Re: Ot; Just so you know...

[ann sanfedele]

NOW you tell me!

I'm mending  a bit better than I thought I would  .. phew...

ann

On 2/9/2017 4:31 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:
Didn't have a clue what this was about until I saw your wheelie 
post... About falling off a chair I don't have much advice except, 
Don't do that.



On 2/4/2017 5:01 PM, ann sanfedele wrote:
Last Friday I found the perfect way to clear my brain from the 
elephant in the room ...


I fell off of a wheely chair (office chair in my kitchen ) - The 
chair has been tossed out.. it was not well balanced, and I was jsut 
sitting on it and leaned forward to pick something up off the kitchen 
floor...  which slants a bit.. tried Not to fall (usually a bad idea) 
and the chair threw me like a mechanical bull at a Texas bar...
I only  slightly exagerate for color... sprained my lower back, hit 
the back of my head on the kitchen sink this was Friday night a 
week ago...



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[P. J. Alling]

Didn't have a clue what this was about until I saw your wheelie post... 
About falling off a chair I don't have much advice except, Don't do that.



On 2/4/2017 5:01 PM, ann sanfedele wrote:
Last Friday I found the perfect way to clear my brain from the 
elephant in the room ...


I fell off of a wheely chair (office chair in my kitchen ) - The chair 
has been tossed out.. it was not well balanced, and I was jsut sitting 
on it and leaned forward to pick something up off the kitchen 
floor...  which slants a bit.. tried Not to fall (usually a bad idea) 
and the chair threw me like a mechanical bull at a Texas bar...
I only  slightly exagerate for color... sprained my lower back, hit 
the back of my head on the kitchen sink this was Friday night a 
week ago...


I piled an icepack on my goose egg and another on my back ... No 
broken bones... I checked on line that the area of my head that got 
bumped was a pretty low candidate to cause a concussion (about 4 
inches above the top of my left ear.)  Ice wsa applied for about 3 
hours to both areas, a lot of words with friends ws played and the 
serious news of the day ignored.  Head wasn not very hurt and swelling 
went down quickly  - but the way I twisted my back was giving me a lot 
of pain.  two Naproxin Sodium pills were swallowed - I normally onlly 
take one if I hurt say 5 or 6 on a scale of 10.. this was like 15 on a 
scale of 1 -10.


Then I called a friend who I knew I wouldnt impose on by crying and 
bitching to him, because he lives north of Boston, is wonderful at 
"there, there" and pretty savvy medically... and another friend in NY 
who is too imobile for his own problems to be able to come help.


saturday I applied heat - I had some stuff here and a friend and 
neighbor fetched more..  got out with a cane on MOnday with some 
difficulty.. staye in for the worst weather on Tuesday, walked again 
on Wed, and each day after...


getting out of bed was intense .. the layered foam was too squishy... 
again, helpful hands helped me remove a layer and roll it up in both 
my main bed and the office twin...


Last night was the first night I could get out of bed with only 
moderate pain and today I walked about 1/2 a mile without cane...


It was just so annoying because I had lost weight, had gotten a lovely 
check up in December , hardly felt the knee arthritis and was in full 
get things accomplished mode.


Also had some weird stuff witht he computer but that seems to have 
been nothing.. ..


It will surely be a month or so before I'm really right again, as long 
as I don't get too cocky and think I'm in better shape than I am... 
glad it didn't require

hospitals or doctors or the like...

There, theres appreciated.

thanks for reading the rant

ann




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Re: Ot; Just so you know...

[ann sanfedele]

 Har!

a

On 2/6/2017 5:40 AM, Chris Mitchell wrote:

Divided by a common sense of humo(u)r...

On 6 Feb 2017 09:26, "ann sanfedele"  wrote:

I knew you were kidding about the specialist ..and  thought I was being
clever in response
  - however I really did exile the offending item.
a



On 2/6/2017 3:16 AM, Chris Mitchell wrote:


Not really suggesting specialists. I was trying to be clever with
"There, their...".

CM





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Divided by a common sense of humo(u)r...

On 6 Feb 2017 09:26, "ann sanfedele"  wrote:

I knew you were kidding about the specialist ..and  thought I was being
clever in response
 - however I really did exile the offending item.
a



On 2/6/2017 3:16 AM, Chris Mitchell wrote:

> Not really suggesting specialists. I was trying to be clever with
> "There, their...".
>
> CM
>
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I knew you were kidding about the specialist ..and  thought I was being 
clever in response

 - however I really did exile the offending item.
a


On 2/6/2017 3:16 AM, Chris Mitchell wrote:

Not really suggesting specialists. I was trying to be clever with
"There, their...".

CM

On 6 February 2017 at 03:31, ann sanfedele  wrote:

I eschew specialists :-)

the offending beast has been discarded and all the other wheelies here are 5
leggers...

ann


On 2/5/2017 2:28 PM, Chris Mitchell wrote:

Bad luck Ann. Recover well and soon. You need to go to a specialist
chair supplier. There, their chairs are guaranteed not to fall over..

Chris

On 4 February 2017 at 22:01, ann sanfedele  wrote:

Last Friday I found the perfect way to clear my brain from the elephant
in
the room ...

I fell off of a wheely chair (office chair in my kitchen ) - The chair
has
been tossed out.. it was not well balanced, and I was jsut sitting on it
and
leaned forward to pick something up off the kitchen floor...  which
slants a
bit.. tried Not to fall (usually a bad idea) and the chair threw me like
a
mechanical bull at a Texas bar...
I only  slightly exagerate for color... sprained my lower back, hit the
back
of my head on the kitchen sink this was Friday night a week ago...

I piled an icepack on my goose egg and another on my back ... No broken
bones... I checked on line that the area of my head that got bumped was a
pretty low candidate to cause a concussion (about 4 inches above the top
of
my left ear.)  Ice wsa applied for about 3 hours to both areas, a lot of
words with friends ws played and the serious news of the day ignored.
Head
wasn not very hurt and swelling went down quickly  - but the way I
twisted
my back was giving me a lot of pain.  two Naproxin Sodium pills were
swallowed - I normally onlly take one if I hurt say 5 or 6 on a scale of
10.. this was like 15 on a scale of 1 -10.

Then I called a friend who I knew I wouldnt impose on by crying and
bitching
to him, because he lives north of Boston, is wonderful at "there, there"
and
pretty savvy medically... and another friend in NY who is too imobile for
his own problems to be able to come help.

saturday I applied heat - I had some stuff here and a friend and neighbor
fetched more..  got out with a cane on MOnday with some difficulty..
staye
in for the worst weather on Tuesday, walked again on Wed, and each day
after...

getting out of bed was intense .. the layered foam was too squishy...
again,
helpful hands helped me remove a layer and roll it up in both my main bed
and the office twin...

Last night was the first night I could get out of bed with only moderate
pain and today I walked about 1/2 a mile without cane...

It was just so annoying because I had lost weight, had gotten a lovely
check
up in December , hardly felt the knee arthritis and was in full get
things
accomplished mode.

Also had some weird stuff witht he computer but that seems to have been
nothing.. ..

It will surely be a month or so before I'm really right again, as long as
I
don't get too cocky and think I'm in better shape than I am... glad it
didn't require
hospitals or doctors or the like...

There, theres appreciated.

thanks for reading the rant

ann

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Re: Ot; Just so you know...

[Chris Mitchell]

Not really suggesting specialists. I was trying to be clever with
"There, their...".

CM

On 6 February 2017 at 03:31, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> I eschew specialists :-)
>
> the offending beast has been discarded and all the other wheelies here are 5
> leggers...
>
> ann
>
>
> On 2/5/2017 2:28 PM, Chris Mitchell wrote:
>>
>> Bad luck Ann. Recover well and soon. You need to go to a specialist
>> chair supplier. There, their chairs are guaranteed not to fall over..
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> On 4 February 2017 at 22:01, ann sanfedele  wrote:
>>>
>>> Last Friday I found the perfect way to clear my brain from the elephant
>>> in
>>> the room ...
>>>
>>> I fell off of a wheely chair (office chair in my kitchen ) - The chair
>>> has
>>> been tossed out.. it was not well balanced, and I was jsut sitting on it
>>> and
>>> leaned forward to pick something up off the kitchen floor...  which
>>> slants a
>>> bit.. tried Not to fall (usually a bad idea) and the chair threw me like
>>> a
>>> mechanical bull at a Texas bar...
>>> I only  slightly exagerate for color... sprained my lower back, hit the
>>> back
>>> of my head on the kitchen sink this was Friday night a week ago...
>>>
>>> I piled an icepack on my goose egg and another on my back ... No broken
>>> bones... I checked on line that the area of my head that got bumped was a
>>> pretty low candidate to cause a concussion (about 4 inches above the top
>>> of
>>> my left ear.)  Ice wsa applied for about 3 hours to both areas, a lot of
>>> words with friends ws played and the serious news of the day ignored.
>>> Head
>>> wasn not very hurt and swelling went down quickly  - but the way I
>>> twisted
>>> my back was giving me a lot of pain.  two Naproxin Sodium pills were
>>> swallowed - I normally onlly take one if I hurt say 5 or 6 on a scale of
>>> 10.. this was like 15 on a scale of 1 -10.
>>>
>>> Then I called a friend who I knew I wouldnt impose on by crying and
>>> bitching
>>> to him, because he lives north of Boston, is wonderful at "there, there"
>>> and
>>> pretty savvy medically... and another friend in NY who is too imobile for
>>> his own problems to be able to come help.
>>>
>>> saturday I applied heat - I had some stuff here and a friend and neighbor
>>> fetched more..  got out with a cane on MOnday with some difficulty..
>>> staye
>>> in for the worst weather on Tuesday, walked again on Wed, and each day
>>> after...
>>>
>>> getting out of bed was intense .. the layered foam was too squishy...
>>> again,
>>> helpful hands helped me remove a layer and roll it up in both my main bed
>>> and the office twin...
>>>
>>> Last night was the first night I could get out of bed with only moderate
>>> pain and today I walked about 1/2 a mile without cane...
>>>
>>> It was just so annoying because I had lost weight, had gotten a lovely
>>> check
>>> up in December , hardly felt the knee arthritis and was in full get
>>> things
>>> accomplished mode.
>>>
>>> Also had some weird stuff witht he computer but that seems to have been
>>> nothing.. ..
>>>
>>> It will surely be a month or so before I'm really right again, as long as
>>> I
>>> don't get too cocky and think I'm in better shape than I am... glad it
>>> didn't require
>>> hospitals or doctors or the like...
>>>
>>> There, theres appreciated.
>>>
>>> thanks for reading the rant
>>>
>>> ann
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Re: Ot; Just so you know...

[ann sanfedele]

If he puts his foot in the fish soup it won't be good for anyone

On 2/5/2017 4:14 PM, Ken Waller wrote:

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From: Mark Roberts <postmas...@robertstech.com>
Subject: Re: Ot; Just so you know...

Steve Cottrell wrote:
On 5/2/17, John, discombobulated, unleashed:
You can add my "there, there" to the list. Don't forget chicken soup. It
might not alleviate physical pain, but it's good for the soul.

In case you were wondering, fish soup isn't good for the sole.

Well you've really put your foot in it there.

Yeah he keeps on floundering.


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Re: Ot; Just so you know...

[ann sanfedele]

Hope you didn't actually stumble ! Thanks for the good wishes - sorry 
not to see more of you too


ann

On 2/5/2017 5:50 PM, Mark C wrote:
Yikes - sorry to hear this, Ann. I hope you are up and better sooner 
than expected. Though still subscribed to PDML I am off list more than 
on. Glad I stumbled into your post.


Take care -

Mark

On 2/4/2017 5:01 PM, ann sanfedele wrote:
Last Friday I found the perfect way to clear my brain from the 
elephant in the room ...


I fell off of a wheely chair (office chair in my kitchen ) - The 
chair has been tossed out.. it was not well balanced, and I was jsut 
sitting on it and leaned forward to pick something up off the kitchen 
floor...  which slants a bit.. tried Not to fall (usually a bad idea) 
and the chair threw me like a mechanical bull at a Texas bar...
I only  slightly exagerate for color... sprained my lower back, hit 
the back of my head on the kitchen sink this was Friday night a 
week ago...


I piled an icepack on my goose egg and another on my back ... No 
broken bones... I checked on line that the area of my head that got 
bumped was a pretty low candidate to cause a concussion (about 4 
inches above the top of my left ear.)  Ice wsa applied for about 3 
hours to both areas, a lot of words with friends ws played and the 
serious news of the day ignored.  Head wasn not very hurt and 
swelling went down quickly  - but the way I twisted my back was 
giving me a lot of pain.  two Naproxin Sodium pills were swallowed - 
I normally onlly take one if I hurt say 5 or 6 on a scale of 10.. 
this was like 15 on a scale of 1 -10.


Then I called a friend who I knew I wouldnt impose on by crying and 
bitching to him, because he lives north of Boston, is wonderful at 
"there, there" and pretty savvy medically... and another friend in NY 
who is too imobile for his own problems to be able to come help.


saturday I applied heat - I had some stuff here and a friend and 
neighbor fetched more..  got out with a cane on MOnday with some 
difficulty.. staye in for the worst weather on Tuesday, walked again 
on Wed, and each day after...


getting out of bed was intense .. the layered foam was too squishy... 
again, helpful hands helped me remove a layer and roll it up in both 
my main bed and the office twin...


