Re: OT - Turn reply into a new thread using Gmail
On 20 May 2010 20:19, Anthony Farr farranth...@gmail.com wrote: 1. Click Reply. 2. Copy the contents. 3. Discard the message. You'll be returned to the thread. 4. Hover the pointer over Pentax-Discuss at the top of any PDML message and a box will pop up. 5. Click on Email and you'll get a brand new message to compose, already addressed to p...@pdml.net. Nope. Comes up with the personal email. PDML is invisible. 6. Paste the contents from the discarded reply, to be quoted and replied to as is your wont. 7. Give the message a brand new name in the subject field. Viola, a new thread is born. Now I hope to Gawd that this works as I predict. I've done this before, and it has always happened as I described. The only spanner-in-the-works will be if Google has changed something under the hood in Gmail. It's not Gmail, it's my ISP's wemail interface, powered by Google. Which presumably means some locked-down version of Gmail. Thanks for trying but I'll just have to suffer in silence. Which is not suffering for the rest of you. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT - Turn reply into a new thread using Gmail
1. Click Reply. 2. Copy the contents. 3. Discard the message. You'll be returned to the thread. 4. Hover the pointer over Pentax-Discuss at the top of any PDML message and a box will pop up. 5. Click on Email and you'll get a brand new message to compose, already addressed to p...@pdml.net. 6. Paste the contents from the discarded reply, to be quoted and replied to as is your wont. 7. Give the message a brand new name in the subject field. Viola, a new thread is born. Now I hope to Gawd that this works as I predict. I've done this before, and it has always happened as I described. The only spanner-in-the-works will be if Google has changed something under the hood in Gmail. regards, Anthony Of what use is lens and light to those who lack in mind and sight (Anon) On 20 May 2010 17:57, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote: On 19 May 2010 19:57, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote: just noticed this buried in the Chicago thread (i use a true threaded mail reader, so if you use reply to post something on a new topic, it will still get threaded with whatever you reply to) hijack My ISP has recently changed its webmail interface to one powered by Google that does this. With no apparent way of turning it off. What a load of regurgitated garbage it is. Not to mention that there is no way to put newest messages at the bottom. How stupid is that? The new interface works much more quickly than the previous one but, as it is irredemiably broken as far as I am concerned, I will be using it much less. For which you may raise thanks to your deity /hijack -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Turn reply into a new thread using Gmail
Wouldn't it be enough to just click first reply and then edit subject? Cheers Ecke 2010/5/20 Anthony Farr farranth...@gmail.com: 1. Click Reply. 2. Copy the contents. 3. Discard the message. You'll be returned to the thread. 4. Hover the pointer over Pentax-Discuss at the top of any PDML message and a box will pop up. 5. Click on Email and you'll get a brand new message to compose, already addressed to p...@pdml.net. 6. Paste the contents from the discarded reply, to be quoted and replied to as is your wont. 7. Give the message a brand new name in the subject field. Viola, a new thread is born. Now I hope to Gawd that this works as I predict. I've done this before, and it has always happened as I described. The only spanner-in-the-works will be if Google has changed something under the hood in Gmail. regards, Anthony Of what use is lens and light to those who lack in mind and sight (Anon) On 20 May 2010 17:57, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote: On 19 May 2010 19:57, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote: just noticed this buried in the Chicago thread (i use a true threaded mail reader, so if you use reply to post something on a new topic, it will still get threaded with whatever you reply to) hijack My ISP has recently changed its webmail interface to one powered by Google that does this. With no apparent way of turning it off. What a load of regurgitated garbage it is. Not to mention that there is no way to put newest messages at the bottom. How stupid is that? The new interface works much more quickly than the previous one but, as it is irredemiably broken as far as I am concerned, I will be using it much less. For which you may raise thanks to your deity /hijack -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Turn reply into a new thread using Gmail
On 21 May 2010 05:23, eckinator eckina...@gmail.com wrote: Wouldn't it be enough to just click first reply and then edit subject? I don't believe so. Gmail will add headers to any reply within a thread, that will lock it into the thread even if you edit the subject field. The way I describe will give you a completely virginal message suitable to begin a new thread, as has occurred in this example. regards, Anthony Of what use is lens and light to those who lack in mind and sight (Anon) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Turn reply into a new thread using Gmail
On 2010-05-20 13:23 , eckinator wrote: Wouldn't it be enough to just click first reply and then edit subject? how gmail handles the threads is byzantine; i've tested it several times, and in today's test if i change the subject in a reply in another client, gmail will treat it as a new conversation despite the proper threading headers; if i change the subject while replying from within gmail, it is considered part of the same conversation in gmail, but will be sent without the threading headers so other clients will see it as a new thread (and the same may be true when a mailing list sends your email back to you) gmail aside, the standard in any email client is that replies, whether the subject is changed or not, will be threaded; there are good reasons to change a subject line during a thread; the fact that most people don't use threaded email clients, or that gmail has decided (for all of us) that conversations are better than threads, doesn't matter; to start a new thread, create a new blank email -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Turn reply into a new thread using Gmail
No. Threading based on subject line is a misfeature that is found in several broken email programs. The right way to do it is to use the headers specifically designed for threading (In-Reply-To: and References:). Threading based on subject means that if I choose the same subject line for my email as one that somebody else used five years ago my message will turn up at the end of that earlier thread, even though it has absolutely nothing to do with it. On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 09:23:02PM +0200, eckinator wrote: Wouldn't it be enough to just click first reply and then edit subject? Cheers Ecke 2010/5/20 Anthony Farr farranth...@gmail.com: 1. ? Click Reply. 2. ? Copy the contents. 3. ? Discard the message. You'll be returned to the thread. 4. ? Hover the pointer over Pentax-Discuss at the top of any PDML message and a box will pop up. 5. ? Click on Email and you'll get a brand new message to compose, already addressed to p...@pdml.net. 6. ? Paste the contents from the discarded reply, to be quoted and replied to as is your wont. 7. ? Give the message a brand new name in the subject field. ?Viola, a new thread is born. Now I hope to Gawd that this works as I predict. ?I've done this before, and it has always happened as I described. ?The only spanner-in-the-works will be if Google has changed something under the hood in Gmail. regards, Anthony ? Of what use is lens and light ? ?to those who lack in mind and sight ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? (Anon) On 20 May 2010 17:57, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote: On 19 May 2010 19:57, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote: just noticed this buried in the Chicago thread (i use a true threaded mail reader, so if you use reply to post something on a new topic, it will still get threaded with whatever you reply to) hijack My ISP has recently changed its webmail interface to one powered by Google that does this. ?With no apparent way of turning it off. ?What a load of regurgitated garbage it is. ?Not to mention that there is no way to put newest messages at the bottom. ?How stupid is that? ?The new interface works much more quickly than the previous one but, as it is irredemiably broken as far as I am concerned, I will be using it much less. ?For which you may raise thanks to your deity /hijack -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.