Re: PESO sunset planespotting

[Steve Cottrell]

On 5/8/13, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed:

>
>Where one person will look at two photos and like the uncluttered 
>photo of the airplane against the sky, and wonder why I even bothered
>showing the photo with the cluttered distracting background, another
>person will wonder why I bothered with the picture of just an airplane
>with no context, and will really like the one that shows the hustle
>and bustle of an active airport in the background.
>
>I would much rather a photo evoke strong feelings of both love and
>hate, rather than have it disappear without a ripple into a sea
>of indifference.

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Re: PESO sunset planespotting

[Larry Colen]

Thanks Dan and Rick.  

In any set of photos, there will rarely be a unanimous favorite.
For that matter, with just about any artistic expression, the
stronger that some people will like something, the more that 
other people will dislike it, and often for the same reasons. 

Where one person will look at two photos and like the uncluttered 
photo of the airplane against the sky, and wonder why I even bothered
showing the photo with the cluttered distracting background, another
person will wonder why I bothered with the picture of just an airplane
with no context, and will really like the one that shows the hustle
and bustle of an active airport in the background.

I would much rather a photo evoke strong feelings of both love and
hate, rather than have it disappear without a ripple into a sea
of indifference.

On Mon, Aug 05, 2013 at 08:59:50AM -0400, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
> Airports by their very nature and design are cluttered.  I amire the
> way Larry handled that in his images.
> 
> Dan Matyola
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
> 
> 
> On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 7:33 AM, Rick Womer  wrote:
> > Larry, the SW 737s landing and taking off (top row center and bottom row 
> > center) are my favorites.  Some of the others are rather cluttered.
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Re: PESO sunset planespotting

[Larry Colen]

Thanks Cotty.

On Mon, Aug 05, 2013 at 03:27:18PM +0100, Steve Cottrell wrote:
> Actually, I really love this one:
> 
> 
> 
> Very evocative of warm summer evenings, going away somewhere on a red-
> eye overnight service, the smell of aviation fuel in the nostrils,
> amazing sights as you lift into the sly with a million twinkling lights
> below, a sight that always surprises and pleases.
> 
> Love it!
> 
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Re: PESO sunset planespotting

[Steve Cottrell]

Actually, I really love this one:



Very evocative of warm summer evenings, going away somewhere on a red-
eye overnight service, the smell of aviation fuel in the nostrils,
amazing sights as you lift into the sly with a million twinkling lights
below, a sight that always surprises and pleases.

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Re: PESO sunset planespotting

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Airports by their very nature and design are cluttered.  I amire the
way Larry handled that in his images.

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On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 7:33 AM, Rick Womer  wrote:
> Larry, the SW 737s landing and taking off (top row center and bottom row 
> center) are my favorites.  Some of the others are rather cluttered.

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Re: PESO sunset planespotting

[Rick Womer]

Larry, the SW 737s landing and taking off (top row center and bottom row 
center) are my favorites.  Some of the others are rather cluttered.

Cheers,

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- Original Message -
From: Larry Colen 
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Sent: Friday, August 2, 2013 4:20 PM
Subject: PESO sunset planespotting

I finally got around to looking at the plane photos I took the night I
photographed the burrowing owl. 
They're a bit rougher than I'd like. I was trying to not blow out the 
colored lights, so everythng not self illuminated was exposed a bit
lower down into the noise, even so, I got a few decent shots,
artistically if not technically:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/9418916483/in/set-72157634899968298

Photographing airplanes is definitely a speicalized skillset that I 
haven't fully developed yet.

If you're curious, the rest of them are at:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157634899968298/
or if you want to see the exif data for each shot:
http://www.fluidr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157634899968298

They were all shot on with the Bigma on the K-5 II, at 3200-5000


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Re: PESO sunset planespotting

[Steve Cottrell]

On 2/8/13, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed:

>I finally got around to looking at the plane photos I took the night I
>photographed the burrowing owl. 
>They're a bit rougher than I'd like. I was trying to not blow out the 
>colored lights, so everythng not self illuminated was exposed a bit
>lower down into the noise, even so, I got a few decent shots,
>artistically if not technically:
>http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/9418916483/in/set-72157634899968298


Great job Lar. The first one is terrific.
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Re: PESO sunset planespotting

[Larry Colen]

On Sat, Aug 03, 2013 at 09:24:03AM -0700, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
> A few of these are very nice indeed, Larry. I particularly like 
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/9418917251/ and 
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/9421681002/ of the original set of four 
> you posted. 

