Re: New camera technology touted at TOP
For the people who may be interested in plenoptic technology, some months ago a group of Spanish investigators from the Canary Islands showed a device which can turn any digital camera with interchangeable lenses into a plenoptic camera. You can read something about it here: http://www.quesabesde.com/noticias/camara-plenoptica-3d-ull-universidad-la-laguna_cafadis,1_7561 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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From: Carlos R. For the people who may be interested in plenoptic technology, some months ago a group of Spanish investigators from the Canary Islands showed a device which can turn any digital camera with interchangeable lenses into a plenoptic camera. You can read something about it here: http://www.quesabesde.com/noticias/camara-plenoptica-3d-ull-universidad-la-laguna_cafadis,1_7561 I don't suppose there's an english language page for this? It's a little too much for Babel Fish. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1382 / Virus Database: 1513/3721 - Release Date: 06/23/11 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 01:58:59PM -0400, John Sessoms wrote: From: Carlos R. For the people who may be interested in plenoptic technology, some months ago a group of Spanish investigators from the Canary Islands showed a device which can turn any digital camera with interchangeable lenses into a plenoptic camera. You can read something about it here: http://www.quesabesde.com/noticias/camara-plenoptica-3d-ull-universidad-la-laguna_cafadis,1_7561 I don't suppose there's an english language page for this? It's a little too much for Babel Fish. Google Translate works just fine - that's what I used to read it. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Maybe someone else has posted this, but I have a bit more than 8k messages from the PDML in my inbox, which I haven't even begun to wade trough, so I've decided to share. Mike Johnston seems to think this is the future, but a little bit of research on the technology left me somewhat underwhelmed, perhaps because I was expecting some kind or real breakthrough, maybe having to do do with holographic principals, as opposed to massively processing different image planes. Still it's an interesting concept. http://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/the_online_photographer/2011/06/the-next-big-thing.html -- Where's the Kaboom? There was supposed to be an Earth-shattering Kaboom! --Marvin the Martian. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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The plenoptic concept is making the rounds today. At least 14 people have sent me notes about it. I've been tracking this technology from the first discussions and talks about it in 2006ish, IIRC. The idea is simple: Instead of capturing only spatial information from the incoming light, capture the vector information as well. That allows for in-process focus adjustment and more sophisticated image correction processing. It's not 3D or holography, it's more information with which to focus and render the image. The downside of this is all technical. You generally need about 10x as many photo receptors to produce a given number of finished image pixels ... so a 12 Mpixel image relies on having somewhere around 120-144 million photosites behind them to capture both spatial and vector data. Similarly, the image processing and data handling systems have to be suitably robust to handle that amount of incoming data... It's interesting, but I think that the big news is that some money is being handed to Ted Ng now to develop his prototypes into a viable production camera. The technology curve is catching up to the needs of this kind of capture and processing, so a new game in photography could happen in the near future. On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 12:44 AM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe someone else has posted this, but I have a bit more than 8k messages from the PDML in my inbox, which I haven't even begun to wade trough, so I've decided to share. Mike Johnston seems to think this is the future, but a little bit of research on the technology left me somewhat underwhelmed, perhaps because I was expecting some kind or real breakthrough, maybe having to do do with holographic principals, as opposed to massively processing different image planes. Still it's an interesting concept. http://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/the_online_photographer/2011/06/the-next-big-thing.html -- Where's the Kaboom? There was supposed to be an Earth-shattering Kaboom! --Marvin the Martian. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 3:56 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com wrote: The plenoptic concept is making the rounds today. At least 14 people have sent me notes about it. By combining those notes in different ways, you can focus on different aspects of the technology. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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It seems to be capable of altering some phototographic approaches radically. I expect dramatic contributions to macrophotography of static objects, for example. Sports photography may need some more time, though... Bulent - http://www.flickr.com/photos/bc_the_path/ http://photo.net/photodb/user?user_id=2226822 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/bulentcelasun 2011/6/23 P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com: Maybe someone else has posted this, but I have a bit more than 8k messages from the PDML in my inbox, which I haven't even begun to wade trough, so I've decided to share. Mike Johnston seems to think this is the future, but a little bit of research on the technology left me somewhat underwhelmed, perhaps because I was expecting some kind or real breakthrough, maybe having to do do with holographic principals, as opposed to massively processing different image planes. Still it's an interesting concept. http://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/the_online_photographer/2011/06/the-next-big-thing.html -- Where's the Kaboom? There was supposed to be an Earth-shattering Kaboom! --Marvin the Martian. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 12:58 PM, Matthew Hunt m...@pobox.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 3:56 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com wrote: The plenoptic concept is making the rounds today. At least 14 people have sent me notes about it. By combining those notes in different ways, you can focus on different aspects of the technology. Or make it a thoroughly senseless mish-mash of competing ideas if I want. ;-) -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Well, I think it's the Segway of photography. On 6/22/2011 3:58 PM, Bulent Celasun wrote: It seems to be capable of altering some phototographic approaches radically. I expect dramatic contributions to macrophotography of static objects, for example. Sports photography may need some more time, though... Bulent - http://www.flickr.com/photos/bc_the_path/ http://photo.net/photodb/user?user_id=2226822 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/bulentcelasun 2011/6/23 P. J. Allingwebstertwenty...@gmail.com: Maybe someone else has posted this, but I have a bit more than 8k messages from the PDML in my inbox, which I haven't even begun to wade trough, so I've decided to share. Mike Johnston seems to think this is the future, but a little bit of research on the technology left me somewhat underwhelmed, perhaps because I was expecting some kind or real breakthrough, maybe having to do do with holographic principals, as opposed to massively processing different image planes. Still it's an interesting concept. http://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/the_online_photographer/2011/06/the-next-big-thing.html -- Where's the Kaboom? There was supposed to be an Earth-shattering Kaboom! --Marvin the Martian. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Where's the Kaboom? There was supposed to be an Earth-shattering Kaboom! --Marvin the Martian. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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[Default] On Wed, 22 Jun 2011 22:58:30 +0300, Bulent Celasun bulent.cela...@gmail.com wrote: It seems to be capable of altering some phototographic approaches radically. I expect dramatic contributions to macrophotography of static objects, for example. Sports photography may need some more time, though... Yep. Apparently you get a ~12:1 reduction in resolution in return for this post-shot focus capability: Your 24-megapixel sensor becomes a 2 -megapixel sensor. It'll be interesting to see where this goes. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Is that like being the Eagles of Death Metal? On 11-06-23 4:39 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: Well, I think it's the Segway of photography. On 6/22/2011 3:58 PM, Bulent Celasun wrote: It seems to be capable of altering some phototographic approaches radically. I expect dramatic contributions to macrophotography of static objects, for example. Sports photography may need some more time, though... Bulent - http://www.flickr.com/photos/bc_the_path/ http://photo.net/photodb/user?user_id=2226822 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/bulentcelasun 2011/6/23 P. J. Allingwebstertwenty...@gmail.com: Maybe someone else has posted this, but I have a bit more than 8k messages from the PDML in my inbox, which I haven't even begun to wade trough, so I've decided to share. Mike Johnston seems to think this is the future, but a little bit of research on the technology left me somewhat underwhelmed, perhaps because I was expecting some kind or real breakthrough, maybe having to do do with holographic principals, as opposed to massively processing different image planes. Still it's an interesting concept. http://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/the_online_photographer/2011/06/the-next-big-thing.html -- Where's the Kaboom? There was supposed to be an Earth-shattering Kaboom! --Marvin the Martian. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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The original hype around the Segway was that it was going to change personal transportation forever. What it was was a technical tour d' force that in reality changed almost nothing, it wasn't an anti gravity flying car or a personal transportation system. The Segway was a device that couldn't do anything a healthy person couldn't do walking, and in fact couldn't even go cross country as well. This strikes me as the photographic equivalent. I expect that there's more of a market for a camera built on these principals as opposed to the Segway which is now the province of over weight rent-a-cops and the US Postal service, more than anything else. On 6/22/2011 4:58 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: Is that like being the Eagles of Death Metal? On 11-06-23 4:39 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: Well, I think it's the Segway of photography. On 6/22/2011 3:58 PM, Bulent Celasun wrote: It seems to be capable of altering some phototographic approaches radically. I expect dramatic contributions to macrophotography of static objects, for example. Sports photography may need some more time, though... Bulent - http://www.flickr.com/photos/bc_the_path/ http://photo.net/photodb/user?user_id=2226822 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/bulentcelasun 2011/6/23 P. J. Allingwebstertwenty...