Re: Pentax SMC DA 18-135mm, anyone?

2011-06-13 Thread Ecke PDML
2011/6/13 Christine Nielsen ch...@inielsen.net:

 You mean, like the red photo me pumps?

 Something along those lines might help if I want to blend in to the
 local scene.  The town we are staying in, Sitges, is a  summer
 destination well-known as a hedonistic fleshpot ( I quote from the
 guidebook, here, not my own description...).  If you'll pardon me for
 saying so, you would like it, I think.  :)

Are you bringing your sister Brigitte then? :]

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Re: Pentax SMC DA 18-135mm, anyone?

2011-06-13 Thread Christine Nielsen
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 1:08 PM, Ecke PDML overpenta...@googlemail.com wrote:
 2011/6/13 Christine Nielsen ch...@inielsen.net:

 You mean, like the red photo me pumps?

 Something along those lines might help if I want to blend in to the
 local scene.  The town we are staying in, Sitges, is a  summer
 destination well-known as a hedonistic fleshpot ( I quote from the
 guidebook, here, not my own description...).  If you'll pardon me for
 saying so, you would like it, I think.  :)

 Are you bringing your sister Brigitte then? :]


Har.  If I were part of that gene pool... well... my what-to-wear
conundrum would be quite different, wouldn't it?  For example, the
bathing suit question: one or two-piece?  would be simply:  yes or no?

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Re: Pentax SMC DA 18-135mm, anyone?

2011-06-13 Thread Larry Colen

On Jun 13, 2011, at 6:09 AM, Christine Nielsen wrote:

 On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 11:59 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
 
 On Jun 12, 2011, at 7:52 AM, Christine Nielsen wrote:
 
 On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 12:27 PM, Christine Aguila
 christ...@caguila.com wrote:
 
 
 Thanks for the response, Christine, you've given me some great food
 for thought and the more I think about it, the more I like the
 idea of the 21mm.  A great focal length, and that it's a pancake is
 a huge plus.   H  maybe you can help me decide which shoes to
 pack, too?
 
 You mean, like the red photo me pumps?
 
 Something along those lines might help if I want to blend in to the
 local scene.  The town we are staying in, Sitges, is a  summer
 destination well-known as a hedonistic fleshpot ( I quote from the
 guidebook, here, not my own description...).  If you'll pardon me for
 saying so, you would like it, I think.  :)

Y-chromosome?  check
pulse?  check

Yup, I'd probably enjoy a hedonistic fleshpot.

 

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Re: Pentax SMC DA 18-135mm, anyone?

2011-06-13 Thread Ecke PDML
2011/6/13 Christine Nielsen ch...@inielsen.net:

 Har.  If I were part of that gene pool... well...

you mean the murky spot over at the shallow end?

 my what-to-wear
 conundrum would be quite different, wouldn't it?  For example, the
 bathing suit question: one or two-piece?  would be simply:  yes or no?

yeah and getting refurbs would be normal... no more new lenses... VVEG

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Re: Pentax SMC DA 18-135mm, anyone?

2011-06-13 Thread Thibouille
Christine, putting your 17-70 on your istD may be a bad idea if you
didn't think about the fact you'll lose the AF.

17-70 is SDM-only and istD can't do SDM, I'm sorry to say.

2011/6/12 Christine Nielsen ch...@inielsen.net:
 On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 10:25 PM, John Coyle jco...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 Said this before, but in Egypt I took just the 16-45 and 50-200, and didn't 
 have any
 coverage problems. I wasn't going to be shooting sport so I didn't need 
 something with
 longer reach, and the short lens was fine for interiors, temples etc.
 This year we're going to Italy, and I'll take the same kit: only one 
 potential lens change
 to be considered,  it's light, and that's a consideration too since we tend 
 to do a lot of
 walking when on holiday.
 I'd recommend you take just the 17-70 and 50-135 plus a flash.  The flash is 
 far more
 useful than a wider aperture lens for holiday photography, in my experience.

