Re: PESO: Cardinal on Approach

2010-10-04 Thread frank theriault
On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 12:52 AM, Walter Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi all,

 This is a shot I took way back at the end of May, shortly after I got my
 K-x.  I've been tinkering with it off and on ever since and can't bring
 myself to abandon it, as it was the first in-flight bird I ever captured
 that I was somewhat proud of.  The color of the background was absolutely
 horrid in the original photo, and it was pretty noisy by K-x standards.  I
 messed with toning down the colors (it was an abhorrent mix of brown, green,
 rust, and yellow originally) until I finally decided it looked best with
 everything desaturated out, except for the red of the bird.  I'm still
 trying to deal with some ugliness on the beak, but I'm slowly getting it out
 of there.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/5045841583/
 K-x, DAL 50-200mm, f/5.6, ISO 400, 1/1250 sec

 It was shot in jpeg format, so I'm somewhat limited in my options.  And this
 is a resized (2400 pixels long-side) version after some minor cropping (I'm
 trying to stay as close to the original resolution as possible for now).
  Any tips on what I can do, aside from the cropping, to make it a more
 effective image?

 Comments, critiques, and/or relentless hectoring welcome.

Good shot, but I'd prefer to have seen the wings out.  Just doesn't
look right to me - as if he's just hanging in mid-air rather than
moving in a direction (presumably forward).

And again with the desaturation thing.  I'll comment no more on that.

;-)

I do recognize the difficulties in catching such moments at the
perfect time, so I'll still say very good shot.

cheers,
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Re: PESO: Cardinal on Approach

2010-10-04 Thread Walter Gilbert

  Thanks again, Frank.

The doesn't look right thing is actually what I like about the shot, 
and why I keep returning to it.  The overall qualities of the original 
image are extremely ugly, but I can't help wanting it to turn out well.  
I have to admit it's a sentimental attachment.


-- Walt

On 10/4/2010 3:21 PM, frank theriault wrote:

On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 12:52 AM, Walter Gilbertldott...@gmail.com  wrote:

  Hi all,

This is a shot I took way back at the end of May, shortly after I got my
K-x.  I've been tinkering with it off and on ever since and can't bring
myself to abandon it, as it was the first in-flight bird I ever captured
that I was somewhat proud of.  The color of the background was absolutely
horrid in the original photo, and it was pretty noisy by K-x standards.  I
messed with toning down the colors (it was an abhorrent mix of brown, green,
rust, and yellow originally) until I finally decided it looked best with
everything desaturated out, except for the red of the bird.  I'm still
trying to deal with some ugliness on the beak, but I'm slowly getting it out
of there.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/5045841583/
K-x, DAL 50-200mm, f/5.6, ISO 400, 1/1250 sec

It was shot in jpeg format, so I'm somewhat limited in my options.  And this
is a resized (2400 pixels long-side) version after some minor cropping (I'm
trying to stay as close to the original resolution as possible for now).
  Any tips on what I can do, aside from the cropping, to make it a more
effective image?

Comments, critiques, and/or relentless hectoring welcome.

Good shot, but I'd prefer to have seen the wings out.  Just doesn't
look right to me - as if he's just hanging in mid-air rather than
moving in a direction (presumably forward).

And again with the desaturation thing.  I'll comment no more on that.

;-)

I do recognize the difficulties in catching such moments at the
perfect time, so I'll still say very good shot.

cheers,
frank




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Re: PESO: Cardinal on Approach

2010-10-04 Thread Walter Gilbert

  Many thanks, Paul!

On 10/3/2010 1:56 PM, paul stenquist wrote:

Well done!
Paul
On Oct 3, 2010, at 2:03 PM, Walter Gilbert wrote:


  Thanks, Steven.

I really need to immerse myself in Photoshop in order to do anything 
approaching what P.J. did with that photo.  It really is nice, isn't it?

-- Walt



On 10/3/2010 10:27 AM, Steven Desjardins wrote:

I admit that I am partial tot his kind of effect if it it is done
well.  Both of these are good efforts, but the car is wonderful.

