RE: PESO - Spider Rock in black white
The colour version works better for me. John Coyle Brisbane, Australia -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Brian Walters Sent: Monday, 14 October 2013 7:34 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: PESO - Spider Rock in black white G'day all I posted a colour version of this a couple of months ago. I wasn't really happy with the colours in the harsh middle-of-the-day light, so I thought I'd try it in B W. What do you think? http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP1754-K5-1a-bw-peso.html Here's the colour version for comparison: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP1754-K5-1peso.html Comments and suggestions most welcome. -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Spider Rock in black white
Hi Brian: I actually like the color version better. I think the spider rock get lost in the bw version. Love the angle here. Cheers, Christine On Oct 13, 2013, at 4:34 PM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote: G'day all I posted a colour version of this a couple of months ago. I wasn't really happy with the colours in the harsh middle-of-the-day light, so I thought I'd try it in B W. What do you think? http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP1754-K5-1a-bw-peso.html Here's the colour version for comparison: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP1754-K5-1peso.html Comments and suggestions most welcome. -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Spider Rock in black white
nah - you were screwed by the time of day you were there... but I don't think the bw does anything. Prefer the color ann On 10/13/2013 17:34, Brian Walters wrote: G'day all I posted a colour version of this a couple of months ago. I wasn't really happy with the colours in the harsh middle-of-the-day light, so I thought I'd try it in B W. What do you think? http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP1754-K5-1a-bw-peso.html Here's the colour version for comparison: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP1754-K5-1peso.html Comments and suggestions most welcome. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Spider Rock in black white
Quoting Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com: Hi Brian: I actually like the color version better. I think the spider rock get lost in the bw version. Love the angle here. Hi Christine - thanks for the comment. I think it's time I moved on from this image. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ Cheers, Christine On Oct 13, 2013, at 4:34 PM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote: G'day all I posted a colour version of this a couple of months ago. I wasn't really happy with the colours in the harsh middle-of-the-day light, so I thought I'd try it in B W. What do you think? http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP1754-K5-1a-bw-peso.html Here's the colour version for comparison: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP1754-K5-1peso.html Comments and suggestions most welcome. -- -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Spider Rock in black white
Quoting Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com: nah - you were screwed by the time of day you were there... but I don't think the bw does anything. Prefer the color Thanks Ann. Travelling is full of photographic compromises. At least I was in Monument Valley in good light... Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ ann On 10/13/2013 17:34, Brian Walters wrote: G'day all I posted a colour version of this a couple of months ago. I wasn't really happy with the colours in the harsh middle-of-the-day light, so I thought I'd try it in B W. What do you think? http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP1754-K5-1a-bw-peso.html Here's the colour version for comparison: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP1754-K5-1peso.html Comments and suggestions most welcome. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Spider Rock in black white
Colour works better to my eye. Better perception of depth. Seems more 3D to my eye. Beautiful! Cheers, frank Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote: G'day all I posted a colour version of this a couple of months ago. I wasn't really happy with the colours in the harsh middle-of-the-day light, so I thought I'd try it in B W. What do you think? http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP1754-K5-1a-bw-peso.html Here's the colour version for comparison: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP1754-K5-1peso.html Comments and suggestions most welcome. “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Spider Rock in black white
On 13 Oct 2013, at 22:34, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote: G'day all I posted a colour version of this a couple of months ago. I wasn't really happy with the colours in the harsh middle-of-the-day light, so I thought I'd try it in B W. What do you think? http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP1754-K5-1a-bw-peso.html Here's the colour version for comparison: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP1754-K5-1peso.html Comments and suggestions most welcome. You must be really tall! I quite like both versions, but perhaps the black white a bit more. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Spider Rock in black white
I prefer the color one--the BW version doesn't have enough of a tonal range to hold my interest. Both could use a wider tonal or contrast range--some playing with curves might be useful. Cheers, Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW - Original Message - From: Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 5:34 PM Subject: PESO - Spider Rock in black white G'day all I posted a colour version of this a couple of months ago. I wasn't really happy with the colours in the harsh middle-of-the-day light, so I thought I'd try it in B W. What do you think? http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP1754-K5-1a-bw-peso.html Here's the colour version for comparison: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP1754-K5-1peso.html Comments and suggestions most welcome. -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Spider Rock
The light is no harsher than the landscape. Aahz, From the orientation of the shadow, the sun was almost overhead. When traveling, sometimes you take what you can get, But with a dawn or dusk lit scene, this image would move out of the documentary category and into a fine outdoor art category. Its taken me many years to really appreciate the quality of light in my images and there are many times I just won't take a shot knowing the current light will degrade what could otherwise be a good/great image. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Aahz Maruch a...@pobox.com Subject: Re: PESO - Spider Rock On Wed, Jul 10, 2013, Brian Walters wrote: In Canyon de Chelly, Arizona. We were there in the middle of the day so it's a bit harsh - you take the light you're given... https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP1754-K5-1peso.html The light is no harsher than the landscape. (Haven't been there, been to plenty other parts of Arizona/Utah/New Mexico.) -- Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6 http://rule6.info/ * * * Help a hearing-impaired person: http://rule6.info/hearing.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Spider Rock
