Re: And an annual happy birthday to everyone

[ann sanfedele]

Oh right Dan, take me out of context!  LOL

ann


On 12/26/2016 5:09 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

On Mon, Dec 26, 2016 at 5:06 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:


ONE from over 50 years (well 50 years in my caseanyway)


It must be a burden to have so many great images!  
Not a problem about which I must be concerned.

Dan Matyola
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Re: And an annual happy birthday to everyone

[Daniel J. Matyola]

On Mon, Dec 26, 2016 at 5:06 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:

> ONE from over 50 years (well 50 years in my caseanyway)
>

It must be a burden to have so many great images!  
Not a problem about which I must be concerned.

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Re: And an annual happy birthday to everyone

[ann sanfedele]

but but...BRuce,  you only have to pick THREE from the past year... not 
ONE from over 50 years (well 50 years in my caseanyway)


so not quite so hard!

ann the elder


On 12/24/2016 1:40 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

On Fri, Dec 23, 2016 at 11:11 PM, Mark Roberts
 wrote:

Still, we're planning on doing another Photo Annual for 2017. Start
getting your best images ready.

Oh no! There's that elusive "best image" idea again, only multiplied. :)

Mark, are you soliciting descriptive text again this year?




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Re: And an annual happy birthday to everyone

[Mark Roberts]

On Sat, 24 Dec 2016 13:40:26 -0500, you wrote:

>On Fri, Dec 23, 2016 at 11:11 PM, Mark Roberts
> wrote:
>>
>> Still, we're planning on doing another Photo Annual for 2017. Start
>> getting your best images ready.
>
>Oh no! There's that elusive "best image" idea again, only multiplied. :)
>
>Mark, are you soliciting descriptive text again this year?

Definitely. I've found people really enjoy reading about photographs
that interest them.

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Re: And an annual happy birthday to everyone

[Ken Waller]

I've learned a lot about photography from this group, and made some very 
good friends.


Yo MARK ! sounds like an apt seasonal MARK !

Kenneth Waller
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From: "Bob W-PDML" <p...@web-options.com>

Subject: Re: And an annual happy birthday to everyone


I joined in '97 I think, after my LX had failed me in Ethiopia (but backed 
up by a MX and a Super-A) and I wanted to know what was going on. I've 
learned a lot about photography from this group, and made some very good 
friends.


I haven't aged at all.

Joyeuses f?tes!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mystical_Nativity#/media/File%3AMystic_Nativity%2C_Sandro_Botticelli.jpg

B

On 24 Dec 2016, at 15:21, Rick Womer 
<rickpic...@gmail.com<mailto:rickpic...@gmail.com>> wrote:


I enjoyed looking through the PUG archive, too. The earliest entry of
mine I could find was February 2005.

I bought my first Pentax (a Super Program) when our daughter was a
year old, in 1989. I found the PDML shortly after, and participated
via my CompuServe email. Then there was a hiatus of several years.
Mark!'s partner Lisa and I know each other through work for the
Children's Oncology Group, and after a meeting (in Hilton Head?
Atlanta? Someplace southern) she introduced me to Mark!. He gave me
the current PDML info, and I rejoined; I think that was in the late
1990s. I was younger then, too.

Happy holidays, one and all.

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Re: And an annual happy birthday to everyone

[Bob W-PDML]

On 24 Dec 2016, at 19:45, Bill  wrote:
> 
>> On 12/24/2016 12:40 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:
>> On Fri, Dec 23, 2016 at 11:11 PM, Mark Roberts
>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Still, we're planning on doing another Photo Annual for 2017. Start
>>> getting your best images ready.
>> 
>> Oh no! There's that elusive "best image" idea again, only multiplied. :)
>> 
>> Mark, are you soliciting descriptive text again this year?
>> 
> 
> Most of your work is best limited to descriptive text to maintain family 
> friendliness. :)

I thought he was offering Mark to talk dirty to him.



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Re: And an annual happy birthday to everyone

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On 12/24/2016 12:40 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

On Fri, Dec 23, 2016 at 11:11 PM, Mark Roberts
 wrote:


Still, we're planning on doing another Photo Annual for 2017. Start
getting your best images ready.


Oh no! There's that elusive "best image" idea again, only multiplied. :)

Mark, are you soliciting descriptive text again this year?



Most of your work is best limited to descriptive text to maintain family 
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Re: And an annual happy birthday to everyone

[Bruce Walker]

Looks like my posts to the list itself began in early May 2008, though
I know I lurked for quite a while before that.

And apparently my first PUG entry wasn't until Jan 2009:

  http://pug.komkon.org/09jan/slides/IMGP3138.html

But I was on time to make it into the first PDML Annual, with that
same shot. And I've been in all subsequent ones.


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> Since people stay around here a long time I started to wonder ...
> Who is the youngest member here? And who is the senior member?
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Re: And an annual happy birthday to everyone

[Bruce Walker]

On Fri, Dec 23, 2016 at 11:11 PM, Mark Roberts
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>
> Still, we're planning on doing another Photo Annual for 2017. Start
> getting your best images ready.

Oh no! There's that elusive "best image" idea again, only multiplied. :)

Mark, are you soliciting descriptive text again this year?

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Re: And an annual happy birthday to everyone

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> On 24 December 2016 at 16:03 Bob W-PDML  wrote:
> 
> 
> I joined in '97 I think, after my LX had failed me in Ethiopia (but backed up
> by a MX and a Super-A) and I wanted to know what was going on. I've learned a
> lot about photography from this group, and made some very good friends.
> 
> I haven't aged at all.
> 
> Joyeuses f?tes!
> 
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mystical_Nativity#/media/File%3AMystic_Nativity%2C_Sandro_Botticelli.jpg

I think you were earlier than that.  I joined shortly after obtaining an ME
Super, in 1995/6, and you were here then.

Here's the modern nativity.
https://youtu.be/H965m0Hkk5M

And a sincere message from the frostpit.
https://youtu.be/fQZIXL5Y8GA
(You'll [pardon me] need to enable English subtitles to get the full message, if
not a native speaker)

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Re: And an annual happy birthday to everyone

[Bob W-PDML]

I joined in '97 I think, after my LX had failed me in Ethiopia (but backed up 
by a MX and a Super-A) and I wanted to know what was going on. I've learned a 
lot about photography from this group, and made some very good friends.

I haven't aged at all.

Joyeuses f?tes!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mystical_Nativity#/media/File%3AMystic_Nativity%2C_Sandro_Botticelli.jpg

B

On 24 Dec 2016, at 15:21, Rick Womer 
> wrote:

I enjoyed looking through the PUG archive, too. The earliest entry of
mine I could find was February 2005.

I bought my first Pentax (a Super Program) when our daughter was a
year old, in 1989. I found the PDML shortly after, and participated
via my CompuServe email. Then there was a hiatus of several years.
Mark!'s partner Lisa and I know each other through work for the
Children's Oncology Group, and after a meeting (in Hilton Head?
Atlanta? Someplace southern) she introduced me to Mark!. He gave me
the current PDML info, and I rejoined; I think that was in the late
1990s. I was younger then, too.