 Yes, I'll definitely throw my flash into the bag as well... And I'll
 probably put the 17-70 on my old *ist for my son to use, and that way,
 it'll be there if I really want it... My long-term goal is to nurture
 photographers in my family, so that there will always be plenty of
 gear to share...!


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Re: Pentax SMC DA 18-135mm, anyone?

2011-06-13 Thread Christine Nielsen
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 4:23 AM, Thibouille pentaxl...@gmail.com wrote:

 Christine, putting your 17-70 on your istD may be a bad idea if you
 didn't think about the fact you'll lose the AF.

I didn't think about that!  I've never used the two together before,
so I hadn't had that face-palm moment yet.   Thanks for the reminder.

:)
-c

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Re: Pentax SMC DA 18-135mm, anyone?

2011-06-13 Thread Christine Nielsen
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 1:42 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote:


 Or it could mean that a conditional probability of these people being a bit
 of Pentax fanboys is actually increased with pixel count of their cameras
 (K-5 having the highest pixel count among those with K-mount).

Haha.  Good thing I'll never be a fanboy...

:)
-c

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Re: Pentax SMC DA 18-135mm, anyone?

2011-06-13 Thread Christine Nielsen
On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 11:59 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:

 On Jun 12, 2011, at 7:52 AM, Christine Nielsen wrote:

 On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 12:27 PM, Christine Aguila
 christ...@caguila.com wrote:


 Thanks for the response, Christine, you've given me some great food
 for thought and the more I think about it, the more I like the
 idea of the 21mm.  A great focal length, and that it's a pancake is
 a huge plus.   H  maybe you can help me decide which shoes to
 pack, too?

 You mean, like the red photo me pumps?

Something along those lines might help if I want to blend in to the
local scene.  The town we are staying in, Sitges, is a  summer
destination well-known as a hedonistic fleshpot ( I quote from the
guidebook, here, not my own description...).  If you'll pardon me for
saying so, you would like it, I think.  :)

-c





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Re: Pentax SMC DA 18-135mm, anyone?

2011-06-12 Thread Christine Nielsen
On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 12:22 PM, Ecke PDML overpenta...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Tempted. But now that I have the FA 28-105/3.2-4.5 I'll rather shop
 for a zoom that goes wider than my DA*16-50 so I won't be able to
 report.
 Sorry
 Ecke


Oh that's ok...  but maybe I could trade you a seen-better-days
condition 18-55 kit lens for that 16-50?  Then I'd be all set.

;)
-c

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Re: Pentax SMC DA 18-135mm, anyone?

2011-06-12 Thread Christine Nielsen
On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 12:27 PM, Christine Aguila
christ...@caguila.com wrote:
 Hi Christine:    For our recent trip, I took the DA 21mm  the DA* 50-135mm.
 The DA 21 covered indoor museum, storefront streetscape, playful portraits
 of Darrel on the street, you know, the usual playful tourist walkabout
 stuff.   I needed the 50-135mm for the distance stuff--domes of buildings,
 as well as for close-up architectural details--and the 50-135mm is good for
 *across the street* reportage.  If you will be in the country side at all,
 you'll probably want the 50-135mm as well.  I love the DA 21mm as much as I
 love the DA* 50-135mm.  If for some reason I had to go ultra, ultra light,
 I'd take the DA 21mm  the FA 50mm 1.4.


Thanks for the response, Christine, you've given me some great food
for thought and the more I think about it, the more I like the
idea of the 21mm.  A great focal length, and that it's a pancake is
a huge plus.   H  maybe you can help me decide which shoes to
pack, too?

:)
-c

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Re: Pentax SMC DA 18-135mm, anyone?

2011-06-12 Thread Christine Nielsen
On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 12:27 PM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote:


 Christine, the on-line reviews of 18-135 are a mixed bag. I attribute it
 either to significant sample variation or to potential bias of the reviewer.