Last night was the first night I could get out of bed with only 
moderate pain and today I walked about 1/2 a mile without cane...


It was just so annoying because I had lost weight, had gotten a 
lovely check up in December , hardly felt the knee arthritis and was 
in full get things accomplished mode.


Also had some weird stuff witht he computer but that seems to have 
been nothing.. ..


It will surely be a month or so before I'm really right again, as 
long as I don't get too cocky and think I'm in better shape than I 
am... glad it didn't require

hospitals or doctors or the like...

There, theres appreciated.

thanks for reading the rant

ann







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Re: Ot; Just so you know...

[ann sanfedele]

I eschew specialists :-)

the offending beast has been discarded and all the other wheelies here 
are 5 leggers...


ann

On 2/5/2017 2:28 PM, Chris Mitchell wrote:

Bad luck Ann. Recover well and soon. You need to go to a specialist
chair supplier. There, their chairs are guaranteed not to fall over..

Chris

On 4 February 2017 at 22:01, ann sanfedele  wrote:

Last Friday I found the perfect way to clear my brain from the elephant in
the room ...

I fell off of a wheely chair (office chair in my kitchen ) - The chair has
been tossed out.. it was not well balanced, and I was jsut sitting on it and
leaned forward to pick something up off the kitchen floor...  which slants a
bit.. tried Not to fall (usually a bad idea) and the chair threw me like a
mechanical bull at a Texas bar...
I only  slightly exagerate for color... sprained my lower back, hit the back
of my head on the kitchen sink this was Friday night a week ago...

I piled an icepack on my goose egg and another on my back ... No broken
bones... I checked on line that the area of my head that got bumped was a
pretty low candidate to cause a concussion (about 4 inches above the top of
my left ear.)  Ice wsa applied for about 3 hours to both areas, a lot of
words with friends ws played and the serious news of the day ignored.  Head
wasn not very hurt and swelling went down quickly  - but the way I twisted
my back was giving me a lot of pain.  two Naproxin Sodium pills were
swallowed - I normally onlly take one if I hurt say 5 or 6 on a scale of
10.. this was like 15 on a scale of 1 -10.

Then I called a friend who I knew I wouldnt impose on by crying and bitching
to him, because he lives north of Boston, is wonderful at "there, there" and
pretty savvy medically... and another friend in NY who is too imobile for
his own problems to be able to come help.

saturday I applied heat - I had some stuff here and a friend and neighbor
fetched more..  got out with a cane on MOnday with some difficulty.. staye
in for the worst weather on Tuesday, walked again on Wed, and each day
after...

getting out of bed was intense .. the layered foam was too squishy... again,
helpful hands helped me remove a layer and roll it up in both my main bed
and the office twin...

Last night was the first night I could get out of bed with only moderate
pain and today I walked about 1/2 a mile without cane...

It was just so annoying because I had lost weight, had gotten a lovely check
up in December , hardly felt the knee arthritis and was in full get things
accomplished mode.

Also had some weird stuff witht he computer but that seems to have been
nothing.. ..

It will surely be a month or so before I'm really right again, as long as I
don't get too cocky and think I'm in better shape than I am... glad it
didn't require
hospitals or doctors or the like...

There, theres appreciated.

thanks for reading the rant

ann

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[ann sanfedele]

I'm trying my best, Boris - glad your mom didn't do anymore damage than 
she did.


ann

On 2/5/2017 1:42 PM, Boris Liberman wrote:

Ann, please recover quickly and completely. My mother recently fell
and fractured/broke a bone just above the left eye. Fortunately, it
was very minor and she's fully recovered by now. So, please don't
compete with her :-).

Seriously however, it seems you're recovering well. Please keep it that way.

Bors

On Sun, Feb 5, 2017 at 12:01 AM, ann sanfedele  wrote:

Last Friday I found the perfect way to clear my brain from the elephant in
the room ...

I fell off of a wheely chair (office chair in my kitchen ) - The chair has
been tossed out.. it was not well balanced, and I was jsut sitting on it and
leaned forward to pick something up off the kitchen floor...  which slants a
bit.. tried Not to fall (usually a bad idea) and the chair threw me like a
mechanical bull at a Texas bar...
I only  slightly exagerate for color... sprained my lower back, hit the back
of my head on the kitchen sink this was Friday night a week ago...

I piled an icepack on my goose egg and another on my back ... No broken
bones... I checked on line that the area of my head that got bumped was a
pretty low candidate to cause a concussion (about 4 inches above the top of
my left ear.)  Ice wsa applied for about 3 hours to both areas, a lot of
words with friends ws played and the serious news of the day ignored.  Head
wasn not very hurt and swelling went down quickly  - but the way I twisted
my back was giving me a lot of pain.  two Naproxin Sodium pills were
swallowed - I normally onlly take one if I hurt say 5 or 6 on a scale of
10.. this was like 15 on a scale of 1 -10.

Then I called a friend who I knew I wouldnt impose on by crying and bitching
to him, because he lives north of Boston, is wonderful at "there, there" and
pretty savvy medically... and another friend in NY who is too imobile for
his own problems to be able to come help.

saturday I applied heat - I had some stuff here and a friend and neighbor
fetched more..  got out with a cane on MOnday with some difficulty.. staye
in for the worst weather on Tuesday, walked again on Wed, and each day
after...

getting out of bed was intense .. the layered foam was too squishy... again,
helpful hands helped me remove a layer and roll it up in both my main bed
and the office twin...

Last night was the first night I could get out of bed with only moderate
pain and today I walked about 1/2 a mile without cane...

It was just so annoying because I had lost weight, had gotten a lovely check
up in December , hardly felt the knee arthritis and was in full get things
accomplished mode.

Also had some weird stuff witht he computer but that seems to have been
nothing.. ..

It will surely be a month or so before I'm really right again, as long as I
don't get too cocky and think I'm in better shape than I am... glad it
didn't require
hospitals or doctors or the like...

There, theres appreciated.

thanks for reading the rant

ann

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[Mark C]

Yikes - sorry to hear this, Ann. I hope you are up and better sooner 
than expected. Though still subscribed to PDML I am off list more than 
on. Glad I stumbled into your post.


Take care -

Mark

On 2/4/2017 5:01 PM, ann sanfedele wrote:
Last Friday I found the perfect way to clear my brain from the 
elephant in the room ...


I fell off of a wheely chair (office chair in my kitchen ) - The chair 
has been tossed out.. it was not well balanced, and I was jsut sitting 
on it and leaned forward to pick something up off the kitchen 
floor...  which slants a bit.. tried Not to fall (usually a bad idea) 
and the chair threw me like a mechanical bull at a Texas bar...
I only  slightly exagerate for color... sprained my lower back, hit 
the back of my head on the kitchen sink this was Friday night a 
week ago...


I piled an icepack on my goose egg and another on my back ... No 
broken bones... I checked on line that the area of my head that got 
bumped was a pretty low candidate to cause a concussion (about 4 
inches above the top of my left ear.)  Ice wsa applied for about 3 
hours to both areas, a lot of words with friends ws played and the 
serious news of the day ignored.  Head wasn not very hurt and swelling 
went down quickly  - but the way I twisted my back was giving me a lot 
of pain.  two Naproxin Sodium pills were swallowed - I normally onlly 
take one if I hurt say 5 or 6 on a scale of 10.. this was like 15 on a 
scale of 1 -10.


Then I called a friend who I knew I wouldnt impose on by crying and 
bitching to him, because he lives north of Boston, is wonderful at 
"there, there" and pretty savvy medically... and another friend in NY 
who is too imobile for his own problems to be able to come help.


saturday I applied heat - I had some stuff here and a friend and 
neighbor fetched more..  got out with a cane on MOnday with some 
difficulty.. staye in for the worst weather on Tuesday, walked again 
on Wed, and each day after...


getting out of bed was intense .. the layered foam was too squishy... 
again, helpful hands helped me remove a layer and roll it up in both 
my main bed and the office twin...


Last night was the first night I could get out of bed with only 
moderate pain and today I walked about 1/2 a mile without cane...


It was just so annoying because I had lost weight, had gotten a lovely 
check up in December , hardly felt the knee arthritis and was in full 
get things accomplished mode.


Also had some weird stuff witht he computer but that seems to have 
been nothing.. ..


It will surely be a month or so before I'm really right again, as long 
as I don't get too cocky and think I'm in better shape than I am... 
glad it didn't require

hospitals or doctors or the like...

There, theres appreciated.

thanks for reading the rant

ann




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[Ken Waller]

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>From: Mark Roberts <postmas...@robertstech.com>
>Subject: Re: Ot; Just so you know...
>
>Steve Cottrell wrote:
>
>>On 5/2/17, John, discombobulated, unleashed:
>>
>>>You can add my "there, there" to the list. Don't forget chicken soup. It
>>>might not alleviate physical pain, but it's good for the soul.
>>
>>In case you were wondering, fish soup isn't good for the sole.
>
>Well you've really put your foot in it there.

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[Chris Mitchell]

Bad luck Ann. Recover well and soon. You need to go to a specialist
chair supplier. There, their chairs are guaranteed not to fall over..

Chris

On 4 February 2017 at 22:01, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> Last Friday I found the perfect way to clear my brain from the elephant in
> the room ...
>
> I fell off of a wheely chair (office chair in my kitchen ) - The chair has
> been tossed out.. it was not well balanced, and I was jsut sitting on it and
> leaned forward to pick something up off the kitchen floor...  which slants a
> bit.. tried Not to fall (usually a bad idea) and the chair threw me like a
> mechanical bull at a Texas bar...
> I only  slightly exagerate for color... sprained my lower back, hit the back
> of my head on the kitchen sink this was Friday night a week ago...
>
> I piled an icepack on my goose egg and another on my back ... No broken
> bones... I checked on line that the area of my head that got bumped was a
> pretty low candidate to cause a concussion (about 4 inches above the top of
> my left ear.)  Ice wsa applied for about 3 hours to both areas, a lot of
> words with friends ws played and the serious news of the day ignored.  Head
> wasn not very hurt and swelling went down quickly  - but the way I twisted
> my back was giving me a lot of pain.  two Naproxin Sodium pills were
> swallowed - I normally onlly take one if I hurt say 5 or 6 on a scale of
> 10.. this was like 15 on a scale of 1 -10.
>
> Then I called a friend who I knew I wouldnt impose on by crying and bitching
> to him, because he lives north of Boston, is wonderful at "there, there" and
> pretty savvy medically... and another friend in NY who is too imobile for
> his own problems to be able to come help.
>
> saturday I applied heat - I had some stuff here and a friend and neighbor
> fetched more..  got out with a cane on MOnday with some difficulty.. staye
> in for the worst weather on Tuesday, walked again on Wed, and each day
> after...
>
> getting out of bed was intense .. the layered foam was too squishy... again,
> helpful hands helped me remove a layer and roll it up in both my main bed
> and the office twin...
>
> Last night was the first night I could get out of bed with only moderate
> pain and today I walked about 1/2 a mile without cane...
>
> It was just so annoying because I had lost weight, had gotten a lovely check
> up in December , hardly felt the knee arthritis and was in full get things
> accomplished mode.
>
> Also had some weird stuff witht he computer but that seems to have been
> nothing.. ..
>
> It will surely be a month or so before I'm really right again, as long as I
> don't get too cocky and think I'm in better shape than I am... glad it
> didn't require
> hospitals or doctors or the like...
>
> There, theres appreciated.
>
> thanks for reading the rant
>
> ann
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>>>it might not alleviate physical pain, but it's good for the soul.
>>
>>In case you were wondering, fish soup isn't good for the sole.
>
>Well you've really put your foot in it there.

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Steve Cottrell wrote:

>On 5/2/17, John, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>>You can add my "there, there" to the list. Don't forget chicken soup. It
>>might not alleviate physical pain, but it's good for the soul.
>
>In case you were wondering, fish soup isn't good for the sole.

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[Boris Liberman]

Ann, please recover quickly and completely. My mother recently fell
and fractured/broke a bone just above the left eye. Fortunately, it
was very minor and she's fully recovered by now. So, please don't
compete with her :-).

Seriously however, it seems you're recovering well. Please keep it that way.

Bors

On Sun, Feb 5, 2017 at 12:01 AM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> Last Friday I found the perfect way to clear my brain from the elephant in
> the room ...
>
> I fell off of a wheely chair (office chair in my kitchen ) - The chair has
> been tossed out.. it was not well balanced, and I was jsut sitting on it and
> leaned forward to pick something up off the kitchen floor...  which slants a
> bit.. tried Not to fall (usually a bad idea) and the chair threw me like a
> mechanical bull at a Texas bar...
> I only  slightly exagerate for color... sprained my lower back, hit the back
> of my head on the kitchen sink this was Friday night a week ago...
>
> I piled an icepack on my goose egg and another on my back ... No broken
> bones... I checked on line that the area of my head that got bumped was a
> pretty low candidate to cause a concussion (about 4 inches above the top of
> my left ear.)  Ice wsa applied for about 3 hours to both areas, a lot of
> words with friends ws played and the serious news of the day ignored.  Head
> wasn not very hurt and swelling went down quickly  - but the way I twisted
> my back was giving me a lot of pain.  two Naproxin Sodium pills were
> swallowed - I normally onlly take one if I hurt say 5 or 6 on a scale of
> 10.. this was like 15 on a scale of 1 -10.
>
> Then I called a friend who I knew I wouldnt impose on by crying and bitching
> to him, because he lives north of Boston, is wonderful at "there, there" and
> pretty savvy medically... and another friend in NY who is too imobile for
> his own problems to be able to come help.
>
> saturday I applied heat - I had some stuff here and a friend and neighbor
> fetched more..  got out with a cane on MOnday with some difficulty.. staye
> in for the worst weather on Tuesday, walked again on Wed, and each day
> after...
>
> getting out of bed was intense .. the layered foam was too squishy... again,
> helpful hands helped me remove a layer and roll it up in both my main bed
> and the office twin...
>
> Last night was the first night I could get out of bed with only moderate
> pain and today I walked about 1/2 a mile without cane...
>
> It was just so annoying because I had lost weight, had gotten a lovely check
> up in December , hardly felt the knee arthritis and was in full get things
> accomplished mode.
>
> Also had some weird stuff witht he computer but that seems to have been
> nothing.. ..
>
> It will surely be a month or so before I'm really right again, as long as I
> don't get too cocky and think I'm in better shape than I am... glad it
> didn't require
> hospitals or doctors or the like...
>
> There, theres appreciated.
>
> thanks for reading the rant
>
> ann
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On 5/2/17, John, discombobulated, unleashed:

>You can add my "there, there" to the list. Don't forget chicken soup. It
>might not alleviate physical pain, but it's good for the soul.