Happy holidays, one and all.

Rick
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[Rick Womer]

I enjoyed looking through the PUG archive, too. The earliest entry of
mine I could find was February 2005.

I bought my first Pentax (a Super Program) when our daughter was a
year old, in 1989. I found the PDML shortly after, and participated
via my CompuServe email. Then there was a hiatus of several years.
Mark!'s partner Lisa and I know each other through work for the
Children's Oncology Group, and after a meeting (in Hilton Head?
Atlanta? Someplace southern) she introduced me to Mark!. He gave me
the current PDML info, and I rejoined; I think that was in the late
1990s. I was younger then, too.

Happy holidays, one and all.

Rick
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> The earliest PUG entry I find is my March, 2000 pic of a Hawaiian waterfall, 
> clumsily composed. I had recently joined the PDML to learn more about the M42 
> cameras and my beloved Spotmatics. I thought I had an earlier entry -- a shot 
> of a woman on Canal Street called "Plastic Land," but I can't find it.
>
> Paul via phone
>
>> On Dec 23, 2016, at 8:38 PM, Brian Walters  wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, Dec 24, 2016, at 10:52 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote:
>>> On 24/12/16, Brian Walters, discombobulated, unleashed:
>>>
 If anyone wants to spend a bit of ideal time during the holidays, you
 can spend an hour or so perusing the old galleries,  You'll find the
 complete PUG here, all the way back to April 1997:

 http://pug.komkon.org/general/pastgalleries.html
>>>
>>> Cool - thanks for posting - had a look at the first few years. My first
>>> pic was in February of 2001 but pretty sure I found the list and started
>>> lurking late 1998. I was looking for info on re-celling a Pentax LX
>>> motor drive and dear Rob Studdert pointed me to one of his web pages
>>> detailing just such info.
>>>
>>
>>
>> That, of course, should have been 'idle time' in my post
>>
>> As near as I can tell my first PUG submission was a pretty poor effort
>> for 'Opposites' in November 2007.
>>
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Brian
>>
>> ++
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The earliest PUG entry I find is my March, 2000 pic of a Hawaiian waterfall, 
clumsily composed. I had recently joined the PDML to learn more about the M42 
cameras and my beloved Spotmatics. I thought I had an earlier entry -- a shot 
of a woman on Canal Street called "Plastic Land," but I can't find it. 

Paul via phone

> On Dec 23, 2016, at 8:38 PM, Brian Walters  wrote:
> 
>> On Sat, Dec 24, 2016, at 10:52 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote:
>> On 24/12/16, Brian Walters, discombobulated, unleashed:
>> 
>>> If anyone wants to spend a bit of ideal time during the holidays, you
>>> can spend an hour or so perusing the old galleries,  You'll find the
>>> complete PUG here, all the way back to April 1997:
>>> 
>>> http://pug.komkon.org/general/pastgalleries.html
>> 
>> Cool - thanks for posting - had a look at the first few years. My first
>> pic was in February of 2001 but pretty sure I found the list and started
>> lurking late 1998. I was looking for info on re-celling a Pentax LX
>> motor drive and dear Rob Studdert pointed me to one of his web pages
>> detailing just such info.
>> 
> 
> 
> That, of course, should have been 'idle time' in my post
> 
> As near as I can tell my first PUG submission was a pretty poor effort
> for 'Opposites' in November 2007.
> 
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Brian
> 
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Re: And an annual happy birthday to everyone

[Steve Cottrell]

On 23/12/16, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:

>height of the transition between film and digital
>(probably beginning with the Canon D30, which appeared in late
>200/early 2001,

I lusted after one but waited for the D60 which doubled the MP count to
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Re: And an annual happy birthday to everyone

[Mark Roberts]

On Fri, 23 Dec 2016 23:52:32 +, you wrote:

>On 24/12/16, Brian Walters, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>>If anyone wants to spend a bit of ideal time during the holidays, you
>>can spend an hour or so perusing the old galleries,  You'll find the
>>complete PUG here, all the way back to April 1997:
>>
>>http://pug.komkon.org/general/pastgalleries.html
>
>Cool - thanks for posting - had a look at the first few years. My first
>pic was in February of 2001 but pretty sure I found the list and started
>lurking late 1998. I was looking for info on re-celling a Pentax LX
>motor drive and dear Rob Studdert pointed me to one of his web pages
>detailing just such info.

The PUG archive is a fascinating tour through the past. What's
interesting about the web is how it's a continually updated time
capsule that one can consult any time. It's particularly fascinating
to be able to go through the era during which photography made the
transition from film to digital. When the PUG began in 1997 serious
photography, even at the most basic amateur level, was a strictly
analogue endeavour; digital cameras of the time were toys with
hopelessly limited resolution and dynamic range. Look at those early
galleries, made at a time when 400 x 600 pixels was a large online
image (when the standard monitor had 600 x 800 resolution).

I seriously hope there are good back-ups of the entire PUG kept
because it's the kind of thing that will be of inestimable value to
historians of future generations.

...and on that note I'd like to add that the PDML Photo Annual has
similar value. I do wish we'd started it a few years earlier, so as to
capture the height of the transition between film and digital
(probably beginning with the Canon D30, which appeared in late
200/early 2001, and being "stick a fork in it" done by 2003 with the
Pentax ist-D". But I doubt the print-on-demand publishing industry was
quite up to speed at that time either.

Still, we're planning on doing another Photo Annual for 2017. Start
getting your best images ready.

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Re: And an annual happy birthday to everyone

[Brian Walters]

On Sat, Dec 24, 2016, at 12:40 PM, ann sanfedele wrote:
> I love spellcheck sometimes... it made such a nice sentiment out of 
> Brian's line...
> 

:-)>


Cheers

Brian

++
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> 
> On 12/23/2016 3:28 PM, Brian Walters wrote:
> > ..
> > If anyone wants to spend a bit of ideal time during the holidays
> 
> ann
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Re: And an annual happy birthday to everyone

[ann sanfedele]

I love spellcheck sometimes... it made such a nice sentiment out of 
Brian's line...



On 12/23/2016 3:28 PM, Brian Walters wrote:

..
If anyone wants to spend a bit of ideal time during the holidays


ann

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On Sat, Dec 24, 2016, at 10:52 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote:
> On 24/12/16, Brian Walters, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
> >If anyone wants to spend a bit of ideal time during the holidays, you
> >can spend an hour or so perusing the old galleries,  You'll find the
> >complete PUG here, all the way back to April 1997:
> >
> >http://pug.komkon.org/general/pastgalleries.html
> 
> Cool - thanks for posting - had a look at the first few years. My first
> pic was in February of 2001 but pretty sure I found the list and started
> lurking late 1998. I was looking for info on re-celling a Pentax LX
> motor drive and dear Rob Studdert pointed me to one of his web pages
> detailing just such info.
> 


That, of course, should have been 'idle time' in my post

As near as I can tell my first PUG submission was a pretty poor effort
for 'Opposites' in November 2007.


