Re: Price differences
On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 4:55 PM, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote: on 2012-02-11 14:48 Bruce Walker wrote On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 4:04 PM, steve harleyp...@paper-ape.com wrote: on 2012-02-11 05:57 David J Brooks wrote On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 2:39 PM, steve harleyp...@paper-ape.com wrote: on 2012-02-10 09:10 David J Brooks wrote Amazon.com has the 60-250 for $1499, Amazon.ca for $1949, and Henrys for $1600+- Seems a big price swing for Amazon, no, now with parity.?? i see US$1250 direct from Amazon.com (not a third party vendor) at the moment Hum. Home delivery is usually out of the equation for obvious reasons.:-) how else can you get something delivered from Amazon? Steve, for many things Amazon.com will not ship to Canada. You are supposed to order from Amazon.ca or just forget about it. Unhappily, Amazon.ca doesn't carry much photo stuff yet, not nearly as much as Amazon.com. Kind of annoying. fine (though not obvious) ... but my point was just that i saw a very different price than David saw at the same site; i thought that was curious Sorry Steve, i should have elaborated on obvious. If anything comes via mail or courier, the wife would see it, and I do not want that.:-0 Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Price differences
On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 2:55 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Dave, use Photoprice.ca ... http://www.photoprice.ca/product/02709/Pentax-DA-60-250mm-f4.0-ED-SDM-price.html Best price locally atm is $1499 from Downtown Camera. (That's where I got my K20D.) Ah, Downtown Camera, keep forgetting about that place. Dave On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 11:10 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: Amazon.com has the 60-250 for $1499, Amazon.ca for $1949, and Henrys for $1600+- Seems a big price swing for Amazon, no, now with parity.?? Dave -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Price differences
On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 2:39 PM, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote: on 2012-02-10 09:10 David J Brooks wrote Amazon.com has the 60-250 for $1499, Amazon.ca for $1949, and Henrys for $1600+- Seems a big price swing for Amazon, no, now with parity.?? i see US$1250 direct from Amazon.com (not a third party vendor) at the moment Hum. Home delivery is usually out of the equation for obvious reasons.:-) Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Price differences
on 2012-02-11 05:57 David J Brooks wrote On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 2:39 PM, steve harleyp...@paper-ape.com wrote: on 2012-02-10 09:10 David J Brooks wrote Amazon.com has the 60-250 for $1499, Amazon.ca for $1949, and Henrys for $1600+- Seems a big price swing for Amazon, no, now with parity.?? i see US$1250 direct from Amazon.com (not a third party vendor) at the moment Hum. Home delivery is usually out of the equation for obvious reasons.:-) how else can you get something delivered from Amazon? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Price differences
On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 4:04 PM, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote: on 2012-02-11 05:57 David J Brooks wrote On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 2:39 PM, steve harleyp...@paper-ape.com wrote: on 2012-02-10 09:10 David J Brooks wrote Amazon.com has the 60-250 for $1499, Amazon.ca for $1949, and Henrys for $1600+- Seems a big price swing for Amazon, no, now with parity.?? i see US$1250 direct from Amazon.com (not a third party vendor) at the moment Hum. Home delivery is usually out of the equation for obvious reasons.:-) how else can you get something delivered from Amazon? Steve, for many things Amazon.com will not ship to Canada. You are supposed to order from Amazon.ca or just forget about it. Unhappily, Amazon.ca doesn't carry much photo stuff yet, not nearly as much as Amazon.com. Kind of annoying. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Price differences
on 2012-02-11 14:48 Bruce Walker wrote On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 4:04 PM, steve harleyp...@paper-ape.com wrote: on 2012-02-11 05:57 David J Brooks wrote On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 2:39 PM, steve harleyp...@paper-ape.comwrote: on 2012-02-10 09:10 David J Brooks wrote Amazon.com has the 60-250 for $1499, Amazon.ca for $1949, and Henrys for $1600+- Seems a big price swing for Amazon, no, now with parity.?? i see US$1250 direct from Amazon.com (not a third party vendor) at the moment Hum. Home delivery is usually out of the equation for obvious reasons.:-) how else can you get something delivered from Amazon? Steve, for many things Amazon.com will not ship to Canada. You are supposed to order from Amazon.ca or just forget about it. Unhappily, Amazon.ca doesn't carry much photo stuff yet, not nearly as much as Amazon.com. Kind of annoying. fine (though not obvious) ... but my point was just that i saw a very different price than David saw at the same site; i thought that was curious -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Price differences
