Re: PESO Flying Rat, European Version
On 28/03/2014, Bob W-PDML p...@web-options.com wrote: On 28 Mar 2014, at 13:28, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote: On 27/03/2014, Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: So Swan Lake is a dangerous place? Only when singing your swan song. I was going to make a pun leading from Lieder to Ledahosen but it was so complex I forgot the beginning by the time I arrived at the end. Ledahosen That swan for the classicists, you smartypants, you! Mute point. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Flying Rat, European Version
On 28/03/2014, Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: ...I forgot the beginning by the time I arrived at the end. But did you enjoy the trip ? It was a whoop. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com Subject: Re: PESO Flying Rat, European Version On 27/03/2014, Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: So Swan Lake is a dangerous place? Only when singing your swan song. I was going to make a pun leading from Lieder to Ledahosen but it was so complex I forgot the beginning by the time I arrived at the end. - Original Message - From: Alan C c...@lantic.net Subject: Re: PESO Flying Rat, European Version So Swan Lake is a dangerous place? Alan C -Original Message- From: Paul Stenquist Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014 3:41 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: PESO Flying Rat, European Version Mute swans are much prettier than geese, but in some parts of the U.S., including Michigan, they’re just as much a problem. They are not a native species but were introduced from Europe many years ago and are considered invasive. They multiply rapidly and have squeezed out the native Trumpeter swan. They’re also very aggressive and have been known to attack people who get too close to their nests.They bite and slap with their wings, which are powerful enough to break a man’s leg. Swans are supposedly good to eat, allegedly better than their close relative, the goose. Some states have opened a swan hunting season. But most those who wish to dine on swan go for the smaller Tundra Swans. Butchering a Mute Swan is a big job. Paul On Mar 24, 2014, at 3:12 AM, Chris Mitchell chris.mitch...@which.net wrote: Very nice. I find the light bit of water at the top a little distracting - would it be better with that cropped? Not sure of the flying rat reference. They're much more elegant than that! Chris On 23 March 2014 17:54, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Shot on a lake this afternoon. K-3 DA* 60-250/4 with the 1.4X converter, f5.6, 1/2500, 350mm, ISO 400 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17716268size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Flying Rat, European Version
On 27/03/2014, Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: So Swan Lake is a dangerous place? Only when singing your swan song. I was going to make a pun leading from Lieder to Ledahosen but it was so complex I forgot the beginning by the time I arrived at the end. - Original Message - From: Alan C c...@lantic.net Subject: Re: PESO Flying Rat, European Version So Swan Lake is a dangerous place? Alan C -Original Message- From: Paul Stenquist Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014 3:41 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: PESO Flying Rat, European Version Mute swans are much prettier than geese, but in some parts of the U.S., including Michigan, they’re just as much a problem. They are not a native species but were introduced from Europe many years ago and are considered invasive. They multiply rapidly and have squeezed out the native Trumpeter swan. They’re also very aggressive and have been known to attack people who get too close to their nests.They bite and slap with their wings, which are powerful enough to break a man’s leg. Swans are supposedly good to eat, allegedly better than their close relative, the goose. Some states have opened a swan hunting season. But most those who wish to dine on swan go for the smaller Tundra Swans. Butchering a Mute Swan is a big job. Paul On Mar 24, 2014, at 3:12 AM, Chris Mitchell chris.mitch...@which.net wrote: Very nice. I find the light bit of water at the top a little distracting - would it be better with that cropped? Not sure of the flying rat reference. They're much more elegant than that! Chris On 23 March 2014 17:54, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Shot on a lake this afternoon. K-3 DA* 60-250/4 with the 1.4X converter, f5.6, 1/2500, 350mm, ISO 400 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17716268size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Flying Rat, European Version
On 28 Mar 2014, at 13:28, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote: On 27/03/2014, Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: So Swan Lake is a dangerous place? Only when singing your swan song. I was going to make a pun leading from Lieder to Ledahosen but it was so complex I forgot the beginning by the time I arrived at the end. Ledahosen That swan for the classicists, you smartypants, you! B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Flying Rat, European Version