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[John]

You can add my "there, there" to the list. Don't forget chicken soup. It
might not alleviate physical pain, but it's good for the soul.

Don't feel too bad about it either. Those office chairs with wheels are
really unstable, especially if it's the older kind with only four legs
where it's easy to get your weight in between two of them.

You don't have to get very far from the center before they tip. Just a
little bit of a stretch to reach something & you're going to be on the
floor. That's why all the new office wheelie chairs have 5 or 6 legs (or
more).

I took a tumble back in December. Tripped over my own feet trying not to
step on the cat. Ended up slamming backwards into the dining room door
frame.

I can't take naproxen, but I can take regular aspirin or extra strength
Acetaminophen. Ice packs & heat pads and I was up and around again in a
couple of days.

On 2/4/2017 8:54 PM, ann sanfedele wrote:

I remember when you slowed down on your trip -- or you mentioning it
before...

I'm quite cautious these days when vertical... but falling off a chair?
I felt a little less rediculous when a friend told me she had nearly had
fallen off her
dining room chair twice..

ann

On 2/4/2017 7:39 PM, Brian Walters wrote:

Ouch - my long distance sympathy and good wishes for a rapid return to
full fitness.

As I get older I'm more and more careful about avoiding situations that
could cause falls.  The problem is they can occur in unlikely
situations. The last fall I had was actually in the USA - on the train
from San Francisco to Oxnard.  Got a head bump similar to yours but,
fortunately we were staying with friends for a few days so I could rest
up without the constant travelling of the previous 4 weeks.

Get well soon.


Cheers

Brian



On Sun, Feb 5, 2017, at 09:01 AM, ann sanfedele wrote:

Last Friday I found the perfect way to clear my brain from the elephant
in the room ...

I fell off of a wheely chair (office chair in my kitchen ) - The chair
has been tossed out.. it was not well balanced, and I was jsut sitting
on it and leaned forward to pick something up off the kitchen floor...
which slants a bit.. tried Not to fall (usually a bad idea) and the
chair threw me like a mechanical bull at a Texas bar...
I only  slightly exagerate for color... sprained my lower back, hit the
back of my head on the kitchen sink this was Friday night a week
ago...

I piled an icepack on my goose egg and another on my back ... No broken
bones... I checked on line that the area of my head that got bumped was
a pretty low candidate to cause a concussion (about 4 inches above the
top of my left ear.)  Ice wsa applied for about 3 hours to both areas, a
lot of words with friends ws played and the serious news of the day
ignored.  Head wasn not very hurt and swelling went down quickly  - but
the way I twisted my back was giving me a lot of pain.  two Naproxin
Sodium pills were swallowed - I normally onlly take one if I hurt say 5
or 6 on a scale of 10.. this was like 15 on a scale of 1 -10.

Then I called a friend who I knew I wouldnt impose on by crying and
bitching to him, because he lives north of Boston, is wonderful at
"there, there" and pretty savvy medically... and another friend in NY
who is too imobile for his own problems to be able to come help.

saturday I applied heat - I had some stuff here and a friend and
neighbor fetched more..  got out with a cane on MOnday with some
difficulty.. staye in for the worst weather on Tuesday, walked again on
Wed, and each day after...

getting out of bed was intense .. the layered foam was too squishy...
again, helpful hands helped me remove a layer and roll it up in both my
main bed and the office twin...

Last night was the first night I could get out of bed with only moderate
pain and today I walked about 1/2 a mile without cane...

It was just so annoying because I had lost weight, had gotten a lovely
check up in December , hardly felt the knee arthritis and was in full
get things accomplished mode.

Also had some weird stuff witht he computer but that seems to have been
nothing.. ..

It will surely be a month or so before I'm really right again, as long
as I don't get too cocky and think I'm in better shape than I am... glad
it didn't require
hospitals or doctors or the like...

There, theres appreciated.

thanks for reading the rant

ann

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[ann sanfedele]

Bulent, thanks...
felt A bit better each day... I normally walk at least a mile a day and 
my 3 flights of stairs help too. Ionly missed getting out on the first 
day and the day when it was icy out... seemed a good idea not to chance 
that :-)


ann

On 2/5/2017 10:53 AM, Bulent Celasun wrote:

Sorry to hear those Ann.
I am happy that you feel much better now.


Walking is key too - it is my physical theropy for free..

I can not agree more!
That is my miracle "drug" too.
I get depressed (even while there was nothing really, to worry about)
when I do not walk enough for a day or two.

Hope you feel alright soon.

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2017-02-05 18:48 GMT+03:00 ann sanfedele :

thanks, Christine... I applied ice -immediately- when it happened..
then I had an ice pack on it for 3 or 4 hours straight ...  since then it
has been Thermacare pads or the lower back wrap...  for an arm or knee
injury that is more related to joints and bones I've found ice the best...
but the way I damaged my lower back (read my butt and jsut above it,
essentially) the heat is the only thing that has helped aside from a modest
amount of naproxin sodium...

I always keep a soft icepack in the fridge and I have a gel pack that can be
made cold or heated in microwave too...
The very best thing was taking two or three hot baths because it ook the
pressure off - I can actually float in my tub resting my head on a bath
pillow and touching the other end of the tub with my toes...

Walking is key too - it is my physical theropy for free..  I only needed the
cane for 5 days

ann

On 2/5/2017 10:12 AM, Christine Aguila wrote:

Oh, Ann, so sorry to hear about this.  There, there.  Do take care, and
rest, and let yourself fully recover.  Geez, that sucks.  Had a bit of a
sore back last summer, and I took care to nurse it.  For the back, use ice.
I used a bag of frozen vegetables—peas.  Ice is best for sore back according
to my friend who sees a chiropractor and has a bit of a back issue.  As soon
as I started icing my back, it started to heal up right away.

Hope you have a speedy recovery.
xoxo Christine



On Feb 4, 2017, at 4:01 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:

Last Friday I found the perfect way to clear my brain from the elephant
in the room ...

I fell off of a wheely chair (office chair in my kitchen ) - The chair
has been tossed out.. it was not well balanced, and I was jsut sitting on it
and leaned forward to pick something up off the kitchen floor...  which
slants a bit.. tried Not to fall (usually a bad idea) and the chair threw me
like a mechanical bull at a Texas bar...
I only  slightly exagerate for color... sprained my lower back, hit the
back of my head on the kitchen sink this was Friday night a week ago...

I piled an icepack on my goose egg and another on my back ... No broken
bones... I checked on line that the area of my head that got bumped was a
pretty low candidate to cause a concussion (about 4 inches above the top of
my left ear.)  Ice wsa applied for about 3 hours to both areas, a lot of
words with friends ws played and the serious news of the day ignored.  Head
wasn not very hurt and swelling went down quickly  - but the way I twisted
my back was giving me a lot of pain.  two Naproxin Sodium pills were
swallowed - I normally onlly take one if I hurt say 5 or 6 on a scale of
10.. this was like 15 on a scale of 1 -10.

Then I called a friend who I knew I wouldnt impose on by crying and
bitching to him, because he lives north of Boston, is wonderful at "there,
there" and pretty savvy medically... and another friend in NY who is too
imobile for his own problems to be able to come help.

saturday I applied heat - I had some stuff here and a friend and neighbor
fetched more..  got out with a cane on MOnday with some difficulty.. staye
in for the worst weather on Tuesday, walked again on Wed, and each day
after...

getting out of bed was intense .. the layered foam was too squishy...
again, helpful hands helped me remove a layer and roll it up in both my main
bed and the office twin...

Last night was the first night I could get out of bed with only moderate
pain and today I walked about 1/2 a mile without cane...

It was just so annoying because I had lost weight, had gotten a lovely
check up in December , hardly felt the knee arthritis and was in full get
things accomplished mode.

Also had some weird stuff witht he computer but that seems to have been
nothing.. ..

It will surely be a month or so before I'm really right again, as long as
I don't get too cocky and think I'm in better shape than I am... glad it
didn't require
hospitals or doctors or the like...

There, theres appreciated.

thanks for reading the rant

ann

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Glad to hear you're OK. I assume you'll be getting back to your
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Sorry to hear those Ann.
I am happy that you feel much better now.

>Walking is key too - it is my physical theropy for free..
I can not agree more!
That is my miracle "drug" too.
I get depressed (even while there was nothing really, to worry about)
when I do not walk enough for a day or two.

Hope you feel alright soon.

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2017-02-05 18:48 GMT+03:00 ann sanfedele :
> thanks, Christine... I applied ice -immediately- when it happened..
> then I had an ice pack on it for 3 or 4 hours straight ...  since then it
> has been Thermacare pads or the lower back wrap...  for an arm or knee
> injury that is more related to joints and bones I've found ice the best...
> but the way I damaged my lower back (read my butt and jsut above it,
> essentially) the heat is the only thing that has helped aside from a modest
> amount of naproxin sodium...
>
> I always keep a soft icepack in the fridge and I have a gel pack that can be
> made cold or heated in microwave too...
> The very best thing was taking two or three hot baths because it ook the
> pressure off - I can actually float in my tub resting my head on a bath
> pillow and touching the other end of the tub with my toes...
>
> Walking is key too - it is my physical theropy for free..  I only needed the
> cane for 5 days
>
> ann
>
> On 2/5/2017 10:12 AM, Christine Aguila wrote:
>>
>> Oh, Ann, so sorry to hear about this.  There, there.  Do take care, and
>> rest, and let yourself fully recover.  Geez, that sucks.  Had a bit of a
>> sore back last summer, and I took care to nurse it.  For the back, use ice.
>> I used a bag of frozen vegetables—peas.  Ice is best for sore back according
>> to my friend who sees a chiropractor and has a bit of a back issue.  As soon
>> as I started icing my back, it started to heal up right away.
>>
>> Hope you have a speedy recovery.
>> xoxo Christine
>>
>>
>>> On Feb 4, 2017, at 4:01 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
>>>
>>> Last Friday I found the perfect way to clear my brain from the elephant
>>> in the room ...
>>>
>>> I fell off of a wheely chair (office chair in my kitchen ) - The chair
>>> has been tossed out.. it was not well balanced, and I was jsut sitting on it
>>> and leaned forward to pick something up off the kitchen floor...  which
>>> slants a bit.. tried Not to fall (usually a bad idea) and the chair threw me
>>> like a mechanical bull at a Texas bar...
>>> I only  slightly exagerate for color... sprained my lower back, hit the
>>> back of my head on the kitchen sink this was Friday night a week ago...
>>>
>>> I piled an icepack on my goose egg and another on my back ... No broken
>>> bones... I checked on line that the area of my head that got bumped was a
>>> pretty low candidate to cause a concussion (about 4 inches above the top of
>>> my left ear.)  Ice wsa applied for about 3 hours to both areas, a lot of
>>> words with friends ws played and the serious news of the day ignored.  Head
>>> wasn not very hurt and swelling went down quickly  - but the way I twisted
>>> my back was giving me a lot of pain.  two Naproxin Sodium pills were
>>> swallowed - I normally onlly take one if I hurt say 5 or 6 on a scale of
>>> 10.. this was like 15 on a scale of 1 -10.
>>>
>>> Then I called a friend who I knew I wouldnt impose on by crying and
>>> bitching to him, because he lives north of Boston, is wonderful at "there,
>>> there" and pretty savvy medically... and another friend in NY who is too
>>> imobile for his own problems to be able to come help.
>>>
>>> saturday I applied heat - I had some stuff here and a friend and neighbor
>>> fetched more..  got out with a cane on MOnday with some difficulty.. staye
>>> in for the worst weather on Tuesday, walked again on Wed, and each day
>>> after...
>>>
>>> getting out of bed was intense .. the layered foam was too squishy...
>>> again, helpful hands helped me remove a layer and roll it up in both my main
>>> bed and the office twin...
>>>
>>> Last night was the first night I could get out of bed with only moderate
>>> pain and today I walked about 1/2 a mile without cane...
>>>
>>> It was just so annoying because I had lost weight, had gotten a lovely
>>> check up in December , hardly felt the knee arthritis and was in full get
>>> things accomplished mode.
>>>
>>> Also had some weird stuff witht he computer but that seems to have been
>>> nothing.. ..
>>>
>>> It will surely be a month or so before I'm really right again, as long as
>>> I don't get too cocky and think I'm in better shape than I am... glad it
>>> didn't require
>>> hospitals or doctors or the like...
>>>
>>> There, theres appreciated.
>>>
>>> thanks for reading the rant
>>>
>>> ann
>>>
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Re: Ot; Just so you know...

