Re: PESO - 100 dots (or playing with a photo)

2017-02-03 Thread ann sanfedele

Ooh goodie... thats great - although now I have other fish frying... :-)
ann

On 2/3/2017 7:35 PM, Paul in MKE wrote:

Ann & Igor -

See this page for one method of making coloring book pages...

http://www.photoshopsupport.com/tutorials/jennifer/photo-to-sketch.html

-p


On 2/3/2017 8:47 AM, ann sanfedele wrote:
I used the feature you used in photoshop to try to make some coloring 
book pages -- actually sold one little set.. but it isn't a money 
maker.. The thing is
it really needs to be clear lines for coloring books... I couldn't 
figure out a way to combine the feature you used with anything else 
to get rid of the texture..


this technique has a name that I've forgotten so I've lost where it 
is in Elements 10 :-(


did you consider applying it but keeping the color?

ann

On 2/3/2017 8:28 AM, Igor PDML-StR wrote:



"Painting by numbers" would not have the texture, only the contours.
That's at least the case with those that my child has used so far.

Igor



 Alan C Wed, 01 Feb 2017 23:22:58 -0800 wrote:

Pencil. If you numbered the "blocks" it could become a "painting by 
numbers" template.



Alan C


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Subject: PESO - 100 dots (or playing with a photo)



I am not an artist: My abilities to draw a picture by hand are at the
level of a middle school or so. And most of the time I am too lazy 
to do

anything in Photoshop.

But occasionally I have an idea for a manipulation on the photo...
I think, this is somewhat reminiscent of a drawing. (What drawing
technique is this similar to? Pencil? Charcoal? Etching?):
http://42graphy.org/misc/2017-02-01-100days/

All comments and suggestions are welcome!

Igor









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Re: PESO - 100 dots (or playing with a photo)

2017-02-03 Thread ann sanfedele
thanks for the path to Find Edges.!.. when I bring up the filters drop 
down there is a tediously long laundry list of choices - seems to me in 
version 5.o FInd edges was closer to the surface... sadly, find edges 
doesn't work the way I remember it working in earlier ELements version...
whenevery I futz around with photos for fun or profit to get designs I 
often lose track of what I've done... I'm less careless with my calendar 
covers and such

anyway...

 here is a link to the file that shows the coloring book pages I sold
https://annsan.smugmug.com/Misceandvids/ITEMS-for-SALE/i-zNLV6LF/X3..

I thought you had used something other than find edges... but your 
filter is the same as what I used in a couple of these, you can see.


starting top left , going across and then down , numbers 5, 8-10 are the 
ones that went from a photo to what every you call what i have here...
Numbers 1 and 2 were already highly worked on graphics taht started as 
photos.. but 3,4,6,7 started out as an BW ink abstract drawing I did 
about 40 years ago...


Here is something I did think was successful using that tool on a very 
over exposed photo of dogwood... it is a bit cutsy pie for me, but might 
make
nice fabric so I think I'll take it off cafe press and put it on 
spoonflower for fabric or wrapping paper...


https://annsan.smugmug.com/Graphic-Design/Anns-design-work/i-grqdwzz/L

numbers 3,4,6,7 started as this
https://annsan.smugmug.com/Graphic-Design/Anns-design-work/i-pwfKN6W/A

doing this is alternately fun and frustrating... sometimes soothign when 
it goes right, but I can't do it mechanically or it is just torture


ann

On 2/3/2017 2:16 PM, Igor PDML-StR wrote:


Ann,

In PS, it's under Filters / Stylize / Find Edges.

Re: texture
It depends on the photo. If the objects of interest are reasonably 
uniformly exposed, and if there is a reasonable contrast (I've working 
with B renditions) between the object(S) and the surrounding, you 
can use Layer -> Adjustment Layer -> Threshold,

combined with Levels.
Essentially, you make the picture "binary", separating black and 
white, eliminating all grey in between. (Effectively, you collapse all 
grey one way or the other.)
If you still have some speckles, you can clean them up by, e.g. 
choosing the black areas using the "magic wand" tool, and then 
Select-> Inverse [selection].
Once all "white" and "grey" areas have been chosen, you can either 
"fill" them with a white color, erase, cut, or whatever...
.. and then use a white background/layer to re-create the continuous 
white.


