Re: 50mm lenses and flare

[mike wilson]

> >>> You have to try pretty hard to go wrong with a Pentax 50mm.
> >>>   
> >> Throwing down the gauntlet?
> >> 
> > Looks like the gloves are coming off.
> >   
>  I admit only to being smitten.
>  
> >>> You pointing the finger at me?
> >>>   
> >> On the nail.
> >> 
> > Better be quick!
> >   
>  Don't be cuticle.
>  
> >>> I'm outta this joint.
> >>>   
> >> Sinew it.
> >> 
> >
> > Look at you guys carpal on.
> 
> I've never meta carpal I didn't like

Glover-man Chang strikes again.

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Re: 50mm lenses and flare

[Derby Chang]

David Savage wrote:

On 23 February 2010 17:43, mike wilson  wrote:
  

You have to try pretty hard to go wrong with a Pentax 50mm.
  

Throwing down the gauntlet?


Looks like the gloves are coming off.
  

I admit only to being smitten.


You pointing the finger at me?
  

On the nail.


Better be quick!
  

Don't be cuticle.


I'm outta this joint.
  

Sinew it.



Look at you guys carpal on.

  


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Re: 50mm lenses and flare

[David Savage]

On 23 February 2010 17:43, mike wilson  wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> You have to try pretty hard to go wrong with a Pentax 50mm.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >Throwing down the gauntlet?
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Looks like the gloves are coming off.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >I admit only to being smitten.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> You pointing the finger at me?
>> >> >
>> >> >On the nail.
>> >>
>> >> Better be quick!
>> >
>> >Don't be cuticle.
>>
>> I'm outta this joint.
>
> Sinew it.

Look at you guys carpal on.

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Re: 50mm lenses and flare

[mike wilson]

> >> >> >> >> You have to try pretty hard to go wrong with a Pentax 50mm.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >Throwing down the gauntlet?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Looks like the gloves are coming off.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >I admit only to being smitten.
> >> >>
> >> >> You pointing the finger at me?
> >> >
> >> >On the nail.
> >>
> >> Better be quick!
> >
> >Don't be cuticle.
> 
> I'm outta this joint.

Sinew it.

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Re: 50mm lenses and flare

[Cotty]

>> >> >> >> You have to try pretty hard to go wrong with a Pentax 50mm.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Throwing down the gauntlet?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Looks like the gloves are coming off.
>> >> >
>> >> >I admit only to being smitten.
>> >>
>> >> You pointing the finger at me?
>> >
>> >On the nail.
>>
>> Better be quick!
>
>Don't be cuticle.

I'm outta this joint.



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Re: 50mm lenses and flare

[mike wilson]

 Cotty  wrote: 
> 
> 
> >> >> >> You have to try pretty hard to go wrong with a Pentax 50mm.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Throwing down the gauntlet?
> >> >>
> >> >> Looks like the gloves are coming off.
> >> >
> >> >I admit only to being smitten.
> >>
> >> You pointing the finger at me?
> >
> >On the nail.
> 
> Better be quick!

Don't be cuticle.

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Re: 50mm lenses and flare

[Cotty]

>> >> >> You have to try pretty hard to go wrong with a Pentax 50mm.
>> >> >
>> >> >Throwing down the gauntlet?
>> >>
>> >> Looks like the gloves are coming off.
>> >
>> >I admit only to being smitten.
>>
>> You pointing the finger at me?
>
>On the nail.

Better be quick!


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Re: 50mm lenses and flare

[eckinator]

2010/2/22 David Savage :
> On 22 February 2010 18:18, Cotty  wrote:
>>
>>
 >> You have to try pretty hard to go wrong with a Pentax 50mm.
 >
 >Throwing down the gauntlet?

 Looks like the gloves are coming off.
>>>
>>>I admit only to being smitten.
>>
>> You pointing the finger at me?
>
> He's actually pointing to the sky.
>
> But the knuckle & of the middle finger is facing you.
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Re: 50mm lenses and flare

[David Savage]

On 22 February 2010 18:18, Cotty  wrote:
>
>
>>> >> You have to try pretty hard to go wrong with a Pentax 50mm.
>>> >
>>> >Throwing down the gauntlet?
>>>
>>> Looks like the gloves are coming off.
>>
>>I admit only to being smitten.
>
> You pointing the finger at me?

