Re: New laptop
I kicked Norton to the curb years ago. McAfee soon followed it. For the past few years, I've used Emsisoft's Anti-malware; it has a smaller footprint and doesn't slow the system. I haven't had any trouble with the systems in this house. Some people, who shall remain nameless, would disable McAfee & Norton because they slowed their surfing experience. Nothing like having to clean a system that shouldn't have needed it. I'm so pleased with it that I use the mobile version for my Android. Good luck! Yonnie On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 4:40 PM, John wrote: > On 2/28/2018 00:37, mike wilson wrote: >>> >>> On 28 February 2018 at 04:34 John wrote: >>> >>> >>> On 2/27/2018 14:28, John Francis wrote: On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 02:04:12PM -0500, John wrote: > > My new laptop just arrived. I finally broke down and ordered a > refurbished HP Elitebook from Newegg. Intel i5, 16GB RAM, 512GB > SSD, DVD??RW, Windoze7 PRO 64-bit. > > Replaces my 11 year old Toshiba. I expect I'll finally be able > to run Photoshop CS6 Extended on a laptop. This might be a good time to reconsider your position on Windows 10. You've got two years left before Microsoft drop all support for W7. That means there won't even be any security updates after Jan 2020. >>> >>> F*** 'em. I'll figure out how to install Linux ... or maybe turn >>> it into a Hackintosh. >> >> >> UBUNTU is an easy install. Download the file and write it to a DVD - >> maybe a memory stick by now, shove it in the machine and follow >> instructions. Automatically installs Firefox and Thunderbird. >> (Windows) problems fixed, permanently. >> > > For now I'm sticking with Windoze7, at least until Micro$oft murders it. > > But, yes, most likely Ubuntu when my paranoia level at the lack of > security updates after Jan 2020. > > I am pretty much removing ALL of the pre-installed "software" to make > room for the programs *I* use. The trial versions of Word Perfect and > Quatro Pro are going bye-bye; so is "BullGuard". > > Open Office, here I come. > > Antivirus software? How does Windoze Defender compare to aftermarket > products? > > None of the reviews (PC Magazine, PC World, TopTen) even list it. But > I'm not sure how much faith I can put in them, because some of them > rate Norton highest (and the others recommend it highly). > > My previous experience with Norton is why I'm using AVG currently. > Recently AVG has begun exhibiting the same behavior that pissed me off > against Norton. > > Definitely not going with Kaspersky. Maybe Bitdefender or Avast? > > Or is Windoze Defender good enough? > > > > > -- > Science - Questions we may never find answers for. > Religion - Answers we must never question. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New laptop
On 2/28/2018 19:25, Brian Walters wrote: WordPerfect? Quottro Pro? Are they still around? Well, not any more. I deleted them & downloaded Apache OpenOffice. But I think they're owned by Corel, which is also still around. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ On 01 March 2018 at 09:40 John wrote: On 2/28/2018 00:37, mike wilson wrote: On 28 February 2018 at 04:34 John wrote: On 2/27/2018 14:28, John Francis wrote: On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 02:04:12PM -0500, John wrote: My new laptop just arrived. I finally broke down and ordered a refurbished HP Elitebook from Newegg. Intel i5, 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD, DVD??RW, Windoze7 PRO 64-bit. Replaces my 11 year old Toshiba. I expect I'll finally be able to run Photoshop CS6 Extended on a laptop. This might be a good time to reconsider your position on Windows 10. You've got two years left before Microsoft drop all support for W7. That means there won't even be any security updates after Jan 2020. F*** 'em. I'll figure out how to install Linux ... or maybe turn it into a Hackintosh. UBUNTU is an easy install. Download the file and write it to a DVD - maybe a memory stick by now, shove it in the machine and follow instructions. Automatically installs Firefox and Thunderbird. (Windows) problems fixed, permanently. For now I'm sticking with Windoze7, at least until Micro$oft murders it. But, yes, most likely Ubuntu when my paranoia level at the lack of security updates after Jan 2020. I am pretty much removing ALL of the pre-installed "software" to make room for the programs *I* use. The trial versions of Word Perfect and Quatro Pro are going bye-bye; so is "BullGuard". Open Office, here I come. Antivirus software? How does Windoze Defender compare to aftermarket products? None of the reviews (PC Magazine, PC World, TopTen) even list it. But I'm not sure how much faith I can put in them, because some of them rate Norton highest (and the others recommend it highly). My previous experience with Norton is why I'm using AVG currently. Recently AVG has begun exhibiting the same behavior that pissed me off against Norton. Definitely not going with Kaspersky. Maybe Bitdefender or Avast? Or is Windoze Defender good enough? -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New laptop
