Re: Photoshop problems
Hey, John; glad to hear you are making progress. The GPU is used for a whole bunch of large and small things. Particularly for me the GPU is used to render the brush tool cursor when I choose Full Size Brush Tip and Show Crosshair in Brush Tip. I use this for more accurate dodging and burning (skin retouching). It's also used for smooth scrolling around the image when magnified. If GPU disabled is no different for you from enabling GPU options then I expect that your graphics card isn't well supported and you'd be better off just disabling it. Your unusual VGA hookup could be affecting this. GPUs may need a reasonably modern monitor with a direct HDMI or USB-3 (USB-C) connection for proper functioning. Cheers! On Sun, Apr 5, 2020 at 2:31 AM wrote: > > Finished testing the GPU options. Went through each with sample files of > the same size (9 MB), using no GPU acceleration and then Basic, Normal and > Advanced settings, and had no problems with the Basic and Normal settings: > however, on switching to Advanced, the problem recurred. I found it > interesting that turning GPU acceleration off did not appear to greatly > effect the normal speed of redrawing the image after changes such as > cropping and resizing. So I wonder whether there is any advantage to using > it of which I am not aware? Just to add a complication, I am displaying my > work on an external monitor linked via the VGA socket through a VGA to HDMI > converter to an HDMI input! > > Thanks again, Bruce. > > > John in Brisbane > > > > -Original Message- > From: PDML On Behalf Of Bruce Walker > Sent: Saturday, 4 April 2020 11:50 PM > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: Photoshop problems > > John, a few things to consider: > > Since changing the app is easier than Windows, have you tried downgrading to > an earlier version of Photoshop? > Try adding more scratch space. You can configure multiple drives to supply > Ps swap. > Try playing with the GPU acceleration options. I'd first try disabling it > completely to see the effects. > > BTW, it's working fine for me on a 5K iMac. Ps version 21.0.3. > > Good luck! > > On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 10:16 PM wrote: > > > > Last few days PSCC has become unusable. I am currently working on a > > number of old family photos, which I have scanned to TIFF files, > > usually at anything from 400-1200 ppi, depending upon the original > > size of the print (always from prints). > > I can crop, spot fix, clone areas, adjust highlights/shadows etc. with > > no problems, but even a minor resize causes the whole application to > freeze. > > Anyone else having this problem? I am using an HP Pavilion laptop > > with a decent specification, and have over 107GB available on my > > scratch disk, and over 800Gb available on the source disk, so I don't > > think capacity is the issue. Processor is a Core-i7 at 1.80 GHz, 16GB > > RAM and 64-bit W10 fully updated. > > A little research suggests perhaps it is not PS but Windows causing > > the issue, but I don't want to roll back the last windows update > unnecessarily. > > > > > > John in Brisbane > > > > > > > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > > > > -- > -bmw > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Photoshop problems
Finished testing the GPU options. Went through each with sample files of the same size (9 MB), using no GPU acceleration and then Basic, Normal and Advanced settings, and had no problems with the Basic and Normal settings: however, on switching to Advanced, the problem recurred. I found it interesting that turning GPU acceleration off did not appear to greatly effect the normal speed of redrawing the image after changes such as cropping and resizing. So I wonder whether there is any advantage to using it of which I am not aware? Just to add a complication, I am displaying my work on an external monitor linked via the VGA socket through a VGA to HDMI converter to an HDMI input! Thanks again, Bruce. John in Brisbane -Original Message- From: PDML On Behalf Of Bruce Walker Sent: Saturday, 4 April 2020 11:50 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Photoshop problems John, a few things to consider: Since changing the app is easier than Windows, have you tried downgrading to an earlier version of Photoshop? Try adding more scratch space. You can configure multiple drives to supply Ps swap. Try playing with the GPU acceleration options. I'd first try disabling it completely to see the effects. BTW, it's working fine for me on a 5K iMac. Ps version 21.0.3. Good luck! On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 10:16 PM wrote: > > Last few days PSCC has become unusable. I am currently working on a > number of old family photos, which I have scanned to TIFF files, > usually at anything from 400-1200 ppi, depending upon the original > size of the print (always from prints). > I can crop, spot fix, clone areas, adjust highlights/shadows etc. with > no problems, but even a minor resize causes the whole application to freeze. > Anyone else having this problem? I am using an HP Pavilion laptop > with a decent specification, and have over 107GB available on my > scratch disk, and over 800Gb available on the source disk, so I don't > think capacity is the issue. Processor is a Core-i7 at 1.80 GHz, 16GB > RAM and 64-bit W10 fully updated. > A little research suggests perhaps it is not PS but Windows causing > the issue, but I don't want to roll back the last windows update unnecessarily. > > > John in Brisbane > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Photoshop problems