I know... it can be hard to sort out the truth in online reviews (of
all kinds).  It did seem that those who were happiest with the lens
had a k-5... which introduces a whole 'nother kind of enablement
crisis..

 Ultimately it depends on your shooting style and your willingness to carry
 bulk and weight. Personally, I traveled several times with a small set of
 primes (21, 43, 77 or even 21 and 50) and it worked for me. I don't
 particularly like shooting longer than 77 mm on APS-C camera so that I
 cannot say too much about 50-135. Assuming Barcelona is similar to Oslo,
 Brussels, London or Prague that I visited, (speaking purely
 photographically, of course) I'd go for a quality wider lens and worry less
 for telephoto end.

Another vote for the 21mm!  For my own shooting style, I prefer to
keep things simple.  I am deathly afraid of fumbling an expensive lens
on a busy city sidewalk or onto the sand at the beach.  So, I'm not
sure I'd have the courage to take a set of primes on a family trip...
But I like the idea of the 21 plus the 50-135 and/or the 50...

 It would make Pentax great good to introduce DA* 16-50 with the same AF
 motor as there is in 18-135, but I recall they said specifically that they
 won't...

Any luck on your trade?  I made Ecke an offer for his, but haven't
heard back yet.  ;)

Thanks,
-c

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Re: Pentax SMC DA 18-135mm, anyone?

2011-06-12 Thread Christine Nielsen
On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:



 Rather than spending money to buy a new lens, bring me along, and I'll share 
 my lenses with you.



There's a thought.  A ticket to Spain just might be cheaper than the
lenses...  :)




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Re: Pentax SMC DA 18-135mm, anyone?

2011-06-12 Thread Christine Nielsen
On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 6:27 PM, Jim King jamesk8...@mac.com wrote:


 All said, it's fine for my intended purpose but certainly below Pentax's DA 
 50-135 in IQ.  If you're taking snaps it will be fine; for critical work 
 where edge-to-edge sharpness is needed it probably is not what you are 
 looking for.

That's where I'm having trouble leaving the 50-135 at home... it is a
family vacation we're talking about, but, still... when am I going to
get back to Barcelona?  Shouldn't I bring/use the best equipment I
have?

I think I might do as you did, though, and keep an eye out for a used
18-135... even if not for this trip, but to try out closer to home 
see if the super-zoom fits in to the line-up.

Thanks, Jim.

-c

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Re: Pentax SMC DA 18-135mm, anyone?

2011-06-12 Thread Christine Nielsen
On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 8:31 PM, Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:
 The latest issue (July 2011) of Popular Photography contains a review of
 this lens. Biggest negative they mention is the street price - $500 USD. All
 in all they like it from the excellent subjective Quality Ratings to the
 placement of the manual focusing ring - closest to the mount as opposed to
 other Pentax Zooms with the focus ring out past the zoom ring.


Thanks, Ken -- I'll look for that issue.

-c

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Re: Pentax SMC DA 18-135mm, anyone?

2011-06-12 Thread Christine Nielsen
On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 10:25 PM, John Coyle jco...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 Said this before, but in Egypt I took just the 16-45 and 50-200, and didn't 
 have any
 coverage problems. I wasn't going to be shooting sport so I didn't need 
 something with
 longer reach, and the short lens was fine for interiors, temples etc.
 This year we're going to Italy, and I'll take the same kit: only one 
 potential lens change
 to be considered,  it's light, and that's a consideration too since we tend 
 to do a lot of
 walking when on holiday.
 I'd recommend you take just the 17-70 and 50-135 plus a flash.  The flash is 
 far more
 useful than a wider aperture lens for holiday photography, in my experience.

Yes, I'll definitely throw my flash into the bag as well... And I'll
probably put the 17-70 on my old *ist for my son to use, and that way,
it'll be there if I really want it... My long-term goal is to nurture
photographers in my family, so that there will always be plenty of
gear to share...!

-c

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Re: Pentax SMC DA 18-135mm, anyone?

