Re: PESO Harbour Pano
On Fri, Apr 26, 2013, Rob Studdert wrote: Just back from a short trip and two card formats later I have just worked out that my copy didn't work from the trip, so I'm down 200+ images and really p*ssed with myself for being so sloppy. In any case I have made some satisfying shots in the interim. The following is a pano sequence that I shot ANZAC day morning at sunrise, I hope you enjoy: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9304908/temp/IMG503590%20-%20IMG503608.jpg The light curve is really amazing, from the blown highlights on the left, to the darker middle, and finally lit objects on the right. I often find panos a bit gimmicky, but this nails why people try -- and it's one of the few times I've wished for a widescreen monitor. -- Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6http://rule6.info/ * * * Help a hearing-impaired person: http://rule6.info/hearing.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Harbour Pano
On 29 April 2013 10:58, Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote: Very nice! The light is excellent and the pano really gives the full view of the waterfront. Thanks Mark, it's definitely a great spot, I've taken a lot of great photos from that point (so have hundreds of thousands of tourists too of course) but it really worked for me that morning. Cheers, On 30 April 2013 05:04, Aahz Maruch a...@pobox.com wrote: The light curve is really amazing, from the blown highlights on the left, to the darker middle, and finally lit objects on the right. I often find panos a bit gimmicky, but this nails why people try -- and it's one of the few times I've wished for a widescreen monitor. Thanks Aahz, As I mentioned a bit earlier in the thread I was lazy and have currently only used the in camera jpgs to assemble the pano (as is the case normally so I don't waste time trying to make a silk purse out of a pigs ear using huge files), so I suspect that using optimised images (from RAW) I will get a much better result re dynamics plus it will be much larger as I always have my in camera jpg engine set to deliver 2MP files. I have shot lots of panos, some worked some didn't but often it's a surprise because expectations are either exceeded or are found to have been very over estimated. I've probably only shot ten or so panos that I could print large and be really pleased with. So I'm glad this one worked as well as it did becasue the trip was unplanned, the location was a last minute decision (literally) and I really took far less care than I would in a situation where I had set out initially to capture a pano. Cheers, -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO Harbour Pano
Absolutely stunning! cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com Sent: April 26, 2013 4/26/13 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: PESO Harbour Pano Hi Team, Just back from a short trip and two card formats later I have just worked out that my copy didn't work from the trip, so I'm down 200+ images and really p*ssed with myself for being so sloppy. In any case I have made some satisfying shots in the interim. The following is a pano sequence that I shot ANZAC day morning at sunrise, I hope you enjoy: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9304908/temp/IMG503590%20-%20IMG503608.jpg Cheers, -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 30 April 2013 10:07, knarftheria...@gmail.com knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Absolutely stunning! Hey Frank, thanks, I think we may have some mutual back patting thing going :) -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 28 April 2013 04:14, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: Great shot! Thanks Larry :) -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Very nice! The light is excellent and the pano really gives the full view of the waterfront. Mark On 4/26/2013 5:05 AM, Rob Studdert wrote: Hi Team, Just back from a short trip and two card formats later I have just worked out that my copy didn't work from the trip, so I'm down 200+ images and really p*ssed with myself for being so sloppy. In any case I have made some satisfying shots in the interim. The following is a pano sequence that I shot ANZAC day morning at sunrise, I hope you enjoy: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9304908/temp/IMG503590%20-%20IMG503608.jpg Cheers, -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Harbour Pano
On Apr 26, 2013, at 2:05 AM, Rob Studdert wrote: Hi Team, Just back from a short trip and two card formats later I have just worked out that my copy didn't work from the trip, so I'm down 200+ images and really p*ssed with myself for being so sloppy. In any case I have made some satisfying shots in the interim. The following is a pano sequence that I shot ANZAC day morning at sunrise, I hope you enjoy: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9304908/temp/IMG503590%20-%20IMG503608.jpg Great shot! -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO Harbour Pano
Hi Team, Just back from a short trip and two card formats later I have just worked out that my copy didn't work from the trip, so I'm down 200+ images and really p*ssed with myself for being so sloppy. In any case I have made some satisfying shots in the interim. The following is a pano sequence that I shot ANZAC day morning at sunrise, I hope you enjoy: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9304908/temp/IMG503590%20-%20IMG503608.jpg Cheers, -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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That's so tasty. I can feel that fresh morning air On 26/04/2013 7:05 PM, Rob Studdert wrote: Hi Team, Just back from a short trip and two card formats later I have just worked out that my copy didn't work from the trip, so I'm down 200+ images and really p*ssed with myself for being so sloppy. In any case I have made some satisfying shots in the interim. The following is a pano sequence that I shot ANZAC day morning at sunrise, I hope you enjoy: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9304908/temp/IMG503590%20-%20IMG503608.jpg Cheers, -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I imagine that there must be other viewpoints from which you could shoot a pano of the harbor. But in any case, whether it was forced on you by topography/geography, or