RE: Great Camera Raw Article in Photoshop User
Thans for the pointer! Albano --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Having now looked at the article in the bookstore, I don't think it adds much if anything to these materials I've already collected from the Adobe site: Digital Workflow for Raw Processing by Jeff Schewe (four-part) A Color Managed Raw Workflow by Jeff Schewe and Bruce Fraser and Highlight Recovery in Adobe Camera Raw by Jeff Schewe all listed on and accessible from this page http://www.adobe.com/digitalimag/ps_pro_primers.html So I didn't buy the magazine ... But the main reason I'm going into detail about the whereabouts of these tutorials is Albano's question about online versions of the information. I think he may find these resources useful, and IMO he won't really be missing anything by not having access to the magazine article. ERNR Albano Garcia Photography Graphic Design http://www.albanogarcia.com.ar http://www.flaneur.com.ar __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 Albano Garcia Photography Graphic Design http://www.albanogarcia.com.ar http://www.flaneur.com.ar __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/
RE: Great Camera Raw Article in Photoshop User
Quoting Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I saw the article yesterday and just briefly looked at it. Now you've made me want to take time to give it a good read. Jeff, BTW, is a consultant for Adobe's Photoshop and, iirc, has done some development work for them. Shel [Original Message] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This month's issue of Photoshop User magazine has a fabulous article about the PSCS Camera Raw converter. It's written by PSCS expert and Real World Camera Raw author Bruce Fraser along with Jeff Schewe, a top Chicago shooter. Interesting. I must look for a copy -- see if this adds anything new to the material those two have published as Adobe White Papers (on the Adobe site). ERNR
RE: Great Camera Raw Article in Photoshop User
The article is a nice condensation of some of the main points found in other places, and it includes some good demos. From what I recall of the Adobe white papers, it goes well beyond the information found there. The most important and complete Camera Raw resource is probably Bruce Fraser's book. Quoting Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I saw the article yesterday and just briefly looked at it. Now you've made me want to take time to give it a good read. Jeff, BTW, is a consultant for Adobe's Photoshop and, iirc, has done some development work for them. Shel [Original Message] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This month's issue of Photoshop User magazine has a fabulous article about the PSCS Camera Raw converter. It's written by PSCS expert and Real World Camera Raw author Bruce Fraser along with Jeff Schewe, a top Chicago shooter. Interesting. I must look for a copy -- see if this adds anything new to the material those two have published as Adobe White Papers (on the Adobe site). ERNR
RE: Great Camera Raw Article in Photoshop User
Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The article is a nice condensation of some of the main points found in other places, and it includes some good demos. From what I recall of the Adobe white papers, it goes well beyond the information found there. The most important and complete Camera Raw resource is probably Bruce Fraser's book. Having now looked at the article in the bookstore, I don't think it adds much if anything to these materials I've already collected from the Adobe site: Digital Workflow for Raw Processing by Jeff Schewe (four-part) A Color Managed Raw Workflow by Jeff Schewe and Bruce Fraser and Highlight Recovery in Adobe Camera Raw by Jeff Schewe all listed on and accessible from this page http://www.adobe.com/digitalimag/ps_pro_primers.html So I didn't buy the magazine ... But the main reason I'm going into detail about the whereabouts of these tutorials is Albano's question about online versions of the information. I think he may find these resources useful, and IMO he won't really be missing anything by not having access to the magazine article. ERNR
RE: Great Camera Raw Article in Photoshop User
I think some of those papers you mention weren't there last time I checked the adobe materials. I don't remember reading anything on the web site that really explained how the four key elements of the adjustment panel -- brightness, contrast, exposure, and shadows -- interrelate. I'll go back for another look. Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The article is a nice condensation of some of the main points found in other places, and it includes some good demos. From what I recall of the Adobe white papers, it goes well beyond the information found there. The most important and complete Camera Raw resource is probably Bruce Fraser's book. Having now looked at the article in the bookstore, I don't think it adds much if anything to these materials I've already collected from the Adobe site: Digital Workflow for Raw Processing by Jeff Schewe (four-part) A Color Managed Raw Workflow by Jeff Schewe and Bruce Fraser and Highlight Recovery in Adobe Camera Raw by Jeff Schewe all listed on and accessible from this page http://www.adobe.com/digitalimag/ps_pro_primers.html So I didn't buy the magazine ... But the main reason I'm going into detail about the whereabouts of these tutorials is Albano's question about online versions of the information. I think he may find these resources useful, and IMO he won't really be missing anything by not having access to the magazine article. ERNR