On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 2:19 AM, P. J. Allingwebstertwenty...@gmail.com   
wrote:

  Just to be annoying here's one of my efforts, I used a number of layers.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20chartreusecouperevisited%26revised.html

On 10/3/2010 2:10 AM, Walter Gilbert wrote:

   Thanks, P.J.

You're absolutely right.  I noticed the halo around the bird about ten
minutes after I'd uploaded it.  Only, I didn't use any layers.  I simply
desaturated the colors in the original.  I'll see if I can get rid of some
of that.

-- Walt

On 10/3/2010 12:54 AM, P. J. Alling wrote:

  Imitation hand coloring of BW can be effective, but you have to be
careful to avoid halos around your colored layer.  Just think of it as a
case of Less is More, unless you intended for it to look the way it does, in
which case to quote Emily Litela .  /Nevermind/.

On 10/3/2010 12:52 AM, Walter Gilbert wrote:

  Hi all,

This is a shot I took way back at the end of May, shortly after I got my
K-x.  I've been tinkering with it off and on ever since and can't bring
myself to abandon it, as it was the first in-flight bird I ever captured
that I was somewhat proud of.  The color of the background was absolutely
horrid in the original photo, and it was pretty noisy by K-x standards.  I
messed with toning down the colors (it was an abhorrent mix of brown, green,
rust, and yellow originally) until I finally decided it looked best with
everything desaturated out, except for the red of the bird.  I'm still
trying to deal with some ugliness on the beak, but I'm slowly getting it out
of there.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/5045841583/
K-x, DAL 50-200mm, f/5.6, ISO 400, 1/1250 sec

It was shot in jpeg format, so I'm somewhat limited in my options.  And
this is a resized (2400 pixels long-side) version after some minor cropping
(I'm trying to stay as close to the original resolution as possible for
now).  Any tips on what I can do, aside from the cropping, to make it a more
effective image?

Comments, critiques, and/or relentless hectoring welcome.

Best,

Walt




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Re: PESO: Cardinal on Approach

2010-10-03 Thread Walter Gilbert

   Thanks, P.J.

You're absolutely right.  I noticed the halo around the bird about ten 
minutes after I'd uploaded it.  Only, I didn't use any layers.  I simply 
desaturated the colors in the original.  I'll see if I can get rid of 
some of that.


-- Walt

On 10/3/2010 12:54 AM, P. J. Alling wrote:
 Imitation hand coloring of BW can be effective, but you have to be 
careful to avoid halos around your colored layer.  Just think of it as 
a case of Less is More, unless you intended for it to look the way it 
does, in which case to quote Emily Litela .  /Nevermind/.


On 10/3/2010 12:52 AM, Walter Gilbert wrote:

 Hi all,

This is a shot I took way back at the end of May, shortly after I got 
my K-x.  I've been tinkering with it off and on ever since and can't 
bring myself to abandon it, as it was the first in-flight bird I ever 
captured that I was somewhat proud of.  The color of the background 
was absolutely horrid in the original photo, and it was pretty noisy 
by K-x standards.  I messed with toning down the colors (it was an 
abhorrent mix of brown, green, rust, and yellow originally) until I 
finally decided it looked best with everything desaturated out, 
except for the red of the bird.  I'm still trying to deal with some 
ugliness on the beak, but I'm slowly getting it out of there.


http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/5045841583/
K-x, DAL 50-200mm, f/5.6, ISO 400, 1/1250 sec

It was shot in jpeg format, so I'm somewhat limited in my options.  
And this is a resized (2400 pixels long-side) version after some 
minor cropping (I'm trying to stay as close to the original 
resolution as possible for now).  Any tips on what I can do, aside 
from the cropping, to make it a more effective image?


Comments, critiques, and/or relentless hectoring welcome.

Best,

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Re: PESO: Cardinal on Approach

2010-10-03 Thread P. J. Alling

 Just to be annoying here's one of my efforts, I used a number of layers.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20chartreusecouperevisited%26revised.html

On 10/3/2010 2:10 AM, Walter Gilbert wrote:

   Thanks, P.J.

You're absolutely right.  I noticed the halo around the bird about ten 
minutes after I'd uploaded it.  Only, I didn't use any layers.  I 
simply desaturated the colors in the original.  I'll see if I can get 
rid of some of that.