2011-06-12 Thread Christine Nielsen
On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 12:56 AM, Tim Bray tb...@textuality.com wrote:
 The 50-135 is a brilliant lens but it's awfully big  heavy.  I don't
 take it along on biz trips for that reason.  But for serious tourism
 where I expect to encounter extreme beauty, sure.

Agreed.  I think Barcelona could be 50-135-worthy...

 Of my lenses, the 21mm is the one absolute must-have.  The 21mm and
 40mm are a good  very compact pair.  Recently I've been taking the
 100mm macro because it's quite a bit lighter than the 50-135;
 particularly if I expect to do any portraiture. -T

Yet another vote for the 21mm!  Hmm...  I also have the 100mm macro,
but it's the older model... a tank in  of itself.  I'd have to
compare side-by-side to see if there's a significant weight
difference.

Thanks for the input,
-c

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Re: Pentax SMC DA 18-135mm, anyone?

2011-06-12 Thread Larry Colen

On Jun 12, 2011, at 7:52 AM, Christine Nielsen wrote:

 On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 12:27 PM, Christine Aguila
 christ...@caguila.com wrote:
 
 
 Thanks for the response, Christine, you've given me some great food
 for thought and the more I think about it, the more I like the
 idea of the 21mm.  A great focal length, and that it's a pancake is
 a huge plus.   H  maybe you can help me decide which shoes to
 pack, too?

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Re: Pentax SMC DA 18-135mm, anyone?

2011-06-12 Thread Ecke PDML
2011/6/12 Christine Nielsen ch...@inielsen.net:

 Oh that's ok...  but maybe I could trade you a seen-better-days
 condition 18-55 kit lens for that 16-50?  Then I'd be all set.

If you could just send me better days than I've seen lately, I'd let
you have the lens in an instant...

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Re: Pentax SMC DA 18-135mm, anyone?

2011-06-12 Thread Boris Liberman

On 6/12/2011 17:55, Christine Nielsen wrote:

I know... it can be hard to sort out the truth in online reviews (of
all kinds).  It did seem that those who were happiest with the lens
had a k-5... which introduces a whole 'nother kind of enablement
crisis..


Or it could mean that a conditional probability of these people being a 
bit of Pentax fanboys is actually increased with pixel count of their 
cameras (K-5 having the highest pixel count among those with K-mount).


Realistically and seriously the lens that has only average 
resolution/sharpness  would likely have more trouble with K-5 due to its 
higher pixel density.



Another vote for the 21mm!  For my own shooting style, I prefer to
keep things simple.  I am deathly afraid of fumbling an expensive lens
on a busy city sidewalk or onto the sand at the beach.  So, I'm not
sure I'd have the courage to take a set of primes on a family trip...
But I like the idea of the 21 plus the 50-135 and/or the 50...


The smaller lens, the more fumbling you would have to be to inflict any 
damage on your gear. To that end 50-135 may be ill-advised.


I should point out the obvious - no matter what gear you'd take, it is 
very likely that you'd see scenes that you'd like to photograph but 
couldn't be able to - no suitable lens with you at the moment, too far 
away, too close, too wide, too narrow, no tripod at hand, etc.



Any luck on your trade?  I made Ecke an offer for his, but haven't
heard back yet.  ;)


I cannot say that I am all set on that. May be I'd just buy DA 16-45/4 
(after all K-5 has a very good sensor) and settle for that. Or even I 
can stay with that Sigma 24-60/2.8 despite some of its imperfections.


Boris

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Pentax SMC DA 18-135mm, anyone?

2011-06-11 Thread Christine Nielsen
Hello all,

Curious if anyone has tried or been tempted by this one?

I'll be traveling to Barcelona in a couple of weeks, and am
experiencing a pre-trip enablement crisis of sorts.  Last summer, I
packed light for our summer vacation, with only one 17-70 lens, and I
kind of regretted it.  So, this summer, my original plan was to bring
along my k-7, the sigma 17-70 lens, the pentax 50-135, and 50/1.4.
But, I wonder how much patience I'll have for lens-swapping 
lens-schlepping on the family vaca, and maybe the 18-135 (for day),
plus the 50/1.4 (evening wear) is a better solution.  Then again,  why
own the lovely 50-135, and not bring it?  OTOH, I bet the 18-135 is a
fine substitute for the sigma, though not as fast by a stop.