Thanks.

> 
> What focal length range were you using? Out towards the 500mm end or a bit 
> shorter? I don't have much in the way of long tele at present, a 180mm is 
> about my longest at present, but I like the look you achieved here. 

If you follow the fluidr link, it lists the focal lengths:
http://www.fluidr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157634899968298

The first couple were at 420, and most of the rest of the long
ones were at 500.

> 
> Godfrey
> 
> 
> Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> >>> Sent: August 2, 2013 8/2/13
> >>> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> >>> Subject: PESO sunset planespotting
> >>> 
> >>> I finally got around to looking at the plane photos I took the night I
> >>> photographed the burrowing owl. 
> >>> They're a bit rougher than I'd like. I was trying to not blow out the 
> >>> colored lights, so everythng not self illuminated was exposed a bit
> >>> lower down into the noise, even so, I got a few decent shots,
> >>> artistically if not technically:
> >>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/9418916483/in/set-72157634899968298
> >>> 
> >>> Photographing airplanes is definitely a speicalized skillset that I 
> >>> haven't fully developed yet.
> >>> 
> >>> If you're curious, the rest of them are at:
> >>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157634899968298/
> >>> or if you want to see the exif data for each shot:
> >>> http://www.fluidr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157634899968298
> >>> 
> >>> They were all shot on with the Bigma on the K-5 II, at 3200-5000
> 
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Re: PESO sunset planespotting

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

A few of these are very nice indeed, Larry. I particularly like 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/9418917251/ and 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/9421681002/ of the original set of four 
you posted. 

What focal length range were you using? Out towards the 500mm end or a bit 
shorter? I don't have much in the way of long tele at present, a 180mm is about 
my longest at present, but I like the look you achieved here. 

Godfrey


Larry Colen  wrote:

>>> Sent: August 2, 2013 8/2/13
>>> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
>>> Subject: PESO sunset planespotting
>>> 
>>> I finally got around to looking at the plane photos I took the night I
>>> photographed the burrowing owl. 
>>> They're a bit rougher than I'd like. I was trying to not blow out the 
>>> colored lights, so everythng not self illuminated was exposed a bit
>>> lower down into the noise, even so, I got a few decent shots,
>>> artistically if not technically:
>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/9418916483/in/set-72157634899968298
>>> 
>>> Photographing airplanes is definitely a speicalized skillset that I 
>>> haven't fully developed yet.
>>> 
>>> If you're curious, the rest of them are at:
>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157634899968298/
>>> or if you want to see the exif data for each shot:
>>> http://www.fluidr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157634899968298
>>> 
>>> They were all shot on with the Bigma on the K-5 II, at 3200-5000


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Re: PESO sunset planespotting

[Larry Colen]

On Sat, Aug 03, 2013 at 09:03:10AM -0400, Paul Stenquist wrote:
> Excellent set. 

Thanks Paul.

> 
> Paul
> On Aug 3, 2013, at 12:18 AM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> > 9497 and 9534 are my favourites from a very strong 
> > set.
> > 
> > Surprised cops didn't arrest you, though. Taking pictures in the dark at 
> > the end of a runway? Clearly terrorist activity!
> > 
> > ;-)
> > 
> > cheers,
> > frank
> > 
> > --- Original Message ---
> > 
> > From: Larry Colen 
> > Sent: August 2, 2013 8/2/13
> > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> > Subject: PESO sunset planespotting
> > 
> > I finally got around to looking at the plane photos I took the night I
> > photographed the burrowing owl. 
> > They're a bit rougher than I'd like. I was trying to not blow out the 
> > colored lights, so everythng not self illuminated was exposed a bit
> > lower down into the noise, even so, I got a few decent shots,
> > artistically if not technically:
> > http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/9418916483/in/set-72157634899968298
> > 
> > Photographing airplanes is definitely a speicalized skillset that I 
> > haven't fully developed yet.
> > 
> > If you're curious, the rest of them are at:
> > http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157634899968298/
> > or if you want to see the exif data for each shot:
> > http://www.fluidr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157634899968298
> > 
> > They were all shot on with the Bigma on the K-5 II, at 3200-5000
> > 
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Re: PESO sunset planespotting

[Paul Stenquist]

Excellent set. 

