Re: Pentax K-01 follow-up? (or other Pentax K-mount mirrorless)
On 10/22/2013 8:05 AM, Ciprian Dorin Craciun wrote: The lack of an EVF was also a concern to me. However even though my old Fuji had one, I've seldom used it (mainly due to low resolution and small size), thus my feelings are mixed about this... Well, times change. Technology changes even at faster rate... You may be up for a pleasant surprise. But it is of course with usual disclaimer that your eyesight is certainly different than mine. I don't think that an adapter would be the best approach, mainly because I own only two "digital" lenses (and if I'm to buy new ones it would be of this sort). Thus no aperture ring. Besides that I'm not sure that manual focus is that accurate on these lenses... You're wrong, sir. My adapter has a ring that controls the aperture in continuous manner. I could do any of these: 1. Set the lens aperture at A. Turn the ring - open the aperture, focus, close the aperture by the ring looking in the EVF until the picture there looks just right in terms of DOF and shutter speed/ISO. 2. Turn the ring all the way so that the aperture is closed. Set the lens aperture to any value I want (for lenses that can do it). Take a picture. This is how I shoot most of the time. 3. Any combination of the 1 and 2 above. I admit - I only have one such lens DA 21/3.2 that I will soon be offering for sale. I haven't tried to shoot as described in p.1 above, but it is at least technically possible. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax K-01 follow-up? (or other Pentax K-mount mirrorless)
On Oct 22, 2013, at 01:25 , Larry Colen wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 01:15:00AM -0700, Joseph McAllister wrote:
>> On Oct 21, 2013, at 20:42 , Boris Liberman wrote:
>>> The only thing that I don't like about K-01 is that you cannot attach a EVF
>>> to it - you absolutely have to focus/compose by the screen. In the bright
>>> light this may prove an issue. You could buy this accessory that attaches
>>> to the back of the camera and blocks the stray light, but it would make
>>> your camera significantly bigger.
>>
>>
>> Regards non-slr cameras with LCD screens.
>>
>> I am thinking of buying a large and long bill'd baseball type hat and
>> wearing my flip-up 7.00x close-up watchmaker type plastic lenses that clip
>> on to my regular trifocals. I've tried the combo indoors and outdoors with a
>> normal baseball cap on an overcast day, and they were great. In the sun the
>> unrimmed plastic magnifiers may catch some light which may interfere.
>
> Joe,
> you may have just elevated photo-nerdery to an artform.
>
We thank ya Larry. It's always good to be elevated, socially, physically, or
chemically. Been all three, IIRC…
It's why I got me a degree in Fine Art, so I could spend more time being artsy.
{poor}
Now you have an opportunity Larry. Inventing "photo-nerdery" you must copyright
it; collect some coin!
>>
>> It would depend on the magnification of your flip-ups, but with my 1.25
>> drugstore 67mm readers and my 7.00x flip-ups, the LCD of my Pentax Q is in
>> focus from ~ 6 inches to ~7.5 inches measuring from my eyebrow, and
>> completely fills the immediate field of vision of the glasses. Bonus: You
>> can read the letters and symbols on the back of the camera without holding
>> it at arms length! And with my trifocal glasses, it's even better.
>>
>> Flip the added lenses up and they are completely out of the way as would be
>> clip-on sunglasses.
>>
>> Tracking birds or critters in the wild you are still better off with a red
>> dot scope at arms length because you can see around the camera to spot your
>> target with your spare eye. No need to look at the LCD; find target, place
>> the red dot on it (or usually just under or over it so it'd not be centered,
>> giving you some room to crop.