On Wed, Jul 10, 2013, Brian Walters wrote: In Canyon de Chelly, Arizona. We were there in the middle of the day so it's a bit harsh - you take the light you're given... https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP1754-K5-1peso.html The light is no harsher than the landscape. (Haven't been there, been to plenty other parts of Arizona/Utah/New Mexico.) -- Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6http://rule6.info/ * * * Help a hearing-impaired person: http://rule6.info/hearing.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Spider Rock
Quoting David Mann dmann...@gmail.com: On Jul 10, 2013, at 2:12 PM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP1754-K5-1peso.html That rock must be very popular with the climbers. Looks like a very impressive place, the scale seems vast. As others have mentioned, Canyon de Chelly is on Navajo land and access into the canyon itself is restricted. Navajo people still live and farm there. Spider Rock is just under 300 metres high - it's huge. Although you can't really see them in the web version, the small dots left of the rock and between the watercourse and the track are a couple of horses grazing. Many thanks to all for the comments. -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Spider Rock
On Jul 10, 2013, at 2:12 PM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP1754-K5-1peso.html That rock must be very popular with the climbers. Looks like a very impressive place, the scale seems vast. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Spider Rock
I doubt very much that any climbing of Spider rock is allowed. It is an important part of Navajo folklore and history and though a National Monument, it is on Navajo Nation land. Despite your battle with the light , Brian, I really like this shot.. I've photographed it from about the same spot (like, yeah, that's where the overlook is :-) ) and we hiked down to the White House. Dave - Spider rock is about 800 feet - The canyon at this point really isn't all that vast by high country standards and gets pretty narrow - flash flooding there is always a hazard. Now lets see if -this- mail gets to you all ann On 7/10/2013 05:35, David Mann wrote: On Jul 10, 2013, at 2:12 PM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP1754-K5-1peso.html That rock must be very popular with the climbers. Looks like a very impressive place, the scale seems vast. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Spider Rock
Yes you got to us, Ann. G Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 8:55 AM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: I doubt very much that any climbing of Spider rock is allowed. It is an important part of Navajo folklore and history and though a National Monument, it is on Navajo Nation land. Despite your battle with the light , Brian, I really like this shot.. I've photographed it from about the same spot (like, yeah, that's where the overlook is :-) ) and we hiked down to the White House. Dave - Spider rock is about 800 feet - The canyon at this point really isn't all that vast by high country standards and gets pretty narrow - flash flooding there is always a hazard. Now lets see if -this- mail gets to you all ann On 7/10/2013 05:35, David Mann wrote: On Jul 10, 2013, at 2:12 PM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP1754-K5-1peso.html That rock must be very popular with the climbers. Looks like a very impressive place, the scale seems vast. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Spider Rock
On 7/10/2013 5:35 AM, David Mann wrote: On Jul 10, 2013, at 2:12 PM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP1754-K5-1peso.html That rock must be very popular with the climbers. Looks like a very impressive place, the scale seems vast. Cheers, Dave It's illegal to climb. The Navajo own the canyon the spire is one of their sacred places. The National Park goes around the rim. There are only a couple of places where you are permitted to go into the canyon without being accompanied by a Navajo guide. They run packaged jeep tours that are kind of expensive for what you get. Individual tours - the kind where you can stop get out long enough to set up a tripod - are even more so. Moot point when I was there, because it had rained recently and all of the tours were canceled due to flash floods inside the canyon. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Spider Rock
yayay we are both back! I wrote something similar to you about Spider Rock. which you will eventually see :-) still crossing fingers the problem is solved ann On 7/10/2013 09:45, John wrote: On 7/10/2013 5:35 AM, David Mann wrote: On Jul 10, 2013, at 2:12 PM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP1754-K5-1peso.html That rock must be very popular with the climbers. Looks like a very impressive place, the scale seems vast. Cheers, Dave It's illegal to climb. The Navajo own the canyon the spire is one of their sacred places. The National Park goes around the rim. There are only a couple of places where you are permitted to go into the canyon without being accompanied by a Navajo guide. They run packaged jeep tours that are kind of expensive for what you get. Individual tours - the kind where you can stop get out long enough to set up a tripod - are even more so. Moot point when I was there, because it had rained recently and all of the tours were canceled due to flash floods inside the canyon. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Spider Rock
Impressive structures! The light serves to bring them into relief so works for you here, imo. On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 10:12 PM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote: In Canyon de Chelly, Arizona. We were there in the middle of the day so it's a bit harsh - you take the light you're given... https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP1754-K5-1peso.html Comments and suggestions most welcome. -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO - Spider Rock
Breathtaking scenery beautifully captured. You tamed that light imho. Cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org Sent: July 9, 2013 7/9/13 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: PESO - Spider Rock In Canyon de Chelly, Arizona. We were there in the middle of the day so it's a bit harsh - you take the light you're given... https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP1754-K5-1peso.html Comments and suggestions most welcome. -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Spider Rock
Stunning. Makes one feel quite small. Alan C -Original Message- From: Brian Walters Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 4:12 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: PESO - Spider Rock In Canyon de Chelly, Arizona. We were there in the middle of the day so it's a bit harsh - you take the light you're given... https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP1754-K5-1peso.html Comments and suggestions most welcome. -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Spider Rock
I really like that. The way you have made the double pillar stand out from the background give a 3D effect to the image, and the stream running through the central portion is just perfectly positioned! Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 10:12 PM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote: In Canyon de Chelly, Arizona. We were there in the middle of the day so it's a bit harsh - you take the light you're given... https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP1754-K5-1peso.html Comments and suggestions most welcome. -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
