Re: P30 vs. Super program (Super A)?
The exposure comp. detents may be 'only' at full stops, but they're not very strongly detented, or sprung towards the detents. It's very easy to set them at any intermediate point to get fractional stops of compensation. regards, Anthony Farr - Original Message - From: Lon Williamson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Exposure compensation detents are full stops. (snip)
Re: P30 vs. Super program (Super A)?
I've had both of my SuperPrograms tested by the local crusty old repair guy. Synch on both is very close to 1/90th. I posted to PDML about this once upon a time and got a fair amount of confirmation from other folks around here. -Lon Alan Chan wrote: Pentax lied about synch speed. It's 1/90th. But how did you tested it out? regards, Alan Chan _ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
Re: P30 vs. Super program (Super A)?
I've posted about this separately, but it bears re-asking. Do you refer to the speed of the X-position of the mode dial, or the speed when the shutter-speed selector is on 1/125sec? I would frequently use that setting if I wanted to mix TTL ambient and OTF-flash metering (the X-position is unmetered, OTF flash is always on depending on the flash unit connected). I never got half-framing. The X-position isn't a battery-less position, unlike the ME Super AFAIK, so the reason for this is beyond my ken, but if I had to guess then I'd say that 1/125sec doesn't have enough 'dwell' (to steal a motoring term) to permit slower electronic flashes. For instance my Metz 60CT-1 has full power duration of 1/400sec, and the big Hensel 3200 and 600 joule packs I formerly used burned for about 1/100sec at high powers (requiring 1/60sec or longer). regards, Anthony Farr - Original Message - From: Lon Williamson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 12 June 2003 8:04 PM Subject: Re: P30 vs. Super program (Super A)? I've had both of my SuperPrograms tested by the local crusty old repair guy. Synch on both is very close to 1/90th. I posted to PDML about this once upon a time and got a fair amount of confirmation from other folks around here. -Lon Alan Chan wrote: Pentax lied about synch speed. It's 1/90th. But how did you tested it out? regards, Alan Chan _ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
Re: P30 vs. Super program (Super A)?
I don't think this is the case, Anthony. The shutter speed curve has a wiggle right at 125th that happens on flash synch or on manual. To me, this is no big deal. However, someone questing for a perfect within a third stop exposure would probably have to factor it in. Anthony Farr wrote: I read this often, and yet those times that I have shot with flash at a selected 1/125sec, rather than at the X-position of the mode selector, I've never got any 'half-framing'. Perhaps the X-position is under-speed even though the camera still truly synchs at 1/125sec. regards, Anthony Farr - Original Message - From: Lon Williamson [EMAIL PROTECTED] (snip) synch is at 1/90 (although specified as 1/125) (snip)
Re: P30 vs. Super program (Super A)?
Agreed. Anthony Farr wrote: The exposure comp. detents may be 'only' at full stops, but they're not very strongly detented, or sprung towards the detents. It's very easy to set them at any intermediate point to get fractional stops of compensation. regards, Anthony Farr - Original Message - From: Lon Williamson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Exposure compensation detents are full stops. (snip)
Re: P30 vs. Super program (Super A)?
Should be Hensel 3200 and 6000 joule packs - Original Message - From: Anthony Farr [EMAIL PROTECTED] (snip) For instance my Metz 60CT-1 has full power duration of 1/400sec, and the big Hensel 3200 and 600 joule packs I formerly used burned for about 1/100sec at high powers (requiring 1/60sec or longer). regards, Anthony Farr
Re: P30 vs. Super program (Super A)?
So, just curious, how quickly do the pentax flashes fully discharge? eg, 200T, 280T, 200SA, 400T, and others? --Daniel Liu It's no longer a question of staying healthy. It's a question of finding a sickness you like. On Thursday, Jun 12, 2003, at 03:33 US/Pacific, Anthony Farr wrote: Should be Hensel 3200 and 6000 joule packs - Original Message - From: Anthony Farr [EMAIL PROTECTED] (snip) For instance my Metz 60CT-1 has full power duration of 1/400sec, and the big Hensel 3200 and 600 joule packs I formerly used burned for about 1/100sec at high powers (requiring 1/60sec or longer). regards, Anthony Farr
Re: P30 vs. Super program (Super A)?
