the central blossom instead of a cluster of discernible blossoms. Are you shooting for the single blossom? You still have a bunch of out of focus flowery things hanging around the central blossom. This could be salvaged by cropping down to about the right central 10% of the image that shows the central detail on the central blossom. In #2 it is a focus problem again - the flower on the left is too out of focus to be in the shot but too in focus to be ignored. #1 seems to be the best compromise though the main subject is moving and/or a bit out of focus itself. But I think I would most prefer a tight crop on #3. stan On May 29, 2014, at 3:04 PM, Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org wrote: Hi All, On the recent trip to Victoria, BC, there was a nice garden on the territory of the University of Victoria. And the timing was just right: it was blooming. For one type of flowers, I have problems choosing 1 (or 2?) photos from the bunch of 4: http://42graphy.org/misc/UVicFlowers-Choose/ So, I solicit help of the fellow PDMLers: Please, cast your votes for what is your 1st and 2nd favorite from these four (if any), and why (or why not). Thank you, Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