I've done something along those lines once or twice before.
In this photo: 
http://42graphy.komkon.org/swing/ch-2008/1-selected/IMGP4530_1.html

I believe, I also added "invert" under "Adjustment Layer".

I briefly saw how this feature showed up in color when I was working 
on the photo I posted a day ago, but I didn't like what I saw.


Actually, the inspiration for this manipulation comes from when I am 
doing sharpening in LR. When I choose the mask for sharpening (Alt + 
moving the slider), LR shows a very similar view, - essentially the 
edges that get sharpened.



Igor


 ann sanfedele Fri, 03 Feb 2017 06:54:36 -0800 wrote:

I used the feature you used in photoshop to try to make some coloring 
book pages -- actually sold one little set.. but it isn't a money 
maker.. The thing is it really needs to be clear lines for coloring 
books... I couldn't figure out a way to combine the feature you used 
with anything else to get rid of the texture..



this technique has a name that I've forgotten so I've lost where it is 
in Elements 10 :-(



did you consider applying it but keeping the color?

ann




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Re: PESO - 100 dots (or playing with a photo)

2017-02-03 Thread Paul in MKE

Ann & Igor -

See this page for one method of making coloring book pages...

http://www.photoshopsupport.com/tutorials/jennifer/photo-to-sketch.html

-p


On 2/3/2017 8:47 AM, ann sanfedele wrote:
I used the feature you used in photoshop to try to make some coloring 
book pages -- actually sold one little set.. but it isn't a money 
maker.. The thing is
it really needs to be clear lines for coloring books... I couldn't 
figure out a way to combine the feature you used with anything else to 
get rid of the texture..


this technique has a name that I've forgotten so I've lost where it is 
in Elements 10 :-(


did you consider applying it but keeping the color?

ann

On 2/3/2017 8:28 AM, Igor PDML-StR wrote:



"Painting by numbers" would not have the texture, only the contours.
That's at least the case with those that my child has used so far.

Igor



 Alan C Wed, 01 Feb 2017 23:22:58 -0800 wrote:

Pencil. If you numbered the "blocks" it could become a "painting by 
numbers" template.



Alan C


-Original Message- From: Igor PDML-StR

Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2017 7:27 AM
To: PDML@pdml.net
Subject: PESO - 100 dots (or playing with a photo)



I am not an artist: My abilities to draw a picture by hand are at the
level of a middle school or so. And most of the time I am too lazy to do
anything in Photoshop.

But occasionally I have an idea for a manipulation on the photo...
I think, this is somewhat reminiscent of a drawing. (What drawing
technique is this similar to? Pencil? Charcoal? Etching?):
http://42graphy.org/misc/2017-02-01-100days/

All comments and suggestions are welcome!

Igor






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Re: PESO - 100 dots (or playing with a photo)

2017-02-03 Thread John

I was thinking watercolors myself.

The treatment room I visited yesterday at the VA had a poster from the
Boston Museum of Fine Arts (IIRC the correct museum name) for Winslow
Homer's "The Blue Boat" & I noticed what appeared to be a pencil outline
to define the shapes before applying the colors.

No problem, I was in for a routine 6 months checkup with Radiation Oncology.

On 2/3/2017 9:47 AM, ann sanfedele wrote:

I used the feature you used in photoshop to try to make some coloring
book pages -- actually sold one little set.. but it isn't a money
maker.. The thing is
it really needs to be clear lines for coloring books... I couldn't
figure out a way to combine the feature you used with anything else to
get rid of the texture..

this technique has a name that I've forgotten so I've lost where it is
in Elements 10 :-(

did you consider applying it but keeping the color?

ann

On 2/3/2017 8:28 AM, Igor PDML-StR wrote:



"Painting by numbers" would not have the texture, only the contours.
That's at least the case with those that my child has used so far.

