Re: OT Posterior vitreous detachment
On 2012-09-12 1:11, Joseph McAllister wrote: Why did it take so long to attain that, as an average? According to a class I took years ago, the answer is infant mortality. IIRC, the professor claimed that if, in 1776, you ignored the deaths of those less than either six or ten years old in the calculation, the average lifespan was over 60, rather than the under 50 or so that you get when you include the infant/child deaths. -- Doug Lefty Franklin NutDriver Racing http://NutDriver.org Facebook NutDriver Racing Sponsored by Murphy -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 9/12/2012 8:30 AM, Doug Franklin wrote: On 2012-09-12 1:11, Joseph McAllister wrote: Why did it take so long to attain that, as an average? According to a class I took years ago, the answer is infant mortality. IIRC, the professor claimed that if, in 1776, you ignored the deaths of those less than either six or ten years old in the calculation, the average lifespan was over 60, rather than the under 50 or so that you get when you include the infant/child deaths. The average age of death of a medieval blacksmith was 74, the only thing special about that is that he had survived childhood. It was only high childhood mortality that reduced average lifespan to 30 years. Most places didn't even record the births of children to anyone not of any special social stature until they had been christened. So even those statistics overstate average lifespan. -- Don't lose heart, they might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthly search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 9/12/2012 1:11 AM, Joseph McAllister wrote: On Sep 11, 2012, at 20:42 , John Sessoms wrote: On Sep 10, 2012, at 09:54 , Bruce Walker wrote: On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 11:11 AM, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote: On 09/09/2012 09:10, Bob W wrote: From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of mike wilson http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posterior_vitreous_detachment I've never heard of that before. Sounds like one more shitty thing to look forward to as my body crumbles under the weight of increasing years. Did she fix it? Unfixable. The jelly in the big part of your eye liquifies as you get older and pulls away from the retina. Trying to glue liquid to anything is a fool's game. Well who in hell thought *that* was a good eye design anyway? It is a result of our living almost twice our designed lifespan. Other than injury, no one would experience this if we all died at 45. Bible says three score and 10. Actually the design limit seems to be about 114. Why did it take so long to attain that, as an average? Only a portion of the population has achieved that number. As I have just reached said predicted number, I pay no attention to the bible's prediction anymore. It is obviously wrong. grin Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com -- Don't lose heart, they might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthly search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 09/09/2012 18:27, John Sessoms wrote: From: mike wilson http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posterior_vitreous_detachment Just a heads-up for those who have to pay for treatment or who may suffer a premium increase for consulting. Stepping out of the house on Thursday, I saw a splash of white across my left eye. Thinking it was bird poop, I wiped the eye but there was nothing there. Then I noticed the huge (60-70% of my vision) field of floaters that had appeared. Clearly a cause for concern. Off to the local eye infirmary (a leftover from the local industrial past) for a checkup, where the above was diagnosed. A very common occurence, apparently, and completely harmless in itself. Complications such as those mentioned in the wiki article are very rare - I was the third person that day to turn up with the problem and the opthamologist had seen no complications this year. She highlighted that it was only really necessary to come back if an occurence caused a dark patch in my vision that I could not see through or my vision as a whole rapidly deteriorated. She also said that complications generally occur at the time, not later, unlike the wiki article. So there you go. Did you update the wiki article with the corrections? Not really sure that a medical opinion would be correct. -- No fixed Adobe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 10/09/2012 19:04, Mark Roberts wrote: Matthew Hunt m...@pobox.com wrote: On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 12:54 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Well who in hell thought *that* was a good eye design anyway? The requirements indicated a design lifetime of 30 years. So Mike's out of warranty, then? I was going to respond with a joke about coming out of the back door of the factory but on second thoughts -- No fixed Adobe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I first noticed floaters when I was 12 or 13. Sometimes they drive me crazy. I know where to come now for medical advice. Regards, Bob S. On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 12:15 AM, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote: On 10/09/2012 19:04, Mark Roberts wrote: Matthew Hunt m...