...I forgot the beginning by the time I arrived at the end. But did you enjoy the trip ? Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com Subject: Re: PESO Flying Rat, European Version On 27/03/2014, Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: So Swan Lake is a dangerous place? Only when singing your swan song. I was going to make a pun leading from Lieder to Ledahosen but it was so complex I forgot the beginning by the time I arrived at the end. - Original Message - From: Alan C c...@lantic.net Subject: Re: PESO Flying Rat, European Version So Swan Lake is a dangerous place? Alan C -Original Message- From: Paul Stenquist Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014 3:41 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: PESO Flying Rat, European Version Mute swans are much prettier than geese, but in some parts of the U.S., including Michigan, they’re just as much a problem. They are not a native species but were introduced from Europe many years ago and are considered invasive. They multiply rapidly and have squeezed out the native Trumpeter swan. They’re also very aggressive and have been known to attack people who get too close to their nests.They bite and slap with their wings, which are powerful enough to break a man’s leg. Swans are supposedly good to eat, allegedly better than their close relative, the goose. Some states have opened a swan hunting season. But most those who wish to dine on swan go for the smaller Tundra Swans. Butchering a Mute Swan is a big job. Paul On Mar 24, 2014, at 3:12 AM, Chris Mitchell chris.mitch...@which.net wrote: Very nice. I find the light bit of water at the top a little distracting - would it be better with that cropped? Not sure of the flying rat reference. They're much more elegant than that! Chris On 23 March 2014 17:54, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Shot on a lake this afternoon. K-3 DA* 60-250/4 with the 1.4X converter, f5.6, 1/2500, 350mm, ISO 400 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17716268size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Flying Rat, European Version
So Swan Lake is a dangerous place? Only when singing your swan song. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Alan C c...@lantic.net Subject: Re: PESO Flying Rat, European Version So Swan Lake is a dangerous place? Alan C -Original Message- From: Paul Stenquist Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014 3:41 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: PESO Flying Rat, European Version Mute swans are much prettier than geese, but in some parts of the U.S., including Michigan, they’re just as much a problem. They are not a native species but were introduced from Europe many years ago and are considered invasive. They multiply rapidly and have squeezed out the native Trumpeter swan. They’re also very aggressive and have been known to attack people who get too close to their nests.They bite and slap with their wings, which are powerful enough to break a man’s leg. Swans are supposedly good to eat, allegedly better than their close relative, the goose. Some states have opened a swan hunting season. But most those who wish to dine on swan go for the smaller Tundra Swans. Butchering a Mute Swan is a big job. Paul On Mar 24, 2014, at 3:12 AM, Chris Mitchell chris.mitch...@which.net wrote: Very nice. I find the light bit of water at the top a little distracting - would it be better with that cropped? Not sure of the flying rat reference. They're much more elegant than that! Chris On 23 March 2014 17:54, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Shot on a lake this afternoon. K-3 DA* 60-250/4 with the 1.4X converter, f5.6, 1/2500, 350mm, ISO 400 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17716268size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Flying Rat, European Version
On 24 March 2014 13:41, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Mute swans are much prettier than geese, but in some parts of the U.S., including Michigan, they're just as much a problem. They are not a native species but were introduced from Europe many years ago and are considered invasive. They multiply rapidly and have squeezed out the native Trumpeter swan. I didn't realise that they were an invader. We've got major issues with giant freshwater crayfish, Japanese knotweed and the dreaded grey squirrel They're also very aggressive and have been known to attack people who get too close to their nests.They bite and slap with their wings, which are powerful enough to break a man's leg. Swans are supposedly good to eat, allegedly better than their close relative, the goose. Some states have opened a swan hunting season. But most those who wish to dine on swan go for the smaller Tundra Swans. Butchering a Mute Swan is a big job. The swans in the UK mostly belong to the Queen, or so it's said. In the past people caught with a swan supper have been incarcerated in the Tower or, even worse, been transported to Australia... Chris Paul On Mar 24, 2014, at 3:12 AM, Chris Mitchell chris.mitch...