He's actually pointing to the sky.

But the knuckle & of the middle finger is facing you.

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Re: 50mm lenses and flare

[mike wilson]

 Cotty  wrote: 
> 
> 
> >> >> You have to try pretty hard to go wrong with a Pentax 50mm.
> >> >
> >> >Throwing down the gauntlet?
> >>
> >> Looks like the gloves are coming off.
> >
> >I admit only to being smitten.
> 
> You pointing the finger at me?

On the nail.

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Re: 50mm lenses and flare

[eckinator]

thank you everybody that was very helpful!!!
ecke

2010/2/22 Carlos R :
>
>
> eckinator escribió:
>
>>
>> q...@all: is it generally an ok choice or had i better save up for sump'n
>> else and if so then what?
>>
>
> I have an M 50 mm. 1.4 and an F 50 mm. 1.7. Like Godfrey said, the F 1.7 is
> better wide open and up to 2.8, and it is also AF and an "A" lens. The M 1.4
> is better built, although I haven't had problems about the build quality of
> the F  1.7.
>
> Carlos
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Re: 50mm lenses and flare

[Carlos R]

eckinator escribió:



q...@all: is it generally an ok choice or had i better save up for sump'n
else and if so then what?



I have an M 50 mm. 1.4 and an F 50 mm. 1.7. Like Godfrey said, the F 1.7 
is better wide open and up to 2.8, and it is also AF and an "A" lens. 
The M 1.4 is better built, although I haven't had problems about the 
build quality of the F  1.7.


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Re: 50mm lenses and flare

[Cotty]

>> >> You have to try pretty hard to go wrong with a Pentax 50mm.
>> >
>> >Throwing down the gauntlet?
>>
>> Looks like the gloves are coming off.
>
>I admit only to being smitten.

You pointing the finger at me?


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Re: 50mm lenses and flare

[mike wilson]

 Cotty  wrote: 
> 
> >> You have to try pretty hard to go wrong with a Pentax 50mm.
> >
> >Throwing down the gauntlet?
> 
> Looks like the gloves are coming off.

I admit only to being smitten.

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Re: 50mm lenses and flare

[mike wilson]

 John Sessoms  wrote: 
> From: mike wilson
> > eckinator wrote:
> >  
> >> > q...@all: is it generally an ok choice or had i better save up for sump'n
> >> > else and if so then what?
> > 
> > You have to try pretty hard to go wrong with a Pentax 50mm.
> 
> Throwing down the gauntlet?

Not even slightly. But... a good condition 50mm is a superlative tool.  It 
takes another one to render it completely useless.  I should know.

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Re: 50mm lenses and flare

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>> You have to try pretty hard to go wrong with a Pentax 50mm.
>
>Throwing down the gauntlet?

Looks like the gloves are coming off.



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Re: 50mm lenses and flare

[John Sessoms]

From: mike wilson

eckinator wrote:
 

> q...@all: is it generally an ok choice or had i better save up for sump'n
> else and if so then what?


You have to try pretty hard to go wrong with a Pentax 50mm.


Throwing down the gauntlet?

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Re: 50mm lenses and flare

[Ken Waller]

I've used collapsible rubber hoods for years - never a problem & they take 
up very little space when collapsed.


Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: "Cotty" 

Subject: Re: 50mm lenses and flare



On 21/2/10, Bob Sullivan, discombobulated, unleashed:


Gee, just get a 49mm or 52mm screw in metal lens hood from somebody's
scrap bin.
Screw-in is better than clip-on (& fall-off).  Metal is more
protective in crashes than plastic.
Any of the standard hoods 50mm lens hoods are wide enough to not
vignette on the 1.5x sensor.


Bob, good advice. But consider plastic - when you ding a metal hood, it
often dents where plastic will usually retain its shape. Or shatter
dramatically! Personally I have always had clip-ons and never had a
problem with them falling off - better still, they are usually
reversible and will clip on in the other direction when not in use.
Also, if you consider that a 1.5 crop sensor is seeing 'less' of the
picture-taking area with a given lens than a 35mm film camera, then a
deeper hood would seem a better choice - and of course not too deep
otherwise it will vignette.