whether it was your choice of a place to stand, I really like that you have the pano anchored on either end by iconic sights: the opera house and the bridge. For someone like me that just barely knows the city, it just feels right. stan On Apr 26, 2013, at 5:05 AM, Rob Studdert wrote: Hi Team, Just back from a short trip and two card formats later I have just worked out that my copy didn't work from the trip, so I'm down 200+ images and really p*ssed with myself for being so sloppy. In any case I have made some satisfying shots in the interim. The following is a pano sequence that I shot ANZAC day morning at sunrise, I hope you enjoy: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9304908/temp/IMG503590%20-%20IMG503608.jpg Cheers, -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Beautiful, Rob! Light, color, composition, just love it! Cheers, Christine On Apr 26, 2013, at 4:05 AM, Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Team, Just back from a short trip and two card formats later I have just worked out that my copy didn't work from the trip, so I'm down 200+ images and really p*ssed with myself for being so sloppy. In any case I have made some satisfying shots in the interim. The following is a pano sequence that I shot ANZAC day morning at sunrise, I hope you enjoy: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9304908/temp/IMG503590%20-%20IMG503608.jpg Cheers, -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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That image is stunning, Rob, simply stunning. Despite the wide angle of view, there is an amazing level of detail visible in the larger size, and, of course, the light is simply perfect. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 5:05 AM, Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Team, Just back from a short trip and two card formats later I have just worked out that my copy didn't work from the trip, so I'm down 200+ images and really p*ssed with myself for being so sloppy. In any case I have made some satisfying shots in the interim. The following is a pano sequence that I shot ANZAC day morning at sunrise, I hope you enjoy: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9304908/temp/IMG503590%20-%20IMG503608.jpg Cheers, -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Rob, love the pano. Lots of great detail. One can get lost in a photo like that one. pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote: Message: 4 Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 19:05:30 +1000 From: Rob Studdertdistudio.p...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net Subject: PESO Harbour Pano Message-ID: cad8aed4swbv5kxz53gqgnc+5nhuj3mynu30_fd_r5hrdz+d...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi Team, Just back from a short trip and two card formats later I have just worked out that my copy didn't work from the trip, so I'm down 200+ images and really p*ssed with myself for being so sloppy. In any case I have made some satisfying shots in the interim. The following is a pano sequence that I shot ANZAC day morning at sunrise, I hope you enjoy: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9304908/temp/IMG503590%20-%20IMG503608.jpg Cheers, -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Harbour Pano
Very well done pano! Bummer about the images lost. How many images to capture the pano and were they portrait or landscape captures? -Original Message- From: Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com Subject: PESO Harbour Pano Hi Team, Just back from a short trip and two card formats later I have just worked out that my copy didn't work from the trip, so I'm down 200+ images and really p*ssed with myself for being so sloppy. In any case I have made some satisfying shots in the interim. The following is a pano sequence that I shot ANZAC day morning at sunrise, I hope you enjoy: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9304908/temp/IMG503590%20-%20IMG503608.jpg Cheers, -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Well that's kinda' ordinary. :-D On 26 April 2013 17:05, Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Team, Just back from a short trip and two card formats later I have just worked out that my copy didn't work from the trip, so I'm down 200+ images and really p*ssed with myself for being so sloppy. In any case I have made some satisfying shots in the interim. The following is a pano sequence that I shot ANZAC day morning at sunrise, I hope you enjoy: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9304908/temp/IMG503590%20-%20IMG503608.jpg Cheers, -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Love it. Beautiful photo. On Apr 26, 2013, at 11:44 AM, Kenneth Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: Very well done pano! Bummer about the images lost. How many images to capture the pano and were they portrait or landscape captures? -Original Message- From: Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com Subject: PESO Harbour Pano Hi Team, Just back from a short trip and two card formats later I have just worked out that my copy didn't work from the trip, so I'm down 200+ images and really p*ssed with myself for being so sloppy. In any case I have made some satisfying shots in the interim. The following is a pano sequence that I shot ANZAC day morning at sunrise, I hope you enjoy: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9304908/temp/IMG503590%20-%20IMG503608.jpg Cheers, -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 26/4/13, Rob Studdert, discombobulated, unleashed: Hi Team, Just back from a short trip and two card formats later I have just worked out that my copy didn't work from the trip, so I'm down 200+ images and really p*ssed with myself for being so sloppy. In any case I have made some satisfying shots in the interim. The following is a pano sequence that I shot ANZAC day morning at sunrise, I hope you enjoy: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9304908/temp/IMG503590%20- %20IMG503608.jpg Lovely shot mate - beautiful. What's the barquentine in port there? Any more shots of her? :-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Producion --www.seeingeye.tv _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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That's great. Interesting how the newer, softer light is on the newer buildings, and the golden late afternoon light is on the older buildings. Maybe not intended, but it makes a nice statement. Marnie aka Doe :-) In a message dated 4/26/2013 2:05:58 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, distudio.p...