@pobox.com wrote: On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 12:54 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Well who in hell thought *that* was a good eye design anyway? The requirements indicated a design lifetime of 30 years. So Mike's out of warranty, then? I was going to respond with a joke about coming out of the back door of the factory but on second thoughts -- No fixed Adobe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Sep 10, 2012, at 09:54 , Bruce Walker wrote: On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 11:11 AM, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote: On 09/09/2012 09:10, Bob W wrote: From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of mike wilson http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posterior_vitreous_detachment I've never heard of that before. Sounds like one more shitty thing to look forward to as my body crumbles under the weight of increasing years. Did she fix it? Unfixable. The jelly in the big part of your eye liquifies as you get older and pulls away from the retina. Trying to glue liquid to anything is a fool's game. Well who in hell thought *that* was a good eye design anyway? It is a result of our living almost twice our designed lifespan. Other than injury, no one would experience this if we all died at 45. It's not that life is too short, it's that you're dead for so long.. — Anon Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Sep 10, 2012, at 11:08 , Bob Sullivan wrote: Not only is Mike out of warranty, but you can't return him to the manufacturer's! Yes, you can. Dust to dust . On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 12:04 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: Matthew Hunt m...@pobox.com wrote: On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 12:54 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Well who in hell thought *that* was a good eye design anyway? The requirements indicated a design lifetime of 30 years. So Mike's out of warranty, then? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 11/09/2012 15:27, Bob Sullivan wrote: I first noticed floaters when I was 12 or 13. This isn't just the occasional mote in the eye. This is a whole plank turned to sawdust and shoved in there. Sometimes they drive me crazy. I know where to come now for medical advice. Regards, Bob S. On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 12:15 AM, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote: On 10/09/2012 19:04, Mark Roberts wrote: Matthew Hunt m...@pobox.com wrote: On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 12:54 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Well who in hell thought *that* was a good eye design anyway? The requirements indicated a design lifetime of 30 years. So Mike's out of warranty, then? I was going to respond with a joke about coming out of the back door of the factory but on second thoughts -- No fixed Adobe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- No fixed Adobe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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From: Joseph McAllister On Sep 10, 2012, at 09:54 , Bruce Walker wrote: On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 11:11 AM, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote: On 09/09/2012 09:10, Bob W wrote: From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of mike wilson http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posterior_vitreous_detachment I've never heard of that before. Sounds like one more shitty thing to look forward to as my body crumbles under the weight of increasing years. Did she fix it? Unfixable. The jelly in the big part of your eye liquifies as you get older and pulls away from the retina. Trying to glue liquid to anything is a fool's game. Well who in hell thought *that* was a good eye design anyway? It is a result of our living almost twice our designed lifespan. Other than injury, no one would experience this if we all died at 45. Bible says three score and 10. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Sep 11, 2012, at 20:42 , John Sessoms wrote: On Sep 10, 2012, at 09:54 , Bruce Walker wrote: On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 11:11 AM, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote: On 09/09/2012 09:10, Bob W wrote: From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of mike wilson http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posterior_vitreous_detachment I've never heard of that before. Sounds like one more shitty thing to look forward to as my body crumbles under the weight of increasing years. Did she fix it? Unfixable. The jelly in the big part of your eye liquifies as you get older and pulls away from the retina. Trying to glue liquid to anything is a fool's game. Well who in hell thought *that* was a good eye design anyway? It is a result of our living almost twice our designed lifespan. Other than injury, no one would experience this if we all died at 45. Bible says three score and 10. Why did it take so long to attain that, as an average? Only a portion of the population has achieved that number. As I have just reached said predicted number, I pay no attention to the bible's prediction anymore. It is obviously wrong. grin Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 09/09/2012 09:10, Bob W wrote: From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of mike wilson http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posterior_vitreous_detachment I've never heard of that before. Sounds like one more shitty thing to look forward to as my body crumbles under the weight of increasing years. Did she fix it? B Unfixable. The jelly in the big part of your eye liquifies as you get older and pulls away from the retina. Trying to glue liquid to anything is a fool's game. On the plus side, I'm no longer