Re: A reason to want the 150-450

[Jostein]

Snow is inevitable here.

Uphills are avoidable, fortunately.

Jostein

Den 14.12.2018 16:14, skrev Larry Colen:



Jostein wrote on 12/14/18 1:14 AM:

Interesting.

Come to think of it, I have frequently photographed the place in 
space where the Andromeda galaxy was two million years ago. :-)


And you've probably done it uphill, in the snow.




Jostein

Den 14.12.2018 00:49, skrev Dale H. Cook:

At 03:25 PM 12/13/2018, Alex Sarbu wrote:


I'm able to photograph the place where the concert was.
That reminds me of a NatGeo program about Area 51 (Groom Lake). When 
the Lockheed A-12 spy plane was in development for the CIA Radar 
Cross Section (RCS) testing was going on at the base. A mockup was 
mounted on a pylon for the tests. Because the Soviets already has 
some spy satellites and the CIA didn't want the Soviets to see the 
mockup they removed the it from the pylon when a Soviet satellite 
was due to pass overhead. At first the CIA didn't realize was that 
the Soviet satellites could do infrared imaging. The shadow of the 
mockup was cooler than the surrounding ground. The Soviets were able 
to discern the mockup's outline from the infrared image of the 
shadow. Once the CIA learned that the Soviets had an outline of the 
mockup they figured out how it was obtained and then instituted 
thermal counter measures.


The Soviet photographs showed the place where the mockup was.

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Re: A reason to want the 150-450

[Jostein]

Indeed.

And not to mention lifting that lens in Jupiter gravity.

Jostein

Den 14.12.2018 21:59, skrev l...@red4est.com:

He could probably do so from Jupiter, but a lens with a 500 km focal length 
might be out of his budget.

On December 14, 2018 11:13:55 AM PST, John  wrote:

I wonder how high up in the nosebleed seats you'd have to be so that
you're
enough light-years away from the stage to catch the singer still at the
microphone?

On 12/14/2018 04:14:25, Jostein wrote:

Interesting.

Come to think of it, I have frequently photographed the place in

space where the

Andromeda galaxy was two million years ago. :-)

Jostein

Den 14.12.2018 00:49, skrev Dale H. Cook:

At 03:25 PM 12/13/2018, Alex Sarbu wrote:


I'm able to photograph the place where the concert was.

That reminds me of a NatGeo program about Area 51 (Groom Lake). When

the

Lockheed A-12 spy plane was in development for the CIA Radar Cross

Section

(RCS) testing was going on at the base. A mockup was mounted on a

pylon for

the tests. Because the Soviets already has some spy satellites and

the CIA

didn't want the Soviets to see the mockup they removed the it from

the pylon

when a Soviet satellite was due to pass overhead. At first the CIA

didn't

realize was that the Soviet satellites could do infrared imaging.

The shadow

of the mockup was cooler than the surrounding ground. The Soviets

were able to

discern the mockup's outline from the infrared image of the shadow.

Once the

CIA learned that the Soviets had an outline of the mockup they

figured out how

it was obtained and then instituted thermal counter measures.

The Soviet photographs showed the place where the mockup was.

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Re: A reason to want the 150-450

[Jostein]

LOL!

Don't think distance would compensate for my slow reaction time though.

Jostein

Den 14.12.2018 20:13, skrev John:
I wonder how high up in the nosebleed seats you'd have to be so that 
you're enough light-years away from the stage to catch the singer 
still at the microphone?


On 12/14/2018 04:14:25, Jostein wrote:

Interesting.

Come to think of it, I have frequently photographed the place in 
space where the Andromeda galaxy was two million years ago. :-)


Jostein

Den 14.12.2018 00:49, skrev Dale H. Cook:

At 03:25 PM 12/13/2018, Alex Sarbu wrote:


I'm able to photograph the place where the concert was.
That reminds me of a NatGeo program about Area 51 (Groom Lake). When 
the Lockheed A-12 spy plane was in development for the CIA Radar 
Cross Section (RCS) testing was going on at the base. A mockup was 
mounted on a pylon for the tests. Because the Soviets already has 
some spy satellites and the CIA didn't want the Soviets to see the 
mockup they removed the it from the pylon when a Soviet satellite 
was due to pass overhead. At first the CIA didn't realize was that 
the Soviet satellites could do infrared imaging. The shadow of the 
mockup was cooler than the surrounding ground. The Soviets were able 
to discern the mockup's outline from the infrared image of the 
shadow. Once the CIA learned that the Soviets had an outline of the 
mockup they figured out how it was obtained and then instituted 
thermal counter measures.