[ann sanfedele]

thanks, Christine... I applied ice -immediately- when it happened..
then I had an ice pack on it for 3 or 4 hours straight ...  since then 
it has been Thermacare pads or the lower back wrap...  for an arm or 
knee injury that is more related to joints and bones I've found ice the 
best... but the way I damaged my lower back (read my butt and jsut above 
it, essentially) the heat is the only thing that has helped aside from a 
modest amount of naproxin sodium...


I always keep a soft icepack in the fridge and I have a gel pack that 
can be made cold or heated in microwave too...
The very best thing was taking two or three hot baths because it ook the 
pressure off - I can actually float in my tub resting my head on a bath 
pillow and touching the other end of the tub with my toes...


Walking is key too - it is my physical theropy for free..  I only needed 
the cane for 5 days


ann

On 2/5/2017 10:12 AM, Christine Aguila wrote:

Oh, Ann, so sorry to hear about this.  There, there.  Do take care, and rest, 
and let yourself fully recover.  Geez, that sucks.  Had a bit of a sore back 
last summer, and I took care to nurse it.  For the back, use ice.  I used a bag 
of frozen vegetables—peas.  Ice is best for sore back according to my friend 
who sees a chiropractor and has a bit of a back issue.  As soon as I started 
icing my back, it started to heal up right away.

Hope you have a speedy recovery.
xoxo Christine



On Feb 4, 2017, at 4:01 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:

Last Friday I found the perfect way to clear my brain from the elephant in the 
room ...

I fell off of a wheely chair (office chair in my kitchen ) - The chair has been 
tossed out.. it was not well balanced, and I was jsut sitting on it and leaned 
forward to pick something up off the kitchen floor...  which slants a bit.. 
tried Not to fall (usually a bad idea) and the chair threw me like a mechanical 
bull at a Texas bar...
I only  slightly exagerate for color... sprained my lower back, hit the back of 
my head on the kitchen sink this was Friday night a week ago...

I piled an icepack on my goose egg and another on my back ... No broken 
bones... I checked on line that the area of my head that got bumped was a 
pretty low candidate to cause a concussion (about 4 inches above the top of my 
left ear.)  Ice wsa applied for about 3 hours to both areas, a lot of words 
with friends ws played and the serious news of the day ignored.  Head wasn not 
very hurt and swelling went down quickly  - but the way I twisted my back was 
giving me a lot of pain.  two Naproxin Sodium pills were swallowed - I normally 
onlly take one if I hurt say 5 or 6 on a scale of 10.. this was like 15 on a 
scale of 1 -10.

Then I called a friend who I knew I wouldnt impose on by crying and bitching to him, 
because he lives north of Boston, is wonderful at "there, there" and pretty 
savvy medically... and another friend in NY who is too imobile for his own problems to be 
able to come help.

saturday I applied heat - I had some stuff here and a friend and neighbor 
fetched more..  got out with a cane on MOnday with some difficulty.. staye in 
for the worst weather on Tuesday, walked again on Wed, and each day after...

getting out of bed was intense .. the layered foam was too squishy... again, 
helpful hands helped me remove a layer and roll it up in both my main bed and 
the office twin...

Last night was the first night I could get out of bed with only moderate pain 
and today I walked about 1/2 a mile without cane...

It was just so annoying because I had lost weight, had gotten a lovely check up 
in December , hardly felt the knee arthritis and was in full get things 
accomplished mode.

Also had some weird stuff witht he computer but that seems to have been 
nothing.. ..

It will surely be a month or so before I'm really right again, as long as I 
don't get too cocky and think I'm in better shape than I am... glad it didn't 
require
hospitals or doctors or the like...

There, theres appreciated.

thanks for reading the rant

ann

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[Christine Aguila]

Oh, Ann, so sorry to hear about this.  There, there.  Do take care, and rest, 
and let yourself fully recover.  Geez, that sucks.  Had a bit of a sore back 
last summer, and I took care to nurse it.  For the back, use ice.  I used a bag 
of frozen vegetables—peas.  Ice is best for sore back according to my friend 
who sees a chiropractor and has a bit of a back issue.  As soon as I started 
icing my back, it started to heal up right away.

Hope you have a speedy recovery.
xoxo Christine


> On Feb 4, 2017, at 4:01 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> Last Friday I found the perfect way to clear my brain from the elephant in 
> the room ...
> 
> I fell off of a wheely chair (office chair in my kitchen ) - The chair has 
> been tossed out.. it was not well balanced, and I was jsut sitting on it and 
> leaned forward to pick something up off the kitchen floor...  which slants a 
> bit.. tried Not to fall (usually a bad idea) and the chair threw me like a 
> mechanical bull at a Texas bar...
> I only  slightly exagerate for color... sprained my lower back, hit the back 
> of my head on the kitchen sink this was Friday night a week ago...
> 
> I piled an icepack on my goose egg and another on my back ... No broken 
> bones... I checked on line that the area of my head that got bumped was a 
> pretty low candidate to cause a concussion (about 4 inches above the top of 
> my left ear.)  Ice wsa applied for about 3 hours to both areas, a lot of 
> words with friends ws played and the serious news of the day ignored.  Head 
> wasn not very hurt and swelling went down quickly  - but the way I twisted my 
> back was giving me a lot of pain.  two Naproxin Sodium pills were swallowed - 
> I normally onlly take one if I hurt say 5 or 6 on a scale of 10.. this was 
> like 15 on a scale of 1 -10.
> 
> Then I called a friend who I knew I wouldnt impose on by crying and bitching 
> to him, because he lives north of Boston, is wonderful at "there, there" and 
> pretty savvy medically... and another friend in NY who is too imobile for his 
> own problems to be able to come help.
> 
> saturday I applied heat - I had some stuff here and a friend and neighbor 
> fetched more..  got out with a cane on MOnday with some difficulty.. staye in 
> for the worst weather on Tuesday, walked again on Wed, and each day after...
> 
> getting out of bed was intense .. the layered foam was too squishy... again, 
> helpful hands helped me remove a layer and roll it up in both my main bed and 
> the office twin...
> 
> Last night was the first night I could get out of bed with only moderate pain 
> and today I walked about 1/2 a mile without cane...
> 
> It was just so annoying because I had lost weight, had gotten a lovely check 
> up in December , hardly felt the knee arthritis and was in full get things 
> accomplished mode.
> 
> Also had some weird stuff witht he computer but that seems to have been 
> nothing.. ..
> 
> It will surely be a month or so before I'm really right again, as long as I 
> don't get too cocky and think I'm in better shape than I am... glad it didn't 
> require
> hospitals or doctors or the like...
> 
> There, theres appreciated.
> 
> thanks for reading the rant
> 
> ann
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[ann sanfedele]

ah - so when you say you feel my pain you know what you are saying!
the chair was out of the kitchen on day one -  replaced with one from 
the living room that was better made and kept at a lower to the ground 
setting...(and I didnt even sit in that repalcement for a few days... ) 
It went out of the apartment literally as soon as my friend and neighbor 
got back into town.. from a skiing trip.. where he was also injured (!) 
yet not in a way that kept him from getting the evil chair down three 
flights of stairs and out the door.



luckily there was no upturned three pronger on my floor - ouch ouch ouch

ann


On 2/5/2017 3:32 AM, mike wilson wrote:

Thee's something about secondhand wheelie chairs.  On the same day, I was
leaning out of mine and my daughter came in to hug me.  Over we go, me landing
on an upturned three pin plug (
https://anjungsainssmkss.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/tupel08.jpg ) and
intertwined with Katy so that we couldn't move until Cath came in to help.  I
thought I had been stabbed.

So my "there, there" consists of recycling the beast with a  "This damned chair
is going _there_.  There!"


On 04 February 2017 at 22:01 ann sanfedele  wrote:


Last Friday I found the perfect way to clear my brain from the elephant
in the room ...

I fell off of a wheely chair (office chair in my kitchen ) - The chair
has been tossed out.. it was not well balanced, and I was jsut sitting
on it and leaned forward to pick something up off the kitchen floor...
which slants a bit.. tried Not to fall (usually a bad idea) and the
chair threw me like a mechanical bull at a Texas bar...
I only  slightly exagerate for color... sprained my lower back, hit the
back of my head on the kitchen sink this was Friday night a week ago...

I piled an icepack on my goose egg and another on my back ... No broken
bones... I checked on line that the area of my head that got bumped was
a pretty low candidate to cause a concussion (about 4 inches above the
top of my left ear.)  Ice wsa applied for about 3 hours to both areas, a
lot of words with friends ws played and the serious news of the day
ignored.  Head wasn not very hurt and swelling went down quickly  - but
the way I twisted my back was giving me a lot of pain.  two Naproxin
Sodium pills were swallowed - I normally onlly take one if I hurt say 5
or 6 on a scale of 10.. this was like 15 on a scale of 1 -10.

Then I called a friend who I knew I wouldnt impose on by crying and
bitching to him, because he lives north of Boston, is wonderful at
"there, there" and pretty savvy medically... and another friend in NY
who is too imobile for his own problems to be able to come help.

saturday I applied heat - I had some stuff here and a friend and
neighbor fetched more..  got out with a cane on MOnday with some
difficulty.. staye in for the worst weather on Tuesday, walked again on
Wed, and each day after...

getting out of bed was intense .. the layered foam was too squishy...
again, helpful hands helped me remove a layer and roll it up in both my
main bed and the office twin...

Last night was the first night I could get out of bed with only moderate
pain and today I walked about 1/2 a mile without cane...

It was just so annoying because I had lost weight, had gotten a lovely
check up in December , hardly felt the knee arthritis and was in full
get things accomplished mode.

Also had some weird stuff witht he computer but that seems to have been
nothing.. ..

It will surely be a month or so before I'm really right again, as long
as I don't get too cocky and think I'm in better shape than I am... glad
it didn't require
hospitals or doctors or the like...

There, theres appreciated.

thanks for reading the rant

ann

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[mike wilson]

Thee's something about secondhand wheelie chairs.  On the same day, I was
leaning out of mine and my daughter came in to hug me.  Over we go, me landing
on an upturned three pin plug (
https://anjungsainssmkss.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/tupel08.jpg ) and
intertwined with Katy so that we couldn't move until Cath came in to help.  I
thought I had been stabbed.

So my "there, there" consists of recycling the beast with a  "This damned chair
is going _there_.  There!"

> On 04 February 2017 at 22:01 ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> 
> Last Friday I found the perfect way to clear my brain from the elephant 
> in the room ...
> 
> I fell off of a wheely chair (office chair in my kitchen ) - The chair 
> has been tossed out.. it was not well balanced, and I was jsut sitting 
> on it and leaned forward to pick something up off the kitchen floor...  
> which slants a bit.. tried Not to fall (usually a bad idea) and the 
> chair threw me like a mechanical bull at a Texas bar...
> I only  slightly exagerate for color... sprained my lower back, hit the 
> back of my head on the kitchen sink this was Friday night a week ago...
> 
> I piled an icepack on my goose egg and another on my back ... No broken 
> bones... I checked on line that the area of my head that got bumped was 
> a pretty low candidate to cause a concussion (about 4 inches above the 
> top of my left ear.)  Ice wsa applied for about 3 hours to both areas, a 
> lot of words with friends ws played and the serious news of the day 
> ignored.  Head wasn not very hurt and swelling went down quickly  - but 
> the way I twisted my back was giving me a lot of pain.  two Naproxin 
> Sodium pills were swallowed - I normally onlly take one if I hurt say 5 
> or 6 on a scale of 10.. this was like 15 on a scale of 1 -10.
> 
> Then I called a friend who I knew I wouldnt impose on by crying and 
> bitching to him, because he lives north of Boston, is wonderful at 
> "there, there" and pretty savvy medically... and another friend in NY 
> who is too imobile for his own problems to be able to come help.
> 
> saturday I applied heat - I had some stuff here and a friend and 
> neighbor fetched more..  got out with a cane on MOnday with some 
> difficulty.. staye in for the worst weather on Tuesday, walked again on 
> Wed, and each day after...
> 
> getting out of bed was intense .. the layered foam was too squishy... 
> again, helpful hands helped me remove a layer and roll it up in both my 
> main bed and the office twin...
> 
> Last night was the first night I could get out of bed with only moderate 
> pain and today I walked about 1/2 a mile without cane...
> 
> It was just so annoying because I had lost weight, had gotten a lovely 
> check up in December , hardly felt the knee arthritis and was in full 
> get things accomplished mode.
> 
> Also had some weird stuff witht he computer but that seems to have been 
> nothing.. ..
> 
> It will surely be a month or so before I'm really right again, as long 
> as I don't get too cocky and think I'm in better shape than I am... glad 
> it didn't require
> hospitals or doctors or the like...
> 
> There, theres appreciated.
> 
> thanks for reading the rant
> 
> ann
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[ann sanfedele]

No, it's still grey - don't believe in dye-jobs :-)
ann

On 2/4/2017 11:21 PM, Alan C wrote:
Ann, I'm late on this. Nasty. Hope you are soon 100% again. Hasn't 
affected your grey matter.