@which.net wrote: Very nice. I find the light bit of water at the top a little distracting - would it be better with that cropped? Not sure of the flying rat reference. They're much more elegant than that! Chris On 23 March 2014 17:54, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Shot on a lake this afternoon. K-3 DA* 60-250/4 with the 1.4X converter, f5.6, 1/2500, 350mm, ISO 400 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17716268size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 3/25/2014 3:26 AM, Chris Mitchell wrote: The swans in the UK mostly belong to the Queen, or so it's said. In the past people caught with a swan supper have been incarcerated in the Tower or, even worse, been transported to Australia... Chris https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swan_Upping -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Flying Rat, European Version
On Mar 25, 2014, at 3:26 AM, Chris Mitchell chris.mitch...@which.net wrote: On 24 March 2014 13:41, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Mute swans are much prettier than geese, but in some parts of the U.S., including Michigan, they're just as much a problem. They are not a native species but were introduced from Europe many years ago and are considered invasive. They multiply rapidly and have squeezed out the native Trumpeter swan. I didn't realise that they were an invader. We've got major issues with giant freshwater crayfish, Japanese knotweed and the dreaded grey squirrel They're also very aggressive and have been known to attack people who get too close to their nests.They bite and slap with their wings, which are powerful enough to break a man's leg. Swans are supposedly good to eat, allegedly better than their close relative, the goose. Some states have opened a swan hunting season. But most those who wish to dine on swan go for the smaller Tundra Swans. Butchering a Mute Swan is a big job. The swans in the UK mostly belong to the Queen, or so it's said. She must have been a very naughty girl to deserve such a fate. Paul In the past people caught with a swan supper have been incarcerated in the Tower or, even worse, been transported to Australia... Chris Paul On Mar 24, 2014, at 3:12 AM, Chris Mitchell chris.mitch...@which.net wrote: Very nice. I find the light bit of water at the top a little distracting - would it be better with that cropped? Not sure of the flying rat reference. They're much more elegant than that! Chris On 23 March 2014 17:54, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Shot on a lake this afternoon. K-3 DA* 60-250/4 with the 1.4X converter, f5.6, 1/2500, 350mm, ISO 400 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17716268size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Flying Rat, European Version
Very nice. I find the light bit of water at the top a little distracting - would it be better with that cropped? Not sure of the flying rat reference. They're much more elegant than that! Chris On 23 March 2014 17:54, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Shot on a lake this afternoon. K-3 DA* 60-250/4 with the 1.4X converter, f5.6, 1/2500, 350mm, ISO 400 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17716268size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Flying Rat, European Version
Mute swans are much prettier than geese, but in some parts of the U.S., including Michigan, they’re just as much a problem. They are not a native species but were introduced from Europe many years ago and are considered invasive. They multiply rapidly and have squeezed out the native Trumpeter swan. They’re also very aggressive and have been known to attack people who get too close to their nests.They bite and slap with their wings, which are powerful enough to break a man’s leg. Swans are supposedly good to eat, allegedly better than their close relative, the goose. Some states have opened a swan hunting season. But most those who wish to dine on swan go for the smaller Tundra Swans. Butchering a Mute Swan is a big job. Paul On Mar 24, 2014, at 3:12 AM, Chris Mitchell chris.mitch...@which.net wrote: Very nice. I find the light bit of water at the top a little distracting - would it be better with that cropped? Not sure of the flying rat reference. They're much more elegant than that! Chris On 23 March 2014 17:54, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Shot on a lake this afternoon. K-3 DA* 60-250/4 with the 1.4X converter, f5.6, 1/2500, 350mm, ISO 400 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17716268size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Flying Rat, European Version