My dilemma gets down to the question of the travel lens... assuming
you are not on photo safari, does it make sense to have a super-zoom
for travel, and leave the super-nice lens at home?  Security, packing
light, ease of use all factor in... but, also image quality... what
say you?

I am also experiencing a pre-trip wardrobe crisis, but I think I'll
have to seek help on another list for that one.

:)
Thanks,
-c

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Re: Pentax SMC DA 18-135mm, anyone?

2011-06-11 Thread Ecke PDML
Tempted. But now that I have the FA 28-105/3.2-4.5 I'll rather shop
for a zoom that goes wider than my DA*16-50 so I won't be able to
report.
Sorry
Ecke

2011/6/11 Christine Nielsen ch...@inielsen.net:
 Hello all,

 Curious if anyone has tried or been tempted by this one?

 I'll be traveling to Barcelona in a couple of weeks, and am
 experiencing a pre-trip enablement crisis of sorts.  Last summer, I
 packed light for our summer vacation, with only one 17-70 lens, and I
 kind of regretted it.  So, this summer, my original plan was to bring
 along my k-7, the sigma 17-70 lens, the pentax 50-135, and 50/1.4.
 But, I wonder how much patience I'll have for lens-swapping 
 lens-schlepping on the family vaca, and maybe the 18-135 (for day),
 plus the 50/1.4 (evening wear) is a better solution.  Then again,  why
 own the lovely 50-135, and not bring it?  OTOH, I bet the 18-135 is a
 fine substitute for the sigma, though not as fast by a stop.

 My dilemma gets down to the question of the travel lens... assuming
 you are not on photo safari, does it make sense to have a super-zoom
 for travel, and leave the super-nice lens at home?  Security, packing
 light, ease of use all factor in... but, also image quality... what
 say you?

 I am also experiencing a pre-trip wardrobe crisis, but I think I'll
 have to seek help on another list for that one.

 :)
 Thanks,
 -c

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Re: Pentax SMC DA 18-135mm, anyone?

2011-06-11 Thread Christine Aguila
Hi Christine:For our recent trip, I took the DA 21mm  the DA* 50-135mm. 
The DA 21 covered indoor museum, storefront streetscape, playful portraits 
of Darrel on the street, you know, the usual playful tourist walkabout 
stuff.   I needed the 50-135mm for the distance stuff--domes of buildings, 
as well as for close-up architectural details--and the 50-135mm is good for 
*across the street* reportage.  If you will be in the country side at all, 
you'll probably want the 50-135mm as well.  I love the DA 21mm as much as I 
love the DA* 50-135mm.  If for some reason I had to go ultra, ultra light, 
I'd take the DA 21mm  the FA 50mm 1.4.


As to lens swapping, I try to think about what our day's itinerary is and 
start with the most appropriate lens--works pretty good, but, of course, 
there are always exceptions and you have to lens change, but that's just 
part of photography.  HTH.  Have a great trip!  Cheers, Christine/Chicago




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Subject: Pentax SMC DA 18-135mm, anyone?



Hello all,

Curious if anyone has tried or been tempted by this one?

I'll be traveling to Barcelona in a couple of weeks, and am
experiencing a pre-trip enablement crisis of sorts.  Last summer, I
packed light for our summer vacation, with only one 17-70 lens, and I
kind of regretted it.  So, this summer, my original plan was to bring
along my k-7, the sigma 17-70 lens, the pentax 50-135, and 50/1.4.
But, I wonder how much patience I'll have for lens-swapping 
lens-schlepping on the family vaca, and maybe the 18-135 (for day),
plus the 50/1.4 (evening wear) is a better solution.  Then again,  why
own the lovely 50-135, and not bring it?  OTOH, I bet the 18-135 is a
fine substitute for the sigma, though not as fast by a stop.