Alan C

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Sent from my iPad


On Feb 4, 2017, at 10:29 PM, ann sanfedele <ann...@nyc.rr.com> wrote:


Stuff happens. It hurts. But what really gets to all of us are the 
signs that we may not be " in control" any longer. I fell last year. 
No clue what happened. I went next door to our rental unit, through 
the snow and ice, to check on her garage door. Then I was back home 
with a bloody head. Slip on the ice? I'll never know.


I am thankful that you seem to be recovering and are not too severely 
impacted. And I hope that your recovery doesn't bring with it an 
overly cautious approach to life. Stuff happens. Get out there and do 
what you can while you can.


And, fwiw, dear dear. Hoping for a speedy recovery!

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[ann sanfedele]

thanks, Jack -- not quite "ALL" better.. that will take time -- but lots 
to be thankful for


ann

On 2/4/2017 11:08 PM, Jack Davis wrote:

Heck!
Glad you had a tolerant, understanding, "there","there" medically adept friend.

Glad you're all better.

J


- Original Message -
From: "ann sanfedele" <ann...@nyc.rr.com>
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" <pdml@pdml.net>
Sent: Saturday, February 4, 2017 2:01:57 PM
Subject: Ot; Just so you know...

Last Friday I found the perfect way to clear my brain from the elephant
in the room ...

I fell off of a wheely chair (office chair in my kitchen ) - The chair
has been tossed out.. it was not well balanced, and I was jsut sitting
on it and leaned forward to pick something up off the kitchen floor...
which slants a bit.. tried Not to fall (usually a bad idea) and the
chair threw me like a mechanical bull at a Texas bar...
I only  slightly exagerate for color... sprained my lower back, hit the
back of my head on the kitchen sink this was Friday night a week ago...

I piled an icepack on my goose egg and another on my back ... No broken
bones... I checked on line that the area of my head that got bumped was
a pretty low candidate to cause a concussion (about 4 inches above the
top of my left ear.)  Ice wsa applied for about 3 hours to both areas, a
lot of words with friends ws played and the serious news of the day
ignored.  Head wasn not very hurt and swelling went down quickly  - but
the way I twisted my back was giving me a lot of pain.  two Naproxin
Sodium pills were swallowed - I normally onlly take one if I hurt say 5
or 6 on a scale of 10.. this was like 15 on a scale of 1 -10.

Then I called a friend who I knew I wouldnt impose on by crying and
bitching to him, because he lives north of Boston, is wonderful at
"there, there" and pretty savvy medically... and another friend in NY
who is too imobile for his own problems to be able to come help.

saturday I applied heat - I had some stuff here and a friend and
neighbor fetched more..  got out with a cane on MOnday with some
difficulty.. staye in for the worst weather on Tuesday, walked again on
Wed, and each day after...

getting out of bed was intense .. the layered foam was too squishy...
again, helpful hands helped me remove a layer and roll it up in both my
main bed and the office twin...

Last night was the first night I could get out of bed with only moderate
pain and today I walked about 1/2 a mile without cane...

It was just so annoying because I had lost weight, had gotten a lovely
check up in December , hardly felt the knee arthritis and was in full
get things accomplished mode.

Also had some weird stuff witht he computer but that seems to have been
nothing.. ..

It will surely be a month or so before I'm really right again, as long
as I don't get too cocky and think I'm in better shape than I am... glad
it didn't require
hospitals or doctors or the like...

There, theres appreciated.

thanks for reading the rant

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[Alan C]

Ann, I'm late on this. Nasty. Hope you are soon 100% again. Hasn't affected 
your grey matter.


Alan C

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Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2017 5:51 AM
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Sent from my iPad


On Feb 4, 2017, at 10:29 PM, ann sanfedele <ann...@nyc.rr.com> wrote:


Stuff happens. It hurts. But what really gets to all of us are the signs 
that we may not be " in control" any longer. I fell last year. No clue what 
happened. I went next door to our rental unit, through the snow and ice, to 
check on her garage door. Then I was back home with a bloody head. Slip on 
the ice? I'll never know.


I am thankful that you seem to be recovering and are not too severely 
impacted. And I hope that your recovery doesn't bring with it an overly 
cautious approach to life. Stuff happens. Get out there and do what you can 
while you can.


And, fwiw, dear dear. Hoping for a speedy recovery!

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[Jack Davis]

Heck!
Glad you had a tolerant, understanding, "there","there" medically adept friend.

Glad you're all better.

J


- Original Message -
From: "ann sanfedele" <ann...@nyc.rr.com>
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" <pdml@pdml.net>
Sent: Saturday, February 4, 2017 2:01:57 PM
Subject: Ot; Just so you know...

Last Friday I found the perfect way to clear my brain from the elephant 
in the room ...

I fell off of a wheely chair (office chair in my kitchen ) - The chair 
has been tossed out.. it was not well balanced, and I was jsut sitting 
on it and leaned forward to pick something up off the kitchen floor...  
which slants a bit.. tried Not to fall (usually a bad idea) and the 
chair threw me like a mechanical bull at a Texas bar...
I only  slightly exagerate for color... sprained my lower back, hit the 
back of my head on the kitchen sink this was Friday night a week ago...

I piled an icepack on my goose egg and another on my back ... No broken 
bones... I checked on line that the area of my head that got bumped was 
a pretty low candidate to cause a concussion (about 4 inches above the 
top of my left ear.)  Ice wsa applied for about 3 hours to both areas, a 
lot of words with friends ws played and the serious news of the day 
ignored.  Head wasn not very hurt and swelling went down quickly  - but 
the way I twisted my back was giving me a lot of pain.  two Naproxin 
Sodium pills were swallowed - I normally onlly take one if I hurt say 5 
or 6 on a scale of 10.. this was like 15 on a scale of 1 -10.

Then I called a friend who I knew I wouldnt impose on by crying and 
bitching to him, because he lives north of Boston, is wonderful at 
"there, there" and pretty savvy medically... and another friend in NY 
who is too imobile for his own problems to be able to come help.

saturday I applied heat - I had some stuff here and a friend and 
neighbor fetched more..  got out with a cane on MOnday with some 
difficulty.. staye in for the worst weather on Tuesday, walked again on 
Wed, and each day after...

getting out of bed was intense .. the layered foam was too squishy... 
again, helpful hands helped me remove a layer and roll it up in both my 
main bed and the office twin...

Last night was the first night I could get out of bed with only moderate 
pain and today I walked about 1/2 a mile without cane...

It was just so annoying because I had lost weight, had gotten a lovely 
check up in December , hardly felt the knee arthritis and was in full 
get things accomplished mode.

Also had some weird stuff witht he computer but that seems to have been 
nothing.. ..

It will surely be a month or so before I'm really right again, as long 
as I don't get too cocky and think I'm in better shape than I am... glad 
it didn't require
hospitals or doctors or the like...

There, theres appreciated.

thanks for reading the rant

ann

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[ann sanfedele]

Thanks for those thoughts Stan,  what you experienced sounds much worse 
to me..  when I hit my head that was far scarier than the pain was 
painful.. and the relief that I had my marbles helped getting through 
the pain


I do need to get things done... unfortunately, the immediate future has 
presented me with a sinkful of dirty dishes...


ann


On 2/4/2017 10:51 PM, Stan Halpin wrote:


Sent from my iPad


On Feb 4, 2017, at 10:29 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:

Stuff happens. It hurts. But what really gets to all of us are the signs that we may not 
be " in control" any longer. I fell last year. No clue what happened. I went 
next door to our rental unit, through the snow and ice, to check on her garage door. Then 
I was back home with a bloody head. Slip on the ice? I'll never know.

I am thankful that you seem to be recovering and are not too severely impacted. 
And I hope that your recovery doesn't bring with it an overly cautious approach 
to life. Stuff happens. Get out there and do what you can while you can.

And, fwiw, dear dear. Hoping for a speedy recovery!

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Sent from my iPad

> On Feb 4, 2017, at 10:29 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:

Stuff happens. It hurts. But what really gets to all of us are the signs that 
we may not be " in control" any longer. I fell last year. No clue what 
happened. I went next door to our rental unit, through the snow and ice, to 
check on her garage door. Then I was back home with a bloody head. Slip on the 
ice? I'll never know.

I am thankful that you seem to be recovering and are not too severely impacted. 
And I hope that your recovery doesn't bring with it an overly cautious approach 
to life. Stuff happens. Get out there and do what you can while you can.

And, fwiw, dear dear. Hoping for a speedy recovery!

stan




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[ann sanfedele]

LOL!

ann

On 2/4/2017 10:13 PM, Igor PDML-StR wrote:


Ann,

I am glad to hear you are recovering.

As for (not) thinking about the elephant... That reminded me of an old 
quote from Mikhail Bulgakov's novel "Heart of a Dog":


—If you care about your digestion, my advice is — don’t talk about 
bolshevism or medicine at table. And, god forbid — never read soviet 
newspapers before dinner.

—Hmm… But there are no other newspapers.
—In that case don’t read any at all. Do you know I once made 
thirty tests in my clinic. And what do you think? The patients who 
never read newspapers felt excellent. Those whom I specially made read 
"Pravda" all lost weight. […] And not only did they lose weight. Their 
knee reflexes were retarded, they lost appetite and exhibited general 
depression.



... PDML, on the other hand ... ;-)


Igor



Bob W-PDML Sat, 04 Feb 2017 14:12:50 -0800 wrote:

There, there! Hey, it could have been a lot worse - you could have 
spent all

that time thinking about the elephant in the room, and that's no good for
anyone's health!


Naproxen are great - I use them for gout attacks. If it's bad enough 
to warrant

naproxen, it's bad, so you have my there, theres in abundance.
B


On 4 Feb 2017, at 22:02, ann sanfedele  wrote:

Last Friday I found the perfect way to clear my brain from the 
elephant in

the room ...

I fell off of a wheely chair (office chair in my kitchen ) - The 
chair has
been tossed out.. it was not well balanced, and I was jsut sitting on 
it and
leaned forward to pick something up off the kitchen floor... which 
slants a
bit.. tried Not to fall (usually a bad idea) and the chair threw me 
like a

mechanical bull at a Texas bar...
I only  slightly exagerate for color... sprained my lower back, hit 
the back

of my head on the kitchen sink this was Friday night a week ago...






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[ann sanfedele]

copy that, on balance, Dan...


On 2/4/2017 10:11 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

Very sorry about your unfortunate accident, Ann.  My thoughts and prayers
are with you and for a quick and complete recovery.

I find the older I get, the less control I have over my balance.

You know you can always bitch and moan to us, Ann.  We will always lend
dozens -- if not hundreds -- of sympathetic ears.

Dan

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On Sat, Feb 4, 2017 at 5:01 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:


Last Friday I found the perfect way to clear my brain from the elephant in
the room ...

I fell off of a wheely chair (office chair in my kitchen ) - The chair has
been tossed out.. it was not well balanced, and I was jsut sitting on it
and leaned forward to pick something up off the kitchen floor...  which
slants a bit.. tried Not to fall (usually a bad idea) and the chair threw
me like a mechanical bull at a Texas bar...
I only  slightly exagerate for color... sprained my lower back, hit the
back of my head on the kitchen sink this was Friday night a week ago...

I piled an icepack on my goose egg and another on my back ... No broken
bones... I checked on line that the area of my head that got bumped was a
pretty low candidate to cause a concussion (about 4 inches above the top of
my left ear.)  Ice wsa applied for about 3 hours to both areas, a lot of
words with friends ws played and the serious news of the day ignored.  Head
wasn not very hurt and swelling went down quickly  - but the way I twisted
my back was giving me a lot of pain.  two Naproxin Sodium pills were
swallowed - I normally onlly take one if I hurt say 5 or 6 on a scale of
10.. this was like 15 on a scale of 1 -10.

Then I called a friend who I knew I wouldnt impose on by crying and
bitching to him, because he lives north of Boston, is wonderful at "there,
there" and pretty savvy medically... and another friend in NY who is too
imobile for his own problems to be able to come help.

saturday I applied heat - I had some stuff here and a friend and neighbor
fetched more..  got out with a cane on MOnday with some difficulty.. staye
in for the worst weather on Tuesday, walked again on Wed, and each day
after...

getting out of bed was intense .. the layered foam was too squishy...
again, helpful hands helped me remove a layer and roll it up in both my
main bed and the office twin...

Last night was the first night I could get out of bed with only moderate
pain and today I walked about 1/2 a mile without cane...

It was just so annoying because I had lost weight, had gotten a lovely
check up in December , hardly felt the knee arthritis and was in full get
things accomplished mode.

Also had some weird stuff witht he computer but that seems to have been
nothing.. ..

It will surely be a month or so before I'm really right again, as long as
I don't get too cocky and think I'm in better shape than I am... glad it
didn't require
hospitals or doctors or the like...

There, theres appreciated.

thanks for reading the rant

ann

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[Igor PDML-StR]

Ann,

I am glad to hear you are recovering.

As for (not) thinking about the elephant... That reminded me of an old 
quote from Mikhail Bulgakov's novel "Heart of a Dog":


—If you care about your digestion, my advice is — don’t talk about 
bolshevism or medicine at table. And, god forbid — never read soviet 
newspapers before dinner.

—Hmm… But there are no other newspapers.
—In that case don’t read any at all. Do you know I once made thirty 
tests in my clinic. And what do you think? The patients who never read 
newspapers felt excellent. Those whom I specially made read "Pravda" all 
lost weight. […] And not only did they lose weight. Their knee reflexes 
were retarded, they lost appetite and exhibited general depression.