@gmail.com writes: Hi Team, Just back from a short trip and two card formats later I have just worked out that my copy didn't work from the trip, so I'm down 200+ images and really p*ssed with myself for being so sloppy. In any case I have made some satisfying shots in the interim. The following is a pano sequence that I shot ANZAC day morning at sunrise, I hope you enjoy: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9304908/temp/IMG503590%20-%20IMG503608.j pg Cheers, -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I went back and relooked. I also like how the cloud curve on the left apes the bridge curve on the right. That is a near perfect pano. M aka D That's great. Interesting how the newer, softer light is on the newer buildings, and the golden late afternoon light is on the older buildings. Maybe not intended, but it makes a nice statement. Marnie aka Doe :-) Sent earlier, hasn't arrived yet. In a message dated 4/26/2013 2:05:58 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, distudio.p...@gmail.com writes: Hi Team, Just back from a short trip and two card formats later I have just worked out that my copy didn't work from the trip, so I'm down 200+ images and really p*ssed with myself for being so sloppy. In any case I have made some satisfying shots in the interim. The following is a pano sequence that I shot ANZAC day morning at sunrise, I hope you enjoy: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9304908/temp/IMG503590%20-%20IMG503608.j pg Cheers, -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thanks to all who viewed and particularly to those who commented :) On 26 April 2013 20:10, Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au wrote: That's so tasty. I can feel that fresh morning air Yeah, it was crisp but contrary to the weather reports pre-dawn was actually a lovely clear day. Your gallery captured the another aspect of the traditional ANZAC day, it's a strange day really, it's both celebratory and sombre. When I was with 2CH years ago I attended many Dawn services at the Cenotaph and had the very best of views being on the inside as such, I did take pics over the years there but not near as many as I wish I had now. On 26 April 2013 23:21, Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote: I imagine that there must be other viewpoints from which you could shoot a pano of the harbor. But in any case, whether it was forced on you by topography/geography, or whether it was your choice of a place to stand, I really like that you have the pano anchored on either end by iconic sights: the opera house and the bridge. For someone like me that just barely knows the city, it just feels right. Hi Stan, it was a bit of both, best unimpeded view, light where I wanted it and all the elements I wanted in the single overall composition. On 26 April 2013 23:22, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote: Beautiful, Rob! Light, color, composition, just love it! Cheers, Christine Thanks Christine, it's difficult not to be very pleased with the final image :) On 26 April 2013 23:45, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: That image is stunning, Rob, simply stunning. Despite the wide angle of view, there is an amazing level of detail visible in the larger size, and, of course, the light is simply perfect. Thanks Dan, the image was only assembled from in camera 2MP jpgs and the detail is stunning, I will when I get time repeat the process using optimized RAW files, it should be pretty impressive. On 27 April 2013 01:42, Don Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com wrote: Rob, love the pano. Lots of great detail. One can get lost in a photo like that one. Thanks Don, I was inspired to shoot an industrial night scene after viewing yours the other day, I didn't do as well but I will share it shortly, maybe you should shoot a pano? ;) On 27 April 2013 01:44, Kenneth Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: Very well done pano! Bummer about the images lost. How many images to capture the pano and were they portrait or landscape captures? Hi Ken, thanks! Over night I ran the software Recuva http://www.piriform.com/recuva and managed to undelete all the lost files, glad I did as there were many that I just could never come close to finding again. The later sessions were much small in number so the files had not yet been overwritten thankfully, but I was very lucky, it could have been a mini-disaster. The capture was 7 images in landscape orientation and all hand held, I left the pano kit in the car but it still worked well as there was little foreground detail across adjacent images. On 27 April 2013 02:12, David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com wrote: Well that's kinda' ordinary. Dude, you're hard to please, we all know that :) xxx On 27 April 2013 03:23, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Love it. Beautiful photo. Thanks Paul :) On 27 April 2013 07:38, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote: Lovely shot mate - beautiful. What's the barquentine in port there? Any more shots of her? :-) Oh dear, you have been bitten bad, I'll try to find more, otherwise I'll head in one morning and take some special pics just for you :) On 27 April 2013 08:12, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: That's great. Interesting how the newer, softer light is on the newer buildings, and the golden late afternoon light is on the older buildings. Maybe not intended, but it makes a nice statement. On 27 April 2013 08:20, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: I went back and relooked. I also like how the cloud curve on the left apes the bridge curve on the right. That is a near perfect pano. Hi Marnie, the light falling on the buildings it did was just fortuitous, I kept the sun just out of frame but the pano is almost a full 190 degrees so you can almost see the light source and its direct reflections in the one image. Thanks again, glad you liked it, 50% intent 50% good fortune I suspect. Cheers all, -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