worried about dust on my sensor. Until the floaters settle, anyway. Just a heads-up for those who have to pay for treatment or who may suffer a premium increase for consulting. Stepping out of the house on Thursday, I saw a splash of white across my left eye. Thinking it was bird poop, I wiped the eye but there was nothing there. Then I noticed the huge (60-70% of my vision) field of floaters that had appeared. Clearly a cause for concern. Off to the local eye infirmary (a leftover from the local industrial past) for a checkup, where the above was diagnosed. A very common occurence, apparently, and completely harmless in itself. Complications such as those mentioned in the wiki article are very rare - I was the third person that day to turn up with the problem and the opthamologist had seen no complications this year. She highlighted that it was only really necessary to come back if an occurence caused a dark patch in my vision that I could not see through or my vision as a whole rapidly deteriorated. She also said that complications generally occur at the time, not later, unlike the wiki article. -- No fixed Adobe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of mike wilson http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posterior_vitreous_detachment I've never heard of that before. Sounds like one more shitty thing to look forward to as my body crumbles under the weight of increasing years. Did she fix it? B Unfixable. The jelly in the big part of your eye liquifies as you get older and pulls away from the retina. Trying to glue liquid to anything is a fool's game. Guess I'll just have to keep drinking the blood of virgins and stay young forever. The only downside is sleeping in a coffin. On the plus side, I'm no longer worried about dust on my sensor. Until the floaters settle, anyway. Must be like seeing the world through a snowdome. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 11:11 AM, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote: On 09/09/2012 09:10, Bob W wrote: From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of mike wilson http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posterior_vitreous_detachment I've never heard of that before. Sounds like one more shitty thing to look forward to as my body crumbles under the weight of increasing years. Did she fix it? Unfixable. The jelly in the big part of your eye liquifies as you get older and pulls away from the retina. Trying to glue liquid to anything is a fool's game. Well who in hell thought *that* was a good eye design anyway? -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 12:54 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Well who in hell thought *that* was a good eye design anyway? The requirements indicated a design lifetime of 30 years. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Matthew Hunt m...@pobox.com wrote: On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 12:54 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Well who in hell thought *that* was a good eye design anyway? The requirements indicated a design lifetime of 30 years. So Mike's out of warranty, then? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 9/10/2012 12:58 PM, Matthew Hunt wrote: On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 12:54 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Well who in hell thought *that* was a good eye design anyway? The requirements indicated a design lifetime of 30 years. Hey you get a lifetime guaranteeing. -- Don't lose heart, they might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthly search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 9/10/2012 12:58 PM, Matthew Hunt wrote: On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 12:54 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Well who in hell thought *that* was a good eye design anyway? The requirements indicated a design lifetime of 30 years. Hey you get a lifetime guarantee. -- Don't lose heart, they might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthly search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Not only is Mike out of warranty, but you can't return him to the manufacturer's! On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 12:04 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: Matthew Hunt m...@pobox.com wrote: On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 12:54 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Well who in hell thought *that* was a good eye design anyway? The requirements indicated a design lifetime of 30 years. So Mike's out of warranty, then? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of mike wilson http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posterior_vitreous_detachment I've never heard of that before. Sounds like one more shitty thing to look forward to as my body crumbles under the weight of increasing years. Did she fix it? B Just a heads-up for those who have to pay for treatment or who may suffer a premium increase for consulting. Stepping out of the house on Thursday, I saw a splash of white across my left eye. Thinking it was bird poop, I wiped the eye but there was nothing there. Then I noticed the huge (60-70% of my vision) field of floaters that had appeared. Clearly a cause for concern. Off to the local eye infirmary (a leftover from the local industrial past) for a checkup, where the above was diagnosed. A very common occurence, apparently, and completely harmless in itself. Complications such as those mentioned in the wiki article are very rare - I was the third person that day to turn up with the problem and the opthamologist had seen no complications this year. She highlighted that it was only really necessary to come back if an occurence caused a dark patch in my vision that I could not see through or my vision as a whole rapidly deteriorated. She also said that complications generally occur at the time, not later, unlike the wiki article. So there you go. -- No fixed Adobe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Quoting Bob W p...