Hi Bruce - thanks for the suggestions: I'm using just over 9GB of scratch space on a separate drive, which is in the mid-range of what PS is recommending. I'm going to switch through the GPU options to see what effect each has, starting with it disabled. John in Brisbane -Original Message- From: PDML On Behalf Of Bruce Walker Sent: Saturday, 4 April 2020 11:50 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Photoshop problems John, a few things to consider: Since changing the app is easier than Windows, have you tried downgrading to an earlier version of Photoshop? Try adding more scratch space. You can configure multiple drives to supply Ps swap. Try playing with the GPU acceleration options. I'd first try disabling it completely to see the effects. BTW, it's working fine for me on a 5K iMac. Ps version 21.0.3. Good luck! On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 10:16 PM wrote: > > Last few days PSCC has become unusable. I am currently working on a > number of old family photos, which I have scanned to TIFF files, > usually at anything from 400-1200 ppi, depending upon the original > size of the print (always from prints). > I can crop, spot fix, clone areas, adjust highlights/shadows etc. with > no problems, but even a minor resize causes the whole application to freeze. > Anyone else having this problem? I am using an HP Pavilion laptop > with a decent specification, and have over 107GB available on my > scratch disk, and over 800Gb available on the source disk, so I don't > think capacity is the issue. Processor is a Core-i7 at 1.80 GHz, 16GB > RAM and 64-bit W10 fully updated. > A little research suggests perhaps it is not PS but Windows causing > the issue, but I don't want to roll back the last windows update unnecessarily. > > > John in Brisbane > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Photoshop problems
Thanks, Henk. My feeling too but upgrading is so expensive in SA now. I'll see if I can find some bargain basement RAM. Hopefully 16G will be somewhat better. Alan C On 04-Apr-20 05:35 PM, Henk Terhell wrote: Alan, the only solution in my opinion is to upgrade or replace hardware. For photo editing of RAW files 6G RAM is borderline and having an old system won't help as well. Henk Op 2020-04-04 om 16:48 schreef Alan C: I've been following this thread with interest. I still use Elements 13 which is quite good enough for my purposes but have noticed it is much slower with the larger K5 files than it was with the smaller K110D files. I've tweaked everything as best I can but find I can't really process more than half a dozen files at a time without paralysing the system. I have 6G RAM and 12G Virtual Memory but wonder if this is enough? Any helpful comments would be much appreciated. The computer is an oldish Acer Laptop with Intel Core i3 processor running Win10. Alan C On 04-Apr-20 03:49 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: John, a few things to consider: Since changing the app is easier than Windows, have you tried downgrading to an earlier version of Photoshop? Try adding more scratch space. You can configure multiple drives to supply Ps swap. Try playing with the GPU acceleration options. I'd first try disabling it completely to see the effects. BTW, it's working fine for me on a 5K iMac. Ps version 21.0.3. Good luck! On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 10:16 PM wrote: Last few days PSCC has become unusable. I am currently working on a number of old family photos, which I have scanned to TIFF files, usually at anything from 400-1200 ppi, depending upon the original size of the print (always from prints). I can crop, spot fix, clone areas, adjust highlights/shadows etc. with no problems, but even a minor resize causes the whole application to freeze. Anyone else having this problem? I am using an HP Pavilion laptop with a decent specification, and have over 107GB available on my scratch disk, and over 800Gb available on the source disk, so I don't think capacity is the issue. Processor is a Core-i7 at 1.80 GHz, 16GB RAM and 64-bit W10 fully updated. A little research suggests perhaps it is not PS but Windows causing the issue, but I don't want to roll back the last windows update unnecessarily. John in Brisbane -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Photoshop problems
Alan, the only solution in my opinion is to upgrade or replace hardware. For photo editing of RAW files 6G RAM is borderline and having an old system won't help as well. Henk Op 2020-04-04 om 16:48 schreef Alan C: I've been following this thread with interest. I still use Elements 13 which is quite good enough for my purposes but have noticed it is much slower with the larger K5 files than it was with the smaller K110D files. I've tweaked everything as best I can but find I can't really process more than half a dozen files at a time without paralysing the system. I have 6G RAM and 12G Virtual Memory but wonder if this is enough? Any helpful comments would be much appreciated. The computer is an oldish Acer Laptop with Intel Core i3 processor running Win10. Alan C On 04-Apr-20 03:49 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: John, a few things to consider: Since changing the app is easier than Windows, have you tried downgrading to an earlier version of Photoshop? Try adding more scratch space. You can configure multiple drives to supply Ps swap. Try playing with the GPU acceleration options. I'd first try disabling it completely to see the effects. BTW, it's working fine for me on a 5K iMac. Ps version 21.0.3. Good luck! On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 10:16 PM wrote: Last few days PSCC has become unusable. I am currently working on a number of old family photos, which I have scanned to TIFF files, usually at anything from 400-1200 ppi, depending upon the original size of the print (always from prints). I can crop, spot fix, clone areas, adjust highlights/shadows etc. with no problems, but even a minor resize causes the whole application to freeze. Anyone else having this problem? I am using an HP Pavilion laptop with a decent specification, and have over 107GB available on my scratch disk, and over 800Gb available on the source disk, so I don't think capacity is the issue. Processor is a Core-i7 at 1.80 GHz, 16GB RAM and 64-bit W10 fully updated. A little research suggests perhaps it is not PS but Windows causing the issue, but I don't want to roll back the last windows update unnecessarily. John in Brisbane -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Photoshop problems