> On 28 February 2018 at 22:40 John wrote: > > > On 2/28/2018 00:37, mike wilson wrote: > >> On 28 February 2018 at 04:34 John wrote: > >> > >> > >> On 2/27/2018 14:28, John Francis wrote: > >>> On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 02:04:12PM -0500, John wrote: > My new laptop just arrived. I finally broke down and ordered a > refurbished HP Elitebook from Newegg. Intel i5, 16GB RAM, 512GB > SSD, DVD??RW, Windoze7 PRO 64-bit. > > Replaces my 11 year old Toshiba. I expect I'll finally be able > to run Photoshop CS6 Extended on a laptop. > >>> > >>> This might be a good time to reconsider your position on Windows > >>> 10. You've got two years left before Microsoft drop all support > >>> for W7. That means there won't even be any security updates after > >>> Jan 2020. > >>> > >>> > >> > >> F*** 'em. I'll figure out how to install Linux ... or maybe turn > >> it into a Hackintosh. > > > > UBUNTU is an easy install. Download the file and write it to a DVD - > > maybe a memory stick by now, shove it in the machine and follow > > instructions. Automatically installs Firefox and Thunderbird. > > (Windows) problems fixed, permanently. > > > > For now I'm sticking with Windoze7, at least until Micro$oft murders it. > > But, yes, most likely Ubuntu when my paranoia level at the lack of > security updates after Jan 2020. > > I am pretty much removing ALL of the pre-installed "software" to make > room for the programs *I* use. The trial versions of Word Perfect and > Quatro Pro are going bye-bye; so is "BullGuard". > > Open Office, here I come. Forgot to mention that UBUNTU installs LibreOffice automatically. You can set the default file save to MS Office standards and names. I've had a few, minor hiccups when swapping files between suites but they are mainly formatting issues and easily dealt with. The only exception is the equivalent of Publisher but that doesn't even talk to different versions of itself. > > Antivirus software? How does Windoze Defender compare to aftermarket > products? > > None of the reviews (PC Magazine, PC World, TopTen) even list it. But > I'm not sure how much faith I can put in them, because some of them > rate Norton highest (and the others recommend it highly). > > My previous experience with Norton is why I'm using AVG currently. > Recently AVG has begun exhibiting the same behavior that pissed me off > against Norton. > > Definitely not going with Kaspersky. Maybe Bitdefender or Avast? > > Or is Windoze Defender good enough? > > > > > -- > Science - Questions we may never find answers for. > Religion - Answers we must never question. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: New laptop
John, Windows Defender has been rated very good by an Australian PC magazine (one with a good reputation!), and I use it and Trend Micro's AV software as well. TM allows me to protect up to 5 PC's for one licence, which covers my needs. Norton I found a resource hog, and as you say, AVG is heading the same way. I can't say I would trust Kapersky now, given their location! John in Brisbane -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of John Sent: Thursday, 1 March 2018 8:40 AM To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: New laptop On 2/28/2018 00:37, mike wilson wrote: >> On 28 February 2018 at 04:34 John wrote: >> >> >> On 2/27/2018 14:28, John Francis wrote: >>> On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 02:04:12PM -0500, John wrote: >>>> My new laptop just arrived. I finally broke down and ordered a >>>> refurbished HP Elitebook from Newegg. Intel i5, 16GB RAM, 512GB >>>> SSD, DVD??RW, Windoze7 PRO 64-bit. >>>> >>>> Replaces my 11 year old Toshiba. I expect I'll finally be able to >>>> run Photoshop CS6 Extended on a laptop. >>> >>> This might be a good time to reconsider your position on Windows 10. >>> You've got two years left before Microsoft drop all support for W7. >>> That means there won't even be any security updates after Jan 2020. >>> >>> >> >> F*** 'em. I'll figure out how to install Linux ... or maybe turn it >> into a Hackintosh. > > UBUNTU is an easy install. Download the file and write it to a DVD - > maybe a memory stick by now, shove it in the machine and follow > instructions. Automatically installs Firefox and Thunderbird. > (Windows) problems fixed, permanently. > For now I'm sticking with Windoze7, at least until Micro$oft murders it. But, yes, most likely Ubuntu when my paranoia level at the lack of security updates after Jan 2020. I am pretty much removing ALL of the pre-installed "software" to make room for the programs *I* use. The trial versions of Word Perfect and Quatro Pro are going bye-bye; so is "BullGuard". Open Office, here I come. Antivirus software? How does Windoze Defender compare to aftermarket products? None of the reviews (PC Magazine, PC World, TopTen) even list it. But I'm not sure how much faith I can put in them, because some of them rate Norton highest (and the others recommend it highly). My previous experience with Norton is why I'm using AVG currently. Recently AVG has begun exhibiting the same behavior that pissed me off against Norton. Definitely not going with Kaspersky. Maybe Bitdefender or Avast? Or is Windoze Defender good enough? -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New laptop