A park near us had to eliminate the swans from its pond, because they were injuring young children. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 9:41 AM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Mute swans are much prettier than geese, but in some parts of the U.S., including Michigan, they’re just as much a problem. They are not a native species but were introduced from Europe many years ago and are considered invasive. They multiply rapidly and have squeezed out the native Trumpeter swan. They’re also very aggressive and have been known to attack people who get too close to their nests.They bite and slap with their wings, which are powerful enough to break a man’s leg. Swans are supposedly good to eat, allegedly better than their close relative, the goose. Some states have opened a swan hunting season. But most those who wish to dine on swan go for the smaller Tundra Swans. Butchering a Mute Swan is a big job. Paul On Mar 24, 2014, at 3:12 AM, Chris Mitchell chris.mitch...@which.net wrote: Very nice. I find the light bit of water at the top a little distracting - would it be better with that cropped? Not sure of the flying rat reference. They're much more elegant than that! Chris On 23 March 2014 17:54, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Shot on a lake this afternoon. K-3 DA* 60-250/4 with the 1.4X converter, f5.6, 1/2500, 350mm, ISO 400 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17716268size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Flying Rat, European Version
So Swan Lake is a dangerous place? Alan C -Original Message- From: Paul Stenquist Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014 3:41 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: PESO Flying Rat, European Version Mute swans are much prettier than geese, but in some parts of the U.S., including Michigan, they’re just as much a problem. They are not a native species but were introduced from Europe many years ago and are considered invasive. They multiply rapidly and have squeezed out the native Trumpeter swan. They’re also very aggressive and have been known to attack people who get too close to their nests.They bite and slap with their wings, which are powerful enough to break a man’s leg. Swans are supposedly good to eat, allegedly better than their close relative, the goose. Some states have opened a swan hunting season. But most those who wish to dine on swan go for the smaller Tundra Swans. Butchering a Mute Swan is a big job. Paul On Mar 24, 2014, at 3:12 AM, Chris Mitchell chris.mitch...@which.net wrote: Very nice. I find the light bit of water at the top a little distracting - would it be better with that cropped? Not sure of the flying rat reference. They're much more elegant than that! Chris On 23 March 2014 17:54, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Shot on a lake this afternoon. K-3 DA* 60-250/4 with the 1.4X converter, f5.6, 1/2500, 350mm, ISO 400 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17716268size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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That seems to be true. I don’t sneak up on swans. We try to ignore each other. Paul On Mar 24, 2014, at 10:05 AM, Alan C c...@lantic.net wrote: So Swan Lake is a dangerous place? Alan C -Original Message- From: Paul Stenquist Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014 3:41 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: PESO Flying Rat, European Version Mute swans are much prettier than geese, but in some parts of the U.S., including Michigan, they’re just as much a problem. They are not a native species but were introduced from Europe many years ago and are considered invasive. They multiply rapidly and have squeezed out the native Trumpeter swan. They’re also very aggressive and have been known to attack people who get too close to their nests.They bite and slap with their wings, which are powerful enough to break a man’s leg. Swans are supposedly good to eat, allegedly better than their close relative, the goose. Some states have opened a swan hunting season. But most those who wish to dine on swan go for the smaller Tundra Swans. Butchering a Mute Swan is a big job. Paul On Mar 24, 2014, at 3:12 AM, Chris Mitchell chris.mitch...@which.net wrote: Very nice. I find the light bit of water at the top a little distracting - would it be better with that cropped? Not sure of the flying rat reference. They're much more elegant than that! Chris On 23 March 2014 17:54, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Shot on a lake this afternoon. K-3 DA* 60-250/4 with the 1.4X converter, f5.6, 1/2500, 350mm, ISO 400 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17716268size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Mar 24, 2014, at 3:12 AM, Chris Mitchell chris.mitch...