Cheers

Brian

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On 24/12/16, Brian Walters, discombobulated, unleashed:

>If anyone wants to spend a bit of ideal time during the holidays, you
>can spend an hour or so perusing the old galleries,  You'll find the
>complete PUG here, all the way back to April 1997:
>
>http://pug.komkon.org/general/pastgalleries.html

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pic was in February of 2001 but pretty sure I found the list and started
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On Sat, Dec 24, 2016, at 06:05 AM, Doug Brewer wrote:
> The first PUG was indeed revealed on April 1, 1997, on some of my 
> personal server space, later transferred to the komkon server. It was 
> just a few photos and each page was coded separately using my clunky 
> HTML skills. In fact, for quite some time each gallery had to be coded, 
> which explains the long gaps between some of them, leading to some 
> grumblings in the ranks, which came to a head when I was in Little Rock, 
> Arkansas, prepping for my mother's funeral in January of 1999. It was 
> determined that I had my time priorities out of whack and I was booted 
> from my post as first PUGmaster.
> 
> All this was before I took over The List from Pentax, which happened 
> during the Christmas/New Year transition from 2000 to 2001.


That's a bit of interesting PUG history - thanks, Doug.

If anyone wants to spend a bit of ideal time during the holidays, you
can spend an hour or so perusing the old galleries,  You'll find the
complete PUG here, all the way back to April 1997:

http://pug.komkon.org/general/pastgalleries.html


Cheers

Brian

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> 
> On 12/20/16 2:40 PM, mike wilson wrote:
> >> On 20 December 2016 at 19:08 "Daniel J. Matyola"  
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> I just checked back and find that the first PUG I entered was in April
> >> 2000.  I know that it took me a few months to figure out how to scan my
> >> prints for submission to the PUD, so I must have joined some time in early
> >> 2000.
> >>
> >> As far as I can determine, Doug Brewer is the only member still around who
> >> posted an image to the first PUG, in April 1997:
> >>
> >> http://pug.komkon.org/archive/aprarchive.html
> >
> > I think that may be the first PUG off the Pentax server. It's about (maybe 
> > six
> > months after, if my increasingly fallible memory is to be trusted) when we 
> > were
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Re: And an annual happy birthday to everyone

[John]

Yeah, I understand all that part. It's the technical details that
continue to elude me.

Most of the social media I don't use really doesn't work very well
unless you have a smart phone. I don't have one & I don't see that I
need one. That might change, but not today.

My latest cell phone has a camera. Verizon gave it to me "free" and cut
the price of my service plan to get me to give up my old cell phone.

I've taken a picture with it. I don't have internet or texting or all
that other smart phone stuff on my phone. It's just a basic flip-phone I
have so I can make telephone calls.

It took me almost an hour on the phone with Verizon's help desk to get
the photo from the phone to my desktop (email inbox). I could have
solved the problem more quickly by just going home & getting a camera,
then coming back to the location & duplicating the photograph (static
subject).

The there's facebook. I don't have facebook because I have a bad
attitude. When it first came out, I was bombarded by people telling me I
*HAD TO HAVE* facebook, which pushed one of my hot-buttons. I get
stubborn. I *DO NOT* have to have facebook, and I won't.

You can't make me, so I ain't gonna'!

Plus, I can hardly make heads or tails of Google+, so why would I want
another one I can't figure out.

I understand email & I understand Flickr. I'm good.


On 12/23/2016 1:07 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:

Social platforms are easy to understand, you post images and messages to
your friends, and the platform offers you a "free" location.  The
platform takes any information you post and monetizes it for it's
benefit and makes oodles of money, and maybe retains all rights to your
content.  It's an easy to understand concept.  You get a "free" service,
they use it to sell you things and sell actually sell the online you to
the highest bidder.  It's a win-win for them.


On 12/23/2016 12:35 PM, John wrote:

On 12/23/2016 10:04 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:

On 12/23/2016 9:50 AM, postmaster wrote:

On 12/22/2016 9:20 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 8:52 PM, Paul Stenquist 
wrote:


Paul via phone


On Dec 22, 2016, at 8:29 PM, Gonz  wrote:

The average age of PDML members is definitely going up. Where is the
new blood!??


Taking pics with their phones.


And not using email, which most of them have never heard of. And if
they have, they can't get past the text-only requirement.

The PDML has a pretty robust geezers-only firewall in place.


I thought Doug removed the plain-text-only requirement


If this comes through then Doug did indeed remove the plain text filter.



But you still can't post images & messages together like you can with
twitter or facebook or whatever the latest social media platform I don't
understand is.







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Re: And an annual happy birthday to everyone

[John]

Someone's comment prompted me to try to take a look at all of the PUGs
from the beginning.

A couple of things have come to my attention so far ...

Some familiar names, but a lot of names that have passed by the wayside
by the time I got here. I wonder what happened to them.

I'm too critical of my own photography. It may be crap, but that
shouldn't stop me from posting it.


On 12/23/2016 2:05 PM, Doug Brewer wrote:

The first PUG was indeed revealed on April 1, 1997, on some of my
personal server space, later transferred to the komkon server. It was
just a few photos and each page was coded separately using my clunky
HTML skills. In fact, for quite some time each gallery had to be coded,
which explains the long gaps between some of them, leading to some
grumblings in the ranks, which came to a head when I was in Little Rock,
Arkansas, prepping for my mother's funeral in January of 1999. It was
determined that I had my time priorities out of whack and I was booted
from my post as first PUGmaster.

All this was before I took over The List from Pentax, which happened
during the Christmas/New Year transition from 2000 to 2001.

On 12/20/16 2:40 PM, mike wilson wrote:

On 20 December 2016 at 19:08 "Daniel J. Matyola"
 wrote:


I just checked back and find that the first PUG I entered was in April
2000.  I know that it took me a few months to figure out how to scan my
prints for submission to the PUD, so I must have joined some time in
early
2000.

As far as I can determine, Doug Brewer is the only member still
around who
posted an image to the first PUG, in April 1997:

http://pug.komkon.org/archive/aprarchive.html


I think that may be the first PUG off the Pentax server. It's about
(maybe six
months after, if my increasingly fallible memory is to be trusted)
when we were
booted off.





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Re: And an annual happy birthday to everyone

[Doug Brewer]

The first PUG was indeed revealed on April 1, 1997, on some of my 
personal server space, later transferred to the komkon server. It was 
just a few photos and each page was coded separately using my clunky 
HTML skills. In fact, for quite some time each gallery had to be coded, 
which explains the long gaps between some of them, leading to some 
grumblings in the ranks, which came to a head when I was in Little Rock, 
Arkansas, prepping for my mother's funeral in January of 1999. It was 
determined that I had my time priorities out of whack and I was booted 
from my post as first PUGmaster.


All this was before I took over The List from Pentax, which happened 
during the Christmas/New Year transition from 2000 to 2001.


On 12/20/16 2:40 PM, mike wilson wrote:

On 20 December 2016 at 19:08 "Daniel J. Matyola"  wrote:


I just checked back and find that the first PUG I entered was in April
2000.  I know that it took me a few months to figure out how to scan my
prints for submission to the PUD, so I must have joined some time in early
2000.