Joseph McAllister
Too much gear, not much time
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Re: Pentax K-01 follow-up? (or other Pentax K-mount mirrorless)
On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 01:15:00AM -0700, Joseph McAllister wrote: > On Oct 21, 2013, at 20:42 , Boris Liberman wrote: > > The only thing that I don't like about K-01 is that you cannot attach a EVF > > to it - you absolutely have to focus/compose by the screen. In the bright > > light this may prove an issue. You could buy this accessory that attaches > > to the back of the camera and blocks the stray light, but it would make > > your camera significantly bigger. > > > Regards non-slr cameras with LCD screens. > > I am thinking of buying a large and long bill'd baseball type hat and wearing > my flip-up 7.00x close-up watchmaker type plastic lenses that clip on to my > regular trifocals. I've tried the combo indoors and outdoors with a normal > baseball cap on an overcast day, and they were great. In the sun the unrimmed > plastic magnifiers may catch some light which may interfere. Joe, you may have just elevated photo-nerdery to an artform. > > It would depend on the magnification of your flip-ups, but with my 1.25 > drugstore 67mm readers and my 7.00x flip-ups, the LCD of my Pentax Q is in > focus from ~ 6 inches to ~7.5 inches measuring from my eyebrow, and > completely fills the immediate field of vision of the glasses. Bonus: You can > read the letters and symbols on the back of the camera without holding it at > arms length! And with my trifocal glasses, it's even better. > > Flip the added lenses up and they are completely out of the way as would be > clip-on sunglasses. > > Tracking birds or critters in the wild you are still better off with a red > dot scope at arms length because you can see around the camera to spot your > target with your spare eye. No need to look at the LCD; find target, place > the red dot on it (or usually just under or over it so it'd not be centered, > giving you some room to crop. > > > Joseph McAllister > pentax...@mac.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax K-01 follow-up? (or other Pentax K-mount mirrorless)
On Oct 21, 2013, at 20:42 , Boris Liberman wrote: > The only thing that I don't like about K-01 is that you cannot attach a EVF > to it - you absolutely have to focus/compose by the screen. In the bright > light this may prove an issue. You could buy this accessory that attaches to > the back of the camera and blocks the stray light, but it would make your > camera significantly bigger. Regards non-slr cameras with LCD screens. I am thinking of buying a large and long bill'd baseball type hat and wearing my flip-up 7.00x close-up watchmaker type plastic lenses that clip on to my regular trifocals. I've tried the combo indoors and outdoors with a normal baseball cap on an overcast day, and they were great. In the sun the unrimmed plastic magnifiers may catch some light which may interfere. It would depend on the magnification of your flip-ups, but with my 1.25 drugstore 67mm readers and my 7.00x flip-ups, the LCD of my Pentax Q is in focus from ~ 6 inches to ~7.5 inches measuring from my eyebrow, and completely fills the immediate field of vision of the glasses. Bonus: You can read the letters and symbols on the back of the camera without holding it at arms length! And with my trifocal glasses, it's even better. Flip the added lenses up and they are completely out of the way as would be clip-on sunglasses. Tracking birds or critters in the wild you are still better off with a red dot scope at arms length because you can see around the camera to spot your target with your spare eye. No need to look at the LCD; find target, place the red dot on it (or usually just under or over it so it'd not be centered, giving you some room to crop. Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax K-01 follow-up? (or other Pentax K-mount mirrorless)
On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 06:42:35AM +0300, Boris Liberman wrote: > On 10/21/2013 9:28 PM, Ciprian Dorin Craciun wrote: > > == THE DILEMMA == > > > > Therefore my question (or questions) is: is there any chance that > >a K-mount mirrorless will appear in the "near" future (i.e. 6 months > >till it hits the shelf)? Or should I buy the K-01 while it's still > >available in stock (I know it's out of production)? > > > > Or have I missed something which advises against the K-01? (I > >must note that I haven't read too many reviews...) > > The only thing that I don't like about K-01 is that you cannot > attach a EVF to it - you absolutely have to focus/compose by the > screen. In the bright light this may prove an issue. You could buy > this accessory that attaches to the back of the camera and blocks > the stray light, but it would make your camera significantly bigger. The one time I saw a K-01 in person, was at an outside event on a sunny day. I found the viewfinder to be surprisingly easy to see outside in sunlight. When I was out shooting yesterday I met another K-5 shooter. He also has a K-01 that he says he uses primarily for manual focus lenses because of the focus peaking. His big complaint with it is that when shooting raw it will only shoot one frame per second. > > Beside that - if you can handle the ergonomics - it's fine. > > I don't grok though why you have so much trouble with using your > Pentax lenses on other cameras. All mirrorless (or most of them) > cameras can be used with Pentax lenses via adapter. I have one such > adapter for Leica M-mount, so that I can use my A50/1.2 on Ricoh > GXR. You still get focus peaking and semi-auto mode (you set > aperture on the lens, camera sets the rest - shutter speed and ISO). > It works really well. > > As for your original question - I couldn't possibly tell whether a > follow up to K-01 will come. I would say that it is possible but > with rather low probability but it is just a guess. > > Boris > > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax K-01 follow-up? (or other Pentax K-mount mirrorless)