... PDML, on the other hand ... ;-)


Igor



Bob W-PDML Sat, 04 Feb 2017 14:12:50 -0800 wrote:

There, there! Hey, it could have been a lot worse - you could have spent all
that time thinking about the elephant in the room, and that's no good for
anyone's health!


Naproxen are great - I use them for gout attacks. If it's bad enough to warrant
naproxen, it's bad, so you have my there, theres in abundance.
B


On 4 Feb 2017, at 22:02, ann sanfedele  wrote:

Last Friday I found the perfect way to clear my brain from the elephant in
the room ...

I fell off of a wheely chair (office chair in my kitchen ) - The chair has
been tossed out.. it was not well balanced, and I was jsut sitting on it and
leaned forward to pick something up off the kitchen floor...  which slants a
bit.. tried Not to fall (usually a bad idea) and the chair threw me like a
mechanical bull at a Texas bar...
I only  slightly exagerate for color... sprained my lower back, hit the back
of my head on the kitchen sink this was Friday night a week ago...



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[Daniel J. Matyola]

Very sorry about your unfortunate accident, Ann.  My thoughts and prayers
are with you and for a quick and complete recovery.

I find the older I get, the less control I have over my balance.

You know you can always bitch and moan to us, Ann.  We will always lend
dozens -- if not hundreds -- of sympathetic ears.

Dan

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On Sat, Feb 4, 2017 at 5:01 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:

> Last Friday I found the perfect way to clear my brain from the elephant in
> the room ...
>
> I fell off of a wheely chair (office chair in my kitchen ) - The chair has
> been tossed out.. it was not well balanced, and I was jsut sitting on it
> and leaned forward to pick something up off the kitchen floor...  which
> slants a bit.. tried Not to fall (usually a bad idea) and the chair threw
> me like a mechanical bull at a Texas bar...
> I only  slightly exagerate for color... sprained my lower back, hit the
> back of my head on the kitchen sink this was Friday night a week ago...
>
> I piled an icepack on my goose egg and another on my back ... No broken
> bones... I checked on line that the area of my head that got bumped was a
> pretty low candidate to cause a concussion (about 4 inches above the top of
> my left ear.)  Ice wsa applied for about 3 hours to both areas, a lot of
> words with friends ws played and the serious news of the day ignored.  Head
> wasn not very hurt and swelling went down quickly  - but the way I twisted
> my back was giving me a lot of pain.  two Naproxin Sodium pills were
> swallowed - I normally onlly take one if I hurt say 5 or 6 on a scale of
> 10.. this was like 15 on a scale of 1 -10.
>
> Then I called a friend who I knew I wouldnt impose on by crying and
> bitching to him, because he lives north of Boston, is wonderful at "there,
> there" and pretty savvy medically... and another friend in NY who is too
> imobile for his own problems to be able to come help.
>
> saturday I applied heat - I had some stuff here and a friend and neighbor
> fetched more..  got out with a cane on MOnday with some difficulty.. staye
> in for the worst weather on Tuesday, walked again on Wed, and each day
> after...
>
> getting out of bed was intense .. the layered foam was too squishy...
> again, helpful hands helped me remove a layer and roll it up in both my
> main bed and the office twin...
>
> Last night was the first night I could get out of bed with only moderate
> pain and today I walked about 1/2 a mile without cane...
>
> It was just so annoying because I had lost weight, had gotten a lovely
> check up in December , hardly felt the knee arthritis and was in full get
> things accomplished mode.
>
> Also had some weird stuff witht he computer but that seems to have been
> nothing.. ..
>
> It will surely be a month or so before I'm really right again, as long as
> I don't get too cocky and think I'm in better shape than I am... glad it
> didn't require
> hospitals or doctors or the like...
>
> There, theres appreciated.
>
> thanks for reading the rant
>
> ann
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Re: Ot; Just so you know...

[ann sanfedele]

thanks, Ken... that's good to know in future -  the very best relief , 
in addition to the Aleve, that I've gotten is from Thermacare heating pads

I ahve to be careful with topical stuff

ann

On 2/4/2017 9:07 PM, Ken Waller wrote:

Sorry to hear of your accident ann, mend quickly.

Ann, before I had my knees replaced, I got great relief from the pain by using 
a rub on agent 'Jointritis'. Gave me relief for many hours - highly 
recommended. just don't get it anywhere near your eyes. It's fairly expensive 
but a little went along way.


-Original Message-

From: ann sanfedele <ann...@nyc.rr.com>
Subject: Ot; Just so you know...

Last Friday I found the perfect way to clear my brain from the elephant
in the room ...

I fell off of a wheely chair (office chair in my kitchen ) - The chair
has been tossed out.. it was not well balanced, and I was jsut sitting
on it and leaned forward to pick something up off the kitchen floor...
which slants a bit.. tried Not to fall (usually a bad idea) and the
chair threw me like a mechanical bull at a Texas bar...
I only  slightly exagerate for color... sprained my lower back, hit the
back of my head on the kitchen sink this was Friday night a week ago...

I piled an icepack on my goose egg and another on my back ... No broken
bones... I checked on line that the area of my head that got bumped was
a pretty low candidate to cause a concussion (about 4 inches above the
top of my left ear.)  Ice wsa applied for about 3 hours to both areas, a
lot of words with friends ws played and the serious news of the day
ignored.  Head wasn not very hurt and swelling went down quickly  - but
the way I twisted my back was giving me a lot of pain.  two Naproxin
Sodium pills were swallowed - I normally onlly take one if I hurt say 5
or 6 on a scale of 10.. this was like 15 on a scale of 1 -10.

Then I called a friend who I knew I wouldnt impose on by crying and
bitching to him, because he lives north of Boston, is wonderful at
"there, there" and pretty savvy medically... and another friend in NY
who is too imobile for his own problems to be able to come help.

saturday I applied heat - I had some stuff here and a friend and
neighbor fetched more..  got out with a cane on MOnday with some
difficulty.. staye in for the worst weather on Tuesday, walked again on
Wed, and each day after...

getting out of bed was intense .. the layered foam was too squishy...
again, helpful hands helped me remove a layer and roll it up in both my
main bed and the office twin...

Last night was the first night I could get out of bed with only moderate
pain and today I walked about 1/2 a mile without cane...

It was just so annoying because I had lost weight, had gotten a lovely
check up in December , hardly felt the knee arthritis and was in full
get things accomplished mode.

Also had some weird stuff witht he computer but that seems to have been
nothing.. ..

It will surely be a month or so before I'm really right again, as long
as I don't get too cocky and think I'm in better shape than I am... glad
it didn't require
hospitals or doctors or the like...

There, theres appreciated.

thanks for reading the rant

ann



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[Ken Waller]

Sorry to hear of your accident ann, mend quickly.

Ann, before I had my knees replaced, I got great relief from the pain by using 
a rub on agent 'Jointritis'. Gave me relief for many hours - highly 
recommended. just don't get it anywhere near your eyes. It's fairly expensive 
but a little went along way.


-Original Message-
>From: ann sanfedele <ann...@nyc.rr.com>
>Subject: Ot; Just so you know...
>
>Last Friday I found the perfect way to clear my brain from the elephant 
>in the room ...
>
>I fell off of a wheely chair (office chair in my kitchen ) - The chair 
>has been tossed out.. it was not well balanced, and I was jsut sitting 
>on it and leaned forward to pick something up off the kitchen floor...  
>which slants a bit.. tried Not to fall (usually a bad idea) and the 
>chair threw me like a mechanical bull at a Texas bar...
>I only  slightly exagerate for color... sprained my lower back, hit the 
>back of my head on the kitchen sink this was Friday night a week ago...
>
>I piled an icepack on my goose egg and another on my back ... No broken 
>bones... I checked on line that the area of my head that got bumped was 
>a pretty low candidate to cause a concussion (about 4 inches above the 
>top of my left ear.)  Ice wsa applied for about 3 hours to both areas, a 
>lot of words with friends ws played and the serious news of the day 
>ignored.  Head wasn not very hurt and swelling went down quickly  - but 
>the way I twisted my back was giving me a lot of pain.  two Naproxin 
>Sodium pills were swallowed - I normally onlly take one if I hurt say 5 
>or 6 on a scale of 10.. this was like 15 on a scale of 1 -10.
>
>Then I called a friend who I knew I wouldnt impose on by crying and 
>bitching to him, because he lives north of Boston, is wonderful at 
>"there, there" and pretty savvy medically... and another friend in NY 
>who is too imobile for his own problems to be able to come help.
>
>saturday I applied heat - I had some stuff here and a friend and 
>neighbor fetched more..  got out with a cane on MOnday with some 
>difficulty.. staye in for the worst weather on Tuesday, walked again on 
>Wed, and each day after...
>
>getting out of bed was intense .. the layered foam was too squishy... 
>again, helpful hands helped me remove a layer and roll it up in both my 
>main bed and the office twin...
>
>Last night was the first night I could get out of bed with only moderate 
>pain and today I walked about 1/2 a mile without cane...
>
>It was just so annoying because I had lost weight, had gotten a lovely 
>check up in December , hardly felt the knee arthritis and was in full 
>get things accomplished mode.
>
>Also had some weird stuff witht he computer but that seems to have been 
>nothing.. ..
>
>It will surely be a month or so before I'm really right again, as long 
>as I don't get too cocky and think I'm in better shape than I am... glad 
>it didn't require
>hospitals or doctors or the like...
>
>There, theres appreciated.
>
>thanks for reading the rant
>
>ann

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[ann sanfedele]

:-)

On 2/4/2017 8:13 PM, Marco Alpert wrote:

There, there. Take care.

m


On Feb 4, 2017, at 2:01 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:

Last Friday I found the perfect way to clear my brain from the elephant in the 
room ...

I fell off of a wheely chair (office chair in my kitchen ) - The chair has been 
tossed out.. it was not well balanced, and I was jsut sitting on it and leaned 
forward to pick something up off the kitchen floor...  which slants a bit.. 
tried Not to fall (usually a bad idea) and the chair threw me like a mechanical 
bull at a Texas bar...
I only  slightly exagerate for color... sprained my lower back, hit the back of 
my head on the kitchen sink this was Friday night a week ago...

I piled an icepack on my goose egg and another on my back ... No broken 
bones... I checked on line that the area of my head that got bumped was a 
pretty low candidate to cause a concussion (about 4 inches above the top of my 
left ear.)  Ice wsa applied for about 3 hours to both areas, a lot of words 
with friends ws played and the serious news of the day ignored.  Head wasn not 
very hurt and swelling went down quickly  - but the way I twisted my back was 
giving me a lot of pain.  two Naproxin Sodium pills were swallowed - I normally 
onlly take one if I hurt say 5 or 6 on a scale of 10.. this was like 15 on a 
scale of 1 -10.

Then I called a friend who I knew I wouldnt impose on by crying and bitching to him, 
because he lives north of Boston, is wonderful at "there, there" and pretty 
savvy medically... and another friend in NY who is too imobile for his own problems to be 
able to come help.

saturday I applied heat - I had some stuff here and a friend and neighbor 
fetched more..  got out with a cane on MOnday with some difficulty.. staye in 
for the worst weather on Tuesday, walked again on Wed, and each day after...

getting out of bed was intense .. the layered foam was too squishy... again, 
helpful hands helped me remove a layer and roll it up in both my main bed and 
the office twin...

Last night was the first night I could get out of bed with only moderate pain 
and today I walked about 1/2 a mile without cane...

It was just so annoying because I had lost weight, had gotten a lovely check up 
in December , hardly felt the knee arthritis and was in full get things 
accomplished mode.

Also had some weird stuff witht he computer but that seems to have been 
nothing.. ..

It will surely be a month or so before I'm really right again, as long as I 
don't get too cocky and think I'm in better shape than I am... glad it didn't 
require
hospitals or doctors or the like...

There, theres appreciated.

thanks for reading the rant

ann

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[ann sanfedele]

Me too Larry - mentally I'm feeling quite good about it now

On 2/4/2017 8:05 PM, Larry Colen wrote:



ann sanfedele wrote:



It will surely be a month or so before I'm really right again, as long
as I don't get too cocky and think I'm in better shape than I am... glad
it didn't require
hospitals or doctors or the like...

There, theres appreciated.

thanks for reading the rant


I'm sorry that it happened, but very glad it wasn't worse.




ann






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Re: Ot; Just so you know...

[ann sanfedele]

I remember when you slowed down on your trip -- or you mentioning it 
before...


I'm quite cautious these days when vertical... but falling off a chair?  
I felt a little less rediculous when a friend told me she had nearly had 
fallen off her

dining room chair twice..

ann

On 2/4/2017 7:39 PM, Brian Walters wrote:

Ouch - my long distance sympathy and good wishes for a rapid return to
full fitness.

As I get older I'm more and more careful about avoiding situations that
could cause falls.  The problem is they can occur in unlikely
situations. The last fall I had was actually in the USA - on the train
from San Francisco to Oxnard.  Got a head bump similar to yours but,
fortunately we were staying with friends for a few days so I could rest
up without the constant travelling of the previous 4 weeks.

Get well soon.


Cheers

Brian



On Sun, Feb 5, 2017, at 09:01 AM, ann sanfedele wrote:

Last Friday I found the perfect way to clear my brain from the elephant
in the room ...