@which.net wrote: Very nice. I find the light bit of water at the top a little distracting - would it be better with that cropped? That’s ice. I left it in because it seemed to give it some time and place reference. Perhaps a prettier pic without it. Paul Not sure of the flying rat reference. They're much more elegant than that! Chris On 23 March 2014 17:54, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Shot on a lake this afternoon. K-3 DA* 60-250/4 with the 1.4X converter, f5.6, 1/2500, 350mm, ISO 400 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17716268size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 24 Mar 2014, at 13:42, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: [...] Swans are supposedly good to eat, allegedly better than their close relative, the goose. Some states have opened a swan hunting season. But most those who wish to dine on swan go for the smaller Tundra Swans. Butchering a Mute Swan is a big job. Not good for gout, but you can find plenty of historical recipes for it. I would imagine the gizards taste nice as a confit: Salt 1kg if them abundantly and leave to marinate 12 hours. Rinse and drain them. Warm 1kg of duck fat, add the gizards and add 3 cloves of garlic in their skins, a sprig of thyme and a bay leaf. Simmer gently for at least 1 hour. Check they are cooked, then let them cool down. These will keep, covered in the duck fat, for up to a fortnight in the fridge. In Britain all swans bilong Mrs. Kwin and I don't think she lets us eat them. B Paul http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17716268size=lg -- -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Flying Rat, European Version
Only if your name is Siegfried or Odette. On 3/24/2014 10:05 AM, Alan C wrote: So Swan Lake is a dangerous place? Alan C -Original Message- From: Paul Stenquist Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014 3:41 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: PESO Flying Rat, European Version Mute swans are much prettier than geese, but in some parts of the U.S., including Michigan, they’re just as much a problem. They are not a native species but were introduced from Europe many years ago and are considered invasive. They multiply rapidly and have squeezed out the native Trumpeter swan. They’re also very aggressive and have been known to attack people who get too close to their nests.They bite and slap with their wings, which are powerful enough to break a man’s leg. Swans are supposedly good to eat, allegedly better than their close relative, the goose. Some states have opened a swan hunting season. But most those who wish to dine on swan go for the smaller Tundra Swans. Butchering a Mute Swan is a big job. Paul On Mar 24, 2014, at 3:12 AM, Chris Mitchell chris.mitch...@which.net wrote: Very nice. I find the light bit of water at the top a little distracting - would it be better with that cropped? Not sure of the flying rat reference. They're much more elegant than that! Chris On 23 March 2014 17:54, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Shot on a lake this afternoon. K-3 DA* 60-250/4 with the 1.4X converter, f5.6, 1/2500, 350mm, ISO 400 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17716268size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO Flying Rat, European Version
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Re: PESO Flying Rat, European Version
Very nice. What was the range, Paul? You've inspired me to dig out my old Vivitar MC 2x teleconverter which I used to use with a Vivitar (A) 75-200 f4.5. I'll try that combination also with the FA100-300 f4.5-5.6 on a distant subject with the K7 see what happens. MF, of course. It will be interesting to see if the AF confirm still works at f9 - f11. Alan C -Original Message- From: Paul Stenquist Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2014 7:54 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: PESO Flying Rat, European Version Shot on a lake this afternoon. K-3 DA* 60-250/4 with the 1.4X converter, f5.6, 1/2500, 350mm, ISO 400 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17716268size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Flying Rat, European Version
Thanks Alan. Not sure what the range might have been. I would guesstimate it at about 75 feet. On Mar 23, 2014, at 2:32 PM, Alan C c...@lantic.net wrote: Very nice. What was the range, Paul? You've inspired me to dig out my old Vivitar MC 2x teleconverter which I used to use with a Vivitar (A) 75-200 f4.5. I'll try that combination also with the FA100-300 f4.5-5.6 on a distant subject with the K7 see what happens. MF, of course. It will be interesting to see if the AF confirm still works at f9 - f11. Alan C -Original Message- From: Paul Stenquist Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2014 7:54 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: PESO Flying Rat, European Version Shot on a lake this afternoon. K-3 DA* 60-250/4 with the 1.4X converter, f5.6, 1/2500, 350mm, ISO 400 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17716268size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Flying Rat, European Version
I’ve tried autofocus at up to f22 with the 1.5X and the DA8 60-250, and it worked fine, although that was with a high contrast scene. On Mar 23, 2014, at 2:32 PM, Alan C c...@lantic.net wrote: Very nice. What was the range, Paul? You've inspired me to dig out my old Vivitar MC 2x teleconverter which I used to use with a Vivitar (A) 75-200 f4.5. I'll try that combination also with the FA100-300 f4.5-5.6 on a distant subject with the K7 see what happens. MF, of course. It will be interesting to see if the AF confirm still works at f9 - f11. Alan C -Original Message- From: Paul Stenquist Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2014 7:54 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: PESO Flying Rat, European Version Shot on a lake this afternoon. K-3 DA* 60-250/4 with the 1.4X converter, f5.6, 1/2500, 350mm, ISO 400 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17716268size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Flying Rat, European Version