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Re: 50mm lenses and flare

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On Feb 21, 2010, at 6:30 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

> Gee, just get a 49mm or 52mm screw in metal lens hood from somebody's scrap 
> bin.
> Screw-in is better than clip-on (& fall-off).  Metal is more
> protective in crashes than plastic.
> Any of the standard hoods 50mm lens hoods are wide enough to not
> vignette on the 1.5x sensor.
> Regards,  Bob S.
> 

Yep. I use a metal lens hood from a 135/3.5 super takumar on my 50/1.4. It's 
the perfect hood for a 50 on an APS sensor.
Paul


> On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 3:13 PM, P. J. Alling
>  wrote:
>> That's not going to work on the M50 f1.7 or the FA 50 f1.4 without a step
>> ring.  The filter he want's is the one that came with the M 85mm f2 and M
>> 100 f2.8.  I use that one regularly with my 43mm limited.  Be aware however
>> the clips on that hood are made of  "Mouser Hair"®  I ended up destroying an
>> old scratched up UV filter (HOYA by the way), and gluing it to the hood for
>> the threads.
>> 
>> On 2/21/2010 3:06 PM, Cotty wrote:
>>> 
>>> On 21/2/10, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed:
>>> 
>>> 
 
 I used a number of the 50mm lenses when I was shooting with Pentax
 cameras: M50/1.4, A50/1.4, A50/1.7, F50/1.7, FA50/1.4 and A50/2.8
 Macro. There's no substantive difference in the tendency to flare for
 any of the 50/1.4s, and not much different to the 50/1.7s. A deep lens
 hood is required for the DSLR bodies, much deeper than the original
 equipment hood (you need a hood for about an 85mm lens).
 
>>> 
>>> Indeed. When I used the 50/1.2 on a 1.6x crop sensor camera, I found a
>>> great Pentax lenshood that fit and worked a treat. Better: it was a clip
>>> on - can't remember the model but you can see it here, and the eagle-
>>> eyed will ID it:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>>   Cotty
>>> 
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Re: 50mm lenses and flare

[Cotty]

On 21/2/10, Bob Sullivan, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Gee, just get a 49mm or 52mm screw in metal lens hood from somebody's
>scrap bin.
>Screw-in is better than clip-on (& fall-off).  Metal is more
>protective in crashes than plastic.
>Any of the standard hoods 50mm lens hoods are wide enough to not
>vignette on the 1.5x sensor.

Bob, good advice. But consider plastic - when you ding a metal hood, it
often dents where plastic will usually retain its shape. Or shatter
dramatically! Personally I have always had clip-ons and never had a
problem with them falling off - better still, they are usually
reversible and will clip on in the other direction when not in use.
Also, if you consider that a 1.5 crop sensor is seeing 'less' of the
picture-taking area with a given lens than a 35mm film camera, then a
deeper hood would seem a better choice - and of course not too deep
otherwise it will vignette.

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Re: 50mm lenses and flare

[Bob Sullivan]

Gee, just get a 49mm or 52mm screw in metal lens hood from somebody's scrap bin.
Screw-in is better than clip-on (& fall-off).  Metal is more
protective in crashes than plastic.
Any of the standard hoods 50mm lens hoods are wide enough to not
vignette on the 1.5x sensor.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 3:13 PM, P. J. Alling
 wrote:
> That's not going to work on the M50 f1.7 or the FA 50 f1.4 without a step
> ring.  The filter he want's is the one that came with the M 85mm f2 and M
> 100 f2.8.  I use that one regularly with my 43mm limited.  Be aware however
> the clips on that hood are made of  "Mouser Hair"®  I ended up destroying an
> old scratched up UV filter (HOYA by the way), and gluing it to the hood for
> the threads.
>
> On 2/21/2010 3:06 PM, Cotty wrote:
>>
>> On 21/2/10, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed:
>>
>>
>>>
>>> I used a number of the 50mm lenses when I was shooting with Pentax
>>> cameras: M50/1.4, A50/1.4, A50/1.7, F50/1.7, FA50/1.4 and A50/2.8
>>> Macro. There's no substantive difference in the tendency to flare for
>>> any of the 50/1.4s, and not much different to the 50/1.7s. A deep lens
>>> hood is required for the DSLR bodies, much deeper than the original
>>> equipment hood (you need a hood for about an 85mm lens).
>>>
>>
>> Indeed. When I used the 50/1.2 on a 1.6x crop sensor camera, I found a
>> great Pentax lenshood that fit and worked a treat. Better: it was a clip
>> on - can't remember the model but you can see it here, and the eagle-
>> eyed will ID it:
>>
>> 
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>>   Cotty
>>
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Re: 50mm lenses and flare

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On 21/2/10, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed:

>You have to try pretty hard to go wrong with a Pentax 50mm.