The Soviet photographs showed the place where the mockup was.

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Re: A reason to want the 150-450

[lrc]

He could probably do so from Jupiter, but a lens with a 500 km focal length 
might be out of his budget.

On December 14, 2018 11:13:55 AM PST, John  wrote:
>I wonder how high up in the nosebleed seats you'd have to be so that
>you're 
>enough light-years away from the stage to catch the singer still at the
>microphone?
>
>On 12/14/2018 04:14:25, Jostein wrote:
>> Interesting.
>> 
>> Come to think of it, I have frequently photographed the place in
>space where the 
>> Andromeda galaxy was two million years ago. :-)
>> 
>> Jostein
>> 
>> Den 14.12.2018 00:49, skrev Dale H. Cook:
>>> At 03:25 PM 12/13/2018, Alex Sarbu wrote:
>>>
 I'm able to photograph the place where the concert was.
>>> That reminds me of a NatGeo program about Area 51 (Groom Lake). When
>the 
>>> Lockheed A-12 spy plane was in development for the CIA Radar Cross
>Section 
>>> (RCS) testing was going on at the base. A mockup was mounted on a
>pylon for 
>>> the tests. Because the Soviets already has some spy satellites and
>the CIA 
>>> didn't want the Soviets to see the mockup they removed the it from
>the pylon 
>>> when a Soviet satellite was due to pass overhead. At first the CIA
>didn't 
>>> realize was that the Soviet satellites could do infrared imaging.
>The shadow 
>>> of the mockup was cooler than the surrounding ground. The Soviets
>were able to 
>>> discern the mockup's outline from the infrared image of the shadow.
>Once the 
>>> CIA learned that the Soviets had an outline of the mockup they
>figured out how 
>>> it was obtained and then instituted thermal counter measures.
>>>
>>> The Soviet photographs showed the place where the mockup was.
>>>
>>> Dale H. Cook, many years as 35mm SLR photographer,
>>> now Pentax K-70 w/ Pentax-DA 18-270mm walking-
>>> around lens or SMC Pentax-A 50mm/f2 lens
>>>
>>>
>> 
>
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Re: A reason to want the 150-450

[John]

I wonder how high up in the nosebleed seats you'd have to be so that you're 
enough light-years away from the stage to catch the singer still at the microphone?


On 12/14/2018 04:14:25, Jostein wrote:

Interesting.

Come to think of it, I have frequently photographed the place in space where the 
Andromeda galaxy was two million years ago. :-)


Jostein

Den 14.12.2018 00:49, skrev Dale H. Cook:

At 03:25 PM 12/13/2018, Alex Sarbu wrote:


I'm able to photograph the place where the concert was.
That reminds me of a NatGeo program about Area 51 (Groom Lake). When the 
Lockheed A-12 spy plane was in development for the CIA Radar Cross Section 
(RCS) testing was going on at the base. A mockup was mounted on a pylon for 
the tests. Because the Soviets already has some spy satellites and the CIA 
didn't want the Soviets to see the mockup they removed the it from the pylon 
when a Soviet satellite was due to pass overhead. At first the CIA didn't 
realize was that the Soviet satellites could do infrared imaging. The shadow 
of the mockup was cooler than the surrounding ground. The Soviets were able to 
discern the mockup's outline from the infrared image of the shadow. Once the 
CIA learned that the Soviets had an outline of the mockup they figured out how 
it was obtained and then instituted thermal counter measures.


The Soviet photographs showed the place where the mockup was.

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Re: A reason to want the 150-450

[P. J. Alling]

On 12/14/2018 11:08 AM, Eric Weir wrote:



On Dec 12, 2018, at 11:07 PM, Alan C  wrote:

The local Green Wood Pigeons are very sensitive to human movement & will 
explode out of a tree at even as far as 30m. Amazingly, they are not fazed by cows 
or dogs.

Of course! It's the humans who dangerous.



Naa, they got that wrong, /everything/ is dangerous.



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Re: A reason to want the 150-450

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> On Dec 12, 2018, at 11:07 PM, Alan C  wrote:
> 
> The local Green Wood Pigeons are very sensitive to human movement & will 
> explode out of a tree at even as far as 30m. Amazingly, they are not fazed by 
> cows or dogs.

Of course! It's the humans who dangerous. 




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Re: A reason to want the 150-450

[Larry Colen]

Jostein wrote on 12/14/18 1:14 AM:

Interesting.