Quoting Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net: Shot on a lake this afternoon. K-3 DA* 60-250/4 with the 1.4X converter, f5.6, 1/2500, 350mm, ISO 400 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17716268size=lg Very nice. The diffuse reflection adds a subtle impact. But 'Flying Rat'? Seems a little harsh. Are they not widely loved? -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Flying Rat, European Version
correct me if I am wrong, but it is the maximum aperture of the lens TC that matters on an automatic lens, not what you have stopped it down to, since the AF is done with the lens wide open just before the lens is stopped down and the shutter opens. So a setting of F22 on an F5.6 setup will make no difference to the AF capability compared with say F8. Putting a TC on a slow lens is a problem because even wide open, the light levels are already too low for accurate AF. I doubt whether Alan's F9-11 combination will allow AF because this is as open as the lens can go Alastair On 24 March 2014 09:25, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: I've tried autofocus at up to f22 with the 1.5X and the DA8 60-250, and it worked fine, although that was with a high contrast scene. On Mar 23, 2014, at 2:32 PM, Alan C c...@lantic.net wrote: Very nice. What was the range, Paul? You've inspired me to dig out my old Vivitar MC 2x teleconverter which I used to use with a Vivitar (A) 75-200 f4.5. I'll try that combination also with the FA100-300 f4.5-5.6 on a distant subject with the K7 see what happens. MF, of course. It will be interesting to see if the AF confirm still works at f9 - f11. Alan C -Original Message- From: Paul Stenquist Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2014 7:54 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: PESO Flying Rat, European Version Shot on a lake this afternoon. K-3 DA* 60-250/4 with the 1.4X converter, f5.6, 1/2500, 350mm, ISO 400 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17716268size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Flying Rat, European Version
Well, actually it's the EV of the scene you're trying to focus on a bright scene even with a slow lens will. The maximum aperture of the primary lens is only a guideline. On 3/23/2014 5:47 PM, Alastair Robertson wrote: correct me if I am wrong, but it is the maximum aperture of the lens TC that matters on an automatic lens, not what you have stopped it down to, since the AF is done with the lens wide open just before the lens is stopped down and the shutter opens. So a setting of F22 on an F5.6 setup will make no difference to the AF capability compared with say F8. Putting a TC on a slow lens is a problem because even wide open, the light levels are already too low for accurate AF. I doubt whether Alan's F9-11 combination will allow AF because this is as open as the lens can go Alastair On 24 March 2014 09:25, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: I've tried autofocus at up to f22 with the 1.5X and the DA8 60-250, and it worked fine, although that was with a high contrast scene. On Mar 23, 2014, at 2:32 PM, Alan C c...@lantic.net wrote: Very nice. What was the range, Paul? You've inspired me to dig out my old Vivitar MC 2x teleconverter which I used to use with a Vivitar (A) 75-200 f4.5. I'll try that combination also with the FA100-300 f4.5-5.6 on a distant subject with the K7 see what happens. MF, of course. It will be interesting to see if the AF confirm still works at f9 - f11. Alan C -Original Message- From: Paul Stenquist Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2014 7:54 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: PESO Flying Rat, European Version Shot on a lake this afternoon. K-3 DA* 60-250/4 with the 1.4X converter, f5.6, 1/2500, 350mm, ISO 400 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17716268size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- A newspaper is a device for making the ignorant more ignorant, and the crazy, crazier. - H.L.Mencken -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Flying Rat, European Version
He's probably mute with fury at your pejorative caption. On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 1:54 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Shot on a lake this afternoon. K-3 DA* 60-250/4 with the 1.4X converter, f5.6, 1/2500, 350mm, ISO 400 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17716268size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 3/23/2014 4:58 PM, Brian Walters wrote: Quoting Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net: Shot on a lake this afternoon. K-3 DA* 60-250/4 with the 1.4X converter, f5.6, 1/2500, 350mm, ISO 400 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17716268size=lg Very nice. The diffuse reflection adds a subtle impact. But 'Flying Rat'? Seems a little harsh. Are they not widely loved? Besides, if Mute Swans are flying rats what do you call pigeons (Rock Doves)? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_Dove -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Flying Rat, European Version