As far as I can determine, Doug Brewer is the only member still around who
posted an image to the first PUG, in April 1997:

http://pug.komkon.org/archive/aprarchive.html


I think that may be the first PUG off the Pentax server. It's about (maybe six
months after, if my increasingly fallible memory is to be trusted) when we were
booted off.



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Re: And an annual happy birthday to everyone

[P. J. Alling]

Social platforms are easy to understand, you post images and messages to 
your friends, and the platform offers you a "free" location.  The 
platform takes any information you post and monetizes it for it's 
benefit and makes oodles of money, and maybe retains all rights to your 
content.  It's an easy to understand concept.  You get a "free" service, 
they use it to sell you things and sell actually sell the online you to 
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On 12/23/2016 12:35 PM, John wrote:

On 12/23/2016 10:04 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:

On 12/23/2016 9:50 AM, postmaster wrote:

On 12/22/2016 9:20 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 8:52 PM, Paul Stenquist 
wrote:


Paul via phone


On Dec 22, 2016, at 8:29 PM, Gonz  wrote:

The average age of PDML members is definitely going up. Where is the
new blood!??


Taking pics with their phones.


And not using email, which most of them have never heard of. And if
they have, they can't get past the text-only requirement.

The PDML has a pretty robust geezers-only firewall in place.


I thought Doug removed the plain-text-only requirement


If this comes through then Doug did indeed remove the plain text filter.



But you still can't post images & messages together like you can with
twitter or facebook or whatever the latest social media platform I don't
understand is.





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On 12/23/2016 10:04 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:

On 12/23/2016 9:50 AM, postmaster wrote:

On 12/22/2016 9:20 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 8:52 PM, Paul Stenquist 
wrote:


Paul via phone


On Dec 22, 2016, at 8:29 PM, Gonz  wrote:

The average age of PDML members is definitely going up. Where is the
new blood!??


Taking pics with their phones.


And not using email, which most of them have never heard of. And if
they have, they can't get past the text-only requirement.

The PDML has a pretty robust geezers-only firewall in place.


I thought Doug removed the plain-text-only requirement


If this comes through then Doug did indeed remove the plain text filter.



But you still can't post images & messages together like you can with
twitter or facebook or whatever the latest social media platform I don't
understand is.


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Re: And an annual happy birthday to everyone

[John]

They're all using iPhones and when they finally get ready for a serious
camera they're captured by canikon or they get something 4/3.

On 12/22/2016 8:29 PM, Gonz wrote:

The average age of PDML members is definitely going up.  Where is the
new blood!??


On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 2:51 PM, Brian Walters  wrote:



On Wed, Dec 21, 2016, at 07:43 AM, Jostein wrote:

My first is also in June -98. The URL in the gallery is wrong though. :-)



Not any more  :-)>



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link in gallery: http://pug.komkon.org/jun98/jun7.htm
link should be:  http://pug.komkon.org/98jun/jun7.htm

A different version of that shot was also the first image I got into the
Premiere collection at the PPG, more than a decade later.

Jostein

Den 20.12.2016 21.06, skrev John Francis:

On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 02:08:41PM -0500, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

I just checked back and find that the first PUG I entered was in April
2000.  I know that it took me a few months to figure out how to scan my
prints for submission to the PUD, so I must have joined some time in early
2000.

As far as I can determine, Doug Brewer is the only member still around who
posted an image to the first PUG, in April 1997:

http://pug.komkon.org/archive/aprarchive.html


The first one of mine I can find is from June 1998

  http://pug.komkon.org/98jun/jun18.htm




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Re: And an annual happy birthday to everyone

[Bruce Walker]

On Fri, Dec 23, 2016 at 9:50 AM, postmaster  wrote:
> On 12/22/2016 9:20 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 8:52 PM, Paul Stenquist 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Paul via phone
>>>
 On Dec 22, 2016, at 8:29 PM, Gonz  wrote:

 The average age of PDML members is definitely going up.  Where is the
 new blood!??

>>> Taking pics with their phones.
>>
>>
>> And not using email, which most of them have never heard of. And if
>> they have, they can't get past the text-only requirement.
>>
>> The PDML has a pretty robust geezers-only firewall in place.
>
>
> I thought Doug removed the plain-text-only requirement?

Indeed. My worn out geezer-brain misplaced that fact.

(But I just found out I can still use vi to edit /etc/rc.conf so some
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[ann sanfedele]

Well now I know my plain text filter is working...
ann

On 12/23/2016 10:04 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:

 


I thought Doug removed the plain-text-only requirement 

If this comes through then Doug did indeed remove the plain text filter.




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On 12/23/2016 9:50 AM, postmaster wrote:

On 12/22/2016 9:20 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:
On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 8:52 PM, Paul Stenquist  
wrote:


Paul via phone


On Dec 22, 2016, at 8:29 PM, Gonz  wrote:

The average age of PDML members is definitely going up. Where is the
new blood!??


Taking pics with their phones.


And not using email, which most of them have never heard of. And if
they have, they can't get past the text-only requirement.

The PDML has a pretty robust geezers-only firewall in place.


I thought Doug removed the plain-text-only requirement 


If this comes through then Doug did indeed remove the plain text filter.

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On 12/22/2016 9:20 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 8:52 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:


Paul via phone


On Dec 22, 2016, at 8:29 PM, Gonz  wrote:

The average age of PDML members is definitely going up.  Where is the
new blood!??


Taking pics with their phones.


And not using email, which most of them have never heard of. And if
they have, they can't get past the text-only requirement.

The PDML has a pretty robust geezers-only firewall in place.


I thought Doug removed the plain-text-only requirement?



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Re: And an annual happy birthday to everyone

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Great image, and quite fitting.


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On Fri, Dec 23, 2016 at 4:57 AM, Bob W-PDML  wrote:

> On 23 Dec 2016, at 09:01, Steve Cottrell  t...@seeingeye.tv>> wrote:
>
> On 22/12/16, Bruce Walker, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
> The PDML has a pretty robust geezers-only firewall in place.
>
> haha brilliantly put, geezer ;-)
>
> Here we all are:
> https://combustus.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/old-man-
> spain-sevilla-1988-fabio-sgroi.jpg
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> The ladies are probably all in kitchen, baking something.
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On 23 Dec 2016, at 09:01, Steve Cottrell 
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On 22/12/16, Bruce Walker, discombobulated, unleashed:

The PDML has a pretty robust geezers-only firewall in place.

haha brilliantly put, geezer ;-)

Here we all are:
https://combustus.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/old-man-spain-sevilla-1988-fabio-sgroi.jpg

The ladies are probably all in kitchen, baking something.

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On 22/12/16, Bruce Walker, discombobulated, unleashed:

>The PDML has a pretty robust geezers-only firewall in place.

haha brilliantly put, geezer ;-)

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[P. J. Alling]

I think it's been spilled on the floor...


On 12/22/2016 8:29 PM, Gonz wrote:

The average age of PDML members is definitely going up.  Where is the
new blood!??