Igor



 Alan C Wed, 01 Feb 2017 23:22:58 -0800 wrote:

Pencil. If you numbered the "blocks" it could become a "painting by
numbers" template.


Alan C


-Original Message- From: Igor PDML-StR

Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2017 7:27 AM
To: PDML@pdml.net
Subject: PESO - 100 dots (or playing with a photo)



I am not an artist: My abilities to draw a picture by hand are at the
level of a middle school or so. And most of the time I am too lazy to do
anything in Photoshop.

But occasionally I have an idea for a manipulation on the photo...
I think, this is somewhat reminiscent of a drawing. (What drawing
technique is this similar to? Pencil? Charcoal? Etching?):
http://42graphy.org/misc/2017-02-01-100days/

All comments and suggestions are welcome!

Igor






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Re: PESO - 100 dots (or playing with a photo)

2017-02-03 Thread Igor PDML-StR


Ann,

In PS, it's under Filters / Stylize / Find Edges.

Re: texture
It depends on the photo. If the objects of interest are reasonably 
uniformly exposed, and if there is a reasonable contrast (I've working 
with B renditions) between the object(S) and the surrounding, you can 
use 
Layer -> Adjustment Layer -> Threshold,

combined with Levels.
Essentially, you make the picture "binary", separating black and white, 
eliminating all grey in between. (Effectively, you collapse all grey one 
way or the other.)
If you still have some speckles, you can clean them up by, e.g. choosing 
the black areas using the "magic wand" tool, and then Select-> Inverse 
[selection].
Once all "white" and "grey" areas have been chosen, you can either "fill" 
them with a white color, erase, cut, or whatever...
.. and then use a white background/layer to re-create the continuous 
white.


I've done something along those lines once or twice before.
In this photo: 
http://42graphy.komkon.org/swing/ch-2008/1-selected/IMGP4530_1.html

I believe, I also added "invert" under "Adjustment Layer".

I briefly saw how this feature showed up in color when I was working on 
the photo I posted a day ago, but I didn't like what I saw.


Actually, the inspiration for this manipulation comes from when I am doing 
sharpening in LR. When I choose the mask for sharpening (Alt + moving the 
slider), LR shows a very similar view, - essentially the edges that get 
sharpened.



Igor


 ann sanfedele Fri, 03 Feb 2017 06:54:36 -0800 wrote:

I used the feature you used in photoshop to try to make some coloring book 
pages -- actually sold one little set.. but it isn't a money maker.. The 
thing is it really needs to be clear lines for coloring books... I 
couldn't figure out a way to combine the feature you used with anything 
else to get rid of the texture..



this technique has a name that I've forgotten so I've lost where it is in 
Elements 10 :-(



did you consider applying it but keeping the color?

ann

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Re: PESO - 100 dots (or playing with a photo)

2017-02-03 Thread ann sanfedele
I used the feature you used in photoshop to try to make some coloring 
book pages -- actually sold one little set.. but it isn't a money 
maker.. The thing is
it really needs to be clear lines for coloring books... I couldn't 
figure out a way to combine the feature you used with anything else to 
get rid of the texture..


this technique has a name that I've forgotten so I've lost where it is 
in Elements 10 :-(


did you consider applying it but keeping the color?

ann

On 2/3/2017 8:28 AM, Igor PDML-StR wrote:



"Painting by numbers" would not have the texture, only the contours.
That's at least the case with those that my child has used so far.

Igor



 Alan C Wed, 01 Feb 2017 23:22:58 -0800 wrote:

Pencil. If you numbered the "blocks" it could become a "painting by 
numbers" template.



Alan C


-Original Message- From: Igor PDML-StR

Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2017 7:27 AM
To: PDML@pdml.net
Subject: PESO - 100 dots (or playing with a photo)



I am not an artist: My abilities to draw a picture by hand are at the
level of a middle school or so. And most of the time I am too lazy to do
anything in Photoshop.