-- Walt

On 10/3/2010 12:54 AM, P. J. Alling wrote:
 Imitation hand coloring of BW can be effective, but you have to be 
careful to avoid halos around your colored layer.  Just think of it 
as a case of Less is More, unless you intended for it to look the way 
it does, in which case to quote Emily Litela .  /Nevermind/.


On 10/3/2010 12:52 AM, Walter Gilbert wrote:

 Hi all,

This is a shot I took way back at the end of May, shortly after I 
got my K-x.  I've been tinkering with it off and on ever since and 
can't bring myself to abandon it, as it was the first in-flight bird 
I ever captured that I was somewhat proud of.  The color of the 
background was absolutely horrid in the original photo, and it was 
pretty noisy by K-x standards.  I messed with toning down the colors 
(it was an abhorrent mix of brown, green, rust, and yellow 
originally) until I finally decided it looked best with everything 
desaturated out, except for the red of the bird.  I'm still trying 
to deal with some ugliness on the beak, but I'm slowly getting it 
out of there.


http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/5045841583/
K-x, DAL 50-200mm, f/5.6, ISO 400, 1/1250 sec

It was shot in jpeg format, so I'm somewhat limited in my options.  
And this is a resized (2400 pixels long-side) version after some 
minor cropping (I'm trying to stay as close to the original 
resolution as possible for now).  Any tips on what I can do, aside 
from the cropping, to make it a more effective image?


Comments, critiques, and/or relentless hectoring welcome.

Best,

Walt












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Re: PESO: Cardinal on Approach

2010-10-03 Thread Walter Gilbert

  Wow!  Very nice work!

I have zero practical experience with layers.  I've been essentially 
flying blind ever since I got Photoshop.


One of these days, I'm going to spend some hours watching tutorials.

On 10/3/2010 1:19 AM, P. J. Alling wrote:

 Just to be annoying here's one of my efforts, I used a number of layers.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20chartreusecouperevisited%26revised.html 



On 10/3/2010 2:10 AM, Walter Gilbert wrote:

   Thanks, P.J.

You're absolutely right.  I noticed the halo around the bird about 
ten minutes after I'd uploaded it.  Only, I didn't use any layers.  I 
simply desaturated the colors in the original.  I'll see if I can get 
rid of some of that.


-- Walt

On 10/3/2010 12:54 AM, P. J. Alling wrote:
 Imitation hand coloring of BW can be effective, but you have to be 
careful to avoid halos around your colored layer.  Just think of it 
as a case of Less is More, unless you intended for it to look the 
way it does, in which case to quote Emily Litela .  /Nevermind/.


On 10/3/2010 12:52 AM, Walter Gilbert wrote:

 Hi all,

This is a shot I took way back at the end of May, shortly after I 
got my K-x.  I've been tinkering with it off and on ever since and 
can't bring myself to abandon it, as it was the first in-flight 
bird I ever captured that I was somewhat proud of.  The color of 
the background was absolutely horrid in the original photo, and it 
was pretty noisy by K-x standards.  I messed with toning down the 
colors (it was an abhorrent mix of brown, green, rust, and yellow 
originally) until I finally decided it looked best with everything 
desaturated out, except for the red of the bird.  I'm still trying 
to deal with some ugliness on the beak, but I'm slowly getting it 
out of there.


http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/5045841583/
K-x, DAL 50-200mm, f/5.6, ISO 400, 1/1250 sec

It was shot in jpeg format, so I'm somewhat limited in my options.  
And this is a resized (2400 pixels long-side) version after some 
minor cropping (I'm trying to stay as close to the original 
resolution as possible for now).  Any tips on what I can do, aside 
from the cropping, to make it a more effective image?


Comments, critiques, and/or relentless hectoring welcome.

Best,

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Re: PESO: Cardinal on Approach

2010-10-03 Thread David J Brooks
Other than being a tad dark on my laptop, good first try.

