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Keith wrote Even so, if I had never visited California, I might never have moved. Where abouts in Ca are you Keith? Cotty Oh, swipe me! He paints with light! http://www.macads.co.uk/snaps/ Free UK Macintosh Classified Ads at http://www.macads.co.uk/
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I know exactly where that is! I was up there the other day. My daughter lives in Ben Lomond. From your old place, drive east to 17, head south, then up Rt. 9 to Ben Lomond. Middle of the redwoods. Cotty wrote: Hi Keith, Between 1967 and 1976 I lived here: http://maps.yahoo.com/py/maps.py?country=usuz=95129addr=bing+drivecity= San+Josestate=CAzip=95129mag=6 Long time ago but we left when I was 16. Very formative years. I haven't been back (to CA) since, but it is my plan to in a few years. Cheers, Cotty Give a shout, and we'll tip a pint or two! keith
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I know exactly where that is! I was up there the other day. My daughter lives in Ben Lomond. From your old place, drive east to 17, head south, then up Rt. 9 to Ben Lomond. Middle of the redwoods. Amazingly small world :-) We used to go down there - is it near Santa Cruz? I so desperatekly want to photograph the California coast - gotta do the Ansel bit before I die. It'll happen. Cot Oh, swipe me! He paints with light! http://www.macads.co.uk/snaps/ Free UK Macintosh Classified Ads at http://www.macads.co.uk/
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Cotty wrote: I know exactly where that is! I was up there the other day. My daughter lives in Ben Lomond. From your old place, drive east to 17, head south, then up Rt. 9 to Ben Lomond. Middle of the redwoods. Amazingly small world :-) I find it so, more and more! We used to go down there - is it near Santa Cruz? Just before you get to the south end of Rt. 17, where it meets up with Rt. 1, you get off at Mt. Herman road, thru the small town of Scotts Valley and then head north up Rt. 9, along the San Lorenzo River. That junction is several miles north of Santa Cruz, but indeed in the vicinity! Daughter's house backs up on the west bank of that river. She's got a nice patio 1/2 way down the semi-wooded slope, room for 6 or 8 chairs, cool and shady in the summer, great view of the river slowly heading by... I so desperately want to photograph the California coast - gotta do the Ansel bit before I die. It'll happen. Cot Sure it will! I'll send you some maps... g keith whaley
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Kathy L wrote: North Royalton. It's a southwest suburb of Cleveland, about 25 - 30 miles from Mentor. Okay, I know where it is... If Mentor didn't have winters like they do, I may never have moved... Well, more to the point, if their unemployment rate didn't jump up and down as much as it did, I might still live there! Even so, if I had never visited California, I might never have moved. But...all those DID happen, so here I am! big grin My poor sister still lives there... She's more easily brain-washed. Thanks, and welcome! keith whaley - Original Message - From: Keith Whaley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 7:21 AM Subject: Re: I have just joined the list Where's that, Kathy? I used to live in Mentor. keith whaley Kathy L wrote: Welcome, from cold, snow-covered northeast Ohio, Marcel. Kathy L. - Original Message - [apparently snipped!]