On Mar 23, 2014, at 6:25 PM, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: Well, actually it's the EV of the scene you're trying to focus on a bright scene even with a slow lens will. I may have had a couple of cocktails today, but I have no idea what you’re trying to say here, and I doubt that total sobriety would help. The maximum aperture of the primary lens is only a guideline. On 3/23/2014 5:47 PM, Alastair Robertson wrote: correct me if I am wrong, but it is the maximum aperture of the lens TC that matters on an automatic lens, not what you have stopped it down to, since the AF is done with the lens wide open just before the lens is stopped down and the shutter opens. So a setting of F22 on an F5.6 setup will make no difference to the AF capability compared with say F8. Putting a TC on a slow lens is a problem because even wide open, the light levels are already too low for accurate AF. I doubt whether Alan's F9-11 combination will allow AF because this is as open as the lens can go Alastair On 24 March 2014 09:25, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: I've tried autofocus at up to f22 with the 1.5X and the DA8 60-250, and it worked fine, although that was with a high contrast scene. On Mar 23, 2014, at 2:32 PM, Alan C c...@lantic.net wrote: Very nice. What was the range, Paul? You've inspired me to dig out my old Vivitar MC 2x teleconverter which I used to use with a Vivitar (A) 75-200 f4.5. I'll try that combination also with the FA100-300 f4.5-5.6 on a distant subject with the K7 see what happens. MF, of course. It will be interesting to see if the AF confirm still works at f9 - f11. Alan C -Original Message- From: Paul Stenquist Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2014 7:54 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: PESO Flying Rat, European Version Shot on a lake this afternoon. K-3 DA* 60-250/4 with the 1.4X converter, f5.6, 1/2500, 350mm, ISO 400 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17716268size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- A newspaper is a device for making the ignorant more ignorant, and the crazy, crazier. - H.L.Mencken -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Flying Rat, European Version
Paul Stenquist blurted: I may have had a couple of cocktails today, but I have no idea what you’re trying to say here, and I doubt that total sobriety would help. Mark! On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 7:26 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: On Mar 23, 2014, at 6:25 PM, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: Well, actually it's the EV of the scene you're trying to focus on a bright scene even with a slow lens will. I may have had a couple of cocktails today, but I have no idea what you’re trying to say here, and I doubt that total sobriety would help. The maximum aperture of the primary lens is only a guideline. On 3/23/2014 5:47 PM, Alastair Robertson wrote: correct me if I am wrong, but it is the maximum aperture of the lens TC that matters on an automatic lens, not what you have stopped it down to, since the AF is done with the lens wide open just before the lens is stopped down and the shutter opens. So a setting of F22 on an F5.6 setup will make no difference to the AF capability compared with say F8. Putting a TC on a slow lens is a problem because even wide open, the light levels are already too low for accurate AF. I doubt whether Alan's F9-11 combination will allow AF because this is as open as the lens can go Alastair On 24 March 2014 09:25, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: I've tried autofocus at up to f22 with the 1.5X and the DA8 60-250, and it worked fine, although that was with a high contrast scene. On Mar 23, 2014, at 2:32 PM, Alan C c...@lantic.net wrote: Very nice. What was the range, Paul? You've inspired me to dig out my old Vivitar MC 2x teleconverter which I used to use with a Vivitar (A) 75-200 f4.5. I'll try that combination also with the FA100-300 f4.5-5.6 on a distant subject with the K7 see what happens. MF, of course. It will be interesting to see if the AF confirm still works at f9 - f11. Alan C -Original Message- From: Paul Stenquist Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2014 7:54 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: PESO Flying Rat, European Version Shot on a lake this afternoon. K-3 DA* 60-250/4 with the 1.4X converter, f5.6, 1/2500, 350mm, ISO 400 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17716268size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- A newspaper is a device for making the ignorant more ignorant, and the crazy, crazier. - H.L.Mencken -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Flying Rat, European Version