Dave

On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 12:52 AM, Walter Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi all,

 This is a shot I took way back at the end of May, shortly after I got my
 K-x.  I've been tinkering with it off and on ever since and can't bring
 myself to abandon it, as it was the first in-flight bird I ever captured
 that I was somewhat proud of.  The color of the background was absolutely
 horrid in the original photo, and it was pretty noisy by K-x standards.  I
 messed with toning down the colors (it was an abhorrent mix of brown, green,
 rust, and yellow originally) until I finally decided it looked best with
 everything desaturated out, except for the red of the bird.  I'm still
 trying to deal with some ugliness on the beak, but I'm slowly getting it out
 of there.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/5045841583/
 K-x, DAL 50-200mm, f/5.6, ISO 400, 1/1250 sec

 It was shot in jpeg format, so I'm somewhat limited in my options.  And this
 is a resized (2400 pixels long-side) version after some minor cropping (I'm
 trying to stay as close to the original resolution as possible for now).
  Any tips on what I can do, aside from the cropping, to make it a more
 effective image?

 Comments, critiques, and/or relentless hectoring welcome.

 Best,

 Walt



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Re: PESO: Cardinal on Approach

2010-10-03 Thread Steven Desjardins
I admit that I am partial tot his kind of effect if it it is done
well.  Both of these are good efforts, but the car is wonderful.

On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 2:19 AM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
  Just to be annoying here's one of my efforts, I used a number of layers.

 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20chartreusecouperevisited%26revised.html

 On 10/3/2010 2:10 AM, Walter Gilbert wrote:

   Thanks, P.J.

 You're absolutely right.  I noticed the halo around the bird about ten
 minutes after I'd uploaded it.  Only, I didn't use any layers.  I simply
 desaturated the colors in the original.  I'll see if I can get rid of some
 of that.

 -- Walt

 On 10/3/2010 12:54 AM, P. J. Alling wrote:

  Imitation hand coloring of BW can be effective, but you have to be
 careful to avoid halos around your colored layer.  Just think of it as a
 case of Less is More, unless you intended for it to look the way it does, in
 which case to quote Emily Litela .  /Nevermind/.

 On 10/3/2010 12:52 AM, Walter Gilbert wrote:

  Hi all,

 This is a shot I took way back at the end of May, shortly after I got my
 K-x.  I've been tinkering with it off and on ever since and can't bring
 myself to abandon it, as it was the first in-flight bird I ever captured
 that I was somewhat proud of.  The color of the background was absolutely
 horrid in the original photo, and it was pretty noisy by K-x standards.  I
 messed with toning down the colors (it was an abhorrent mix of brown, 
 green,
 rust, and yellow originally) until I finally decided it looked best with
 everything desaturated out, except for the red of the bird.  I'm still
 trying to deal with some ugliness on the beak, but I'm slowly getting it 
 out
 of there.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/5045841583/
 K-x, DAL 50-200mm, f/5.6, ISO 400, 1/1250 sec

 It was shot in jpeg format, so I'm somewhat limited in my options.  And
 this is a resized (2400 pixels long-side) version after some minor cropping
 (I'm trying to stay as close to the original resolution as possible for
 now).  Any tips on what I can do, aside from the cropping, to make it a 
 more
 effective image?

 Comments, critiques, and/or relentless hectoring welcome.

 Best,

 Walt









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Re: PESO: Cardinal on Approach

2010-10-03 Thread Walter Gilbert

  Thanks, Steven.

I really need to immerse myself in Photoshop in order to do anything 
approaching what P.J. did with that photo.  It really is nice, isn't it?


-- Walt



On 10/3/2010 10:27 AM, Steven Desjardins wrote:

I admit that I am partial tot his kind of effect if it it is done
well.  Both of these are good efforts, but the car is wonderful.

On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 2:19 AM, P. J. Allingwebstertwenty...@gmail.com  wrote:

  Just to be annoying here's one of my efforts, I used a number of layers.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20chartreusecouperevisited%26revised.html

On 10/3/2010 2:10 AM, Walter Gilbert wrote:

   Thanks, P.J.

You're absolutely right.  I noticed the halo around the bird about ten
minutes after I'd uploaded it.  Only, I didn't use any layers.  I simply
desaturated the colors in the original.  I'll see if I can get rid of some
of that.

-- Walt

On 10/3/2010 12:54 AM, P. J. Alling wrote:

  Imitation hand coloring of BW can be effective, but you have to be
careful to avoid halos around your colored layer.  Just think of it as a
case of Less is More, unless you intended for it to look the way it does, in
which case to quote Emily Litela .  /Nevermind/.