The K-01 was back in production, at least for a while. It returned in blue and white. http://photorumors.com/2013/07/04/pentax-k-01-marc-newson-camera-resurrected-in-blue-and-white-colors/ It was available from Adorama or B&H in that version in August IIRC. They don't seem to have them now. On 10/21/2013 2:28 PM, Ciprian Dorin Craciun wrote: (For the "meat" of the subject you could skip directly to the paragraph "THE DILEMMA". Below I add some context to it.) As I've mentioned yesterday in the thread <> I currently own a new-ish Pentax K-30 and an old FujiFilm FinePix S5600 / S5200. Although the K-30 serves me well, it fails to completely replace my Fuji S5600 for a simple reason: it's too large and heavy to easily fit into my laptop backpack (especially when I travel without photography in mind). (Even the Fuji is at the limit, however I managed to log it with me almost every day in the last few years, and everywhere I traveled.) Thus I'm looking for a "portable" replacement for the Fuji. I've looked at m4:3 (Olympus and Panasonic), Pentax Q, the Ricoh GR / GXR, Fuji, both fixed and interchangeable lenses, etc. I've even looked at point-and-shoot from various manufacturers, (including Pentax, Olympus, Nikon and Cannon) which I've disregarded due either lack of manual control or too small sensors. All (except the P&S) were nice and compact replacements, however they all failed to beat the Pentax-K01 in two respects: they are more costly (at least in my country), and they don't take K-mount lenses of which I already have two. == THE DILEMMA == Therefore my question (or questions) is: is there any chance that a K-mount mirrorless will appear in the "near" future (i.e. 6 months till it hits the shelf)? Or should I buy the K-01 while it's still available in stock (I know it's out of production)? Or have I missed something which advises against the K-01? (I must note that I haven't read too many reviews...) Feedback is much appreciated, Ciprian. -- A newspaper is a device for making the ignorant more ignorant, and the crazy, crazier. - H.L.Mencken -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax K-01 follow-up? (or other Pentax K-mount mirrorless)
On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 6:42 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: > On 10/21/2013 9:28 PM, Ciprian Dorin Craciun wrote: >> >> == THE DILEMMA == >> >> Therefore my question (or questions) is: is there any chance that >> a K-mount mirrorless will appear in the "near" future (i.e. 6 months >> till it hits the shelf)? Or should I buy the K-01 while it's still >> available in stock (I know it's out of production)? >> >> Or have I missed something which advises against the K-01? (I >> must note that I haven't read too many reviews...) > > > The only thing that I don't like about K-01 is that you cannot attach a EVF > to it - you absolutely have to focus/compose by the screen. In the bright > light this may prove an issue. The lack of an EVF was also a concern to me. However even though my old Fuji had one, I've seldom used it (mainly due to low resolution and small size), thus my feelings are mixed about this... > I don't grok though why you have so much trouble with using your Pentax > lenses on other cameras. All mirrorless (or most of them) cameras can be > used with Pentax lenses via adapter. I have one such adapter for Leica > M-mount, so that I can use my A50/1.2 on Ricoh GXR. You still get focus > peaking and semi-auto mode (you set aperture on the lens, camera sets the > rest - shutter speed and ISO). It works really well. I don't think that an adapter would be the best approach, mainly because I own only two "digital" lenses (and if I'm to buy new ones it would be of this sort). Thus no aperture ring. Besides that I'm not sure that manual focus is that accurate on these lenses... > As for your original question - I couldn't possibly tell whether a follow up > to K-01 will come. I would say that it is possible but with rather low > probability but it is just a guess. That was my feeling also... Thanks for the feedback! Ciprian. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax K-01 follow-up? (or other Pentax K-mount mirrorless)
On 10/21/2013 9:28 PM, Ciprian Dorin Craciun wrote: == THE DILEMMA == Therefore my question (or questions) is: is there any chance that a K-mount mirrorless will appear in the "near" future (i.e. 6 months till it hits the shelf)? Or should I buy the K-01 while it's still available in stock (I know it's out of production)? Or have I missed something which advises against the K-01? (I must note that I haven't read too many reviews...) The only thing that I don't like about K-01 is that you cannot attach a EVF to it - you absolutely have to focus/compose by the screen. In the bright light this may prove an issue. You could buy this accessory that attaches to the back of the camera and blocks the stray light, but it would make your camera significantly bigger. Beside that - if you can handle the ergonomics - it's fine. I don't grok though why you have so much trouble with using your Pentax lenses on other cameras. All mirrorless (or most of them) cameras can be used with Pentax lenses via adapter. I have one such adapter for Leica M-mount, so that I can use my A50/1.2 on Ricoh GXR. You still get focus peaking and semi-auto mode (you set aperture on the lens, camera sets the rest - shutter speed and ISO). It works really well. As for your original question - I couldn't possibly tell whether a follow up to K-01 will come. I would say that it is possible but with rather low probability but it is just a guess. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Pentax K-01 follow-up? (or other Pentax K-mount mirrorless)
(For the "meat" of the subject you could skip directly to the paragraph "THE DILEMMA". Below I add some context to it.) As I've mentioned yesterday in the thread <> I currently own a new-ish Pentax K-30 and an old FujiFilm FinePix S5600 / S5200. Although the K-30 serves me well, it fails to completely replace my Fuji S5600 for a simple reason: it's too large and heavy to easily fit into my laptop backpack (especially when I travel without photography in mind). (Even the Fuji is at the limit, however I managed to log it with me almost every day in the last few years, and everywhere I traveled.) Thus I'm looking for a "portable" replacement for the Fuji. I've looked at m4:3 (Olympus and Panasonic), Pentax Q, the Ricoh GR / GXR, Fuji, both fixed and interchangeable lenses, etc. I've even looked at point-and-shoot from various manufacturers, (including Pentax, Olympus, Nikon and Cannon) which I've disregarded due either lack of manual control or too small sensors. All (except the P&S) were nice and compact replacements, however they all failed to beat the Pentax-K01 in two respects: they are more costly (at least in my country), and they don't take K-mount lenses of which I already have two. == THE DILEMMA == Therefore my question (or questions) is: is there any chance that a K-mount mirrorless will appear in the "near" future (i.e. 6 months till it hits the shelf)? Or should I buy the K-01 while it's still available in stock (I know it's out of production)? Or have I missed something which advises against the K-01? (I must note that I haven't read too many reviews...) Feedback is much appreciated, Ciprian. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