But occasionally I have an idea for a manipulation on the photo...
I think, this is somewhat reminiscent of a drawing. (What drawing
technique is this similar to? Pencil? Charcoal? Etching?):
http://42graphy.org/misc/2017-02-01-100days/

All comments and suggestions are welcome!

Igor




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Re: PESO - 100 dots (or playing with a photo)

2017-02-03 Thread Alan C

Overcome by blending. Some of the "kits" explain how to do it.

Alan C

-Original Message- 
From: Igor PDML-StR

Sent: Friday, February 03, 2017 3:28 PM
To: PDML@pdml.net
Subject: Re: PESO - 100 dots (or playing with a photo)



"Painting by numbers" would not have the texture, only the contours.
That's at least the case with those that my child has used so far.

Igor



 Alan C Wed, 01 Feb 2017 23:22:58 -0800 wrote:

Pencil. If you numbered the "blocks" it could become a "painting by
numbers" template.


Alan C


-Original Message- From: Igor PDML-StR

Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2017 7:27 AM
To: PDML@pdml.net
Subject: PESO - 100 dots (or playing with a photo)



I am not an artist: My abilities to draw a picture by hand are at the
level of a middle school or so. And most of the time I am too lazy to do
anything in Photoshop.

But occasionally I have an idea for a manipulation on the photo...
I think, this is somewhat reminiscent of a drawing. (What drawing
technique is this similar to? Pencil? Charcoal? Etching?):
http://42graphy.org/misc/2017-02-01-100days/

All comments and suggestions are welcome!

Igor

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Re: PESO - 100 dots (or playing with a photo)

2017-02-03 Thread Igor PDML-StR



"Painting by numbers" would not have the texture, only the contours.
That's at least the case with those that my child has used so far.

Igor



 Alan C Wed, 01 Feb 2017 23:22:58 -0800 wrote:

Pencil. If you numbered the "blocks" it could become a "painting by 
numbers" template.



Alan C


-Original Message- From: Igor PDML-StR

Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2017 7:27 AM
To: PDML@pdml.net
Subject: PESO - 100 dots (or playing with a photo)



I am not an artist: My abilities to draw a picture by hand are at the
level of a middle school or so. And most of the time I am too lazy to do
anything in Photoshop.

But occasionally I have an idea for a manipulation on the photo...
I think, this is somewhat reminiscent of a drawing. (What drawing
technique is this similar to? Pencil? Charcoal? Etching?):
http://42graphy.org/misc/2017-02-01-100days/

All comments and suggestions are welcome!

Igor

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Re: PESO - 100 dots (or playing with a photo)

2017-02-01 Thread Alan C
Pencil. If you numbered the "blocks" it could become a "painting by numbers" 
template.


Alan C

-Original Message- 
From: Igor PDML-StR

Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2017 7:27 AM
To: PDML@pdml.net
Subject: PESO - 100 dots (or playing with a photo)



I am not an artist: My abilities to draw a picture by hand are at the
level of a middle school or so. And most of the time I am too lazy to do
anything in Photoshop.

But occasionally I have an idea for a manipulation on the photo...
I think, this is somewhat reminiscent of a drawing. (What drawing
technique is this similar to? Pencil? Charcoal? Etching?):
http://42graphy.org/misc/2017-02-01-100days/

All comments and suggestions are welcome!

Igor



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PESO - 100 dots (or playing with a photo)

2017-02-01 Thread Igor PDML-StR



I am not an artist: My abilities to draw a picture by hand are at the 
level of a middle school or so. And most of the time I am too lazy to do 
anything in Photoshop.


But occasionally I have an idea for a manipulation on the photo...
I think, this is somewhat reminiscent of a drawing. (What drawing 
technique is this similar to? Pencil? Charcoal? Etching?):

http://42graphy.org/misc/2017-02-01-100days/

All comments and suggestions are welcome!

Igor



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