On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 2:51 PM, Brian Walters  wrote:


On Wed, Dec 21, 2016, at 07:43 AM, Jostein wrote:

My first is also in June -98. The URL in the gallery is wrong though. :-)


Not any more  :-)>



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link in gallery: http://pug.komkon.org/jun98/jun7.htm
link should be:  http://pug.komkon.org/98jun/jun7.htm

A different version of that shot was also the first image I got into the
Premiere collection at the PPG, more than a decade later.

Jostein

Den 20.12.2016 21.06, skrev John Francis:

On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 02:08:41PM -0500, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

I just checked back and find that the first PUG I entered was in April
2000.  I know that it took me a few months to figure out how to scan my
prints for submission to the PUD, so I must have joined some time in early
2000.

As far as I can determine, Doug Brewer is the only member still around who
posted an image to the first PUG, in April 1997:

http://pug.komkon.org/archive/aprarchive.html

The first one of mine I can find is from June 1998

   http://pug.komkon.org/98jun/jun18.htm



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Re: And an annual happy birthday to everyone

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On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 8:52 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
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> Paul via phone
>
> > On Dec 22, 2016, at 8:29 PM, Gonz  wrote:
> >
> > The average age of PDML members is definitely going up.  Where is the
> > new blood!??
> >
> Taking pics with their phones.

And not using email, which most of them have never heard of. And if
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The PDML has a pretty robust geezers-only firewall in place.

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Paul via phone

> On Dec 22, 2016, at 8:29 PM, Gonz  wrote:
> 
> The average age of PDML members is definitely going up.  Where is the
> new blood!??
> 
Taking pics with their phones.
> 
>> On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 2:51 PM, Brian Walters  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> On Wed, Dec 21, 2016, at 07:43 AM, Jostein wrote:
>>> My first is also in June -98. The URL in the gallery is wrong though. :-)
>> 
>> 
>> Not any more  :-)>
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Cheers
>> 
>> Brian
>> 
>> ++
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>> Western Sydney Australia
>> http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> link in gallery: http://pug.komkon.org/jun98/jun7.htm
>>> link should be:  http://pug.komkon.org/98jun/jun7.htm
>>> 
>>> A different version of that shot was also the first image I got into the
>>> Premiere collection at the PPG, more than a decade later.
>>> 
>>> Jostein
>>> 
>>> Den 20.12.2016 21.06, skrev John Francis:
 On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 02:08:41PM -0500, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
> I just checked back and find that the first PUG I entered was in April
> 2000.  I know that it took me a few months to figure out how to scan my
> prints for submission to the PUD, so I must have joined some time in early
> 2000.
> 
> As far as I can determine, Doug Brewer is the only member still around who
> posted an image to the first PUG, in April 1997:
> 
> http://pug.komkon.org/archive/aprarchive.html
 
 The first one of mine I can find is from June 1998
 
  http://pug.komkon.org/98jun/jun18.htm
 
 
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The average age of PDML members is definitely going up.  Where is the
new blood!??


On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 2:51 PM, Brian Walters  wrote:
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 21, 2016, at 07:43 AM, Jostein wrote:
>> My first is also in June -98. The URL in the gallery is wrong though. :-)
>
>
> Not any more  :-)>
>
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> Cheers
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>> link in gallery: http://pug.komkon.org/jun98/jun7.htm
>> link should be:  http://pug.komkon.org/98jun/jun7.htm
>>
>> A different version of that shot was also the first image I got into the
>> Premiere collection at the PPG, more than a decade later.
>>
>> Jostein
>>
>> Den 20.12.2016 21.06, skrev John Francis:
>> > On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 02:08:41PM -0500, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
>> >> I just checked back and find that the first PUG I entered was in April
>> >> 2000.  I know that it took me a few months to figure out how to scan my
>> >> prints for submission to the PUD, so I must have joined some time in early
>> >> 2000.
>> >>
>> >> As far as I can determine, Doug Brewer is the only member still around who
>> >> posted an image to the first PUG, in April 1997:
>> >>
>> >> http://pug.komkon.org/archive/aprarchive.html
>> >
>> > The first one of mine I can find is from June 1998
>> >
>> >   http://pug.komkon.org/98jun/jun18.htm
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On Wed, Dec 21, 2016, at 07:43 AM, Jostein wrote:
> My first is also in June -98. The URL in the gallery is wrong though. :-)


Not any more  :-)>



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> link in gallery: http://pug.komkon.org/jun98/jun7.htm
> link should be:  http://pug.komkon.org/98jun/jun7.htm
> 
> A different version of that shot was also the first image I got into the 
> Premiere collection at the PPG, more than a decade later.
> 
> Jostein
> 
> Den 20.12.2016 21.06, skrev John Francis:
> > On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 02:08:41PM -0500, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
> >> I just checked back and find that the first PUG I entered was in April
> >> 2000.  I know that it took me a few months to figure out how to scan my
> >> prints for submission to the PUD, so I must have joined some time in early
> >> 2000.
> >>
> >> As far as I can determine, Doug Brewer is the only member still around who
> >> posted an image to the first PUG, in April 1997:
> >>
> >> http://pug.komkon.org/archive/aprarchive.html
> >
> > The first one of mine I can find is from June 1998
> >
> >   http://pug.komkon.org/98jun/jun18.htm
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On Wed, Dec 21, 2016, at 07:40 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:
> I think I started on the PDML around 1997 but I can't be sure. My
> first photo on the PUG was in December 1999, the "Synchronicity II"
> gallery. I didn't think it was very good then but I absolutely love it
> now. Rather Pictorialist, I think. (Though I can't imagine why I was
> shooting Delta 400).



Well, we're seeing lots of posts about whose been here the longest but I
wonder who is the most recent member.


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Western Sydney Australia
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Re: And an annual happy birthday to everyone

[Daniel J. Matyola]

On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 3:42 PM, Brian Walters 
wrote:

> When I joined, I saved my first post so that I wouldn't have to remember
> the date I joined.  Now, if I could only find that post
>

I love it!

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Re: And an annual happy birthday to everyone

[Jostein]

My first is also in June -98. The URL in the gallery is wrong though. :-)
link in gallery: http://pug.komkon.org/jun98/jun7.htm
link should be:  http://pug.komkon.org/98jun/jun7.htm

A different version of that shot was also the first image I got into the 
Premiere collection at the PPG, more than a decade later.


Jostein

Den 20.12.2016 21.06, skrev John Francis:

On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 02:08:41PM -0500, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

I just checked back and find that the first PUG I entered was in April
2000.  I know that it took me a few months to figure out how to scan my
prints for submission to the PUD, so I must have joined some time in early
2000.

As far as I can determine, Doug Brewer is the only member still around who
posted an image to the first PUG, in April 1997:

http://pug.komkon.org/archive/aprarchive.html


The first one of mine I can find is from June 1998

  http://pug.komkon.org/98jun/jun18.htm




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Re: And an annual happy birthday to everyone

[Brian Walters]

On Wed, Dec 21, 2016, at 05:51 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 11:14 AM, ann sanfedele 
> wrote:
> 
> > Reminder i'm 80 - so ... would anyone even fess up to being the oldest if
> > they are older than me?
> 
> 
> Well, I'm 5 years and 8 days younger than you, Ann, but still I'm so old
> I
> can't remember when I joined the PDML.