On 10/3/2010 12:52 AM, Walter Gilbert wrote:

  Hi all,

This is a shot I took way back at the end of May, shortly after I got my
K-x.  I've been tinkering with it off and on ever since and can't bring
myself to abandon it, as it was the first in-flight bird I ever captured
that I was somewhat proud of.  The color of the background was absolutely
horrid in the original photo, and it was pretty noisy by K-x standards.  I
messed with toning down the colors (it was an abhorrent mix of brown, green,
rust, and yellow originally) until I finally decided it looked best with
everything desaturated out, except for the red of the bird.  I'm still
trying to deal with some ugliness on the beak, but I'm slowly getting it out
of there.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/5045841583/
K-x, DAL 50-200mm, f/5.6, ISO 400, 1/1250 sec

It was shot in jpeg format, so I'm somewhat limited in my options.  And
this is a resized (2400 pixels long-side) version after some minor cropping
(I'm trying to stay as close to the original resolution as possible for
now).  Any tips on what I can do, aside from the cropping, to make it a more
effective image?

Comments, critiques, and/or relentless hectoring welcome.

Best,

Walt









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Re: PESO: Cardinal on Approach

2010-10-03 Thread Walter Gilbert

  Thanks, David.

The shot is a near-perfect expression of myself as a photographer in 
that it's very much a work in progress, and in its early stages.


The most valuable lesson I've learned from this image is that, for all 
its wonders, Photoshop can't turn a crappy photographer into a good 
one.  :-)


Best,

Walt


On 10/3/2010 6:27 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

Other than being a tad dark on my laptop, good first try.

Dave

On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 12:52 AM, Walter Gilbertldott...@gmail.com  wrote:

  Hi all,

This is a shot I took way back at the end of May, shortly after I got my
K-x.  I've been tinkering with it off and on ever since and can't bring
myself to abandon it, as it was the first in-flight bird I ever captured
that I was somewhat proud of.  The color of the background was absolutely
horrid in the original photo, and it was pretty noisy by K-x standards.  I
messed with toning down the colors (it was an abhorrent mix of brown, green,
rust, and yellow originally) until I finally decided it looked best with
everything desaturated out, except for the red of the bird.  I'm still
trying to deal with some ugliness on the beak, but I'm slowly getting it out
of there.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/5045841583/
K-x, DAL 50-200mm, f/5.6, ISO 400, 1/1250 sec

It was shot in jpeg format, so I'm somewhat limited in my options.  And this
is a resized (2400 pixels long-side) version after some minor cropping (I'm
trying to stay as close to the original resolution as possible for now).
  Any tips on what I can do, aside from the cropping, to make it a more
effective image?

Comments, critiques, and/or relentless hectoring welcome.

Best,

Walt



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Re: PESO: Cardinal on Approach

2010-10-03 Thread P. J. Alling
 Don't sell yourself short, we're all crappy photographers, some are 
just better editors.  Right now I've just deleted about 100 shots of a 
doorknob I was shooting to test out a couple of lenses.  Some were even 
good photos of a doorknob, but...


On 10/3/2010 2:07 PM, Walter Gilbert wrote:

  Thanks, David.

The shot is a near-perfect expression of myself as a photographer in 
that it's very much a work in progress, and in its early stages.


The most valuable lesson I've learned from this image is that, for all 
its wonders, Photoshop can't turn a crappy photographer into a good 
one.  :-)


Best,

Walt


On 10/3/2010 6:27 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

Other than being a tad dark on my laptop, good first try.

Dave

On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 12:52 AM, Walter Gilbertldott...@gmail.com  
wrote:

  Hi all,

This is a shot I took way back at the end of May, shortly after I 
got my

K-x.  I've been tinkering with it off and on ever since and can't bring
myself to abandon it, as it was the first in-flight bird I ever 
captured
that I was somewhat proud of.  The color of the background was 
absolutely
horrid in the original photo, and it was pretty noisy by K-x 
standards.  I
messed with toning down the colors (it was an abhorrent mix of 
brown, green,
rust, and yellow originally) until I finally decided it looked best 
with

everything desaturated out, except for the red of the bird.  I'm still
trying to deal with some ugliness on the beak, but I'm slowly 
getting it out

of there.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/5045841583/
K-x, DAL 50-200mm, f/5.6, ISO 400, 1/1250 sec

It was shot in jpeg format, so I'm somewhat limited in my options.  
And this
is a resized (2400 pixels long-side) version after some minor 
cropping (I'm
trying to stay as close to the original resolution as possible for 
now).