Mark.

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Re: 50mm lenses and flare

[mike wilson]

eckinator wrote:



q...@all: is it generally an ok choice or had i better save up for sump'n
else and if so then what?


You have to try pretty hard to go wrong with a Pentax 50mm.

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Re: 50mm lenses and flare

[P. J. Alling]

That's not going to work on the M50 f1.7 or the FA 50 f1.4 without a 
step ring.  The filter he want's is the one that came with the M 85mm f2 
and M 100 f2.8.  I use that one regularly with my 43mm limited.  Be 
aware however the clips on that hood are made of  "Mouser Hair"®  I 
ended up destroying an old scratched up UV filter (HOYA by the way), and 
gluing it to the hood for the threads.


On 2/21/2010 3:06 PM, Cotty wrote:

On 21/2/10, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed:

   

I used a number of the 50mm lenses when I was shooting with Pentax
cameras: M50/1.4, A50/1.4, A50/1.7, F50/1.7, FA50/1.4 and A50/2.8
Macro. There's no substantive difference in the tendency to flare for
any of the 50/1.4s, and not much different to the 50/1.7s. A deep lens
hood is required for the DSLR bodies, much deeper than the original
equipment hood (you need a hood for about an 85mm lens).
 

Indeed. When I used the 50/1.2 on a 1.6x crop sensor camera, I found a
great Pentax lenshood that fit and worked a treat. Better: it was a clip
on - can't remember the model but you can see it here, and the eagle-
eyed will ID it:



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Re: 50mm lenses and flare

[P. J. Alling]

Prices are likely to go up, for some reason they're more expensive than 
the essentially identical FA 1.7 which is a lot rarer


On 2/21/2010 1:42 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 9:42 AM, eckinator  wrote:
   

Since we're on the topic already: how much would be a reasonable price
for the smc-F 50/1.7 in B condition?
TIA ecke
 

The last one I had was sold in 2006 for $135 or so, IIRC. It was in
EXC condition.

   



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Re: 50mm lenses and flare

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

That's the hood for the Pentax 85/1.8 and other similar models: it
works well. The B+W Tele hood also works well.

On Sunday, February 21, 2010, Cotty  wrote:
> On 21/2/10, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>>I used a number of the 50mm lenses when I was shooting with Pentax
>>cameras: M50/1.4, A50/1.4, A50/1.7, F50/1.7, FA50/1.4 and A50/2.8
>>Macro. There's no substantive difference in the tendency to flare for
>>any of the 50/1.4s, and not much different to the 50/1.7s. A deep lens
>>hood is required for the DSLR bodies, much deeper than the original
>>equipment hood (you need a hood for about an 85mm lens).
>
> Indeed. When I used the 50/1.2 on a 1.6x crop sensor camera, I found a
> great Pentax lenshood that fit and worked a treat. Better: it was a clip
> on - can't remember the model but you can see it here, and the eagle-
> eyed will ID it:
>
> 
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Re: 50mm lenses and flare

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Can't say what my "EXC" really means compared to your "B"... It's very
subjective.

The 50/1.7 is an excellent choice in 50s. It's sharper wide open than
the 1.4 model and handles close up work better. The lens formula is
the same from M to A to F. The As were cheapened with a plastic
aperture ring that occasionally fails but is very fixable. The f/1.4
models are only slightly faster and have slightly smoother bokeh, but
past f/2.8 it's hard to tell a difference; they are made a little
better, however. Stick with A or FA models in a 50/1.4, they share the
same optical formula and are superior performers to the earlier
models.

On Sunday, February 21, 2010, eckinator  wrote:
> 2010/2/21 Godfrey DiGiorgi :
>>
>> The last one I had was sold in 2006 for $135 or so, IIRC. It was in
>> EXC condition.
>
> ty godfrey =)
> eBay item 220556654576
> it is at € 99 now which is interestingly just those $135 but there is
> still some time to go so it will go a tad bit higher yet at least
> how does this condition, rated B by yours truly to your EXC please?
> seller claims fungus, haze and scratch free
>
> q...@all: is it generally an ok choice or had i better save up for sump'n
> else and if so then what?
>
> thanks again
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Re: 50mm lenses and flare

[eckinator]

perhaps the one that comes with the dfa 50?

