Re: 'Throw away camera'
On 1 June 2015 at 15:12, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: This sounds like a concept designed to fire the imagination and raise money, Yep but if you think about it, it is probably a little flawed. Really? It looks pretty well thought out to me. I think most of what you're wondering about was covered in the video or the faq. First of all, how does it maintain a desired vector, relative to the subject? faq: Lily tracks the tracking device and uses computer vision to optically follow your features. You should have the tracking device on you for Lily to follow you. I can see how it might maintain the proper distance, but how do you choose/maintain the vector and altitude? That would seem to require some sort of triangulation (perhaps it uses the subject plus a couple of GPS satellites)? Presumably the direction you toss it determines desired vector. Even if a vector can be established, is that relative vector maintained throughout the entire shoot, Yes, if that's the program you choose on the controller (follow, side, ahead)... or are there programs that allow you to slowly orbit the subject, or perhaps gently gain in altitude to give a wider perspective. ...yes (loop or fly up) Each of these things is going to require a certain halo of space for the drone to operate that the subject is going to have to be conscious of. Can anybody see a future where dozens of people are trying to operate these things on the same ski slope (for example)? Again from the faq, it doesn't have collision avoidance, so that aspect is up to the user. Speaking of which, if this works, it could be great for location and recovery of ski avalanche victims. I don't see how, it can neither see through snow nor fly more than 100ft from the controller. Besides the techinical aspects, there is the automated composition argument. If you get good footage is it because you must have a nice camera/drone or because you are a good videographer/drone pilot? Nah, it's because you've got good skis/bike ;-) -- Eric -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 'Throw away camera'
This sounds like a concept designed to fire the imagination and raise money, but if you think about it, it is probably a little flawed. First of all, how does it maintain a desired vector, relative to the subject? I can see how it might maintain the proper distance, but how do you choose/maintain the vector and altitude? That would seem to require some sort of triangulation (perhaps it uses the subject plus a couple of GPS satellites)? Presumably the direction you toss it determines desired vector. Even if a vector can be established, is that relative vector maintained throughout the entire shoot, or are there programs that allow you to slowly orbit the subject, or perhaps gently gain in altitude to give a wider perspective. Each of these things is going to require a certain halo of space for the drone to operate that the subject is going to have to be conscious of. Can anybody see a future where dozens of people are trying to operate these things on the same ski slope (for example)? Speaking of which, if this works, it could be great for location and recovery of ski avalanche victims. (Perhaps I've had too much coffee this morning). Besides the techinical aspects, there is the automated composition argument. If you get good footage is it because you must have a nice camera/drone or because you are a good videographer/drone pilot? If your DSLR could be programmed to take selfies of you from a given distance, does that mean they would all be well-composed? Automation doesn't solve everything. On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 12:31 AM, Malcolm Smith rrve...@virginmedia.com wrote: Ken Waller wrote: A very creative new camera idea- not actually available now, they apparaently need seed money to make it happen. https://www.lily.camera/ In the more open patches of forest land and along certain waterway paths, I can see this being a really useful viewpoint for mountain biking photography. This would interest me for sure. I've also started getting interested in photography around horses, and you could capture a lot of atmosphere of the stables and paddocks from above - assuming the thing doesn't make strange noises and frighten them. The only real problem I see with it, is it getting prohibited from use just about everywhere you would like to use it, because you can already see the headlines of people using it in unsuitable locations or for questionable purposes! Malcolm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Life is too short to put up with bad bokeh. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 'Throw away camera'
Horses? Noise? You don't need noise. I had a horse bolt on me catching sight of waving cloth out of the corner of it's eye. It doesn't take much strange to get on a horses nerves. On 6/1/2015 1:31 AM, Malcolm Smith wrote: Ken Waller wrote: A very creative new camera idea- not actually available now, they apparaently need seed money to make it happen. https://www.lily.camera/ In the more open patches of forest land and along certain waterway paths, I can see this being a really useful viewpoint for mountain biking photography. This would interest me for sure. I've also started getting interested in photography around horses, and you could capture a lot of atmosphere of the stables and paddocks from above - assuming the thing doesn't make strange noises and frighten them. The only real problem I see with it, is it getting prohibited from use just about everywhere you would like to use it, because you can already see the headlines of people using it in unsuitable locations or for questionable purposes! Malcolm -- I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. -- Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: 'Throw away camera'
P.J. Alling wrote: Horses? Noise? You don't need noise. I had a horse bolt on me catching sight of waving cloth out of the corner of it's eye. It doesn't take much strange to get on a horses nerves. Very much aware of this; the horse my wife currently rides is terrified of domestic wheeled rubbish bins. He will happily put up with screaming children, trucks, buses - but show him a 'horse-eating bin', even from a distance, and he goes nuts. I suppose it's part of the fun working out behind the camera what innocent thing you might do which will start them off! Using a camera at least makes a break from my part of the deal, which usually involves a wheelbarrow, an empty stable and a vast amount of horse exhaust. Malcolm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: 'Throw away camera'
Ken Waller wrote: A very creative new camera idea- not actually available now, they apparaently need seed money to make it happen. https://www.lily.camera/ In the more open patches of forest land and along certain waterway paths, I can see this being a really useful viewpoint for mountain biking photography. This would interest me for sure. I've also started getting interested in photography around horses, and you could capture a lot of atmosphere of the stables and paddocks from above - assuming the thing doesn't make strange noises and frighten them. The only real problem I see with it, is it getting prohibited from use just about everywhere you would like to use it, because you can already see the headlines of people using it in unsuitable locations or for questionable purposes! Malcolm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 'Throw away camera'
Quoting Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com: A very creative new camera idea- not actually available now, they apparaently need seed money to make it happen. https://www.lily.camera/ Obviously for the 'selfie obsessed'... Interesting concept, though. -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