I fell off of a wheely chair (office chair in my kitchen ) - The chair
has been tossed out.. it was not well balanced, and I was jsut sitting
on it and leaned forward to pick something up off the kitchen floor...
which slants a bit.. tried Not to fall (usually a bad idea) and the
chair threw me like a mechanical bull at a Texas bar...
I only  slightly exagerate for color... sprained my lower back, hit the
back of my head on the kitchen sink this was Friday night a week
ago...

I piled an icepack on my goose egg and another on my back ... No broken
bones... I checked on line that the area of my head that got bumped was
a pretty low candidate to cause a concussion (about 4 inches above the
top of my left ear.)  Ice wsa applied for about 3 hours to both areas, a
lot of words with friends ws played and the serious news of the day
ignored.  Head wasn not very hurt and swelling went down quickly  - but
the way I twisted my back was giving me a lot of pain.  two Naproxin
Sodium pills were swallowed - I normally onlly take one if I hurt say 5
or 6 on a scale of 10.. this was like 15 on a scale of 1 -10.

Then I called a friend who I knew I wouldnt impose on by crying and
bitching to him, because he lives north of Boston, is wonderful at
"there, there" and pretty savvy medically... and another friend in NY
who is too imobile for his own problems to be able to come help.

saturday I applied heat - I had some stuff here and a friend and
neighbor fetched more..  got out with a cane on MOnday with some
difficulty.. staye in for the worst weather on Tuesday, walked again on
Wed, and each day after...

getting out of bed was intense .. the layered foam was too squishy...
again, helpful hands helped me remove a layer and roll it up in both my
main bed and the office twin...

Last night was the first night I could get out of bed with only moderate
pain and today I walked about 1/2 a mile without cane...

It was just so annoying because I had lost weight, had gotten a lovely
check up in December , hardly felt the knee arthritis and was in full
get things accomplished mode.

Also had some weird stuff witht he computer but that seems to have been
nothing.. ..

It will surely be a month or so before I'm really right again, as long
as I don't get too cocky and think I'm in better shape than I am... glad
it didn't require
hospitals or doctors or the like...

There, theres appreciated.

thanks for reading the rant

ann

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[ann sanfedele]

indeed... not rushing, not rushing

On 2/4/2017 6:10 PM, John Coyle wrote:

Ouch! That sounds like a really nasty week or so for you Ann, so glad you're 
beginning to feel
better: please don't rush it though, all too easy to have another fall.


John in Brisbane



-Original Message-
From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of ann sanfedele
Sent: Sunday, 5 February 2017 8:02 AM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <pdml@pdml.net>
Subject: Ot; Just so you know...

Last Friday I found the perfect way to clear my brain from the elephant in the 
room ...

I fell off of a wheely chair (office chair in my kitchen ) - The chair has been 
tossed out.. it was
not well balanced, and I was jsut sitting on it and leaned forward to pick 
something up off the
kitchen floor...
which slants a bit.. tried Not to fall (usually a bad idea) and the chair threw 
me like a mechanical
bull at a Texas bar...
I only  slightly exagerate for color... sprained my lower back, hit the back of 
my head on the
kitchen sink this was Friday night a week ago...

I piled an icepack on my goose egg and another on my back ... No broken 
bones... I checked on line
that the area of my head that got bumped was a pretty low candidate to cause a 
concussion (about 4
inches above the top of my left ear.)  Ice wsa applied for about 3 hours to 
both areas, a lot of
words with friends ws played and the serious news of the day ignored.  Head 
wasn not very hurt and
swelling went down quickly  - but the way I twisted my back was giving me a lot 
of pain.  two
Naproxin Sodium pills were swallowed - I normally onlly take one if I hurt say 
5 or 6 on a scale of
10.. this was like 15 on a scale of 1 -10.

Then I called a friend who I knew I wouldnt impose on by crying and bitching to 
him, because he
lives north of Boston, is wonderful at "there, there" and pretty savvy 
medically... and another
friend in NY who is too imobile for his own problems to be able to come help.

saturday I applied heat - I had some stuff here and a friend and neighbor 
fetched more..  got out
with a cane on MOnday with some difficulty.. staye in for the worst weather on 
Tuesday, walked again
on Wed, and each day after...

getting out of bed was intense .. the layered foam was too squishy...
again, helpful hands helped me remove a layer and roll it up in both my main 
bed and the office
twin...

Last night was the first night I could get out of bed with only moderate pain 
and today I walked
about 1/2 a mile without cane...

It was just so annoying because I had lost weight, had gotten a lovely check up 
in December , hardly
felt the knee arthritis and was in full get things accomplished mode.

Also had some weird stuff witht he computer but that seems to have been 
nothing.. ..

It will surely be a month or so before I'm really right again, as long as I 
don't get too cocky and
think I'm in better shape than I am... glad it didn't require hospitals or 
doctors or the like...

There, theres appreciated.

thanks for reading the rant

ann

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[ann sanfedele]

aw that's very sweet... you'd have regretted the nurse bit pretty soon I 
wager :-)


ann

On 2/4/2017 6:51 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

There, there, my friend. Wish I had been there to minister to you. Hope you're 
fully heal d soon!

Paul via phone


On Feb 4, 2017, at 5:01 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:

Last Friday I found the perfect way to clear my brain from the elephant in the 
room ...

I fell off of a wheely chair (office chair in my kitchen ) - The chair has been 
tossed out.. it was not well balanced, and I was jsut sitting on it and leaned 
forward to pick something up off the kitchen floor...  which slants a bit.. 
tried Not to fall (usually a bad idea) and the chair threw me like a mechanical 
bull at a Texas bar...
I only  slightly exagerate for color... sprained my lower back, hit the back of 
my head on the kitchen sink this was Friday night a week ago...

I piled an icepack on my goose egg and another on my back ... No broken 
bones... I checked on line that the area of my head that got bumped was a 
pretty low candidate to cause a concussion (about 4 inches above the top of my 
left ear.)  Ice wsa applied for about 3 hours to both areas, a lot of words 
with friends ws played and the serious news of the day ignored.  Head wasn not 
very hurt and swelling went down quickly  - but the way I twisted my back was 
giving me a lot of pain.  two Naproxin Sodium pills were swallowed - I normally 
onlly take one if I hurt say 5 or 6 on a scale of 10.. this was like 15 on a 
scale of 1 -10.

Then I called a friend who I knew I wouldnt impose on by crying and bitching to him, 
because he lives north of Boston, is wonderful at "there, there" and pretty 
savvy medically... and another friend in NY who is too imobile for his own problems to be 
able to come help.

saturday I applied heat - I had some stuff here and a friend and neighbor 
fetched more..  got out with a cane on MOnday with some difficulty.. staye in 
for the worst weather on Tuesday, walked again on Wed, and each day after...

getting out of bed was intense .. the layered foam was too squishy... again, 
helpful hands helped me remove a layer and roll it up in both my main bed and 
the office twin...

Last night was the first night I could get out of bed with only moderate pain 
and today I walked about 1/2 a mile without cane...

It was just so annoying because I had lost weight, had gotten a lovely check up 
in December , hardly felt the knee arthritis and was in full get things 
accomplished mode.

Also had some weird stuff witht he computer but that seems to have been 
nothing.. ..

It will surely be a month or so before I'm really right again, as long as I 
don't get too cocky and think I'm in better shape than I am... glad it didn't 
require
hospitals or doctors or the like...

There, theres appreciated.

thanks for reading the rant

ann

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Re: Ot; Just so you know...

[ann sanfedele]

thanks, cotty

I write on the blackboard dutifully - it will take time, don't think you 
are all better before you really are ...


a

On 2/4/2017 7:17 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote:

On 4/2/17, ann sanfedele, discombobulated, unleashed:


There, theres appreciated.

There there xxx

Injuries take that little bit longer to heal - and I'm not even 60 yet!!






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[ann sanfedele]

Appreciate that a lot, B - the validation of the Naproxen choice a 
bonus... :-)


On 2/4/2017 5:11 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote:

There, there! Hey, it could have been a lot worse - you could have spent all 
that time thinking about the elephant in the room, and that's no good for 
anyone's health!

Naproxen are great - I use them for gout attacks. If it's bad enough to warrant 
naproxen, it's bad, so you have my there, theres in abundance.
B


On 4 Feb 2017, at 22:02, ann sanfedele  wrote:

Last Friday I found the perfect way to clear my brain from the elephant in the 
room ...

I fell off of a wheely chair (office chair in my kitchen ) - The chair has been 
tossed out.. it was not well balanced, and I was jsut sitting on it and leaned 
forward to pick something up off the kitchen floor...  which slants a bit.. 
tried Not to fall (usually a bad idea) and the chair threw me like a mechanical 
bull at a Texas bar...
I only  slightly exagerate for color... sprained my lower back, hit the back of 
my head on the kitchen sink this was Friday night a week ago...

I piled an icepack on my goose egg and another on my back ... No broken 
bones... I checked on line that the area of my head that got bumped was a 
pretty low candidate to cause a concussion (about 4 inches above the top of my 
left ear.)  Ice wsa applied for about 3 hours to both areas, a lot of words 
with friends ws played and the serious news of the day ignored.  Head wasn not 
very hurt and swelling went down quickly  - but the way I twisted my back was 
giving me a lot of pain.  two Naproxin Sodium pills were swallowed - I normally 
onlly take one if I hurt say 5 or 6 on a scale of 10.. this was like 15 on a 
scale of 1 -10.

Then I called a friend who I knew I wouldnt impose on by crying and bitching to him, 
because he lives north of Boston, is wonderful at "there, there" and pretty 
savvy medically... and another friend in NY who is too imobile for his own problems to be 
able to come help.

saturday I applied heat - I had some stuff here and a friend and neighbor 
fetched more..  got out with a cane on MOnday with some difficulty.. staye in 
for the worst weather on Tuesday, walked again on Wed, and each day after...

getting out of bed was intense .. the layered foam was too squishy... again, 
helpful hands helped me remove a layer and roll it up in both my main bed and 
the office twin...

Last night was the first night I could get out of bed with only moderate pain 
and today I walked about 1/2 a mile without cane...

It was just so annoying because I had lost weight, had gotten a lovely check up 
in December , hardly felt the knee arthritis and was in full get things 
accomplished mode.

Also had some weird stuff witht he computer but that seems to have been 
nothing.. ..

It will surely be a month or so before I'm really right again, as long as I 
don't get too cocky and think I'm in better shape than I am... glad it didn't 
require
hospitals or doctors or the like...

There, theres appreciated.

thanks for reading the rant

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Re: Ot; Just so you know...

[Marco Alpert]

There, there. Take care.

m

> On Feb 4, 2017, at 2:01 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> Last Friday I found the perfect way to clear my brain from the elephant in 
> the room ...
> 
> I fell off of a wheely chair (office chair in my kitchen ) - The chair has 
> been tossed out.. it was not well balanced, and I was jsut sitting on it and 
> leaned forward to pick something up off the kitchen floor...  which slants a 
> bit.. tried Not to fall (usually a bad idea) and the chair threw me like a 
> mechanical bull at a Texas bar...
> I only  slightly exagerate for color... sprained my lower back, hit the back 
> of my head on the kitchen sink this was Friday night a week ago...
> 
> I piled an icepack on my goose egg and another on my back ... No broken 
> bones... I checked on line that the area of my head that got bumped was a 
> pretty low candidate to cause a concussion (about 4 inches above the top of 
> my left ear.)  Ice wsa applied for about 3 hours to both areas, a lot of 
> words with friends ws played and the serious news of the day ignored.  Head 
> wasn not very hurt and swelling went down quickly  - but the way I twisted my 
> back was giving me a lot of pain.  two Naproxin Sodium pills were swallowed - 
> I normally onlly take one if I hurt say 5 or 6 on a scale of 10.. this was 
> like 15 on a scale of 1 -10.
> 
> Then I called a friend who I knew I wouldnt impose on by crying and bitching 
> to him, because he lives north of Boston, is wonderful at "there, there" and 
> pretty savvy medically... and another friend in NY who is too imobile for his 
> own problems to be able to come help.
> 
> saturday I applied heat - I had some stuff here and a friend and neighbor 
> fetched more..  got out with a cane on MOnday with some difficulty.. staye in 
> for the worst weather on Tuesday, walked again on Wed, and each day after...
> 
> getting out of bed was intense .. the layered foam was too squishy... again, 
> helpful hands helped me remove a layer and roll it up in both my main bed and 
> the office twin...
> 
> Last night was the first night I could get out of bed with only moderate pain 
> and today I walked about 1/2 a mile without cane...
> 
> It was just so annoying because I had lost weight, had gotten a lovely check 
> up in December , hardly felt the knee arthritis and was in full get things 
> accomplished mode.
> 
> Also had some weird stuff witht he computer but that seems to have been 
> nothing.. ..
> 
> It will surely be a month or so before I'm really right again, as long as I 
> don't get too cocky and think I'm in better shape than I am... glad it didn't 
> require
> hospitals or doctors or the like...
> 
> There, theres appreciated.
> 
> thanks for reading the rant
> 
> ann
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Re: Ot; Just so you know...

[Larry Colen]

ann sanfedele wrote:



It will surely be a month or so before I'm really right again, as long
as I don't get too cocky and think I'm in better shape than I am... glad
it didn't require
hospitals or doctors or the like...

There, theres appreciated.

thanks for reading the rant


I'm sorry that it happened, but very glad it wasn't worse.