2010/2/21 Cotty :
> On 21/2/10, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>>I used a number of the 50mm lenses when I was shooting with Pentax
>>cameras: M50/1.4, A50/1.4, A50/1.7, F50/1.7, FA50/1.4 and A50/2.8
>>Macro. There's no substantive difference in the tendency to flare for
>>any of the 50/1.4s, and not much different to the 50/1.7s. A deep lens
>>hood is required for the DSLR bodies, much deeper than the original
>>equipment hood (you need a hood for about an 85mm lens).
>
> Indeed. When I used the 50/1.2 on a 1.6x crop sensor camera, I found a
> great Pentax lenshood that fit and worked a treat. Better: it was a clip
> on - can't remember the model but you can see it here, and the eagle-
> eyed will ID it:
>
> 
>
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>
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>
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Re: 50mm lenses and flare

[Cotty]

On 21/2/10, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed:

>I used a number of the 50mm lenses when I was shooting with Pentax
>cameras: M50/1.4, A50/1.4, A50/1.7, F50/1.7, FA50/1.4 and A50/2.8
>Macro. There's no substantive difference in the tendency to flare for
>any of the 50/1.4s, and not much different to the 50/1.7s. A deep lens
>hood is required for the DSLR bodies, much deeper than the original
>equipment hood (you need a hood for about an 85mm lens).

Indeed. When I used the 50/1.2 on a 1.6x crop sensor camera, I found a
great Pentax lenshood that fit and worked a treat. Better: it was a clip
on - can't remember the model but you can see it here, and the eagle-
eyed will ID it:



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Re: 50mm lenses and flare

[Larry Colen]

On Feb 21, 2010, at 10:41 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:


Be sure you're using a good, deep lens hood.


That is one thing my 50s don't have.  Anybody have recommendations?


It's either that or arrange with the subjects that you can reposition
yourself and them such that these windows are not in the frame. That
may not be possible given the room.


It's certainly not possible during belt tests, but my senseis are now  
a lot more enthused about doing some "aikido portraits" with me, so  
I'll be able to bring my gear to the dojo and set things up to my best  
advantage for those.





On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 3:48 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
Our dojo is doing belt tests this week.  I was taking pictures this  
morning
and my p-fa 50/1.4 had lots of nasty flare from the light coming in  
through
the windows.  While the remaining tests will be in the evening, for  
future
reference would the M 50/1.7 or the supertakumar 50/1.4 be  
noticeably better

at reducing flare?

Since I needed to keep changing lenses to get the right focal  
length, I was
really wishing I had a 16-50.  I expect that for the evening tests,  
I'll

wish I had a 16-50 and a K-x.

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Re: 50mm lenses and flare

[eckinator]

2010/2/21 Godfrey DiGiorgi :
>
> The last one I had was sold in 2006 for $135 or so, IIRC. It was in
> EXC condition.

ty godfrey =)
eBay item 220556654576
it is at € 99 now which is interestingly just those $135 but there is
still some time to go so it will go a tad bit higher yet at least
how does this condition, rated B by yours truly to your EXC please?
seller claims fungus, haze and scratch free

q...@all: is it generally an ok choice or had i better save up for sump'n
else and if so then what?

thanks again
ecke

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Re: 50mm lenses and flare

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 9:42 AM, eckinator  wrote:
> Since we're on the topic already: how much would be a reasonable price
> for the smc-F 50/1.7 in B condition?
> TIA ecke

The last one I had was sold in 2006 for $135 or so, IIRC. It was in
EXC condition.

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Re: 50mm lenses and flare

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Be sure you're using a good, deep lens hood.

I used a number of the 50mm lenses when I was shooting with Pentax
cameras: M50/1.4, A50/1.4, A50/1.7, F50/1.7, FA50/1.4 and A50/2.8
Macro. There's no substantive difference in the tendency to flare for
any of the 50/1.4s, and not much different to the 50/1.7s. A deep lens
hood is required for the DSLR bodies, much deeper than the original
equipment hood (you need a hood for about an 85mm lens). The A50/2.8
has less tendency to flare as its front element is so deeply inset.