Paul
On Aug 3, 2013, at 12:18 AM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

> 9497 and 9534 are my favourites from a very strong 
> set.
> 
> Surprised cops didn't arrest you, though. Taking pictures in the dark at the 
> end of a runway? Clearly terrorist activity!
> 
> ;-)
> 
> cheers,
> frank
> 
> --- Original Message ---
> 
> From: Larry Colen 
> Sent: August 2, 2013 8/2/13
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Subject: PESO sunset planespotting
> 
> I finally got around to looking at the plane photos I took the night I
> photographed the burrowing owl. 
> They're a bit rougher than I'd like. I was trying to not blow out the 
> colored lights, so everythng not self illuminated was exposed a bit
> lower down into the noise, even so, I got a few decent shots,
> artistically if not technically:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/9418916483/in/set-72157634899968298
> 
> Photographing airplanes is definitely a speicalized skillset that I 
> haven't fully developed yet.
> 
> If you're curious, the rest of them are at:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157634899968298/
> or if you want to see the exif data for each shot:
> http://www.fluidr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157634899968298
> 
> They were all shot on with the Bigma on the K-5 II, at 3200-5000
> 
> 
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Re: PESO sunset planespotting

[Larry Colen]

On Sat, Aug 03, 2013 at 11:39:18AM +0530, Bipin Gupta wrote:
> Larry, you are getting to be an expert on airplane shots. Beautiful
> low light photo on your first link. Saw the rest too on Flickr &
> Fluidr.

Thanks Bipin, that's awfully nice of you to say.  It was seriously
my first attempt at photographing planes since I owned a camera with
a telephoto lens.  

> How do they allow you to enter armed with a Bigma? Lucky you.

I was just outside the fence, I used the GPS on some of the shots,
and just updated the location info on the rest.  If you click 
on the location, it will show a map of how I was in the parking lot
for waiting for people to arrive, just off the end of the 
runway.

The owl in these shots was sitting on the fence at the end of 
the runway.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157634684347823/

> Keep shootin & posting.

Thank you.

> 
> Here is some resource I picked up from a Welsh (UK) low flying
> airplane shooter:-
> Since military fast jets travel at about 400-450 knots (750 to 850
> kmph), camera settings become increasingly important.
> Continuous autofocus is a must for tracking fast-moving targets.
> Reducing the number of active focus points helps increase autofocus
> performance, too.
> Fast shutter speeds in the region of 1/800-1/1600 sec work well, but
> good action shots can be captured in-camera by using much slower
> speeds to blur the background and keep the subject sharp. Try
> something in the range of 1/125-1/500 sec.
> For cockpit-level shots, you’ll need a long lens – consider a 500mm or
> 600mm telephoto. Use wide apertures and high ISOs for action-stopping
> shutter speeds.

According to the map, I was a few hundred meters from the end of the runway.
I was shooting at 500m, until the planes were just landing, then I'd have
to zoom out.


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Re: PESO sunset planespotting

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On Sat, Aug 03, 2013 at 04:18:56AM +, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
> 9497 and 9534 are my favourites from a very strong 
> set.

Thanks.  9534 was one that I was considering as the one to post.
Also 9560 (the last one with the plane barely visible).  

I was just lucky that my sister chose to fly on on a day with such a 
scenic sunset, and on a flight that ran just late enough for me
to catch the whole thing.

I just realized that the building in 9534 is the new 49er stadium. 
I'm used to seeing it from my office which is on the other side. 
I'm also not used to seeing it through a 500mm lens.

> 
> Surprised cops didn't arrest you, though. Taking pictures in the dark at the 
> end of a runway? Clearly terrorist activity!