WordPerfect? Quottro Pro? Are they still around? Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ > On 01 March 2018 at 09:40 John wrote: > > > On 2/28/2018 00:37, mike wilson wrote: > >> On 28 February 2018 at 04:34 John wrote: > >> > >> > >> On 2/27/2018 14:28, John Francis wrote: > >>> On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 02:04:12PM -0500, John wrote: > My new laptop just arrived. I finally broke down and ordered a > refurbished HP Elitebook from Newegg. Intel i5, 16GB RAM, 512GB > SSD, DVD??RW, Windoze7 PRO 64-bit. > > Replaces my 11 year old Toshiba. I expect I'll finally be able > to run Photoshop CS6 Extended on a laptop. > >>> > >>> This might be a good time to reconsider your position on Windows > >>> 10. You've got two years left before Microsoft drop all support > >>> for W7. That means there won't even be any security updates after > >>> Jan 2020. > >>> > >>> > >> > >> F*** 'em. I'll figure out how to install Linux ... or maybe turn > >> it into a Hackintosh. > > > > UBUNTU is an easy install. Download the file and write it to a DVD - > > maybe a memory stick by now, shove it in the machine and follow > > instructions. Automatically installs Firefox and Thunderbird. > > (Windows) problems fixed, permanently. > > > > For now I'm sticking with Windoze7, at least until Micro$oft murders it. > > But, yes, most likely Ubuntu when my paranoia level at the lack of > security updates after Jan 2020. > > I am pretty much removing ALL of the pre-installed "software" to make > room for the programs *I* use. The trial versions of Word Perfect and > Quatro Pro are going bye-bye; so is "BullGuard". > > Open Office, here I come. > > Antivirus software? How does Windoze Defender compare to aftermarket > products? > > None of the reviews (PC Magazine, PC World, TopTen) even list it. But > I'm not sure how much faith I can put in them, because some of them > rate Norton highest (and the others recommend it highly). > > My previous experience with Norton is why I'm using AVG currently. > Recently AVG has begun exhibiting the same behavior that pissed me off > against Norton. > > Definitely not going with Kaspersky. Maybe Bitdefender or Avast? > > Or is Windoze Defender good enough? > > > > > -- > Science - Questions we may never find answers for. > Religion - Answers we must never question. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New laptop
On 28 Feb 2018, at 22:41, John mailto:sesso...@earthlink.net>> wrote: On 2/28/2018 00:37, mike wilson wrote: On 28 February 2018 at 04:34 John mailto:sesso...@earthlink.net>> wrote: On 2/27/2018 14:28, John Francis wrote: On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 02:04:12PM -0500, John wrote: For now I'm sticking with Windoze7, at least until Micro$oft murders it. You could always sue Microsoft: https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/02/15/man_sues_microsoft_windows_7/ Antivirus software? How does Windoze Defender compare to aftermarket products? Or is Windoze Defender good enough? I've been using it for a few years; it's fine. Before that I used Avast, before that I used something else. The advantage of Windows Defender is that it is unnoticeable, whereas the others eventually turned into memory hogs, or just pests in one way or another. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New laptop
On 2/28/2018 00:37, mike wilson wrote: On 28 February 2018 at 04:34 John wrote: On 2/27/2018 14:28, John Francis wrote: On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 02:04:12PM -0500, John wrote: My new laptop just arrived. I finally broke down and ordered a refurbished HP Elitebook from Newegg. Intel i5, 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD, DVD??RW, Windoze7 PRO 64-bit. Replaces my 11 year old Toshiba. I expect I'll finally be able to run Photoshop CS6 Extended on a laptop. This might be a good time to reconsider your position on Windows 10. You've got two years left before Microsoft drop all support for W7. That means there won't even be any security updates after Jan 2020. F*** 'em. I'll figure out how to install Linux ... or maybe turn it into a Hackintosh. UBUNTU