RE: Great Camera Raw Article in Photoshop User
I reread all of those adobe docs. There's some very good information in them. A Color Managed Raw Workflow provides a good plan for setting up a printing output workflow. Highlight Recovery in Adobe Camera Raw illustrates an interesting technique for combining two different Raw conversions to deal with extreme circumstances, and Digital Workflow for Raw Processing provides a nice overview of the Raw Conversion process. But none of them provide a clear example of how to work with the various Raw Converter adjustments to optimize a given file. The article does exactly that. The inter-relationship of shadow, contrast, brightness and exposure is clearly illustrated in the magazine piece. It's also nicely explained in Bruce's book. But it's not covered in depth in the Adobe papers. Paul I think some of those papers you mention weren't there last time I checked the adobe materials. I don't remember reading anything on the web site that really explained how the four key elements of the adjustment panel -- brightness, contrast, exposure, and shadows -- interrelate. I'll go back for another look. Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The article is a nice condensation of some of the main points found in other places, and it includes some good demos. From what I recall of the Adobe white papers, it goes well beyond the information found there. The most important and complete Camera Raw resource is probably Bruce Fraser's book. Having now looked at the article in the bookstore, I don't think it adds much if anything to these materials I've already collected from the Adobe site: Digital Workflow for Raw Processing by Jeff Schewe (four-part) A Color Managed Raw Workflow by Jeff Schewe and Bruce Fraser and Highlight Recovery in Adobe Camera Raw by Jeff Schewe all listed on and accessible from this page http://www.adobe.com/digitalimag/ps_pro_primers.html So I didn't buy the magazine ... But the main reason I'm going into detail about the whereabouts of these tutorials is Albano's question about online versions of the information. I think he may find these resources useful, and IMO he won't really be missing anything by not having access to the magazine article. ERNR
RE: Great Camera Raw Article in Photoshop User
Thanks for taking the time to reread and clarify Paul, and to whoever posted the white paper link. Tom C. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: RE: Great Camera Raw Article in Photoshop User Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 17:56:04 + I reread all of those adobe docs. There's some very good information in them. A Color Managed Raw Workflow provides a good plan for setting up a printing output workflow. Highlight Recovery in Adobe Camera Raw illustrates an interesting technique for combining two different Raw conversions to deal with extreme circumstances, and Digital Workflow for Raw Processing provides a nice overview of the Raw Conversion process. But none of them provide a clear example of how to work with the various Raw Converter adjustments to optimize a given file. The article does exactly that. The inter-relationship of shadow, contrast, brightness and exposure is clearly illustrated in the magazine piece. It's also nicely explained in Bruce's book. But it's not covered in depth in the Adobe papers. Paul I think some of those papers you mention weren't there last time I checked the adobe materials. I don't remember reading anything on the web site that really explained how the four key elements of the adjustment panel -- brightness, contrast, exposure, and shadows -- interrelate. I'll go back for another look. Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The article is a nice condensation of some of the main points found in other places, and it includes some good demos. From what I recall of the Adobe white papers, it goes well beyond the information found there. The most important and complete Camera Raw resource is probably Bruce Fraser's book. Having now looked at the article in the bookstore, I don't think it adds much if anything to these materials I've already collected from the Adobe site: Digital Workflow for Raw Processing by Jeff Schewe (four-part) A Color Managed Raw Workflow by Jeff Schewe and Bruce Fraser and Highlight Recovery in Adobe Camera Raw by Jeff Schewe all listed on and accessible from this page http://www.adobe.com/digitalimag/ps_pro_primers.html So I didn't buy the magazine ... But the main reason I'm going into detail about the whereabouts of these tutorials is Albano's question about online versions of the information. I think he may find these resources useful, and IMO he won't really be missing anything by not having access to the magazine article. ERNR
RE: Great Camera Raw Article in Photoshop User
I saw the article yesterday and just briefly looked at it. Now you've made me want to take time to give it a good read. Jeff, BTW, is a consultant for Adobe's Photoshop and, iirc, has done some development work for them. Shel [Original Message] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This month's issue of Photoshop User magazine has a fabulous article about the PSCS Camera Raw converter. It's written by PSCS expert and Real World Camera Raw author Bruce Fraser along with Jeff Schewe, a top Chicago shooter.