@web-options.com: From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of mike wilson http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posterior_vitreous_detachment I've never heard of that before. Sounds like one more shitty thing to look forward to as my body crumbles under the weight of increasing years. Did she fix it? Yeah. Getting old sucks. I've had the odd eye floater over the past few years but never quite as dramatic as Mike's. They are a bit of a worry when they first appear but they're pretty common and they tend to come and go. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ Just a heads-up for those who have to pay for treatment or who may suffer a premium increase for consulting. Stepping out of the house on Thursday, I saw a splash of white across my left eye. Thinking it was bird poop, I wiped the eye but there was nothing there. Then I noticed the huge (60-70% of my vision) field of floaters that had appeared. Clearly a cause for concern. Off to the local eye infirmary (a leftover from the local industrial past) for a checkup, where the above was diagnosed. A very common occurence, apparently, and completely harmless in itself. Complications such as those mentioned in the wiki article are very rare - I was the third person that day to turn up with the problem and the opthamologist had seen no complications this year. She highlighted that it was only really necessary to come back if an occurence caused a dark patch in my vision that I could not see through or my vision as a whole rapidly deteriorated. She also said that complications generally occur at the time, not later, unlike the wiki article. So there you go. -- No fixed Adobe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Not nice. I have had floaters for many years and it is a real bother sometimes, constantly moving my eyes to get them out of the field of view. Dave On Sat, Sep 8, 2012 at 8:22 PM, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posterior_vitreous_detachment Just a heads-up for those who have to pay for treatment or who may suffer a premium increase for consulting. Stepping out of the house on Thursday, I saw a splash of white across my left eye. Thinking it was bird poop, I wiped the eye but there was nothing there. Then I noticed the huge (60-70% of my vision) field of floaters that had appeared. Clearly a cause for concern. Off to the local eye infirmary (a leftover from the local industrial past) for a checkup, where the above was diagnosed. A very common occurence, apparently, and completely harmless in itself. Complications such as those mentioned in the wiki article are very rare - I was the third person that day to turn up with the problem and the opthamologist had seen no complications this year. She highlighted that it was only really necessary to come back if an occurence caused a dark patch in my vision that I could not see through or my vision as a whole rapidly deteriorated. She also said that complications generally occur at the time, not later, unlike the wiki article. So there you go. -- No fixed Adobe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I too have been afflicted with these pesky gnats of vision, for 12 years now. The combo name for what happened is called Flashes and Floaters. Usually, mine are not noticeable, though situated directly on center, one in each eye. I can see them best with either my eyes closed, or looking at a uniform light surface. Because they are in your vitreous humor (the jelly that squirts out when you step on an errant eyeball) they can be moved out of the way for a few with eye or head movement, only to return to approximately where they began, with a delay, of course. The pesky part is the frequent belief that something just flew by you left or right when you move your eyes suddenly, capturing your attention for a brief instant, even turning your head to see what it was in some instances. If you want to play with them, you can move your eyes around and pretend they are flies having a battle in front of you. Old age - there is only one way to avoid it. Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com “ The early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.” — Kevan Olesen On Sep 9, 2012, at 00:10 , Bob W wrote: From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of mike wilson http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posterior_vitreous_detachment I've never heard of that before. Sounds like one more shitty thing to look forward to as my body crumbles under the weight of increasing years. Did she fix it? B Just a heads-up for those who have to pay for treatment or who may suffer a premium increase for consulting. Stepping out of the house on Thursday, I saw a splash of white across my left eye. Thinking it was bird poop, I wiped the eye but there was nothing there. Then I noticed the huge (60-70% of my vision) field of floaters that had appeared. Clearly a cause for concern. Off to the local eye infirmary (a leftover from the local industrial past) for a checkup, where the above was diagnosed. A very common occurrence, apparently, and completely harmless in itself. Complications