Come to think of it, I have frequently photographed the place in space 
where the Andromeda galaxy was two million years ago. :-)


And you've probably done it uphill, in the snow.




Jostein

Den 14.12.2018 00:49, skrev Dale H. Cook:

At 03:25 PM 12/13/2018, Alex Sarbu wrote:


I'm able to photograph the place where the concert was.
That reminds me of a NatGeo program about Area 51 (Groom Lake). When 
the Lockheed A-12 spy plane was in development for the CIA Radar Cross 
Section (RCS) testing was going on at the base. A mockup was mounted 
on a pylon for the tests. Because the Soviets already has some spy 
satellites and the CIA didn't want the Soviets to see the mockup they 
removed the it from the pylon when a Soviet satellite was due to pass 
overhead. At first the CIA didn't realize was that the Soviet 
satellites could do infrared imaging. The shadow of the mockup was 
cooler than the surrounding ground. The Soviets were able to discern 
the mockup's outline from the infrared image of the shadow. Once the 
CIA learned that the Soviets had an outline of the mockup they figured 
out how it was obtained and then instituted thermal counter measures.


The Soviet photographs showed the place where the mockup was.

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Re: A reason to want the 150-450

[Jostein]

Interesting.

Come to think of it, I have frequently photographed the place in space 
where the Andromeda galaxy was two million years ago. :-)


Jostein

Den 14.12.2018 00:49, skrev Dale H. Cook:

At 03:25 PM 12/13/2018, Alex Sarbu wrote:


I'm able to photograph the place where the concert was.

That reminds me of a NatGeo program about Area 51 (Groom Lake). When the 
Lockheed A-12 spy plane was in development for the CIA Radar Cross Section 
(RCS) testing was going on at the base. A mockup was mounted on a pylon for the 
tests. Because the Soviets already has some spy satellites and the CIA didn't 
want the Soviets to see the mockup they removed the it from the pylon when a 
Soviet satellite was due to pass overhead. At first the CIA didn't realize was 
that the Soviet satellites could do infrared imaging. The shadow of the mockup 
was cooler than the surrounding ground. The Soviets were able to discern the 
mockup's outline from the infrared image of the shadow. Once the CIA learned 
that the Soviets had an outline of the mockup they figured out how it was 
obtained and then instituted thermal counter measures.

The Soviet photographs showed the place where the mockup was.

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Re: A reason to want the 150-450

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At 03:25 PM 12/13/2018, Alex Sarbu wrote:

>I'm able to photograph the place where the concert was.

That reminds me of a NatGeo program about Area 51 (Groom Lake). When the 
Lockheed A-12 spy plane was in development for the CIA Radar Cross Section 
(RCS) testing was going on at the base. A mockup was mounted on a pylon for the 
tests. Because the Soviets already has some spy satellites and the CIA didn't 
want the Soviets to see the mockup they removed the it from the pylon when a 
Soviet satellite was due to pass overhead. At first the CIA didn't realize was 
that the Soviet satellites could do infrared imaging. The shadow of the mockup 
was cooler than the surrounding ground. The Soviets were able to discern the 
mockup's outline from the infrared image of the shadow. Once the CIA learned 
that the Soviets had an outline of the mockup they figured out how it was 
obtained and then instituted thermal counter measures.

The Soviet photographs showed the place where the mockup was.

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Re: A reason to want the 150-450

[Mark Roberts]

John wrote:

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFeNopYqthE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIV4poUZAQo


>On 12/12/2018 23:24:01, l...@red4est.com wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> On December 12, 2018 8:00:17 PM PST, Alan C  wrote:
>>> I think your hairstyle's the problem.
>> 
>> Not a bit, they think it's a shrubbery.
>> 
>>>
>>> Alan C
>>>
>>> On 12-Dec-18 11:53 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
 I went to a dance event in Portland last weekend and stayed at my
 friend Phil's house.  He has a bird feeder and I was able to get a
 clear view of it from his living room with the sliding glass door
 open. The noise of my bigma focusing would often scare the birds
>>> away,
 and a quieter focusing lens would definitely alleviate that problem.

 In other news, I'm getting pretty good at photographing the spot
>>> where
 a bird recently had been.

>>>
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Re: A reason to want the 150-450

[John]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFeNopYqthE

On 12/12/2018 23:24:01, l...@red4est.com wrote:



On December 12, 2018 8:00:17 PM PST, Alan C  wrote:

I think your hairstyle's the problem.


Not a bit, they think it's a shrubbery.