on 2012-02-10 09:10 David J Brooks wrote Amazon.com has the 60-250 for $1499, Amazon.ca for $1949, and Henrys for $1600+- Seems a big price swing for Amazon, no, now with parity.?? i see US$1250 direct from Amazon.com (not a third party vendor) at the moment -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Price differences
Dave, use Photoprice.ca ... http://www.photoprice.ca/product/02709/Pentax-DA-60-250mm-f4.0-ED-SDM-price.html Best price locally atm is $1499 from Downtown Camera. (That's where I got my K20D.) On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 11:10 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: Amazon.com has the 60-250 for $1499, Amazon.ca for $1949, and Henrys for $1600+- Seems a big price swing for Amazon, no, now with parity.?? Dave -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Some Canadian istD price differences
Just did a lunch hour look at two Canadian sites,Visteck and Mc Bain Visteck(Toronto Ontario) is selling a combo istD and DA 16-45 for $2599 Can.,plus GST/PST McBain(various stores in Alberta) has the body on for $1699 and the DA 16-45 for $699,BUT, no PST just the 7% GST. Save about $420 via McBain's. No i dont work for either store, just thought i'd pass that on. Dave Brooks
Re: Some Canadian istD price differences
On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 12:40:07 US/Eastern, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just did a lunch hour look at two Canadian sites,Visteck and Mc Bain Visteck(Toronto Ontario) is selling a combo istD and DA 16-45 for $2599 Can.,plus GST/PST McBain(various stores in Alberta) has the body on for $1699 and the DA 16-45 for $699,BUT, no PST just the 7% GST. Save about $420 via McBain's. No i dont work for either store, just thought i'd pass that on. Dave Brooks Interesting... Just checked at Adorama, and the *istD is just over $1400. That's not too far off of 80% of McBains' price. And, as of this week, our Loonie (that's a Canadian dollar, since there's a pic of a Loon on it) is about 80 cents to the US dollar. So, McBains' price for the body alone is certainly competitive. Plus, shipping would be less (maybe) and there wouldn't be that pesky customs and duty thing at the border (which would really add up on something worth that much...). cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
RE: Huge price differences for photo equipment (Was polarizer before)
Actually most filters ARE COATED, even the cheap ones, just not multicoated. (Hoya still makes some REALLY CHEAP uncoated ones though). The difference between single coated and multicoated filters is extremely slight as with only two air-glass interfaces, the single coated filters have only approx 2% loss/reflection which is going to be invisible most of the time. I would avoid the uncoated ones but I am telling you they are very rare. JCO -Original Message- From: John Francis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2004 8:28 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Huge price differences for photo equipment (Was polarizer before) I paid ca. $30 for my new 58mm Hoya circular polarizer at MediaMarkt. Uncoated? HMC? S-HMC? That makes a big difference to the price. I'm happy with the performance of my SMC lenses. I don't see the point of wasting most of that benefit by putting uncoated glass at the first interface to the outside world. It's the old, old argument - why bother to buy an expensive lens if you're only going to stick a cheap filter on the front of it? I probably wouldn't pay $100 for a filter if it were only going on a $100 lens, but my FA 28-105 also takes the standard 58mm filter size. And, unfortunately, it's mostly the cheap uncoated filters that show up at the second-hand sales.
RE: Huge price differences for photo equipment (Was polarizer before)
Hi John of course you are right when it comes to the S-HMC and multicoated type of filters. They are rarely found second hand and the prices you quoted seem to be about the same here. I have never seen a S-HMC filter second hand and the yellow Pentax filter was not SMC too. I see UV or skylight HMC Hoya (Hama) filters very often second hand here. And as far as I have read B+W filters are considered to be of quite good quality, they do not mention the type of coating on the filters (51, 81B, Close-Up)) I have. -- The 58mm polarizer form Hoya I got here seems to be uncoated which would explain the low price a bit. (Nothing is written on the filter, as JCO wrote maybe it's single coated) I really like the effect of polarizers, so I use them quite often, also in the last PESO: Artbar to take out the reflections of the shop window. Whether it is useful at all to put filters on the lens (for protection etc) has been discussed before here .. ;-) greetings Markus -Original Message- From: John Francis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2004 2:28 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Huge price differences for photo equipment (Was polarizer before) I paid ca. $30 for my new 58mm Hoya circular polarizer at MediaMarkt. Uncoated? HMC? S-HMC? That makes a big difference to the price.