Yes, I originally had that & still wonder why I upgraded! I have an older (free) version of DXO too - contains some useful presets. Alan C On 04-Apr-20 05:02 PM, David J Brooks wrote: On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 10:49 AM Alan C wrote: I've been following this thread with interest. I still use Elements 13 Im still on Elements 9. Dave which is quite good enough for my purposes but have noticed it is much slower with the larger K5 files than it was with the smaller K110D files. I've tweaked everything as best I can but find I can't really process more than half a dozen files at a time without paralysing the system. I have 6G RAM and 12G Virtual Memory but wonder if this is enough? Any helpful comments would be much appreciated. The computer is an oldish Acer Laptop with Intel Core i3 processor running Win10. Alan C -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Photoshop problems
On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 10:49 AM Alan C wrote: > I've been following this thread with interest. I still use Elements 13 > Im still on Elements 9. Dave > which is quite good enough for my purposes but have noticed it is much > slower with the larger K5 files than it was with the smaller K110D > files. I've tweaked everything as best I can but find I can't really > process more than half a dozen files at a time without paralysing the > system. I have 6G RAM and 12G Virtual Memory but wonder if this is > enough? Any helpful comments would be much appreciated. The computer is > an oldish Acer Laptop with Intel Core i3 processor running Win10. > > Alan C > > > > > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >> PDML@pdml.net > >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > > > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Photoshop problems
I've been following this thread with interest. I still use Elements 13 which is quite good enough for my purposes but have noticed it is much slower with the larger K5 files than it was with the smaller K110D files. I've tweaked everything as best I can but find I can't really process more than half a dozen files at a time without paralysing the system. I have 6G RAM and 12G Virtual Memory but wonder if this is enough? Any helpful comments would be much appreciated. The computer is an oldish Acer Laptop with Intel Core i3 processor running Win10. Alan C On 04-Apr-20 03:49 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: John, a few things to consider: Since changing the app is easier than Windows, have you tried downgrading to an earlier version of Photoshop? Try adding more scratch space. You can configure multiple drives to supply Ps swap. Try playing with the GPU acceleration options. I'd first try disabling it completely to see the effects. BTW, it's working fine for me on a 5K iMac. Ps version 21.0.3. Good luck! On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 10:16 PM wrote: Last few days PSCC has become unusable. I am currently working on a number of old family photos, which I have scanned to TIFF files, usually at anything from 400-1200 ppi, depending upon the original size of the print (always from prints). I can crop, spot fix, clone areas, adjust highlights/shadows etc. with no problems, but even a minor resize causes the whole application to freeze. Anyone else having this problem? I am using an HP Pavilion laptop with a decent specification, and have over 107GB available on my scratch disk, and over 800Gb available on the source disk, so I don't think capacity is the issue. Processor is a Core-i7 at 1.80 GHz, 16GB RAM and 64-bit W10 fully updated. A little research suggests perhaps it is not PS but Windows causing the issue, but I don't want to roll back the last windows update unnecessarily. John in Brisbane -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Photoshop problems
John, a few things to consider: Since changing the app is easier than Windows, have you tried downgrading to an earlier version of Photoshop? Try adding more scratch space. You can configure multiple drives to supply Ps swap. Try playing with the GPU acceleration options. I'd first try disabling it completely to see the effects. BTW, it's working fine for me on a 5K iMac. Ps version 21.0.3. Good luck! On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 10:16 PM wrote: > > Last few days PSCC has become unusable. I am currently working on a number > of old family photos, which I have scanned to TIFF files, usually at > anything from 400-1200 ppi, depending upon the original size of the print > (always from prints). > I can crop, spot fix, clone areas, adjust highlights/shadows etc. with no > problems, but even a minor resize causes the whole application to freeze. > Anyone else having this problem? I am using an HP Pavilion laptop with a > decent specification, and have over 107GB available on my scratch disk, and > over 800Gb available on the source disk, so I don't think capacity is the > issue. Processor is a Core-i7 at 1.80 GHz, 16GB RAM and 64-bit W10 fully > updated. > A little research suggests perhaps it is not PS but Windows causing the > issue, but I don't want to roll back the last windows update unnecessarily. > > > John in Brisbane > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Photoshop problems
PSCC is working fine for me on my Mac. Adobe provided an update just the other day. Paul > On Apr 3, 2020, at 10:16 PM, jco...@iinet.net.au wrote: > > Last few days PSCC has become unusable. I am currently working on a number > of old family photos, which I have scanned to TIFF files, usually at > anything from 400-1200 ppi, depending upon the original size of the print > (always from prints). > I can crop, spot fix, clone areas, adjust highlights/shadows etc. with no > problems, but even a minor resize causes the whole application to freeze. > Anyone else having this problem? I am using an HP Pavilion laptop with a > decent specification, and have over 107GB available on my scratch disk, and > over 800Gb available on the source disk, so I don't think capacity is the > issue. Processor is a Core-i7 at 1.80 GHz, 16GB RAM and 64-bit W10 fully > updated. > A little research suggests perhaps it is not PS but Windows causing the > issue, but I don't want to roll back the last windows update unnecessarily. > > > John in Brisbane > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