such as those mentioned in the wiki article are very rare - I was the third person that day to turn up with the problem and the opthamologist had seen no complications this year. She highlighted that it was only really necessary to come back if an occurrence caused a dark patch in my vision that I could not see through or my vision as a whole rapidly deteriorated. She also said that complications generally occur at the time, not later, unlike the wiki article. So there you go. -- No fixed Adobe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com “ The early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.” — Kevan Olesen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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From: mike wilson http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posterior_vitreous_detachment Just a heads-up for those who have to pay for treatment or who may suffer a premium increase for consulting. Stepping out of the house on Thursday, I saw a splash of white across my left eye. Thinking it was bird poop, I wiped the eye but there was nothing there. Then I noticed the huge (60-70% of my vision) field of floaters that had appeared. Clearly a cause for concern. Off to the local eye infirmary (a leftover from the local industrial past) for a checkup, where the above was diagnosed. A very common occurence, apparently, and completely harmless in itself. Complications such as those mentioned in the wiki article are very rare - I was the third person that day to turn up with the problem and the opthamologist had seen no complications this year. She highlighted that it was only really necessary to come back if an occurence caused a dark patch in my vision that I could not see through or my vision as a whole rapidly deteriorated. She also said that complications generally occur at the time, not later, unlike the wiki article. So there you go. Did you update the wiki article with the corrections? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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From: Brian Walters Quoting Bob W p...@web-options.com: From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of mike wilson http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posterior_vitreous_detachment I've never heard of that before. Sounds like one more shitty thing to look forward to as my body crumbles under the weight of increasing years. Did she fix it? Yeah. Getting old sucks. Not as much as *not* getting old. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Joseph McAllister Old age - there is only one way to avoid it. is it by drinking the freshly drawn blood of virgins as the wolves howl in the Carpathian moonlight? Count Bobula -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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From: Bob W From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Joseph McAllister Old age - there is only one way to avoid it. is it by drinking the freshly drawn blood of virgins as the wolves howl in the Carpathian moonlight? Count Bobula Right. Where you gonna' find enough virgins in this day and age? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 1:45 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: From: Bob W From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Joseph McAllister Old age - there is only one way to avoid it. is it by drinking the freshly drawn blood of virgins as the wolves howl in the Carpathian moonlight? Count Bobula Right. Where you gonna' find enough virgins in this day and age? I don't both with all that old-school Goth nonsense. Head over to the drug mart for some Chewable Multi-bites. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Bummer... May be some (eyes related) rest can speed up the recovery process... Oddly enough this wiki article has very limited set of languages... On 9/9/2012 3:22 AM, mike wilson wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posterior_vitreous_detachment Just a heads-up for those who have to pay for treatment or who may suffer a premium increase for consulting. Stepping out of the house on Thursday, I saw a splash of white across my left eye. Thinking it was bird poop, I wiped the eye but there was nothing there. Then I noticed the huge (60-70% of my vision) field of floaters that had appeared. Clearly a cause for concern. Off to the local eye infirmary (a leftover from the local industrial past) for a checkup, where the above was diagnosed. A very common occurence, apparently, and completely harmless in itself. Complications such as those mentioned in the wiki article are very rare - I was the third person that day to turn up with the problem and the opthamologist had seen no complications this year. She highlighted that it was only really necessary to come back if an occurence caused a dark patch in my vision that I could not see through or my vision as a whole rapidly deteriorated. She also said that complications generally occur at the time, not later, unlike the wiki article. So there you go. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Sep 9, 2012, at 09:49 , Bob W wrote: From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Joseph McAllister Old age - there is only one way to avoid it. is it by drinking the freshly drawn blood of virgins as the wolves howl in the Carpathian moonlight? Count Bobula Negatory soldier - there's no escaping the long walk towards that train coming out of the tunnel at you. One just can't run fast enough; too distracted to think of turning away from the tracks - SPLAT! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