My dilemma gets down to the question of the travel lens... assuming
you are not on photo safari, does it make sense to have a super-zoom
for travel, and leave the super-nice lens at home?  Security, packing
light, ease of use all factor in... but, also image quality... what
say you?

I am also experiencing a pre-trip wardrobe crisis, but I think I'll
have to seek help on another list for that one.

:)
Thanks,
-c

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Re: Pentax SMC DA 18-135mm, anyone?

2011-06-11 Thread Boris Liberman

On 6/11/2011 18:48, Christine Nielsen wrote:

I'll be traveling to Barcelona in a couple of weeks, and am
experiencing a pre-trip enablement crisis of sorts.  Last summer, I
packed light for our summer vacation, with only one 17-70 lens, and I
kind of regretted it.  So, this summer, my original plan was to bring
along my k-7, the sigma 17-70 lens, the pentax 50-135, and 50/1.4.
But, I wonder how much patience I'll have for lens-swapping
lens-schlepping on the family vaca, and maybe the 18-135 (for day),
plus the 50/1.4 (evening wear) is a better solution.  Then again,  why
own the lovely 50-135, and not bring it?  OTOH, I bet the 18-135 is a
fine substitute for the sigma, though not as fast by a stop.

My dilemma gets down to the question of the travel lens... assuming
you are not on photo safari, does it make sense to have a super-zoom
for travel, and leave the super-nice lens at home?  Security, packing
light, ease of use all factor in... but, also image quality... what
say you?


Christine, the on-line reviews of 18-135 are a mixed bag. I attribute it 
either to significant sample variation or to potential bias of the 
reviewer.


Ultimately it depends on your shooting style and your willingness to 
carry bulk and weight. Personally, I traveled several times with a small 
set of primes (21, 43, 77 or even 21 and 50) and it worked for me. I 
don't particularly like shooting longer than 77 mm on APS-C camera so 
that I cannot say too much about 50-135. Assuming Barcelona is similar 
to Oslo, Brussels, London or Prague that I visited, (speaking purely 
photographically, of course) I'd go for a quality wider lens and worry 
less for telephoto end.


It would make Pentax great good to introduce DA* 16-50 with the same AF 
motor as there is in 18-135, but I recall they said specifically that 
they won't...


Boris

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Re: Pentax SMC DA 18-135mm, anyone?

2011-06-11 Thread Larry Colen

On Jun 11, 2011, at 8:48 AM, Christine Nielsen wrote:

 Hello all,
 
 Curious if anyone has tried or been tempted by this one?

I've got my 18-250, which can be a little soft when pushed hard but which is 
usually plenty sharp enough. It's also a lot lighter and a bit smaller than my 
16-50.

I love my DA40 but have been very tempted by the DA35 macro as a walkabout lens.

I'd want to have least one fast prime in the standard, i.e. 25-40mm range, 
i.e. f/1.8 or faster.  I don't remember which body you have, but with the K-5 I 
can get away with lenses as slow as 2.8 a lot more often than I'd expect.


 
 I'll be traveling to Barcelona in a couple of weeks, and am
 experiencing a pre-trip enablement crisis of sorts.  


Rather than spending money to buy a new lens, bring me along, and I'll share my 
lenses with you.


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Re: Pentax SMC DA 18-135mm, anyone?

2011-06-11 Thread Jim King
Christine Nielsen wrote on Sat, 11 Jun 2011 08:49:30 -0700

 Hello all,
 
 Curious if anyone has tried or been tempted by this one?
 