is an easy install. Download the file and write it to a DVD - maybe a memory stick by now, shove it in the machine and follow instructions. Automatically installs Firefox and Thunderbird. (Windows) problems fixed, permanently. For now I'm sticking with Windoze7, at least until Micro$oft murders it. But, yes, most likely Ubuntu when my paranoia level at the lack of security updates after Jan 2020. I am pretty much removing ALL of the pre-installed "software" to make room for the programs *I* use. The trial versions of Word Perfect and Quatro Pro are going bye-bye; so is "BullGuard". Open Office, here I come. Antivirus software? How does Windoze Defender compare to aftermarket products? None of the reviews (PC Magazine, PC World, TopTen) even list it. But I'm not sure how much faith I can put in them, because some of them rate Norton highest (and the others recommend it highly). My previous experience with Norton is why I'm using AVG currently. Recently AVG has begun exhibiting the same behavior that pissed me off against Norton. Definitely not going with Kaspersky. Maybe Bitdefender or Avast? Or is Windoze Defender good enough? -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New laptop
Windows XP, POS, (no not Piece of Sheit, just stop, I meant, stop), is still getting full support, and all you have to do with an old XP installation to get these updates is change or add, if it doesn't exist, a flag to the registry. Hell I'd still be using XP except that a good AV program and third party fire wall were no longer available, and oh yes, I am using one photo editing application that I just couldn't hack into running under XP, but I don't really need it, there were after all alternatives, but it was the security programs that were most important. I keep my primary development system on a laptop, so I don't really need the most up to date OS on my Photo Editing/General purpose desktop, in fact a lot of the more useful applications I'm using wouldn't run, and have no current equivalents for Win 10. With XP I just needed to be aware to not allow automatic downloads and not click on unsolicited links from Nairobi based Princes and Princess. Which is pretty much what you should do even if you're running the latest and greatest OS anyway. On 2/28/2018 12:58 PM, John wrote: That's why I'm considering going the Hackintosh route; let OS X be the emulator. OTOH, Windows7 may not be quite that dead. There are a lot of Government systems out there running Windows7; even some still running XP. That's a BIG chunk of the market to just cut yourself off from. And maybe before I have to make a change someone will write a better image editing software program for Linux. As Scarlet O'hara says, "Fiddle dee dee, I'll worry about that tomorrow." On 2/28/2018 11:09, P. J. Alling wrote: Except that now you're going to be running any PC software under and emulator, which might or might not work perfectly... I'm pretty sure that Adobe CC products will be nearly, or completely impossible to install that way. You might be able to get the stand alone versions to work, but that means no more updates for you. A while back I looked at the GIMP for windows and was appalled at the UI. OK so it was probably just my Adobe use biasing me. But life is too short to learn to use a UI that seems to be different only for differences sake, especially since it at the time it was so far behind Adobe that my years old version of Photoshop was just as capable. On 2/28/2018 12:37 AM, mike wilson wrote: On 28 February 2018 at 04:34 John wrote: On 2/27/2018 14:28, John Francis wrote: On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 02:04:12PM -0500, John wrote: My new laptop just arrived. I finally broke down and ordered a refurbished HP Elitebook from Newegg. Intel i5, 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD, DVD??RW, Windoze7 PRO 64-bit. Replaces my 11 year old Toshiba. I expect I'll finally be able to run Photoshop CS6 Extended on a laptop. This might be a good time to reconsider your position on Windows 10. You've got two years left before Microsoft drop all support for W7. That means there won't even be any security updates after Jan 2020. F*** 'em. I'll figure out how to install Linux ... or maybe turn it into a Hackintosh. UBUNTU is an easy install. Download the file and write it to a DVD - maybe a memory stick by now, shove it in the machine and follow instructions. Automatically installs Firefox and Thunderbird. (Windows) problems fixed, permanently. -- America wasn't founded so that we could all be better. America was founded so we could all be anything we damn well please. - P.J. O'Rourke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New laptop