When I joined, I saved my first post so that I wouldn't have to remember
the date I joined.  Now, if I could only find that post



Cheers

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Re: And an annual happy birthday to everyone

[Mark Roberts]

I think I started on the PDML around 1997 but I can't be sure. My
first photo on the PUG was in December 1999, the "Synchronicity II"
gallery. I didn't think it was very good then but I absolutely love it
now. Rather Pictorialist, I think. (Though I can't imagine why I was
shooting Delta 400).
 
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Re: And an annual happy birthday to everyone

[Paul Stenquist]

I think I subscribed in ’99 and lurked for a while. I believe my first PUG was 
early 2000, perhaps April, like Dan. Don’t have time to check right now.
Paul


> On Dec 20, 2016, at 3:15 PM, Jostein  wrote:
> 
> I signed up in fall of -95. Probably November or December. I recall the 
> discussions around the MZ-5 before and after it was launched in spring -96.
> Jostein
> 
> Den 20.12.2016 21.06, skrev John Francis:
>> On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 02:08:41PM -0500, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
>>> I just checked back and find that the first PUG I entered was in April
>>> 2000.  I know that it took me a few months to figure out how to scan my
>>> prints for submission to the PUD, so I must have joined some time in early
>>> 2000.
>>> 
>>> As far as I can determine, Doug Brewer is the only member still around who
>>> posted an image to the first PUG, in April 1997:
>>> 
>>> http://pug.komkon.org/archive/aprarchive.html
>> 
>> The first one of mine I can find is from June 1998
>> 
>>  http://pug.komkon.org/98jun/jun18.htm
>> 
>> 
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Re: And an annual happy birthday to everyone

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I signed up in fall of -95. Probably November or December. I recall the 
discussions around the MZ-5 before and after it was launched in spring -96.

Jostein

Den 20.12.2016 21.06, skrev John Francis:

On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 02:08:41PM -0500, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

I just checked back and find that the first PUG I entered was in April
2000.  I know that it took me a few months to figure out how to scan my
prints for submission to the PUD, so I must have joined some time in early
2000.

As far as I can determine, Doug Brewer is the only member still around who
posted an image to the first PUG, in April 1997:

http://pug.komkon.org/archive/aprarchive.html


The first one of mine I can find is from June 1998

  http://pug.komkon.org/98jun/jun18.htm




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Re: And an annual happy birthday to everyone

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On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 02:08:41PM -0500, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
> I just checked back and find that the first PUG I entered was in April
> 2000.  I know that it took me a few months to figure out how to scan my
> prints for submission to the PUD, so I must have joined some time in early
> 2000.
> 
> As far as I can determine, Doug Brewer is the only member still around who
> posted an image to the first PUG, in April 1997:
> 
> http://pug.komkon.org/archive/aprarchive.html

The first one of mine I can find is from June 1998

  http://pug.komkon.org/98jun/jun18.htm


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Re: And an annual happy birthday to everyone

[Daniel J. Matyola]

That's the earliest PUG in the archives, and the one whose anniversary we
will celebrate in April.


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On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 2:40 PM, mike wilson 
wrote:

> > On 20 December 2016 at 19:08 "Daniel J. Matyola" 
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > I just checked back and find that the first PUG I entered was in April
> > 2000.  I know that it took me a few months to figure out how to scan my
> > prints for submission to the PUD, so I must have joined some time in
> early
> > 2000.
> >
> > As far as I can determine, Doug Brewer is the only member still around
> who
> > posted an image to the first PUG, in April 1997:
> >
> > http://pug.komkon.org/archive/aprarchive.html
>
> I think that may be the first PUG off the Pentax server. It's about (maybe
> six
> months after, if my increasingly fallible memory is to be trusted) when we
> were
> booted off.
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> On 20 December 2016 at 19:08 "Daniel J. Matyola"  wrote:
> 
> 
> I just checked back and find that the first PUG I entered was in April
> 2000.  I know that it took me a few months to figure out how to scan my
> prints for submission to the PUD, so I must have joined some time in early
> 2000.
> 
> As far as I can determine, Doug Brewer is the only member still around who
> posted an image to the first PUG, in April 1997:
> 
> http://pug.komkon.org/archive/aprarchive.html

I think that may be the first PUG off the Pentax server. It's about (maybe six
months after, if my increasingly fallible memory is to be trusted) when we were
booted off.

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Re: And an annual happy birthday to everyone

[Daniel J. Matyola]

I just checked back and find that the first PUG I entered was in April
2000.  I know that it took me a few months to figure out how to scan my
prints for submission to the PUD, so I must have joined some time in early
2000.

As far as I can determine, Doug Brewer is the only member still around who
posted an image to the first PUG, in April 1997:

http://pug.komkon.org/archive/aprarchive.html

Dan Matyola
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On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 1:54 PM, Collin B  wrote:

> Since people stay around here a long time I started to wonder ...
> Who is the youngest member here? And who is the senior member?
>
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Re: And an annual happy birthday to everyone

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On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 8:01 PM, Bill  wrote:
> On 12/19/2016 12:54 PM, Collin B wrote:
>>
>> Since people stay around here a long time I started to wonder ...
>> Who is the youngest member here? And who is the senior member?
>>
>>
>
> I'm 14.

I act 14.

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Re: And an annual happy birthday to everyone

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On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 11:14 AM, ann sanfedele  wrote:

> Reminder i'm 80 - so ... would anyone even fess up to being the oldest if
> they are older than me?


Well, I'm 5 years and 8 days younger than you, Ann, but still I'm so old I
can't remember when I joined the PDML.


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Re: And an annual happy birthday to everyone

[Paul in MKE]

No contest here...ya got five years on me, kiddo.

-p


On 12/20/2016 10:14 AM, ann sanfedele wrote:
Reminder i'm 80 - so ... would anyone even fess up to being the oldest 
if they are older than me?


I like being the eldest... so don't spoil it for me if you are 81 and up

ann


On 12/20/2016 1:12 AM, Larry Colen wrote:



mike wilson wrote:

On 20 December 2016 at 03:58 Bill  wrote:


On 12/19/2016 7:16 PM, John Coyle wrote:
I think I joined in 1997, under the Pentax USA management.  If 
that's not

the question, then I have
to confess to being 77!


If I remember correctly, I found the PDML in the fall of 1998.
Or perhaps the PDML fell when I found it in 1998.
Either way, I'm 14.


? Conventional arithmetic has you at 18.  OTOH, that is the age of 
maturity in
many cultures, so clearly wrong.  Maybe you're really a lady and 
nobody is

supposed to know your age.


Bill is many things, I can assure you that a lady is none of them.










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[John]

Welcome back. Glad TWC got the cable problems fixed relatively quickly.

On 12/20/2016 11:14 AM, ann sanfedele wrote:

Reminder i'm 80 - so ... would anyone even fess up to being the oldest
if they are older than me?