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You don't know how true this was to be... I had an invitation to attend the high school all-star football game held at the Alamodome last Sunday. I would have had a press pass and access to the field. Alas, there was no reasonable air fare to be found. And, sorry guys, that was just a bit too far to travel alone. It would have been great to get back together, Cesar Panama City, Florida -- -Original Message- -- From: Dan Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] -- Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 12:01 AM -- -- -- On Thursday, January 9, 2003, at 09:36 PM, Peter Alling wrote: -- -- -- You know Cesar, you're just a little frightening. :) -- -- At 08:23 AM 1/9/2003 -0500, you wrote: -- Gee Frank, does that mean you will ignore my posts from now on? -- Being the -- owner of 5 LX cameras I fall into the first group. Last night I -- called a -- local photographer, and pending a test roll, I will soon -- be the owner -- of a -- 645n, FA 75/2.8, and AF-500FTZ flash. That puts me into -- both groups. -- -- If I say I like your bunny ears, will you not write me off? ;-) -- -- Cesar -- Panama City, Florida -- -- -- Cesar is the Pentaxinator (LX model cyber Pentax -- ambassador), and, yes, -- he'll be back. g -- -- Dan Scott --
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See my response to Dan. You know I honestly thought about whether or not to re-skin it. With three normal ones, it will become difficult to tell them apart. Except for the one from Italia, it has a special little badge on its front. Chances are it will remain as it is though. But just in case maybe I should peruse the replacement leathers available and pick a suitable one ;-) Ciao, César Panama City, Florida -- -Original Message- -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] -- Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 7:46 PM -- -- Dan Scott posted: -- Cesar is the Pentaxinator (LX model cyber Pentax -- ambassador), and, yes, -- he'll be back. g -- -- I hope you're right, since I messed up the portrait I tried -- to take of him with -- your 77 Ltd. -- -- Hope he comes by to show off LX V *before* snakifying -- it. --
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Welcome, from cold, snow-covered northeast Ohio, Marcel. Kathy L. - Original Message -
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Where's that, Kathy? I used to live in Mentor. keith whaley Kathy L wrote: Welcome, from cold, snow-covered northeast Ohio, Marcel. Kathy L. - Original Message - [apparently snipped!]
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Iron Man Frank wrote: From what I hear from the cult leader, 645's don't count, ya gotta have a 6x7. But, whatever, I'd never ignore your posts. g Go easy on me Frank :-) 3 x LXen and 1 x 6x7. Although I might sell one of the three on the left, to fund another on the right! Malcolm
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It's those damned robes. They swish when you walk. Len --- From: Christian Skofteland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: I have just joined the list Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 22:05:18 -0500 Pardon me? Christian Skofteland [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 10:10 PM Subject: RE: I have just joined the list They're slightly swishy too. tv _ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
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TV, Your jealousy of the snake skins is showing... Cesar Panama City, Florida -- -Original Message- -- From: tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] -- Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 10:11 PM -- -- -Original Message- -- From: Bruce Dayton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] -- -- -- Unlike the LX gang, we don't talk that often, but when we -- do, we talk -- LOUD! The LXxen just talk alot. -- -- They're slightly swishy too. -- -- Us 645'ers just shut up and go to work. -- -- tv -- --
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-Original Message- From: Cesar Matamoros II [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] TV, Your jealousy of the snake skins is showing... Nah. #7 has thigh-high faux snakeskin boots, which is plenty for me. tv
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We could arrange that... Cesar Panama City, Florida -- -Original Message- -- From: tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] -- Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 9:30 AM -- -- -Original Message- -- From: Cesar Matamoros II [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] -- -- -- -- TV, didn't one of your assistants talk about re-skinning -- your 645n? ;-) -- -- -- Yeah, and I told her it'd have to be her own skin. -- -- Anyway, what she really wants is a pink MZ-S. -- -- tv -- --
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On Thu, 9 Jan 2003, tom wrote: Anyway, what she really wants is a pink MZ-S. The Hello, Kitty! Voightlander won't do? -- http://www.infotainment.org - more fun than a poke in your eye. http://www.eighteenpercent.com- photography and portfolio.
