OT - CinePaint and Pentax Photo 3.61 under Linux, work in progress
Hi Graydon, thanks for the comments - and sorry for the delay, things happen... :-) Just found the damned package, downloaded and all is working... so far. Just made a try with Camera Raw (can't remember the version, came with my CS2) in a night shot and I'd keep UFRAW no matter what. CinePaint is not CS2 - I can't find my way around some tasks - but for anything that doesn't require extensive healing or editing it's going to be used. Right now I'm trying a quick fix for CS2 under Wine 1.0 (alt key shortcuts), since I have some heads to move around older pics and I'm under 10 hours of use of CinePaint and still have a long way to learn. Time, again... and all that while the kids come to ask anything from a kiss to why can't we just go back to the beach to see it by night... and get more ice cream :-) The 16 bit depth stays as long as possible - same as loseless compression. Any losses come as final step, if needed - both in image and sound. I don't print at home - so far. But I'd keep as much detail in the pic for as long as possible because once it's gone, it's gone. Tomorrow I may need it, who knows? Link to the missing link: http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/o/openexr/libopenexr2ldbl_1.2.2-4.4ubuntu1.1_i386.deb Amazing as may seem, my previous searches didn't get this particular result. Typing errors? The correct search string was on my cache, and the other (followed) inks appear in the google results... Gremlins - it's NOT old age... But Synaptic and Apt-Get missed the target too. Luiz Felipe luiz.felipe at techmit.com.br http://www.techmit.com.br/luizfelipe On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 04:16:40AM -0200, Luiz Felipe scripsit: Cinepaint never worked for me. Last week I came across a piece of info that allowed me get it working, without crashes so far. It's still a work in progress, since some software dependencies aren't met under Ubuntu no matter what - but I just can't try other distros right now, no more tests for the moment. I'm wondering if any of you have managed to work from SD card to print in Linux. And how. ufraw for raw processing, cinepaint for anything (like detailed colour balance fiddling) ufraw doesn't do if you need 16bit. I mount the SD cards directly (just sticking them in a USB reader should do that) and copy the files off them into a directory. If you're using apt-get and cinepaint is a ubuntu package you should certainly get all of the dependencies. (As a general rule, if it's not a package, you don't use it. If you are not utterly certain what using force will do, don't do it. If you break either rule, there will be learning experiences.) I will note that I can't readily see the difference between 16bit and 8bit colour in print output; I suspect I would need a good dedicated photo printer for that. (I have a Xerox 8550 solid ink printer. I really like it, and Xerox claims full Pantone capability, but it's not a photo printer.) If you've got one, I'd be making sure that you can print to it first. If it's just going to jpeg *anyway*, ufraw + gimp works fine. Both systems are fully up-to-date - an issue since after the forced CinePaint install all package managers refuse to work proper unless I take down ditto CinePaint as the failed depency is impossible to meet so far (libopenexr2ldbl (=1.2.2)). OK, delete -- using the package manager -- cinepaint. libopenexr2ldbl is a Ubuntu package; what response do you get when you try to install just it? -- Graydon -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - CinePaint and Pentax Photo 3.61 under Linux, work in progress
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 04:16:40AM -0200, Luiz Felipe scripsit: Cinepaint never worked for me. Last week I came across a piece of info that allowed me get it working, without crashes so far. It's still a work in progress, since some software dependencies aren't met under Ubuntu no matter what - but I just can't try other distros right now, no more tests for the moment. I'm wondering if any of you have managed to work from SD card to print in Linux. And how. ufraw for raw processing, cinepaint for anything (like detailed colour balance fiddling) ufraw doesn't do if you need 16bit. I mount the SD cards directly (just sticking them in a USB reader should do that) and copy the files off them into a directory. If you're using apt-get and cinepaint is a ubuntu package you should certainly get all of the dependencies. (As a general rule, if it's not a package, you don't use it. If you are not utterly certain what using force will