Alan C

On 12-Dec-18 11:53 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

I went to a dance event in Portland last weekend and stayed at my
friend Phil's house.  He has a bird feeder and I was able to get a
clear view of it from his living room with the sliding glass door
open. The noise of my bigma focusing would often scare the birds

away,

and a quieter focusing lens would definitely alleviate that problem.

In other news, I'm getting pretty good at photographing the spot

where

a bird recently had been.




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Re: A reason to want the 150-450

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I'm able to photograph the place where the concert was.

Alex
On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 3:25 PM Jostein  wrote:
>
> It could be worse, Larry.
>
> You could have excelled in photographing microphones where a singer has
> recently been.
>
> That's about my level of skill at concert photography.
>
> Jostein
>
> Den 13.12.2018 00:52, skrev Larry Colen:
> > It is only exceeded by my ability to take perfectly focused photos of
> > microphones in front of singers.
> >
> > P. J. Alling wrote on 12/12/18 3:32 PM:
> >> I think that's a skill we all share.
> >>
> >> On 12/12/2018 4:53 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
> >>> In other news, I'm getting pretty good at photographing the spot
> >>> where a bird recently had been.
> >>
> >
> >
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Re: A reason to want the 150-450

[Bill]

On 12/13/2018 12:02 PM, Ken Waller wrote:

Since when do you need a reason to get another lens?


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Re: A reason to want the 150-450

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Since when do you need a reason to get another lens?


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>
>I went to a dance event in Portland last weekend and stayed at my friend 
>Phil's house.  He has a bird feeder and I was able to get a clear view 
>of it from his living room with the sliding glass door open.  The noise 
>of my bigma focusing would often scare the birds away, and a quieter 
>focusing lens would definitely alleviate that problem.
>
>In other news, I'm getting pretty good at photographing the spot where a 
>bird recently had been.
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Re: A reason to want the 150-450

[Jostein]

It could be worse, Larry.

You could have excelled in photographing microphones where a singer has 
recently been.


That's about my level of skill at concert photography.

Jostein

Den 13.12.2018 00:52, skrev Larry Colen:
It is only exceeded by my ability to take perfectly focused photos of 
microphones in front of singers.


P. J. Alling wrote on 12/12/18 3:32 PM:

I think that's a skill we all share.

On 12/12/2018 4:53 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
In other news, I'm getting pretty good at photographing the spot 
where a bird recently had been. 







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Re: A reason to want the 150-450

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We are the knights who say Ni!  But not that shrubbery...

On 12/12/2018 11:24 PM, l...@red4est.com wrote:


On December 12, 2018 8:00:17 PM PST, Alan C  wrote:

I think your hairstyle's the problem.

Not a bit, they think it's a shrubbery.


Alan C

On 12-Dec-18 11:53 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

I went to a dance event in Portland last weekend and stayed at my
friend Phil's house.  He has a bird feeder and I was able to get a
clear view of it from his living room with the sliding glass door
open. The noise of my bigma focusing would often scare the birds

away,

and a quieter focusing lens would definitely alleviate that problem.

In other news, I'm getting pretty good at photographing the spot

where

a bird recently had been.



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Re: A reason to want the 150-450

[Alan C]

Flower Power?

Alan C

On 13-Dec-18 06:24 AM, l...@red4est.com wrote:


On December 12, 2018 8:00:17 PM PST, Alan C  wrote:

I think your hairstyle's the problem.

Not a bit, they think it's a shrubbery.


Alan C

On 12-Dec-18 11:53 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

I went to a dance event in Portland last weekend and stayed at my
friend Phil's house.  He has a bird feeder and I was able to get a
clear view of it from his living room with the sliding glass door
open. The noise of my bigma focusing would often scare the birds

away,

and a quieter focusing lens would definitely alleviate that problem.

In other news, I'm getting pretty good at photographing the spot

where

a bird recently had been.



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Re: A reason to want the 150-450

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On December 12, 2018 8:00:17 PM PST, Alan C  wrote:
>I think your hairstyle's the problem.

Not a bit, they think it's a shrubbery.

>
>Alan C
>
>On 12-Dec-18 11:53 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
>> I went to a dance event in Portland last weekend and stayed at my 
>> friend Phil's house.  He has a bird feeder and I was able to get a 
>> clear view of it from his living room with the sliding glass door 
>> open. The noise of my bigma focusing would often scare the birds
>away, 
>> and a quieter focusing lens would definitely alleviate that problem.
>>
>> In other news, I'm getting pretty good at photographing the spot
>where 
>> a bird recently had been.
>>
>
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Re: A reason to want the 150-450

[Alan C]

The local Green Wood Pigeons are very sensitive to human movement & will 
explode out of a tree at even as far as 30m. Amazingly, they are not 
fazed by cows or dogs.