RE: Great Camera Raw Article in Photoshop User
Paul, Thanks. Is it the April or May issue? Tom C. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Great Camera Raw Article in Photoshop User Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 17:58:44 + This month's issue of Photoshop User magazine has a fabulous article about the PSCS Camera Raw converter. It's written by PSCS expert and Real World Camera Raw author Bruce Fraser along with Jeff Schewe, a top Chicago shooter. Some of the info goes well beyond Bruce's book. It uses examples actually shot by Schewe and explains some of the conversion decisions. It explains how the conversion sliders relate to a 5-point curve and why doing this during conversion is superior to working the curves in PhotoShop. I also learned that the Camera Raw converter has an extended highlight recovery logic that can actually bring back lost highlights. The article also gets into setting up your defaults, batch processing and much more. A great read.
RE: Great Camera Raw Article in Photoshop User
Hi Tom, April and May. It's a bi-monthly. Paul Paul, Thanks. Is it the April or May issue? Tom C. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Great Camera Raw Article in Photoshop User Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 17:58:44 + This month's issue of Photoshop User magazine has a fabulous article about the PSCS Camera Raw converter. It's written by PSCS expert and Real World Camera Raw author Bruce Fraser along with Jeff Schewe, a top Chicago shooter. Some of the info goes well beyond Bruce's book. It uses examples actually shot by Schewe and explains some of the conversion decisions. It explains how the conversion sliders relate to a 5-point curve and why doing this during conversion is superior to working the curves in PhotoShop. I also learned that the Camera Raw converter has an extended highlight recovery logic that can actually bring back lost highlights. The article also gets into setting up your defaults, batch processing and much more. A great read.
RE: Great Camera Raw Article in Photoshop User
Is it available online anywhere for us third world photoshopers? :-) Regards Albano --- Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I saw the article yesterday and just briefly looked at it. Now you've made me want to take time to give it a good read. Jeff, BTW, is a consultant for Adobe's Photoshop and, iirc, has done some development work for them. Shel [Original Message] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This month's issue of Photoshop User magazine has a fabulous article about the PSCS Camera Raw converter. It's written by PSCS expert and Real World Camera Raw author Bruce Fraser along with Jeff Schewe, a top Chicago shooter. Albano Garcia Photography Graphic Design http://www.albanogarcia.com.ar http://www.flaneur.com.ar __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ Albano Garcia Photography Graphic Design http://www.albanogarcia.com.ar http://www.flaneur.com.ar __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/
RE: Great Camera Raw Article in Photoshop User
http://www.photoshopuser.com/ But don't expect to see the article. You have to be a member of the NAPP in order to gain full access to the site. Shel [Original Message] From: Albano Garcia Is it available online anywhere for us third world photoshopers? :-) Regards Albano --- Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I saw the article yesterday and just briefly looked at it. Now you've made me want to take time to give it a good read. Jeff, BTW, is a consultant for Adobe's Photoshop and, iirc, has done some development work for them. Shel [Original Message] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This month's issue of Photoshop User magazine has a fabulous article about the PSCS Camera Raw converter. It's written by PSCS expert and Real World Camera Raw author Bruce Fraser along with Jeff Schewe, a top Chicago shooter. Albano Garcia Photography Graphic Design http://www.albanogarcia.com.ar http://www.flaneur.com.ar __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ Albano Garcia Photography Graphic Design http://www.albanogarcia.com.ar http://www.flaneur.com.ar __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/
RE: Great Camera Raw Article in Photoshop User
I know, I got there and saw it wasn't any material available for free. I was asking for a generous soul to make a scan or something :-) Regards Albano --- Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.photoshopuser.com/ But don't expect to see the article. You have to be a member of the NAPP in order to gain full access to the site. Shel [Original Message] From: Albano Garcia Is it available online anywhere for us third world photoshopers? :-) Regards Albano --- Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I saw the article yesterday and just briefly looked at it. Now you've made me want to take time to give it a good read. Jeff, BTW, is a consultant for Adobe's Photoshop and, iirc, has done some development work for them. Shel [Original Message] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This month's