do, don't do it. If you break either rule, there will be learning experiences.) I will note that I can't readily see the difference between 16bit and 8bit colour in print output; I suspect I would need a good dedicated photo printer for that. (I have a Xerox 8550 solid ink printer. I really like it, and Xerox claims full Pantone capability, but it's not a photo printer.) If you've got one, I'd be making sure that you can print to it first. If it's just going to jpeg *anyway*, ufraw + gimp works fine. Both systems are fully up-to-date - an issue since after the forced CinePaint install all package managers refuse to work proper unless I take down ditto CinePaint as the failed depency is impossible to meet so far (libopenexr2ldbl (=1.2.2)). OK, delete -- using the package manager -- cinepaint. libopenexr2ldbl is a Ubuntu package; what response do you get when you try to install just it? -- Graydon -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - CinePaint and Pentax Photo 3.61 under Linux, work in progress
On Fri, 22 Jan 2010 04:16:40 -0200 Luiz Felipe luiz.fel...@techmit.com.br wrote: After all that, I'm out of ideas - and time. If one or more of you have more info, I'd love to read about. I use Digikam almost excluding all else. Does 16 bit colour, photo managment, editing. I have not needed the extra power of gimp for some time. I am in Ubuntu 9.10 on laptop. It is a KDE application so needs some other lib installations. Its in the repositories. -- Love is that condition in which the happiness of another person is essential to your own... Jealousy is a disease, love is a healthy condition.- Robert Heinlein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - CinePaint and Pentax Photo 3.61 under Linux, work in progress
Hello, for Linux I can recommend RawTherapee for working on raw images, combined with digiKam as the management solution for images (including tags and upload-plugins for various online services). Steffen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT - CinePaint and Pentax Photo 3.61 under Linux, work in progress
Well, I did manage to get the Pentax stuff (version 3.61) running under Xubuntu Linux and Wine some time ago, but had some issues with the GIMP photo software since it's 8-bits (color depth) only. As I still had Photoshop under Windows XP in another machine, there was no big problem - my notebook's monitor isn't that good anyway. Sadly the XP machine acquired a terminal moisture-related ilness, and is scheduled to be shot one of these days at our local target range - so I'm to fully edit my photos on the Linux notebook. Cinepaint never worked for me. Last week I came across a piece of info that allowed me get it working, without crashes so far. It's still a work in progress, since some software dependencies aren't met under Ubuntu no matter what - but I just can't try other distros right now, no more tests for the moment. I'm wondering if any of you have managed to work from SD card to print in Linux. And how. My current setup (two disks, one system older, one new): Xubuntu Linux 9.04 + Wine (1.0) + Pentax Photo Lab and Browser (3.61, installed from the Pentax site download) + UFRAW (0.15-1 build 1) + Gimp (2.6.6) + Cinepaint (0.22-3 from the debs by Aedan Kelly - only setup that did work so far). I did install Nautilus (1:2.26.2) since it's able to display the PEFs as icons too, assuming UFRAW is installed. The second hard drive is a fresh Xubuntu 9.10 install, same programs. Noticeably faster than the other, but since the hard drives are diff I can't really say it's the new distro. Both systems are fully up-to-date - an issue since after the forced CinePaint install all package managers refuse to work proper unless I take down ditto CinePaint as the failed depency is impossible to meet so far (libopenexr2ldbl (=1.2.2)). After all that, I'm out of ideas - and time. If one or more of you have more info, I'd love to read about. Aedan Kelly's efforts on CinePaint may be found at http://sidux.net/etorix/ - for those interested in trying. For any interested, my road to (x)ubuntu started with an ancient BR-customized distro, Debian-based called Kurumin, now extinct. After the original brain quit, a last effort to keep Kurumin kicking was a Kubuntu remaster. Wich prompted me to include those among the distros I was testing at the time. So far it's ok - since 2008 I chose Xubuntu - which I regard as just a little faster and smaller than its cousins. TIA, good light, great photos - to you all. Luiz Felipe luiz.felipe at techmit.com.br http://www.techmit.com.br/luizfelipe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