Alan C

On 13-Dec-18 03:47 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

I’ve found that my birds are most disturbed by sudden movements and are more 
tolerant of noise. I try to be  positioned with my hands on the camera when 
waiting for a bird shot. When the bird alights on a branch I slowly swing the 
ball head mounted camera into position.

Paul


On Dec 12, 2018, at 7:51 PM, Subash Jeyan  wrote:

On Wed, 12 Dec 2018 13:53:20 -0800
Larry Colen  wrote:


I went to a dance event in Portland last weekend and stayed at my
friend Phil's house.  He has a bird feeder and I was able to get a
clear view of it from his living room with the sliding glass door
open.  The noise of my bigma focusing would often scare the birds
away, and a quieter focusing lens would definitely alleviate that
problem.

that's a real problem with the the 55-300 too.


In other news, I'm getting pretty good at photographing the spot
where a bird recently had been.



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Re: A reason to want the 150-450

[Alan C]

I think your hairstyle's the problem.

Alan C

On 12-Dec-18 11:53 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
I went to a dance event in Portland last weekend and stayed at my 
friend Phil's house.  He has a bird feeder and I was able to get a 
clear view of it from his living room with the sliding glass door 
open. The noise of my bigma focusing would often scare the birds away, 
and a quieter focusing lens would definitely alleviate that problem.


In other news, I'm getting pretty good at photographing the spot where 
a bird recently had been.





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Re: A reason to want the 150-450

[John]

Reason? We don't need no steenkin' reason.

This is PDML. You want what you want because you want it. That's all the 
"reason" you need.



On 12/12/2018 16:53:20, Larry Colen wrote:
I went to a dance event in Portland last weekend and stayed at my friend Phil's 
house.  He has a bird feeder and I was able to get a clear view of it from his 
living room with the sliding glass door open.  The noise of my bigma focusing 
would often scare the birds away, and a quieter focusing lens would definitely 
alleviate that problem.


In other news, I'm getting pretty good at photographing the spot where a bird 
recently had been.





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Re: A reason to want the 150-450

[Paul Stenquist]

I’ve found that my birds are most disturbed by sudden movements and are more 
tolerant of noise. I try to be positioned with my hands on the camera when 
waiting for a bird shot. When the bird alights on a branch I slowly swing the 
ball head mounted camera into position.

Paul

> On Dec 12, 2018, at 7:51 PM, Subash Jeyan  wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 12 Dec 2018 13:53:20 -0800
> Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
>> I went to a dance event in Portland last weekend and stayed at my
>> friend Phil's house.  He has a bird feeder and I was able to get a
>> clear view of it from his living room with the sliding glass door
>> open.  The noise of my bigma focusing would often scare the birds
>> away, and a quieter focusing lens would definitely alleviate that
>> problem.
> 
> that's a real problem with the the 55-300 too. 
> 
>> In other news, I'm getting pretty good at photographing the spot
>> where a bird recently had been.
> 
> 
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Re: A reason to want the 150-450

[Subash Jeyan]

On Wed, 12 Dec 2018 13:53:20 -0800
Larry Colen  wrote:

> I went to a dance event in Portland last weekend and stayed at my
> friend Phil's house.  He has a bird feeder and I was able to get a
> clear view of it from his living room with the sliding glass door
> open.  The noise of my bigma focusing would often scare the birds
> away, and a quieter focusing lens would definitely alleviate that
> problem.

that's a real problem with the the 55-300 too. 

> In other news, I'm getting pretty good at photographing the spot
> where a bird recently had been.



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Re: A reason to want the 150-450

[Larry Colen]

It is only exceeded by my ability to take perfectly focused photos of 
microphones in front of singers.


P. J. Alling wrote on 12/12/18 3:32 PM:

I think that's a skill we all share.

On 12/12/2018 4:53 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
In other news, I'm getting pretty good at photographing the spot where 
a bird recently had been. 





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Re: A reason to want the 150-450

[P. J. Alling]

I think that's a skill we all share.

On 12/12/2018 4:53 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
In other news, I'm getting pretty good at photographing the spot where 
a bird recently had been. 


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Re: A reason to want the 150-450

[Daniel J. Matyola]

MARK!

Dan Matyola
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On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 4:54 PM Larry Colen  wrote:


>  I'm getting pretty good at photographing the spot where a
> bird recently had been.
>
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