@gmail.com: Maybe someone else has posted this, but I have a bit more than 8k messages from the PDML in my inbox, which I haven't even begun to wade trough, so I've decided to share. Mike Johnston seems to think this is the future, but a little bit of research on the technology left me somewhat underwhelmed, perhaps because I was expecting some kind or real breakthrough, maybe having to do do with holographic principals, as opposed to massively processing different image planes. Still it's an interesting concept. http://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/the_online_photographer/2011/06/the-next-big-thing.html -- Where's the Kaboom? There was supposed to be an Earth-shattering Kaboom! --Marvin the Martian. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Where's the Kaboom? There was supposed to be an Earth-shattering Kaboom! --Marvin the Martian. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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[Default] On Thu, 23 Jun 2011 05:21:05 -0400, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: The original hype around the Segway was that it was going to change personal transportation forever. What it was was a technical tour d' force that in reality changed almost nothing The inventor saw it as a replacement for the automobile. Everyone else on the planet saw it as a replacement for walking. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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A whole lot of noise about a technology that could be done for a thousandth of the cost by adding a third wheel? On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 4:39 AM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: Well, I think it's the Segway of photography. On 6/22/2011 3:58 PM, Bulent Celasun wrote: It seems to be capable of altering some phototographic approaches radically. I expect dramatic contributions to macrophotography of static objects, for example. Sports photography may need some more time, though... Bulent - http://www.flickr.com/photos/bc_the_path/ http://photo.net/photodb/user?user_id=2226822 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/bulentcelasun 2011/6/23 P. J. Allingwebstertwenty...@gmail.com: Maybe someone else has posted this, but I have a bit more than 8k messages from the PDML in my inbox, which I haven't even begun to wade trough, so I've decided to share. Mike Johnston seems to think this is the future, but a little bit of research on the technology left me somewhat underwhelmed, perhaps because I was expecting some kind or real breakthrough, maybe having to do do with holographic principals, as opposed to massively processing different image planes. Still it's an interesting concept. http://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/the_online_photographer/2011/06/the-next-big-thing.html -- Where's the Kaboom? There was supposed to be an Earth-shattering Kaboom! --Marvin the Martian. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Where's the Kaboom? There was supposed to be an Earth-shattering Kaboom! --Marvin the Martian. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- David Parsons Photography http://www.davidparsonsphoto.com Aloha Photographer Photoblog http://alohaphotog.blogspot.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 04:57:45PM -0400, Mark Roberts wrote: [Default] On Wed, 22 Jun 2011 22:58:30 +0300, Bulent Celasun bulent.cela...@gmail.com wrote: It seems to be capable of altering some phototographic approaches radically. I expect dramatic contributions to macrophotography of static objects, for example. Sports photography may need some more time, though... Yep. Apparently you get a ~12:1 reduction in resolution in return for this post-shot focus capability: Your 24-megapixel sensor becomes a 2 -megapixel sensor. It'll be interesting to see where this goes. Well, another turn of the wheel (or another couple of years) will double the number of pixels, which will get it up into the reasonable range for something a bit larger than a web image. And you can actually do a little better in software, if you tweak it for resolution rather than increased DOF or dynamic focus. Or at least that's what the researchers said when they gave a presentation at a Silicon Valley SIGGraph meeting last year. By 2015 we'll probably have a plenoptic camera that outperforms my *ist-D. Signal-to-noise ratios will still be far below what a K-5 can manage, but the *ist-D is lacking in that department, too. That didn't stop me getting some pretty good images with it between 2003 and 2006, though. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Geez, I should really proof these before I hit send. On 6/23/2011 5:21 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: The original hype around the Segway was that it was going to change personal transportation forever. What it was was a technical tour d' force that in reality changed almost nothing, it wasn't an anti gravity flying car or a personal transportation system. The Segway was a device that couldn't do anything a healthy person couldn't do walking, and in fact couldn't even go cross country as well. This strikes me as the photographic equivalent. I expect that there's more of a market for a camera built on these principals as opposed to the Segway which is now the province of over weight rent-a-cops and the US Postal service, more than anything else. On 6/22/2011 4:58 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: Is that like being the Eagles of Death Metal? On 11-06-23 4:39 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: Well, I think it's the Segway of photography. On 6/22/2011 3:58 PM, Bulent Celasun wrote: It seems to be capable of altering some phototographic approaches radically. I expect dramatic contributions to macrophotography of static objects, for example. Sports photography may need some more time, though... Bulent - http://www.flickr.com/photos/bc_the_path/ http://photo.net/photodb/user?user_id=2226822 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/bulentcelasun 2011/6/23 P. J. Allingwebstertwenty...@gmail.com: Maybe someone else has posted this, but I have a bit more than 8k messages from the PDML in my inbox, which I haven't even begun to wade trough, so I've decided to share. Mike Johnston seems to think this is the future, but a little bit of research on the technology left me somewhat underwhelmed, perhaps because I was expecting some kind or real breakthrough, maybe having to do do with holographic principals, as opposed to massively processing different image planes. Still it's an interesting concept. http://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/the_online_photographer/2011/06/the-next-big-thing.html -- Where's the Kaboom? There was supposed to be an Earth-shattering Kaboom! --Marvin the Martian. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Jun 23, 2011, at 2:21 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: The original hype around the Segway was that it was going to change personal transportation forever. What it was was a technical tour d' force that in reality changed almost nothing, it wasn't an anti gravity flying car or a personal transportation system. The Segway was a device that couldn't do anything a healthy person couldn't do walking, and in fact couldn't even go cross country as well. This strikes me as the photographic equivalent. I expect that there's more of a market for a camera built on these principals as opposed to the Segway which is now the province of over weight rent-a-cops and the US Postal service, more than anything else. I've been doing some thinking about plenoptics and I don't see it as much the game changer in photography as I do in things like 3-d mapping. If you can do things like change the depth of field, you can also do things like calculate the distance to each point in the image. Imagine something like google's street view cars equipped with a version of this camera where each image can make a crude 3-d map of the buildings around the car, and then combining those images for a fairly high resolution 3-d map of a city, that is reasonably accurate at least at street level. Another potential use for it would be to get a good 3-D map of someone's body, so that when they order clothes they can be cut to fit, in the desired color and fabric, sewn at slave labor rates and then shipped to your doorstep. Likewise, realtors selling houses are already trying to do some sort of 360 degree images, one of these cameras could be used to get very good 3-d models of each room for virtual tours. Internal decorators, remodelers etc. could then modify those 3-d models to show their proposed changes. You'd have to set the camera up several places in each room with good differential gps, but you could probably fudge by figuring out what parts of the room correspond with each other, like you do stitching 2-d images. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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So, does this mean I should hold off on my plans to get the K3 (or whatever it's going to be called) once it comes out? From: Godfrey DiGiorgi The plenoptic concept is making the rounds today. At least 14 people have sent me notes about it. I've been tracking this technology from the first discussions and talks about it in 2006ish, IIRC. The idea is simple: Instead of capturing only spatial information from the incoming light, capture the vector information as well. That allows for in-process focus adjustment and more sophisticated image correction processing. It's not 3D or holography, it's more information with which to focus and render the image. The downside of this is all technical. You generally need about 10x as many photo receptors to produce a given number of finished image pixels ... so a 12 Mpixel image relies on having somewhere around 120-144 million photosites behind them to capture both spatial and vector data. Similarly, the image processing and data handling systems have to be suitably robust to handle that amount of incoming data... It's interesting, but I think that the big news is that some money is being handed to Ted Ng now to develop his prototypes into a viable production camera. The technology curve is catching up to the needs of this kind of capture and processing, so a new game in photography could happen in the near future. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1382 / Virus Database: 1513/3718 - Release Date: 06/21/11 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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The K3: the 64 GP massive matrix array holographic data reconstruction 125X zoom mirrorless Captain Marvel camera. Powered by a small pink spacetime singularly. $150 rebate coupon. Now accepting preorders. -Original Message- From: John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com Sender: pdml-boun...@pdml.net Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 20:33:26 To: pdml@pdml.net Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: New camera technology touted at TOP So, does this mean I should hold off on my plans to get the K3 (or whatever it's going to be called) once it comes out? From: Godfrey DiGiorgi The plenoptic concept is making the rounds today. At least 14 people have sent me notes about it. I've been tracking this technology from the first discussions and talks about it in 2006ish, IIRC. The idea is simple: Instead of capturing only spatial information from the incoming light, capture the vector information as well. That allows for in-process focus adjustment and more sophisticated image correction processing. It's not 3D or holography, it's more information with which to focus and render the image. The downside of this is all technical. You generally need about 10x as many photo receptors to produce a given number of finished image pixels ... so a 12 Mpixel image relies on having somewhere around 120-144 million photosites behind them to capture both spatial and vector data. Similarly, the image processing and data handling systems have to be suitably robust to handle that amount of incoming data... It's interesting, but I think that the big news is that some money is being handed to Ted Ng now to develop his prototypes into a viable production camera. The technology curve is catching up to the needs of this kind of capture and processing, so a new game in photography could happen in the near future. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1382 / Virus Database: 1513/3718 - Release Date: 06/21/11 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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From: Mark Roberts [Default] On Wed, 22 Jun 2011 22:58:30 +0300, Bulent Celasun bulent.cela...@gmail.com wrote: It seems to be capable of altering some phototographic approaches radically. I expect dramatic contributions to macrophotography of static objects, for example. Sports photography may need some more time, though... Yep. Apparently you get a ~12:1 reduction in resolution in return for this post-shot focus capability: Your 24-megapixel sensor becomes a 2 -megapixel sensor. It'll be interesting to see where this goes. I didn't know what plenoptic means, so I looked it up. I eventually ended up at a Wikipedia page about the 4D light field ... I didn't understand all of it. Describing math that's beyond my grasp using words ain't my best subject. But this part seems fairly simple: In a plenoptic function, if the region of interest contains a concave object (think of a cupped hand), then light leaving one point on the object may travel only a short distance before being blocked by another point on the object. No practical device could measure the function in such a region. It goes on to say if the locations are restricted to outside the convex hull ... of an object, the plenoptic function can be measured by a digital camera. Most everything I photograph is made up of both concave convex surfaces. How do they overcome the problem with the concave ones? If they can't then only part of the photo works. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1382 / Virus Database: 1513/3718 - Release Date: 06/21/11 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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From: P. J. Alling The original hype around the Segway was that it was going to change personal transportation forever. What it was was a technical tour d' force that in reality changed almost nothing, it wasn't an anti gravity flying car or a personal transportation system. The Segway was a device that couldn't do anything a healthy person couldn't do walking, and in fact couldn't even go cross country as well. This strikes me as the photographic equivalent. I expect that there's more of a market for a camera built on these principals as opposed to the Segway which is now the province of over weight rent-a-cops and the US Postal service, more than anything else. http://citysegwaytours.com/ - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1382 / Virus Database: 1513/3718 - Release Date: 06/21/11 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New camera technology touted at TOP
From: Mark Roberts [Default] On Thu, 23 Jun 2011 05:21:05 -0400, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: The original hype around the Segway was that it was going to change personal transportation forever. What it was was a technical tour d' force that in reality changed almost nothing The inventor saw it as a replacement for the automobile. Everyone else on the planet saw it as a replacement for walking. It doesn't have the range of the automobile, so you still have to keep a car for longer trips. Nor does it have the all weather capability. It does have a greater range than many people are able to walk nowadays. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1382 / Virus Database: 1513/3718 - Release Date: 06/21/11 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