 I'll be traveling to Barcelona in a couple of weeks, and am
 experiencing a pre-trip enablement crisis of sorts.  Last summer, I
 packed light for our summer vacation, with only one 17-70 lens, and I
 kind of regretted it.  So, this summer, my original plan was to bring
 along my k-7, the sigma 17-70 lens, the pentax 50-135, and 50/1.4.
 But, I wonder how much patience I'll have for lens-swapping 
 lens-schlepping on the family vaca, and maybe the 18-135 (for day),
 plus the 50/1.4 (evening wear) is a better solution.  Then again,  why
 own the lovely 50-135, and not bring it?  OTOH, I bet the 18-135 is a
 fine substitute for the sigma, though not as fast by a stop.
 
 My dilemma gets down to the question of the travel lens... assuming
 you are not on photo safari, does it make sense to have a super-zoom
 for travel, and leave the super-nice lens at home?  Security, packing
 light, ease of use all factor in... but, also image quality... what
 say you?
 

I have a copy of this lens - bought it used for a good price as I wanted a WR 
travel zoom.  I found it to be very sharp in the center of the image but a bit 
weak in the corners, and the IQ drops off at the long end as you might expect.  
I think that the Photozone review is too harsh, at least for my copy.

All said, it's fine for my intended purpose but certainly below Pentax's DA 
50-135 in IQ.  If you're taking snaps it will be fine; for critical work where 
edge-to-edge sharpness is needed it probably is not what you are looking for.

Regards, Jim

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Re: Pentax SMC DA 18-135mm, anyone?

2011-06-11 Thread Ken Waller
The latest issue (July 2011) of Popular Photography contains a review of 
this lens. Biggest negative they mention is the street price - $500 USD. All 
in all they like it from the excellent subjective Quality Ratings to the 
placement of the manual focusing ring - closest to the mount as opposed to 
other Pentax Zooms with the focus ring out past the zoom ring.


Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

- Original Message - 
From: Christine Nielsen ch...@inielsen.net

Subject: Pentax SMC DA 18-135mm, anyone?



Hello all,

Curious if anyone has tried or been tempted by this one?

I'll be traveling to Barcelona in a couple of weeks, and am
experiencing a pre-trip enablement crisis of sorts.  Last summer, I
packed light for our summer vacation, with only one 17-70 lens, and I
kind of regretted it.  So, this summer, my original plan was to bring
along my k-7, the sigma 17-70 lens, the pentax 50-135, and 50/1.4.
But, I wonder how much patience I'll have for lens-swapping 
lens-schlepping on the family vaca, and maybe the 18-135 (for day),
plus the 50/1.4 (evening wear) is a better solution.  Then again,  why
own the lovely 50-135, and not bring it?  OTOH, I bet the 18-135 is a
fine substitute for the sigma, though not as fast by a stop.

My dilemma gets down to the question of the travel lens... assuming
you are not on photo safari, does it make sense to have a super-zoom
for travel, and leave the super-nice lens at home?  Security, packing
light, ease of use all factor in... but, also image quality... what
say you?

I am also experiencing a pre-trip wardrobe crisis, but I think I'll
have to seek help on another list for that one.

:)
Thanks,
-c

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RE: Pentax SMC DA 18-135mm, anyone?

2011-06-11 Thread John Coyle
Said this before, but in Egypt I took just the 16-45 and 50-200, and didn't 
have any
coverage problems. I wasn't going to be shooting sport so I didn't need 
something with
longer reach, and the short lens was fine for interiors, temples etc.
This year we're going to Italy, and I'll take the same kit: only one potential 
lens change
to be considered,  it's light, and that's a consideration too since we tend to 
do a lot of
walking when on holiday.
I'd recommend you take just the 17-70 and 50-135 plus a flash.  The flash is 
far more
useful than a wider aperture lens for holiday photography, in my experience.


John Coyle
Brisbane, Australia




-Original Message-
From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of 
Christine Nielsen
Sent: Sunday, 12 June 2011 1:49 AM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Pentax SMC DA 18-135mm, anyone?

Hello all,

Curious if anyone has tried or been tempted by this one?