Exposure compensation detents are full stops. Pentax lied about synch speed. It's 1/90th. That's my story, and I'm sticking to it. Got two SuperPrograms. -Lon Alan Chan wrote: 15 - 1/2000 shutter speeds, synch is at 1/90 (although specified as 1/125) ??? Exposure compensation +/- 2 EV, continuous, with detents at full stops 1/2 stops as I remember. regards, Alan Chan _ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail
Re: P30 vs. Super program (Super A)?
Here's the list of essential features on the Super A: One screen, horizontal split and microprism surround. Mechanical DOF, self timer, analogue TTL flash Program, aperature, shutter, manual modes LCD shows shutter and (sometimes) aperature Winder motor drive available (Winder is MEII) PC connector for external flash Small, removable plastic grip on front (must be removed when using winder/drive) LCD can be backlit in dim light No exposure lock 15 - 1/2000 shutter speeds, synch is at 1/90 (although specified as 1/125) Exposure compensation +/- 2 EV, continuous, with detents at full stops Jose Luis Gonzalez Martin wrote: Thanks to everybody who answered my message about my old P30 camera. Im new in the forum, and I like it a lot. Some of you recommended me to get a manual old Pentax Super Program (Super A here in Europe). Is the Super better enough to get it even having the P30? I like manual SLR, so I would go for one of them if its really worthy: there are some Super Program bodies in eBay to bid for. So, can anybody tell me the differences between both cameras? Maybe best the MZ-M (ZX-M)? Thank you! P.D.- Is the Super ME the same camera than the Super Program?
Re: P30 vs. Super program (Super A)?
No, the Super ME is an older one with aperture priority, only. That was ME. ME Super has full manual also. regards, Alan Chan _ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail
Re: P30 vs. Super program (Super A)?
15 - 1/2000 shutter speeds, synch is at 1/90 (although specified as 1/125) ??? Exposure compensation +/- 2 EV, continuous, with detents at full stops 1/2 stops as I remember. regards, Alan Chan _ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail
P30 vs. Super program (Super A)?
Thanks to everybody who answered my message about my old P30 camera. Im new in the forum, and I like it a lot. Some of you recommended me to get a manual old Pentax Super Program (Super A here in Europe). Is the Super better enough to get it even having the P30? I like manual SLR, so I would go for one of them if its really worthy: there are some Super Program bodies in eBay to bid for. So, can anybody tell me the differences between both cameras? Maybe best the MZ-M (ZX-M)? Thank you! P.D.- Is the Super ME the same camera than the Super Program?
Re: P30 vs. Super program (Super A)?
Thanks to everybody who answered my message about my old P30 camera. I´m new in the forum, and I like it a lot. Some of you recommended me to get a manual old Pentax Super Program (Super A here in Europe). Is the Super better enough to get it even having the P30? I like manual SLR, so I would go for one of them if it´s really worthy: there are some Super Program bodies in eBay to bid for. So, can anybody tell me the differences between both cameras? Maybe best the MZ-M (ZX-M)? P.D.- Is the Super ME the same camera than the Super Program? Super A is the most feature rich Pentax K mount body, and it is the best on paper. However, as Pentax have proven time and again, no camera should be too perfect. So they installed a few things to balance things out. 1) Dim coarse focus screen (worse then P50). 2) Relatively low viewfinder magnification in its era. 3) Noise mirror/shutter (worse than P50, don't even touch the Motor Drive A). 4) Too much vibration from the mirror/shutter (worse than P50). However, it is the only manual focus camera with 4 expoure modes - manual, auto, aperture priority shutter priority. It is also the only one with TTL flash beside the LX. This model is also quite reliable. Dirt self-timer shutter release button contacts are common problem on used models, but they don't require new parts to fix. The area near the semi-transparent plastic on the top plate is the weak part so don't bang on it. IMHO, if you expect super sharp images handheld, get the ME Super or MX. The Super A will disappoint you due to the mirror flip. I don't recommend MZ-M due to its poor viewfinder. regards, Alan Chan _ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963