Hey! I learned my lesson.  I had the camera on a tripod, I wasn't 
using the bushhawk!

> 
> ;-)
> 
> cheers,
> frank
> 
> --- Original Message ---
> 
> From: Larry Colen 
> Sent: August 2, 2013 8/2/13
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Subject: PESO sunset planespotting
> 
> I finally got around to looking at the plane photos I took the night I
> photographed the burrowing owl. 
> They're a bit rougher than I'd like. I was trying to not blow out the 
> colored lights, so everythng not self illuminated was exposed a bit
> lower down into the noise, even so, I got a few decent shots,
> artistically if not technically:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/9418916483/in/set-72157634899968298
> 
> Photographing airplanes is definitely a speicalized skillset that I 
> haven't fully developed yet.
> 
> If you're curious, the rest of them are at:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157634899968298/
> or if you want to see the exif data for each shot:
> http://www.fluidr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157634899968298
> 
> They were all shot on with the Bigma on the K-5 II, at 3200-5000
> 
> 
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RE: PESO sunset planespotting

[knarftheria...@gmail.com]

9497 and 9534 are my favourites from a very strong 
set.

Surprised cops didn't arrest you, though. Taking pictures in the dark at the 
end of a runway? Clearly terrorist activity!

;-)

cheers,
frank

--- Original Message ---

From: Larry Colen 
Sent: August 2, 2013 8/2/13
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Subject: PESO sunset planespotting

I finally got around to looking at the plane photos I took the night I
photographed the burrowing owl. 
They're a bit rougher than I'd like. I was trying to not blow out the 
colored lights, so everythng not self illuminated was exposed a bit
lower down into the noise, even so, I got a few decent shots,
artistically if not technically:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/9418916483/in/set-72157634899968298

Photographing airplanes is definitely a speicalized skillset that I 
haven't fully developed yet.

If you're curious, the rest of them are at:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157634899968298/
or if you want to see the exif data for each shot:
http://www.fluidr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157634899968298

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Re: PESO sunset planespotting

[Larry Colen]

On Fri, Aug 02, 2013 at 05:15:15PM -0400, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
> That is a solid image!  I like the sunset colors, but even more the
> way the horizontal stabilizer is silhouetted against the sky and
> towers over the control tower.

Thanks. I was specifically trying to catch a frame when the plane
was straight on towards me, with the sunset in the background,
a lot of the rest was just dumb luck. Either that or I was 
paying attention to the other things while taking the shot, 
but not consciously thinking of them.

> Dan Matyola
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
> 
> 
> On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 4:20 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> > I finally got around to looking at the plane photos I took the night I
> > photographed the burrowing owl.
> > They're a bit rougher than I'd like. I was trying to not blow out the
> > colored lights, so everythng not self illuminated was exposed a bit
> > lower down into the noise, even so, I got a few decent shots,
> > artistically if not technically:
> > http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/9418916483/in/set-72157634899968298
> >
> > Photographing airplanes is definitely a speicalized skillset that I
> > haven't fully developed yet.
> >
> > If you're curious, the rest of them are at:
> > http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157634899968298/
> > or if you want to see the exif data for each shot:
> > http://www.fluidr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157634899968298
> >
> > They were all shot on with the Bigma on the K-5 II, at 3200-5000
> >
> >
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Re: PESO sunset planespotting

[Daniel J. Matyola]

That is a solid image!  I like the sunset colors, but even more the
way the horizontal stabilizer is silhouetted against the sky and
towers over the control tower.
Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 4:20 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> I finally got around to looking at the plane photos I took the night I
> photographed the burrowing owl.
> They're a bit rougher than I'd like. I was trying to not blow out the
> colored lights, so everythng not self illuminated was exposed a bit
> lower down into the noise, even so, I got a few decent shots,
> artistically if not technically:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/9418916483/in/set-72157634899968298
>
> Photographing airplanes is definitely a speicalized skillset that I
> haven't fully developed yet.
>
> If you're curious, the rest of them are at:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157634899968298/
> or if you want to see the exif data for each shot:
> http://www.fluidr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157634899968298
>
> They were all shot on with the Bigma on the K-5 II, at 3200-5000
>
>
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