issue of Photoshop User magazine has a fabulous article about the PSCS Camera Raw converter. It's written by PSCS expert and Real World Camera Raw author Bruce Fraser along with Jeff Schewe, a top Chicago shooter. Albano Garcia Photography Graphic Design http://www.albanogarcia.com.ar http://www.flaneur.com.ar __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ Albano Garcia Photography Graphic Design http://www.albanogarcia.com.ar http://www.flaneur.com.ar __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ Albano Garcia Photography Graphic Design http://www.albanogarcia.com.ar http://www.flaneur.com.ar __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ Albano Garcia Photography Graphic Design http://www.albanogarcia.com.ar http://www.flaneur.com.ar __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
RE: Great Camera Raw Article in Photoshop User
If I buy the magazine and get the article, I'll make a copy for you. I most often read such things at a nearby comfy book store that has a coffee bar and big, over stuffed chairs. Shel [Original Message] From: Albano Garcia I know, I got there and saw it wasn't any material available for free. I was asking for a generous soul to make a scan or something :-) Regards Albano --- Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.photoshopuser.com/ But don't expect to see the article. You have to be a member of the NAPP in order to gain full access to the site. Shel [Original Message] From: Albano Garcia Is it available online anywhere for us third world photoshopers? :-) Regards Albano --- Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I saw the article yesterday and just briefly looked at it. Now you've made me want to take time to give it a good read. Jeff, BTW, is a consultant for Adobe's Photoshop and, iirc, has done some development work for them. Shel [Original Message] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This month's issue of Photoshop User magazine has a fabulous article about the PSCS Camera Raw converter. It's written by PSCS expert and Real World Camera Raw author Bruce Fraser along with Jeff Schewe, a top Chicago shooter. Albano Garcia Photography Graphic Design http://www.albanogarcia.com.ar http://www.flaneur.com.ar __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ Albano Garcia Photography Graphic Design http://www.albanogarcia.com.ar http://www.flaneur.com.ar __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ Albano Garcia Photography Graphic Design http://www.albanogarcia.com.ar http://www.flaneur.com.ar __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ Albano Garcia Photography Graphic Design http://www.albanogarcia.com.ar http://www.flaneur.com.ar __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
RE: Great Camera Raw Article in Photoshop User
It would be great! regards Albano --- Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I buy the magazine and get the article, I'll make a copy for you. I most often read such things at a nearby comfy book store that has a coffee bar and big, over stuffed chairs. Shel [Original Message] From: Albano Garcia I know, I got there and saw it wasn't any material available for free. I was asking for a generous soul to make a scan or something :-) Regards Albano --- Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.photoshopuser.com/ But don't expect to see the article. You have to be a member of the NAPP in order to gain full access to the site. Shel [Original Message] From: Albano Garcia Is it available online anywhere for us third world photoshopers? :-) Regards Albano --- Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I saw the article yesterday and just briefly looked at it. Now you've made me want to take time to give it a good read. Jeff, BTW, is a consultant for Adobe's Photoshop and, iirc, has done some development work for them. Shel [Original Message] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This month's issue of Photoshop User magazine has a fabulous article about the PSCS Camera Raw converter. It's written by PSCS expert and Real World Camera Raw author Bruce Fraser along with Jeff Schewe, a top Chicago shooter. Albano Garcia Photography Graphic Design http://www.albanogarcia.com.ar http://www.flaneur.com.ar __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ Albano Garcia Photography Graphic Design http://www.albanogarcia.com.ar http://www.flaneur.com.ar __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ Albano Garcia Photography Graphic Design http://www.albanogarcia.com.ar http://www.flaneur.com.ar __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ Albano Garcia Photography Graphic Design http://www.albanogarcia.com.ar http://www.flaneur.com.ar __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Albano Garcia Photography Graphic Design http://www.albanogarcia.com.ar http://www.flaneur.com.ar __ Yahoo! Mail Mobile Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/learn/mail Albano Garcia Photography Graphic Design http://www.albanogarcia.com.ar http://www.flaneur.com.ar __ Yahoo! Mail Mobile Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/learn/mail