> On 28 February 2018 at 16:09 "P. J. Alling" > wrote: > > > Except that now you're going to be running any PC software under and > emulator, which might or might not work perfectly... > > I'm pretty sure that Adobe CC products will be nearly, or completely > impossible to install that way. You might be able to get the stand > alone versions to work, but that means no more updates for you. "I'm pretty sure that Adobe CC products will be nearly, or completely impossible to install" - what better incentive could a body have to go windowless? > > A while back I looked at the GIMP for windows and was appalled at the > UI. OK so it was probably just my Adobe use biasing me. But life is > too short to learn to use a UI that seems to be different only for > differences sake, especially since it at the time it was so far behind > Adobe that my years old version of Photoshop was just as capable. > > > On 2/28/2018 12:37 AM, mike wilson wrote: > >> On 28 February 2018 at 04:34 John wrote: > >> > >> > >> On 2/27/2018 14:28, John Francis wrote: > >>> On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 02:04:12PM -0500, John wrote: > My new laptop just arrived. I finally broke down and ordered a > refurbished HP Elitebook from Newegg. Intel i5, 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD, > DVD??RW, Windoze7 PRO 64-bit. > > Replaces my 11 year old Toshiba. I expect I'll finally be able to > run Photoshop CS6 Extended on a laptop. > >>> This might be a good time to reconsider your position on Windows 10. > >>> You've got two years left before Microsoft drop all support for W7. > >>> That means there won't even be any security updates after Jan 2020. > >>> > >>> > >> F*** 'em. I'll figure out how to install Linux ... or maybe turn it > >> into a Hackintosh. > > UBUNTU is an easy install. Download the file and write it to a DVD - maybe > > a memory stick by now, shove it in the machine and follow instructions. > > Automatically installs Firefox and Thunderbird. (Windows) problems fixed, > > permanently. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New laptop
That's why I'm considering going the Hackintosh route; let OS X be the emulator. OTOH, Windows7 may not be quite that dead. There are a lot of Government systems out there running Windows7; even some still running XP. That's a BIG chunk of the market to just cut yourself off from. And maybe before I have to make a change someone will write a better image editing software program for Linux. As Scarlet O'hara says, "Fiddle dee dee, I'll worry about that tomorrow." On 2/28/2018 11:09, P. J. Alling wrote: Except that now you're going to be running any PC software under and emulator, which might or might not work perfectly... I'm pretty sure that Adobe CC products will be nearly, or completely impossible to install that way. You might be able to get the stand alone versions to work, but that means no more updates for you. A while back I looked at the GIMP for windows and was appalled at the UI. OK so it was probably just my Adobe use biasing me. But life is too short to learn to use a UI that seems to be different only for differences sake, especially since it at the time it was so far behind Adobe that my years old version of Photoshop was just as capable. On 2/28/2018 12:37 AM, mike wilson wrote: On 28 February 2018 at 04:34 John wrote: On 2/27/2018 14:28, John Francis wrote: On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 02:04:12PM -0500, John wrote: My new laptop just arrived. I finally broke down and ordered a refurbished HP Elitebook from Newegg. Intel i5, 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD, DVD??RW, Windoze7 PRO 64-bit. Replaces my 11 year old Toshiba. I expect I'll finally be able to run Photoshop CS6 Extended on a laptop. This might be a good time to reconsider your position on Windows 10. You've got two years left before Microsoft drop all support for W7. That means there won't even be any security updates after Jan 2020. F*** 'em. I'll figure out how to install Linux ... or maybe turn it into a Hackintosh. UBUNTU is an easy install. Download the file and write it to a DVD - maybe a memory stick by now, shove it in the machine and follow instructions. Automatically installs Firefox and Thunderbird. (Windows) problems fixed, permanently. -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New laptop