  Any tips on what I can do, aside from the cropping, to make it a more
effective image?

Comments, critiques, and/or relentless hectoring welcome.

Best,

Walt



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Re: PESO: Cardinal on Approach

2010-10-03 Thread Walter Gilbert
  Thanks for the encouragement, P.J.  I'll try to keep that in mind the 
next time I find myself deleting 100 pictures of a smashed aluminum can, 
not taken to test out a lens, but because I'd somehow convinced myself 
it'd make an interesting shot.  ;^)



On 10/3/2010 1:30 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:
 Don't sell yourself short, we're all crappy photographers, some are 
just better editors.  Right now I've just deleted about 100 shots of a 
doorknob I was shooting to test out a couple of lenses.  Some were 
even good photos of a doorknob, but...


On 10/3/2010 2:07 PM, Walter Gilbert wrote:

  Thanks, David.

The shot is a near-perfect expression of myself as a photographer in 
that it's very much a work in progress, and in its early stages.


The most valuable lesson I've learned from this image is that, for 
all its wonders, Photoshop can't turn a crappy photographer into a 
good one.  :-)


Best,

Walt


On 10/3/2010 6:27 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

Other than being a tad dark on my laptop, good first try.

Dave

On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 12:52 AM, Walter Gilbertldott...@gmail.com  
wrote:

  Hi all,

This is a shot I took way back at the end of May, shortly after I 
got my
K-x.  I've been tinkering with it off and on ever since and can't 
bring
myself to abandon it, as it was the first in-flight bird I ever 
captured
that I was somewhat proud of.  The color of the background was 
absolutely
horrid in the original photo, and it was pretty noisy by K-x 
standards.  I
messed with toning down the colors (it was an abhorrent mix of 
brown, green,
rust, and yellow originally) until I finally decided it looked best 
with

everything desaturated out, except for the red of the bird.  I'm still
trying to deal with some ugliness on the beak, but I'm slowly 
getting it out

of there.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/5045841583/
K-x, DAL 50-200mm, f/5.6, ISO 400, 1/1250 sec

It was shot in jpeg format, so I'm somewhat limited in my options.  
And this
is a resized (2400 pixels long-side) version after some minor 
cropping (I'm
trying to stay as close to the original resolution as possible for 
now).
  Any tips on what I can do, aside from the cropping, to make it a 
more

effective image?

Comments, critiques, and/or relentless hectoring welcome.

Best,

Walt



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Re: PESO: Cardinal on Approach

2010-10-03 Thread paul stenquist
Well done!
Paul
On Oct 3, 2010, at 2:03 PM, Walter Gilbert wrote:

  Thanks, Steven.
 
 I really need to immerse myself in Photoshop in order to do anything 
 approaching what P.J. did with that photo.  It really is nice, isn't it?
 
 -- Walt
 
 
 
 On 10/3/2010 10:27 AM, Steven Desjardins wrote:
 I admit that I am partial tot his kind of effect if it it is done
 well.  Both of these are good efforts, but the car is wonderful.
 
 On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 2:19 AM, P. J. Allingwebstertwenty...@gmail.com  
 wrote:
  Just to be annoying here's one of my efforts, I used a number of layers.
 
 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20chartreusecouperevisited%26revised.html
 
 On 10/3/2010 2:10 AM, Walter Gilbert wrote:
   Thanks, P.J.
 
 You're absolutely right.  I noticed the halo around the bird about ten
 minutes after I'd uploaded it.  Only, I didn't use any layers.  I simply
 desaturated the colors in the original.  I'll see if I can get rid of some
 of that.
 