That said, there are always situations which will cause some flare.
Avoiding them is the only solution. What I'd do for the shooting
situations in the galleries you showed (nice work, btw) is to have
with me some heavy, white backdrop paper and cover those windows,
preferably from the outside if possible. That will reduce the light
coming through them enormously relative to your primary subject and be
a much more successful exposure situation.

It's either that or arrange with the subjects that you can reposition
yourself and them such that these windows are not in the frame. That
may not be possible given the room.

On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 3:48 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> Our dojo is doing belt tests this week.  I was taking pictures this morning
> and my p-fa 50/1.4 had lots of nasty flare from the light coming in through
> the windows.  While the remaining tests will be in the evening, for future
> reference would the M 50/1.7 or the supertakumar 50/1.4 be noticeably better
> at reducing flare?
>
> Since I needed to keep changing lenses to get the right focal length, I was
> really wishing I had a 16-50.  I expect that for the evening tests, I'll
> wish I had a 16-50 and a K-x.
>
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Re: 50mm lenses and flare

[eckinator]

Since we're on the topic already: how much would be a reasonable price
for the smc-F 50/1.7 in B condition?
TIA ecke

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Re: 50mm lenses and flare

[Bob Sullivan]

Larry,
Those are some pretty dynamic photos.
Good job!
Regards,  Bob S.

On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 5:13 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:
>
> On Feb 20, 2010, at 3:48 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
>
>> Our dojo is doing belt tests this week.  I was taking pictures this
>> morning and my p-fa 50/1.4 had lots of nasty flare from the light coming in
>> through the windows.  While the remaining tests will be in the evening, for
>> future reference would the M 50/1.7 or the supertakumar 50/1.4 be noticeably
>> better at reducing flare?
>>
>> Since I needed to keep changing lenses to get the right focal length, I
>> was really wishing I had a 16-50.  I expect that for the evening tests, I'll
>> wish I had a 16-50 and a K-x.
>
> For them that are interested, photos from today's belt tests (except TK's
> because I was a bit busy)
> white and blue:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157623351131397/
> Sylvia: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157623351298219/
> Nick: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157623478133602/
> The good news is that my keeper ratio seemed to improve throughout the day.
> Monday evening, however, I'll have to start all over with different light.
> At least it won't keep changing as the sun goes behind clouds and comes out,
> and I won't have the killer back lighting.
>
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Re: 50mm lenses and flare

[Larry Colen]

On Feb 20, 2010, at 3:48 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

Our dojo is doing belt tests this week.  I was taking pictures this  
morning and my p-fa 50/1.4 had lots of nasty flare from the light  
coming in through the windows.  While the remaining tests will be in  
the evening, for future reference would the M 50/1.7 or the  
supertakumar 50/1.4 be noticeably better at reducing flare?


Since I needed to keep changing lenses to get the right focal  
length, I was really wishing I had a 16-50.  I expect that for the  
evening tests, I'll wish I had a 16-50 and a K-x.


For them that are interested, photos from today's belt tests (except  
TK's because I was a bit busy)

white and blue: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157623351131397/
Sylvia: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157623351298219/
Nick: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157623478133602/
The good news is that my keeper ratio seemed to improve throughout the  
day.
Monday evening, however, I'll have to start all over with different  
light. At least it won't keep changing as the sun goes behind clouds  
and comes out, and I won't have the killer back lighting.


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Re: 50mm lenses and flare

[P. J. Alling]

Since the fa and the Super Takumar have pretty much identical optical 
formulas and the FA has much improved coatings I doubt that the Tak. 
will be better.  I always found the 50 f1.7 to be very good but in 
extreme situation you'll get flair with any lens.


On 2/20/2010 6:48 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
Our dojo is doing belt tests this week.  I was taking pictures this 
morning and my p-fa 50/1.4 had lots of nasty flare from the light 
coming in through the windows.  While the remaining tests will be in 
the evening, for future reference would the M 50/1.7 or the 
supertakumar 50/1.4 be noticeably better at reducing flare?


Since I needed to keep changing lenses to get the right focal length, 
I was really wishing I had a 16-50.  I expect that for the evening 
tests, I'll wish I had a 16-50 and a K-x.


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