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You know Cesar, you're just a little frightening. :) At 08:23 AM 1/9/2003 -0500, you wrote: Gee Frank, does that mean you will ignore my posts from now on? Being the owner of 5 LX cameras I fall into the first group. Last night I called a local photographer, and pending a test roll, I will soon be the owner of a 645n, FA 75/2.8, and AF-500FTZ flash. That puts me into both groups. If I say I like your bunny ears, will you not write me off? ;-) Cesar Panama City, Florida -- -Original Message- -- From: frank theriault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] -- Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 5:39 PM -- -- Hi, Marcel, -- -- Welcome aboard! You're in good company with your MX. Many -- of us own and love -- them, but we're not nearly as obnoxious about it as the LX -- and Medium Format -- boys vbg. -- -- Sounds like you'll be a great asset to the list. -- -- cheers, -- frank (Toronto, Canada) -- -- Marcel Appenzzell wrote: -- -- Hello, everybody ... -- -- I have just joined the list today after reading it for -- about a week. Please -- allow me to introduce myself.snip -- -- -- -- -- The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible -- worlds. The pessimist -- fears it is true. -J. Robert -- Oppenheimer -- -- Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. --Groucho Marx
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You'll just have to use Anaconda. At 08:26 AM 1/9/2003 -0500, you wrote: Mark, Will a 645n do? Though it would take a complete snake, wouldn't it? But since you mentioned it... TV, didn't one of your assistants talk about re-skinning your 645n? ;-) Cesar Panama City, Florida -- -Original Message- -- From: Mark Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] -- Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 6:06 PM -- -- frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- -- Well, LX owners are more sufferable than those in the -- vaunted Brotherhood (6x7 -- owners, to you neophytes) - mind you, the Brotherhood has -- been pretty quiet -- since Aaron left the list. vbg -- -- You're quite right about that. Really puts things in perspective. -- -- Hey, Cesar, you gotta get a 67 and put a snakeskin cover on THAT! -- -- -- -- Mark Roberts -- Photography and writing -- www.robertstech.com -- Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. --Groucho Marx
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Moderate mediocrities? At 10:50 AM 1/9/2003 -0500, you wrote: On Tue, 8 Jan 2002, Christian wrote: Well bretheren, at least LXers are not trying to compensate for something... ;-P So, if the LX'rs are swishy, and the Brotherhood are overcompensating, where does that leave the 645'rs? ;) -- http://www.infotainment.org - more fun than a poke in your eye. http://www.eighteenpercent.com- photography and portfolio. Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. --Groucho Marx
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On Thursday, January 9, 2003, at 09:36 PM, Peter Alling wrote: You know Cesar, you're just a little frightening. :) At 08:23 AM 1/9/2003 -0500, you wrote: Gee Frank, does that mean you will ignore my posts from now on? Being the owner of 5 LX cameras I fall into the first group. Last night I called a local photographer, and pending a test roll, I will soon be the owner of a 645n, FA 75/2.8, and AF-500FTZ flash. That puts me into both groups. If I say I like your bunny ears, will you not write me off? ;-) Cesar Panama City, Florida Cesar is the Pentaxinator (LX model cyber Pentax ambassador), and, yes, he'll be back. g Dan Scott
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Being the owner of 5 LX cameras Cesar, You know, that's really quite impressive. Even without the snakeskin! --Mike
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Dan Scott posted: Cesar is the Pentaxinator (LX model cyber Pentax ambassador), and, yes, he'll be back. g I hope you're right, since I messed up the portrait I tried to take of him with your 77 Ltd. Hope he comes by to show off LX V *before* snakifying it.