Except that now you're going to be running any PC software under and emulator, which might or might not work perfectly... I'm pretty sure that Adobe CC products will be nearly, or completely impossible to install that way. You might be able to get the stand alone versions to work, but that means no more updates for you. A while back I looked at the GIMP for windows and was appalled at the UI. OK so it was probably just my Adobe use biasing me. But life is too short to learn to use a UI that seems to be different only for differences sake, especially since it at the time it was so far behind Adobe that my years old version of Photoshop was just as capable. On 2/28/2018 12:37 AM, mike wilson wrote: On 28 February 2018 at 04:34 John wrote: On 2/27/2018 14:28, John Francis wrote: On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 02:04:12PM -0500, John wrote: My new laptop just arrived. I finally broke down and ordered a refurbished HP Elitebook from Newegg. Intel i5, 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD, DVD??RW, Windoze7 PRO 64-bit. Replaces my 11 year old Toshiba. I expect I'll finally be able to run Photoshop CS6 Extended on a laptop. This might be a good time to reconsider your position on Windows 10. You've got two years left before Microsoft drop all support for W7. That means there won't even be any security updates after Jan 2020. F*** 'em. I'll figure out how to install Linux ... or maybe turn it into a Hackintosh. UBUNTU is an easy install. Download the file and write it to a DVD - maybe a memory stick by now, shove it in the machine and follow instructions. Automatically installs Firefox and Thunderbird. (Windows) problems fixed, permanently. -- America wasn't founded so that we could all be better. America was founded so we could all be anything we damn well please. - P.J. O'Rourke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New laptop
> On 28 February 2018 at 04:34 John wrote: > > > On 2/27/2018 14:28, John Francis wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 02:04:12PM -0500, John wrote: > >> My new laptop just arrived. I finally broke down and ordered a > >> refurbished HP Elitebook from Newegg. Intel i5, 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD, > >> DVD??RW, Windoze7 PRO 64-bit. > >> > >> Replaces my 11 year old Toshiba. I expect I'll finally be able to > >> run Photoshop CS6 Extended on a laptop. > > > > This might be a good time to reconsider your position on Windows 10. > > You've got two years left before Microsoft drop all support for W7. > > That means there won't even be any security updates after Jan 2020. > > > > > > F*** 'em. I'll figure out how to install Linux ... or maybe turn it > into a Hackintosh. UBUNTU is an easy install. Download the file and write it to a DVD - maybe a memory stick by now, shove it in the machine and follow instructions. Automatically installs Firefox and Thunderbird. (Windows) problems fixed, permanently. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New laptop
On 2/27/2018 14:28, John Francis wrote: On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 02:04:12PM -0500, John wrote: My new laptop just arrived. I finally broke down and ordered a refurbished HP Elitebook from Newegg. Intel i5, 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD, DVD??RW, Windoze7 PRO 64-bit. Replaces my 11 year old Toshiba. I expect I'll finally be able to run Photoshop CS6 Extended on a laptop. This might be a good time to reconsider your position on Windows 10. You've got two years left before Microsoft drop all support for W7. That means there won't even be any security updates after Jan 2020. F*** 'em. I'll figure out how to install Linux ... or maybe turn it into a Hackintosh. Photoshop will run on a Mac, why not on a Hack? -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New laptop
On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 02:04:12PM -0500, John wrote: > My new laptop just arrived. I finally broke down and ordered a > refurbished HP Elitebook from Newegg. Intel i5, 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD, > DVD??RW, Windoze7 PRO 64-bit. > > Replaces my 11 year old Toshiba. I expect I'll finally be able to > run Photoshop CS6 Extended on a laptop. This might be a good time to reconsider your position on Windows 10. You've got two years left before Microsoft drop all support for W7. That means there won't even be any security updates after Jan 2020. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New laptop
John, Didn't you buy a new laptop that was good with photos? What was that? My Sony is starting to fall apart, and it's been hot, hot, hot since I put the Spyder on the color. Regards, Bob S. On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 3:02 PM, John Francis wrote: > > You "Mark!"" that, and yet leave the final line un-Marked? > > > On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 11:59:03PM -0500, Ken Waller wrote: It looked nice on my cell phone. >> >> Mark ! >> >> Kenneth Waller >> http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f >> >> - Original Message - From: "Graydon" >> Subject: Re: amaryllis >> >> >>> On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 08:36:26PM +, drd1...@gmail.com scripsit: It looked nice on my cell phone. ;-). Very sharp with impressive Dof for a macro shot. >>> >>> Thank you! >>> >>> I *like* the DA35. It makes me look like I might know what I'm doing. >>> >>> -- Graydon > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