I'll be traveling to Barcelona in a couple of weeks, and am experiencing a 
pre-trip
enablement crisis of sorts.  Last summer, I packed light for our summer 
vacation, with
only one 17-70 lens, and I kind of regretted it.  So, this summer, my original 
plan was to
bring along my k-7, the sigma 17-70 lens, the pentax 50-135, and 50/1.4.
But, I wonder how much patience I'll have for lens-swapping  lens-schlepping 
on the
family vaca, and maybe the 18-135 (for day), plus the 50/1.4 (evening wear) is 
a better
solution.  Then again,  why own the lovely 50-135, and not bring it?  OTOH, I 
bet the
18-135 is a fine substitute for the sigma, though not as fast by a stop.

My dilemma gets down to the question of the travel lens... assuming you are 
not on photo
safari, does it make sense to have a super-zoom for travel, and leave the 
super-nice lens
at home?  Security, packing light, ease of use all factor in... but, also image 
quality...
what say you?

I am also experiencing a pre-trip wardrobe crisis, but I think I'll have to 
seek help on
another list for that one.

:)
Thanks,
-c

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Re: Pentax SMC DA 18-135mm, anyone?

2011-06-11 Thread Tim Bray
The 50-135 is a brilliant lens but it's awfully big  heavy.  I don't
take it along on biz trips for that reason.  But for serious tourism
where I expect to encounter extreme beauty, sure.

Of my lenses, the 21mm is the one absolute must-have.  The 21mm and
40mm are a good  very compact pair.  Recently I've been taking the
100mm macro because it's quite a bit lighter than the 50-135;
particularly if I expect to do any portraiture. -T

On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 7:25 PM, John Coyle jco...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 Said this before, but in Egypt I took just the 16-45 and 50-200, and didn't 
 have any
 coverage problems. I wasn't going to be shooting sport so I didn't need 
 something with
 longer reach, and the short lens was fine for interiors, temples etc.
 This year we're going to Italy, and I'll take the same kit: only one 
 potential lens change
 to be considered,  it's light, and that's a consideration too since we tend 
 to do a lot of
 walking when on holiday.
 I'd recommend you take just the 17-70 and 50-135 plus a flash.  The flash is 
 far more
 useful than a wider aperture lens for holiday photography, in my experience.


 John Coyle
 Brisbane, Australia




 -Original Message-
 From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of 
 Christine Nielsen
 Sent: Sunday, 12 June 2011 1:49 AM
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 Subject: Pentax SMC DA 18-135mm, anyone?

 Hello all,

 Curious if anyone has tried or been tempted by this one?

 I'll be traveling to Barcelona in a couple of weeks, and am experiencing a 
 pre-trip
 enablement crisis of sorts.  Last summer, I packed light for our summer 
 vacation, with
 only one 17-70 lens, and I kind of regretted it.  So, this summer, my 
 original plan was to
 bring along my k-7, the sigma 17-70 lens, the pentax 50-135, and 50/1.4.
 But, I wonder how much patience I'll have for lens-swapping  lens-schlepping 
 on the
 family vaca, and maybe the 18-135 (for day), plus the 50/1.4 (evening wear) 
 is a better
 solution.  Then again,  why own the lovely 50-135, and not bring it?  OTOH, I 
 bet the
 18-135 is a fine substitute for the sigma, though not as fast by a stop.

 My dilemma gets down to the question of the travel lens... assuming you are 
 not on photo
 safari, does it make sense to have a super-zoom for travel, and leave the 
 super-nice lens
 at home?  Security, packing light, ease of use all factor in... but, also 
 image quality...
 what say you?

 I am also experiencing a pre-trip wardrobe crisis, but I think I'll have to 
 seek help on
 another list for that one.

 :)
 Thanks,
 -c

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Re: Pentax SMC DA 18-135mm, anyone?

2011-06-11 Thread Boris Liberman

On 6/11/2011 21:42, Larry Colen wrote:

Rather than spending money to buy a new lens, bring me along, and I'll share my 
lenses with you.


Mister Roberts, your attention is required :-).

Boris

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