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Re: Ot; Just so you know...

[Brian Walters]

Ouch - my long distance sympathy and good wishes for a rapid return to
full fitness.

As I get older I'm more and more careful about avoiding situations that
could cause falls.  The problem is they can occur in unlikely
situations. The last fall I had was actually in the USA - on the train
from San Francisco to Oxnard.  Got a head bump similar to yours but,
fortunately we were staying with friends for a few days so I could rest
up without the constant travelling of the previous 4 weeks.

Get well soon.


Cheers

Brian



On Sun, Feb 5, 2017, at 09:01 AM, ann sanfedele wrote:
> Last Friday I found the perfect way to clear my brain from the elephant 
> in the room ...
> 
> I fell off of a wheely chair (office chair in my kitchen ) - The chair 
> has been tossed out.. it was not well balanced, and I was jsut sitting 
> on it and leaned forward to pick something up off the kitchen floor...  
> which slants a bit.. tried Not to fall (usually a bad idea) and the 
> chair threw me like a mechanical bull at a Texas bar...
> I only  slightly exagerate for color... sprained my lower back, hit the 
> back of my head on the kitchen sink this was Friday night a week
> ago...
> 
> I piled an icepack on my goose egg and another on my back ... No broken 
> bones... I checked on line that the area of my head that got bumped was 
> a pretty low candidate to cause a concussion (about 4 inches above the 
> top of my left ear.)  Ice wsa applied for about 3 hours to both areas, a 
> lot of words with friends ws played and the serious news of the day 
> ignored.  Head wasn not very hurt and swelling went down quickly  - but 
> the way I twisted my back was giving me a lot of pain.  two Naproxin 
> Sodium pills were swallowed - I normally onlly take one if I hurt say 5 
> or 6 on a scale of 10.. this was like 15 on a scale of 1 -10.
> 
> Then I called a friend who I knew I wouldnt impose on by crying and 
> bitching to him, because he lives north of Boston, is wonderful at 
> "there, there" and pretty savvy medically... and another friend in NY 
> who is too imobile for his own problems to be able to come help.
> 
> saturday I applied heat - I had some stuff here and a friend and 
> neighbor fetched more..  got out with a cane on MOnday with some 
> difficulty.. staye in for the worst weather on Tuesday, walked again on 
> Wed, and each day after...
> 
> getting out of bed was intense .. the layered foam was too squishy... 
> again, helpful hands helped me remove a layer and roll it up in both my 
> main bed and the office twin...
> 
> Last night was the first night I could get out of bed with only moderate 
> pain and today I walked about 1/2 a mile without cane...
> 
> It was just so annoying because I had lost weight, had gotten a lovely 
> check up in December , hardly felt the knee arthritis and was in full 
> get things accomplished mode.
> 
> Also had some weird stuff witht he computer but that seems to have been 
> nothing.. ..
> 
> It will surely be a month or so before I'm really right again, as long 
> as I don't get too cocky and think I'm in better shape than I am... glad 
> it didn't require
> hospitals or doctors or the like...
> 
> There, theres appreciated.
> 
> thanks for reading the rant
> 
> ann
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[Steve Cottrell]

On 4/2/17, ann sanfedele, discombobulated, unleashed:

>There, theres appreciated.

There there xxx

Injuries take that little bit longer to heal - and I'm not even 60 yet!!



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[Paul Stenquist]

There, there, my friend. Wish I had been there to minister to you. Hope you're 
fully heal d soon!

Paul via phone

> On Feb 4, 2017, at 5:01 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> Last Friday I found the perfect way to clear my brain from the elephant in 
> the room ...
> 
> I fell off of a wheely chair (office chair in my kitchen ) - The chair has 
> been tossed out.. it was not well balanced, and I was jsut sitting on it and 
> leaned forward to pick something up off the kitchen floor...  which slants a 
> bit.. tried Not to fall (usually a bad idea) and the chair threw me like a 
> mechanical bull at a Texas bar...
> I only  slightly exagerate for color... sprained my lower back, hit the back 
> of my head on the kitchen sink this was Friday night a week ago...
> 
> I piled an icepack on my goose egg and another on my back ... No broken 
> bones... I checked on line that the area of my head that got bumped was a 
> pretty low candidate to cause a concussion (about 4 inches above the top of 
> my left ear.)  Ice wsa applied for about 3 hours to both areas, a lot of 
> words with friends ws played and the serious news of the day ignored.  Head 
> wasn not very hurt and swelling went down quickly  - but the way I twisted my 
> back was giving me a lot of pain.  two Naproxin Sodium pills were swallowed - 
> I normally onlly take one if I hurt say 5 or 6 on a scale of 10.. this was 
> like 15 on a scale of 1 -10.
> 
> Then I called a friend who I knew I wouldnt impose on by crying and bitching 
> to him, because he lives north of Boston, is wonderful at "there, there" and 
> pretty savvy medically... and another friend in NY who is too imobile for his 
> own problems to be able to come help.
> 
> saturday I applied heat - I had some stuff here and a friend and neighbor 
> fetched more..  got out with a cane on MOnday with some difficulty.. staye in 
> for the worst weather on Tuesday, walked again on Wed, and each day after...
> 
> getting out of bed was intense .. the layered foam was too squishy... again, 
> helpful hands helped me remove a layer and roll it up in both my main bed and 
> the office twin...
> 
> Last night was the first night I could get out of bed with only moderate pain 
> and today I walked about 1/2 a mile without cane...
> 
> It was just so annoying because I had lost weight, had gotten a lovely check 
> up in December , hardly felt the knee arthritis and was in full get things 
> accomplished mode.
> 
> Also had some weird stuff witht he computer but that seems to have been 
> nothing.. ..
> 
> It will surely be a month or so before I'm really right again, as long as I 
> don't get too cocky and think I'm in better shape than I am... glad it didn't 
> require
> hospitals or doctors or the like...
> 
> There, theres appreciated.
> 
> thanks for reading the rant
> 
> ann
> 
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[John Coyle]

Ouch! That sounds like a really nasty week or so for you Ann, so glad you're 
beginning to feel
better: please don't rush it though, all too easy to have another fall.


John in Brisbane



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Subject: Ot; Just so you know...

Last Friday I found the perfect way to clear my brain from the elephant in the 
room ...

I fell off of a wheely chair (office chair in my kitchen ) - The chair has been 
tossed out.. it was
not well balanced, and I was jsut sitting on it and leaned forward to pick 
something up off the
kitchen floor...  
which slants a bit.. tried Not to fall (usually a bad idea) and the chair threw 
me like a mechanical
bull at a Texas bar...
I only  slightly exagerate for color... sprained my lower back, hit the back of 
my head on the
kitchen sink this was Friday night a week ago...

I piled an icepack on my goose egg and another on my back ... No broken 
bones... I checked on line
that the area of my head that got bumped was a pretty low candidate to cause a 
concussion (about 4
inches above the top of my left ear.)  Ice wsa applied for about 3 hours to 
both areas, a lot of
words with friends ws played and the serious news of the day ignored.  Head 
wasn not very hurt and
swelling went down quickly  - but the way I twisted my back was giving me a lot 
of pain.  two
Naproxin Sodium pills were swallowed - I normally onlly take one if I hurt say 
5 or 6 on a scale of
10.. this was like 15 on a scale of 1 -10.

Then I called a friend who I knew I wouldnt impose on by crying and bitching to 
him, because he
lives north of Boston, is wonderful at "there, there" and pretty savvy 
medically... and another
friend in NY who is too imobile for his own problems to be able to come help.

saturday I applied heat - I had some stuff here and a friend and neighbor 
fetched more..  got out
with a cane on MOnday with some difficulty.. staye in for the worst weather on 
Tuesday, walked again
on Wed, and each day after...

getting out of bed was intense .. the layered foam was too squishy... 
again, helpful hands helped me remove a layer and roll it up in both my main 
bed and the office
twin...

Last night was the first night I could get out of bed with only moderate pain 
and today I walked
about 1/2 a mile without cane...

It was just so annoying because I had lost weight, had gotten a lovely check up 
in December , hardly
felt the knee arthritis and was in full get things accomplished mode.

Also had some weird stuff witht he computer but that seems to have been 
nothing.. ..

It will surely be a month or so before I'm really right again, as long as I 
don't get too cocky and
think I'm in better shape than I am... glad it didn't require hospitals or 
doctors or the like...

There, theres appreciated.

thanks for reading the rant

ann

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[Bob W-PDML]

There, there! Hey, it could have been a lot worse - you could have spent all 
that time thinking about the elephant in the room, and that's no good for 
anyone's health!

Naproxen are great - I use them for gout attacks. If it's bad enough to warrant 
naproxen, it's bad, so you have my there, theres in abundance.
B

> On 4 Feb 2017, at 22:02, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> Last Friday I found the perfect way to clear my brain from the elephant in 
> the room ...
> 
> I fell off of a wheely chair (office chair in my kitchen ) - The chair has 
> been tossed out.. it was not well balanced, and I was jsut sitting on it and 
> leaned forward to pick something up off the kitchen floor...  which slants a 
> bit.. tried Not to fall (usually a bad idea) and the chair threw me like a 
> mechanical bull at a Texas bar...
> I only  slightly exagerate for color... sprained my lower back, hit the back 
> of my head on the kitchen sink this was Friday night a week ago...
> 
> I piled an icepack on my goose egg and another on my back ... No broken 
> bones... I checked on line that the area of my head that got bumped was a 
> pretty low candidate to cause a concussion (about 4 inches above the top of 
> my left ear.)  Ice wsa applied for about 3 hours to both areas, a lot of 
> words with friends ws played and the serious news of the day ignored.  Head 
> wasn not very hurt and swelling went down quickly  - but the way I twisted my 
> back was giving me a lot of pain.  two Naproxin Sodium pills were swallowed - 
> I normally onlly take one if I hurt say 5 or 6 on a scale of 10.. this was 
> like 15 on a scale of 1 -10.
> 
> Then I called a friend who I knew I wouldnt impose on by crying and bitching 
> to him, because he lives north of Boston, is wonderful at "there, there" and 
> pretty savvy medically... and another friend in NY who is too imobile for his 
> own problems to be able to come help.
> 
> saturday I applied heat - I had some stuff here and a friend and neighbor 
> fetched more..  got out with a cane on MOnday with some difficulty.. staye in 
> for the worst weather on Tuesday, walked again on Wed, and each day after...
> 
> getting out of bed was intense .. the layered foam was too squishy... again, 
> helpful hands helped me remove a layer and roll it up in both my main bed and 
> the office twin...
> 
> Last night was the first night I could get out of bed with only moderate pain 
> and today I walked about 1/2 a mile without cane...
> 
> It was just so annoying because I had lost weight, had gotten a lovely check 
> up in December , hardly felt the knee arthritis and was in full get things 
> accomplished mode.
> 
> Also had some weird stuff witht he computer but that seems to have been 
> nothing.. ..
> 
> It will surely be a month or so before I'm really right again, as long as I 
> don't get too cocky and think I'm in better shape than I am... glad it didn't 
> require
> hospitals or doctors or the like...
> 
> There, theres appreciated.
> 
> thanks for reading the rant
> 
> ann
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Ot; Just so you know...

[ann sanfedele]

Last Friday I found the perfect way to clear my brain from the elephant 
in the room ...


I fell off of a wheely chair (office chair in my kitchen ) - The chair 
has been tossed out.. it was not well balanced, and I was jsut sitting 
on it and leaned forward to pick something up off the kitchen floor...  
which slants a bit.. tried Not to fall (usually a bad idea) and the 
chair threw me like a mechanical bull at a Texas bar...
I only  slightly exagerate for color... sprained my lower back, hit the 
back of my head on the kitchen sink this was Friday night a week ago...


I piled an icepack on my goose egg and another on my back ... No broken 
bones... I checked on line that the area of my head that got bumped was 
a pretty low candidate to cause a concussion (about 4 inches above the 
top of my left ear.)  Ice wsa applied for about 3 hours to both areas, a 
lot of words with friends ws played and the serious news of the day 
ignored.  Head wasn not very hurt and swelling went down quickly  - but 
the way I twisted my back was giving me a lot of pain.  two Naproxin 
Sodium pills were swallowed - I normally onlly take one if I hurt say 5 
or 6 on a scale of 10.. this was like 15 on a scale of 1 -10.


Then I called a friend who I knew I wouldnt impose on by crying and 
bitching to him, because he lives north of Boston, is wonderful at 
"there, there" and pretty savvy medically... and another friend in NY 
who is too imobile for his own problems to be able to come help.


saturday I applied heat - I had some stuff here and a friend and 
neighbor fetched more..  got out with a cane on MOnday with some 
difficulty.. staye in for the worst weather on Tuesday, walked again on 
Wed, and each day after...


getting out of bed was intense .. the layered foam was too squishy... 
again, helpful hands helped me remove a layer and roll it up in both my 
main bed and the office twin...


Last night was the first night I could get out of bed with only moderate 
pain and today I walked about 1/2 a mile without cane...


It was just so annoying because I had lost weight, had gotten a lovely 
check up in December , hardly felt the knee arthritis and was in full 
get things accomplished mode.


Also had some weird stuff witht he computer but that seems to have been 
nothing.. ..


It will surely be a month or so before I'm really right again, as long 
as I don't get too cocky and think I'm in better shape than I am... glad 
it didn't require

hospitals or doctors or the like...

There, theres appreciated.

thanks for reading the rant

ann

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