I like being the eldest... so don't spoil it for me if you are 81 and up

ann


On 12/20/2016 1:12 AM, Larry Colen wrote:



mike wilson wrote:

On 20 December 2016 at 03:58 Bill  wrote:


On 12/19/2016 7:16 PM, John Coyle wrote:

I think I joined in 1997, under the Pentax USA management.  If
that's not
the question, then I have
to confess to being 77!


If I remember correctly, I found the PDML in the fall of 1998.
Or perhaps the PDML fell when I found it in 1998.
Either way, I'm 14.


? Conventional arithmetic has you at 18.  OTOH, that is the age of
maturity in
many cultures, so clearly wrong.  Maybe you're really a lady and
nobody is
supposed to know your age.


Bill is many things, I can assure you that a lady is none of them.










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Re: And an annual happy birthday to everyone

[ann sanfedele]

Reminder i'm 80 - so ... would anyone even fess up to being the oldest 
if they are older than me?


I like being the eldest... so don't spoil it for me if you are 81 and up

ann


On 12/20/2016 1:12 AM, Larry Colen wrote:



mike wilson wrote:

On 20 December 2016 at 03:58 Bill  wrote:


On 12/19/2016 7:16 PM, John Coyle wrote:
I think I joined in 1997, under the Pentax USA management.  If 
that's not

the question, then I have
to confess to being 77!


If I remember correctly, I found the PDML in the fall of 1998.
Or perhaps the PDML fell when I found it in 1998.
Either way, I'm 14.


? Conventional arithmetic has you at 18.  OTOH, that is the age of 
maturity in
many cultures, so clearly wrong.  Maybe you're really a lady and 
nobody is

supposed to know your age.


Bill is many things, I can assure you that a lady is none of them.








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Re: And an annual happy birthday to everyone

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mike wilson wrote:

On 20 December 2016 at 03:58 Bill  wrote:


On 12/19/2016 7:16 PM, John Coyle wrote:

I think I joined in 1997, under the Pentax USA management.  If that's not
the question, then I have
to confess to being 77!


If I remember correctly, I found the PDML in the fall of 1998.
Or perhaps the PDML fell when I found it in 1998.
Either way, I'm 14.


? Conventional arithmetic has you at 18.  OTOH, that is the age of maturity in
many cultures, so clearly wrong.  Maybe you're really a lady and nobody is
supposed to know your age.


Bill is many things, I can assure you that a lady is none of them.





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Re: And an annual happy birthday to everyone

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> On 20 December 2016 at 03:58 Bill  wrote:
> 
> 
> On 12/19/2016 7:16 PM, John Coyle wrote:
> > I think I joined in 1997, under the Pentax USA management.  If that's not
> > the question, then I have
> > to confess to being 77!
> >
> 
> If I remember correctly, I found the PDML in the fall of 1998.
> Or perhaps the PDML fell when I found it in 1998.
> Either way, I'm 14.

? Conventional arithmetic has you at 18.  OTOH, that is the age of maturity in
many cultures, so clearly wrong.  Maybe you're really a lady and nobody is
supposed to know your age.

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RE: And an annual happy birthday to everyone

[Boris Liberman]

I am 45 in decimal. Born in Sept '71.

Joined the list some time in '02 having bought MZ-6/ZX-L for taking
pictures of my firstborn.



On 20 Dec 2016 05:09, "Igor PDML-StR"  wrote:

>
>
> I found the list, yet hosted and supported by Pentax while either while
> choosing my first AF SLR (which also happened to be my first K-mount SLR),
> or shortly after buying one in 1997.
>
> (After choosing between Nikon N50, N70, and N90, and not liking the
> ergonomics of N50 (and not being able to afford N90), I bought  Pentax
> ZX-5n, unseen, untried (unlike those Nikons), - purely based on the
> description. And I loved its ergonomics.)
>
> So, it makes me about 19.
>
> Regarding the age outside of PDML, - when I joined the list, I was
> probably the youngest one. Since that there were just a few people who were
> slightly younger, but at this point, I suspect, maybe Boris is slightly
> younger (or slightly older?) then me... I forgot... (or maybe I've never
> known that.)
>
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Re: And an annual happy birthday to everyone

[Bill]

On 12/19/2016 7:16 PM, John Coyle wrote:

I think I joined in 1997, under the Pentax USA management.  If that's not the 
question, then I have
to confess to being 77!



If I remember correctly, I found the PDML in the fall of 1998.
Or perhaps the PDML fell when I found it in 1998.
Either way, I'm 14.


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Re: And an annual happy birthday to everyone

[John]

By that measure, I'm pretty sure I've been here since late 2006.

On 12/19/2016 4:22 PM, David J Brooks wrote:

I believ i started in the first part of 2001

Dave

On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 4:10 PM, Ken Waller <kwal...@peoplepc.com> wrote:

I hooked up with the previous version of the list when it was sponsored by
Pentax sometime in the mid to late 90's.

Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - From: "Stanley Halpin"
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Subject: Re: And an annual happy birthday to everyone






On Dec 19, 2016, at 1:54 PM, Collin B <coll...@brendemuehl.net> wrote:

Since people stay around here a long time I started to wonder ...
Who is the youngest member here? And who is the senior member?



Assuming you meant PDML age rather than total chronological age…

I found PDML in the spring of ’97 or ’98. ’97 I think. I was getting
reengaged with photography, I was starting to expand my lens selection and
wanted a 135mm. I was totally baffled when trying to discern the relative
merits of the 4 used 135's then on the used market and I came seeking
advice. At the time it was easy to find as it was a link from the Pentax USA
homepage…

However, I don’t believe I am the most senior.

As the rest of the world reckons such things, I am 72 years old and 74
inches tall. Gradually getting old and shorter.

stan





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RE: And an annual happy birthday to everyone

[Igor PDML-StR]

I found the list, yet hosted and supported by Pentax while either while 
choosing my first AF SLR (which also happened to be my first K-mount SLR),

or shortly after buying one in 1997.

(After choosing between Nikon N50, N70, and N90, and not liking the 
ergonomics of N50 (and not being able to afford N90), I bought  Pentax 
ZX-5n, unseen, untried (unlike those Nikons), - purely based on the 
description. And I loved its ergonomics.)


So, it makes me about 19.

Regarding the age outside of PDML, - when I joined the list, I was 
probably the youngest one. Since that there were just a few people who 
were slightly younger, but at this point, I suspect, maybe Boris is 
slightly younger (or slightly older?) then me... I forgot... (or maybe 
I've never known that.)


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[John Coyle]

I think I joined in 1997, under the Pentax USA management.  If that's not the 
question, then I have
to confess to being 77!


John in Brisbane



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Since people stay around here a long time I started to wonder ...
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Re: And an annual happy birthday to everyone

[Larry Colen]

On December 19, 2016 5:01:47 PM PST, Bill  wrote:
>On 12/19/2016 12:54 PM, Collin B wrote:
>> Since people stay around here a long time I started to wonder ...
>> Who is the youngest member here? And who is the senior member?
>>
>>
>
>I'm 14.

A lot of programmers use base sixteen, you're the first I've seen use base 
sixty four. Or were you using octal to describe your maturity?