Re: Huge price differences for photo equipment (Was polarizer before)
Uncoated glass surface reflects 4% of the light falling on it, single coated surface reflects 1.5% and multicoated - theoretically - 0.2%. Theoretical minimum is hard to get in practice. The above according to Leica expert Günther Osterloh (in the book Angewandte Leica-Technik). All the best! Raimo K Personal photography homepage at: http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho - Original Message - From: Frantisek [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2004 3:21 PM Subject: Re: Huge price differences for photo equipment (Was polarizer before) JCOC The difference between single coated and multicoated filters JCOC is extremely slight as with only two air-glass interfaces, the JCOC single coated filters have only approx 2% loss/reflection which JCOC is going to be invisible most of the time. I would avoid the uncoated JCOC ones but I am telling you they are very rare. I beg to differ. The difference between singlecoated and multicoated filters is tremendous. Especially with light sources in the frame. Remember, it's not the reflection of the filter but the bouncing from the front element of lens into the filter and back. That's why Pentax invented the Ghostless filter back in 60s. They really work. The planar surface of the filter focuses light sources like bright bulbs perfectly back onto the film plane. I have seen many photographs where the difference between uncoated, singlecoated and MC filter shows very well, in that order of flare resistance. The uncoated are unusable, because you have a bright, in-focus secondary image of the lightbulb. Singlecoated diminish the reflection but it is still visible if there is strong contrast. MC filters or Ghostless (non-planar) filters diminish the reflection to the point of almost nothing. That's my experience, and I shoot mostly available light where contrasts are high. Good light! fra
Re: Huge price differences for photo equipment (Was polarizer before)
Ah. The Leica experts. They first reduced film format to match it to 4x6 prints then spent a fortune to develop expensive lenses that could give you some larger prints from that format. Raimo K wrote: The above according to Leica expert Günther Osterloh (in the book Angewandte Leica-Technik).
Re: Huge price differences for photo equipment (Was polarizer before)
The standard snapshot N size print for many decades was 3-1/2x4-1/2 inchs printed on 3-1/2 inch rolls. Then when 35mm became the standard (late 60's early 70's?) they increased that to 3-1/2x5 to match the 35mm negative. Then the new minilabs started using 6 rolls and offering 4x6. Now that has become standard. -- Caveman wrote: Ah. The Leica experts. They first reduced film format to match it to 4x6 prints then spent a fortune to develop expensive lenses that could give you some larger prints from that format. Raimo K wrote: The above according to Leica expert Günther Osterloh (in the book Angewandte Leica-Technik). -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com/graywolf.html
Huge price differences for photo equipment (Was polarizer before)
Hi John I often wondered before: On some parts of the world you really have to pay premium prices, I'm sorry for you... I saw what prices Frank quoted for Canada for example and I could make a small profit buying used equipment here and sell it to KEH if they really pay their suggested trade in prices. BTW, has anybody sold to KEH and what where your experiences? We seem to really have very low prices here in Switzerland especially for used equipment but also for new items in normal stores. I paid ca. $30 for my new 58mm Hoya circular polarizer at MediaMarkt, and $2 for a 52mm second hand b+w circular pol filter in my favorite second hand store. Normally the want $$5-7 per filter there but I know the staff quite well and usually get some extra discount. As written before, I got an nearly unused SFXn + Data Back FB + Makinon zoom 80-200 + M50mm 1.4 lens + manual for less than $70 and nobody was bidding on that on www.ricardo.ch. Instant buy price was ~$110. I see a *fabric new* Pentax K 300mm 4.0 lens now for instant buy price of ~$200 and a minimum price of ~$ 70. No biddings so far Maybe all the photo lovers are still on vacation but I see some pretty attractive prices here for Pentax stuff. Maybe it is simple a side effect of that move to digital. On the other side, I see higher prices in Germany on www.ebay.de for Pentax stuff. I get the filters mostly from second hand stores or flee markets and never pay more than $5-7, when I buy more than one I even get a nice discount. I even started to sell some again with a small profit over the internet. I never would buy filters new anymore, I can wait for the second hand chance :-) I got Skylight, ND4, colored filters, close up lenses and much more in 49mm, 55mm, 58mm and even 77mm for these prices, all brands like HOYA, B+W, Nikon, Olympus, Tamron and even 1 Pentax yellow filter lately :-) I must live in photographic (filter) heaven here:-) greetings Markus What $30 filter? BH want $95.50 for the 58mm B+W MRC circular polarizer, and $59.50 for the uncoated version. The Hoya HMC is $70.50, or $122.50 for the S-HMC variety. Larger sizes, of course, cost somewhat more. Like I said - a polarizer plus 2X 4X ND filters in 58mm and 77mm sizes will end up costing me pretty much the same as a full copy of PhotoShop. Hi Shaun does it really make sense replacing a $30 circular pol filter with software costing much, much more and having all the work done in Photoshop? I prefer having 2 polfilter in different filter sizes. Some people must love sitting in front of a computer :-) Just wondering greetings Markus
Re: Huge price differences for photo equipment (Was polarizer before)
I paid ca. $30 for my new 58mm Hoya circular polarizer at MediaMarkt. Uncoated? HMC? S-HMC? That makes a big difference to the price. I'm happy with the performance of my SMC lenses. I don't see the point of wasting most of that benefit by putting uncoated glass at the first interface to the outside world. It's the old, old argument - why bother to buy an expensive lens if you're only going to stick a cheap filter on the front of it? I probably wouldn't pay $100 for a filter if it were only going on a $100 lens, but my FA 28-105 also takes the standard 58mm filter size. And, unfortunately, it's mostly the cheap uncoated filters that show up at the second-hand sales.