Cut and paste editing usually benefits from pasting. I cut out a big part, and tried to rearrange my thoughts, obviously I failed in more ways than one. On 3/23/2014 7:26 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: On Mar 23, 2014, at 6:25 PM, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: Well, actually it's the EV of the scene you're trying to focus on a bright scene even with a slow lens will. I may have had a couple of cocktails today, but I have no idea what you’re trying to say here, and I doubt that total sobriety would help. The maximum aperture of the primary lens is only a guideline. On 3/23/2014 5:47 PM, Alastair Robertson wrote: correct me if I am wrong, but it is the maximum aperture of the lens TC that matters on an automatic lens, not what you have stopped it down to, since the AF is done with the lens wide open just before the lens is stopped down and the shutter opens. So a setting of F22 on an F5.6 setup will make no difference to the AF capability compared with say F8. Putting a TC on a slow lens is a problem because even wide open, the light levels are already too low for accurate AF. I doubt whether Alan's F9-11 combination will allow AF because this is as open as the lens can go Alastair On 24 March 2014 09:25, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: I've tried autofocus at up to f22 with the 1.5X and the DA8 60-250, and it worked fine, although that was with a high contrast scene. On Mar 23, 2014, at 2:32 PM, Alan C c...@lantic.net wrote: Very nice. What was the range, Paul? You've inspired me to dig out my old Vivitar MC 2x teleconverter which I used to use with a Vivitar (A) 75-200 f4.5. I'll try that combination also with the FA100-300 f4.5-5.6 on a distant subject with the K7 see what happens. MF, of course. It will be interesting to see if the AF confirm still works at f9 - f11. Alan C -Original Message- From: Paul Stenquist Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2014 7:54 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: PESO Flying Rat, European Version Shot on a lake this afternoon. K-3 DA* 60-250/4 with the 1.4X converter, f5.6, 1/2500, 350mm, ISO 400 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17716268size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- A newspaper is a device for making the ignorant more ignorant, and the crazy, crazier. - H.L.Mencken -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- A newspaper is a device for making the ignorant more ignorant, and the crazy, crazier. - H.L.Mencken -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Flying Rat, European Version
Been there, done that. On Mar 23, 2014, at 10:53 PM, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: Cut and paste editing usually benefits from pasting. I cut out a big part, and tried to rearrange my thoughts, obviously I failed in more ways than one. On 3/23/2014 7:26 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: On Mar 23, 2014, at 6:25 PM, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: Well, actually it's the EV of the scene you're trying to focus on a bright scene even with a slow lens will. I may have had a couple of cocktails today, but I have no idea what you’re trying to say here, and I doubt that total sobriety would help. The maximum aperture of the primary lens is only a guideline. On 3/23/2014 5:47 PM, Alastair Robertson wrote: correct me if I am wrong, but it is the maximum aperture of the lens TC that matters on an automatic lens, not what you have stopped it down to, since the AF is done with the lens wide open just before the lens is stopped down and the shutter opens. So a setting of F22 on an F5.6 setup will make no difference to the AF capability compared with say F8. Putting a TC on a slow lens is a problem because even wide open, the light levels are already too low for accurate AF. I doubt whether Alan's F9-11 combination will allow AF because this is as open as the lens can go Alastair On 24 March 2014 09:25, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: I've tried autofocus at up to f22 with the 1.5X and the DA8 60-250, and it worked fine, although that was with a high contrast scene. On Mar 23, 2014, at 2:32 PM, Alan C c...@lantic.net wrote: Very nice. What was the range, Paul? You've inspired me to dig out my old Vivitar MC 2x teleconverter which I used to use with a Vivitar (A) 75-200 f4.5. I'll try that combination also with the FA100-300 f4.5-5.6 on a distant subject with the K7 see what happens. MF, of course. It will be interesting to see if the AF confirm still works at f9 - f11. Alan C -Original Message- From: Paul Stenquist Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2014 7:54 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: PESO Flying Rat, European Version Shot on a lake this afternoon. K-3 DA* 60-250/4 with the 1.4X converter, f5.6, 1/2500, 350mm, ISO 400 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17716268size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- A newspaper is a device for making the ignorant more ignorant, and the crazy, crazier. - H.L.Mencken -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- A newspaper is a device for making the ignorant more ignorant, and the crazy, crazier. - H.L.Mencken -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