 -- Walt
 
 On 10/3/2010 12:54 AM, P. J. Alling wrote:
  Imitation hand coloring of BW can be effective, but you have to be
 careful to avoid halos around your colored layer.  Just think of it as a
 case of Less is More, unless you intended for it to look the way it does, 
 in
 which case to quote Emily Litela .  /Nevermind/.
 
 On 10/3/2010 12:52 AM, Walter Gilbert wrote:
  Hi all,
 
 This is a shot I took way back at the end of May, shortly after I got my
 K-x.  I've been tinkering with it off and on ever since and can't bring
 myself to abandon it, as it was the first in-flight bird I ever captured
 that I was somewhat proud of.  The color of the background was absolutely
 horrid in the original photo, and it was pretty noisy by K-x standards.  
 I
 messed with toning down the colors (it was an abhorrent mix of brown, 
 green,
 rust, and yellow originally) until I finally decided it looked best with
 everything desaturated out, except for the red of the bird.  I'm still
 trying to deal with some ugliness on the beak, but I'm slowly getting it 
 out
 of there.
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/5045841583/
 K-x, DAL 50-200mm, f/5.6, ISO 400, 1/1250 sec
 
 It was shot in jpeg format, so I'm somewhat limited in my options.  And
 this is a resized (2400 pixels long-side) version after some minor 
 cropping
 (I'm trying to stay as close to the original resolution as possible for
 now).  Any tips on what I can do, aside from the cropping, to make it a 
 more
 effective image?
 
 Comments, critiques, and/or relentless hectoring welcome.
 
 Best,
 
 Walt
 
 
 
 
 
 
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PESO: Cardinal on Approach

2010-10-02 Thread Walter Gilbert

 Hi all,

This is a shot I took way back at the end of May, shortly after I got my 
K-x.  I've been tinkering with it off and on ever since and can't bring 
myself to abandon it, as it was the first in-flight bird I ever captured 
that I was somewhat proud of.  The color of the background was 
absolutely horrid in the original photo, and it was pretty noisy by K-x 
standards.  I messed with toning down the colors (it was an abhorrent 
mix of brown, green, rust, and yellow originally) until I finally 
decided it looked best with everything desaturated out, except for the 
red of the bird.  I'm still trying to deal with some ugliness on the 
beak, but I'm slowly getting it out of there.


http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/5045841583/
K-x, DAL 50-200mm, f/5.6, ISO 400, 1/1250 sec

It was shot in jpeg format, so I'm somewhat limited in my options.  And 
this is a resized (2400 pixels long-side) version after some minor 
cropping (I'm trying to stay as close to the original resolution as 
possible for now).  Any tips on what I can do, aside from the cropping, 
to make it a more effective image?


Comments, critiques, and/or relentless hectoring welcome.

Best,

Walt



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Re: PESO: Cardinal on Approach

2010-10-02 Thread P. J. Alling
 Imitation hand coloring of BW can be effective, but you have to be 
careful to avoid halos around your colored layer.  Just think of it as a 
case of Less is More, unless you intended for it to look the way it 
does, in which case to quote Emily Litela .  /Nevermind/.


On 10/3/2010 12:52 AM, Walter Gilbert wrote:

 Hi all,

This is a shot I took way back at the end of May, shortly after I got 
my K-x.  I've been tinkering with it off and on ever since and can't 
bring myself to abandon it, as it was the first in-flight bird I ever 
captured that I was somewhat proud of.  The color of the background 
was absolutely horrid in the original photo, and it was pretty noisy 
by K-x standards.  I messed with toning down the colors (it was an 
abhorrent mix of brown, green, rust, and yellow originally) until I 
finally decided it looked best with everything desaturated out, except 
for the red of the bird.  I'm still trying to deal with some ugliness 
on the beak, but I'm slowly getting it out of there.


http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/5045841583/
K-x, DAL 50-200mm, f/5.6, ISO 400, 1/1250 sec

It was shot in jpeg format, so I'm somewhat limited in my options.  
And this is a resized (2400 pixels long-side) version after some minor 
cropping (I'm trying to stay as close to the original resolution as 
possible for now).  Any tips on what I can do, aside from the 
cropping, to make it a more effective image?


Comments, critiques, and/or relentless hectoring welcome.

Best,

Walt






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