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[Bill]

On 12/19/2016 12:54 PM, Collin B wrote:

Since people stay around here a long time I started to wonder ...
Who is the youngest member here? And who is the senior member?




I'm 14.

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[Steve Cottrell]

On 19/12/16, John, discombobulated, unleashed:

>... and definitely the ugliest, so that's two categories taken care of.

John, on this occasion I gotta agree with ya man.


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Re: And an annual happy birthday to everyone

[Larry Colen]

David J Brooks wrote:

I believ i started in the first part of 2001


I think I joined in early 2010, just too late to be involved in the 
first annual.


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Re: And an annual happy birthday to everyone

[David J Brooks]

I believ i started in the first part of 2001

Dave

On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 4:10 PM, Ken Waller <kwal...@peoplepc.com> wrote:
> I hooked up with the previous version of the list when it was sponsored by
> Pentax sometime in the mid to late 90's.
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> - Original Message - From: "Stanley Halpin"
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> Subject: Re: And an annual happy birthday to everyone
>
>
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>>
>>> On Dec 19, 2016, at 1:54 PM, Collin B <coll...@brendemuehl.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> Since people stay around here a long time I started to wonder ...
>>> Who is the youngest member here? And who is the senior member?
>>>
>>
>> Assuming you meant PDML age rather than total chronological age…
>>
>> I found PDML in the spring of ’97 or ’98. ’97 I think. I was getting
>> reengaged with photography, I was starting to expand my lens selection and
>> wanted a 135mm. I was totally baffled when trying to discern the relative
>> merits of the 4 used 135's then on the used market and I came seeking
>> advice. At the time it was easy to find as it was a link from the Pentax USA
>> homepage…
>>
>> However, I don’t believe I am the most senior.
>>
>> As the rest of the world reckons such things, I am 72 years old and 74
>> inches tall. Gradually getting old and shorter.
>>
>> stan
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Re: And an annual happy birthday to everyone

[Ken Waller]

I hooked up with the previous version of the list when it was sponsored by 
Pentax sometime in the mid to late 90's.


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Subject: Re: And an annual happy birthday to everyone





On Dec 19, 2016, at 1:54 PM, Collin B <coll...@brendemuehl.net> wrote:

Since people stay around here a long time I started to wonder ...
Who is the youngest member here? And who is the senior member?



Assuming you meant PDML age rather than total chronological age…

I found PDML in the spring of ’97 or ’98. ’97 I think. I was getting 
reengaged with photography, I was starting to expand my lens selection and 
wanted a 135mm. I was totally baffled when trying to discern the relative 
merits of the 4 used 135's then on the used market and I came seeking 
advice. At the time it was easy to find as it was a link from the Pentax 
USA homepage…


However, I don’t believe I am the most senior.

As the rest of the world reckons such things, I am 72 years old and 74 
inches tall. Gradually getting old and shorter.


stan



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Re: And an annual happy birthday to everyone

[Jack Davis]

None of your business! :-(

J

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> On Dec 19, 2016, at 12:10 PM, David J Brooks  wrote:
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> I'm the spelliest
> 
> Dave
> 
>> On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 1:54 PM, Collin B  wrote:
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>> Who is the youngest member here? And who is the senior member?
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Re: And an annual happy birthday to everyone

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> On Dec 19, 2016, at 1:54 PM, Collin B  wrote:
> 
> Since people stay around here a long time I started to wonder ...
> Who is the youngest member here? And who is the senior member?
> 

Assuming you meant PDML age rather than total chronological age…

I found PDML in the spring of ’97 or ’98. ’97 I think. I was getting reengaged 
with photography, I was starting to expand my lens selection and wanted a 
135mm. I was totally baffled when trying to discern the relative merits of the 
4 used 135's then on the used market and I came seeking advice. At the time it 
was easy to find as it was a link from the Pentax USA homepage…

However, I don’t believe I am the most senior.

As the rest of the world reckons such things, I am 72 years old and 74 inches 
tall. Gradually getting old and shorter.

stan
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Re: And an annual happy birthday to everyone

[Stanley Halpin]

> On Dec 19, 2016, at 3:10 PM, David J Brooks  wrote:
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> I'm the spelliest
> 
> Dave

Dave, you really don’t smell all that bad!

stan

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Re: And an annual happy birthday to everyone

[David J Brooks]

I'm the spelliest

Dave

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Re: And an annual happy birthday to everyone

[John]

On 12/19/2016 2:06 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote:

On 19/12/16, Collin B, discombobulated, unleashed:


Since people stay around here a long time I started to wonder ...
Who is the youngest member here? And who is the senior member?


I'm the tallest.

Possibly.



... and definitely the ugliest, so that's two categories taken care of.

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Re: And an annual happy birthday to everyone

[John]

On 12/19/2016 1:54 PM, Collin B wrote:

Since people stay around here a long time I started to wonder ...
Who is the youngest member here? And who is the senior member?




If I've counted correctly, I'm 66.

Puts me somewhere in the lower middle bracket I think. I'm pretty sure
Larry's younger than I am. Ann & Dan are older, and maybe Jack Davis.

Don't really know about the rest

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Re: And an annual happy birthday to everyone

[Larry Colen]

On December 19, 2016 10:54:35 AM PST, Collin B  wrote:
>Since people stay around here a long time I started to wonder ...
>Who is the youngest member here? And who is the senior member?


One thing that surprised me was the number of us on this list born in 1960, 
although Bong comes closest to my birthday, although I'd it weren't for the 
international date line we might not have been born on the same day.
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Re: And an annual happy birthday to everyone

[Boris Liberman]

My easterness is definitely the middlest though possibly Bulent will
challenge me on this one.

On 19 Dec 2016 21:07, "Steve Cottrell"  wrote:

> On 19/12/16, Collin B, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
> >Since people stay around here a long time I started to wonder ...
> >Who is the youngest member here? And who is the senior member?
>
> I'm the tallest.
>
> Possibly.
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Re: And an annual happy birthday to everyone

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On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 07:24:20PM +, mike wilson wrote:
> > On 19 December 2016 at 19:06 Steve Cottrell  wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > On 19/12/16, Collin B, discombobulated, unleashed:
> > 
> > >Since people stay around here a long time I started to wonder ...
> > >Who is the youngest member here? And who is the senior member?
> > 
> > I'm the tallest.
> > 
> > Possibly.
> 
> We'll probably have to run death bouts to see who's cleverest.

Which won't tell you anything, as the really clever folks will shun them...

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Re: And an annual happy birthday to everyone

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> On 19 December 2016 at 19:06 Steve Cottrell  wrote:
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> 
> On 19/12/16, Collin B, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
> >Since people stay around here a long time I started to wonder ...
> >Who is the youngest member here? And who is the senior member?
> 
> I'm the tallest.
> 
> Possibly.

We'll probably have to run death bouts to see who's cleverest.

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Re: And an annual happy birthday to everyone

[Steve Cottrell]

On 19/12/16, Collin B, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Since people stay around here a long time I started to wonder ...
>Who is the youngest member here? And who is the senior member?

I'm the tallest.

Possibly.

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