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Welcome to the list, Marcel. Don't forget to check out our members' monthly gallery at http://pug.komkon.org/. There is information on submitting your own work at the bottom of the gallery page. t On 1/8/03 9:19 AM, Marcel Appenzzell wrote: Hello, everybody ... I have just joined the list today after reading it for about a week. Please allow me to introduce myself. My name is Marcel, and I have been involved inphotography for many years. My first camera was a Pentax Spotmatic, which I still have, although for the past twenty years I kave been using newer bodies, and have some LX cameras, a few MX cameras, and, of course, the venerable ME Super. After trying many lenses from Pentax the early SMC Pentax lenses seemed most satisfactory, and I now have many such optics The MX is my favorite camera, and I am always looking for good bodies, preferably in black. I like the small size and that it's a manual camera. The LX is OK, and it has a purpose for some special uses, but it is too big a noisy many times. I make many kinds of photographs, and prefer working with people. The exploration of macro and close up photography is very interesting to me, and I am beginning to explore that. Pentax has nice close up gear. So, there you are. Thank you. Marcel Appenzzell _ The new MSN 8 is here: Try it free* for 2 months http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup
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-Original Message- From: Marcel Appenzzell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Hello, everybody ... I have just joined the list today after reading it for about a week. Mi Marcel, welcome aboard. Marcel Appenzzell Are you Swiss? I've been to Apppenzell...brought home a few pounds of that good cheese tv
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Welcome to the PDML. We're glad you're here. At 12:19 PM 1/8/03, you wrote: Hello, everybody ... I have just joined the list today after reading it for about a week. Please allow me to introduce myself. My name is Marcel, and I have been involved inphotography for many years. SNIP
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Not Suisse - Polish. The story of how and why I have this name is long and complicated. From: tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] Are you Swiss? I've been to Apppenzell...brought home a few pounds of that good cheese _ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963
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I have been involved inphotography for many years. My first camera was a Pentax Spotmatic, which I still have, although for the past twenty years I kave been using newer bodies, and have some LX cameras, a few MX cameras, and, of course, the venerable ME Super. After trying many lenses from Pentax the early SMC Pentax lenses seemed most satisfactory, and I now have many such optics Well, you are in the right place. Welcome, Marcel. --Mike
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Marcel Appenzzell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The MX is my favorite camera, and I am always looking for good bodies, preferably in black. The Pentax MX rules, baby! The LX is OK, and it has a purpose for some special uses, but it is too big a noisy many times. Oh, and there's those insufferable LX owners... ;-P -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
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Hi Marcel, welcome to the PDML! Cotty Oh, swipe me! He paints with light! http://www.macads.co.uk/snaps/ Free UK Macintosh Classified Ads at http://www.macads.co.uk/
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Mark, You realize I will have to beat you about the head and shoulders with all of mine - both normal and re-skinned ;-) As an aside, my trip to GFM is in jeopardy. I believe I have a triathlon to support that day :-( Cesar Panama City, Florida -- -Original Message- -- From: Mark Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] -- Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 2:29 PM -- -- Marcel Appenzzell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- -- The MX is my favorite camera, and I am always looking for -- good bodies, -- preferably in black. -- -- The Pentax MX rules, baby! -- -- The LX is OK, and it has a purpose for some special uses, -- but it is too big -- a noisy many times. -- -- Oh, and there's those insufferable LX owners... -- ;-P -- -- -- -- Mark Roberts -- Photography and writing -- www.robertstech.com --
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Many enjoy the off-topic threads more than anything... Unfortunately... Fred
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I enjoy discussions about photography as well as discussions about equipment. Is discussing photography - especially with Pentax cameras - off topic? Marcel Appenzzell From: Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] Many enjoy the off-topic threads more than anything... Unfortunately... _ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail
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Hi Marcel, Welcome to the list. - Original Message - From: Marcel Appenzzell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 7:19 PM Subject: I have just joined the list Hello, everybody ...
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frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, LX owners are more sufferable than those in the vaunted Brotherhood (6x7 owners, to you neophytes) - mind you, the Brotherhood has been pretty quiet since Aaron left the list. vbg You're quite right about that. Really puts things in perspective. Hey, Cesar, you gotta get a 67 and put a snakeskin cover on THAT! -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
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Hi Marcel; Actually discussions of photography, especially when taken with Pentax equipment is very much on topic. The list does have an occasional tendency to take an off topic thread and run wild with it. Just take it with a grain of salt and it will eventually run its course. One of the things I especially like about the list is its international nature. You mentioned that you are Polish. We have a number of Polish members on the list. You will also find on the list a wealth of Pentax and general (and specific) photographic knowledge. Welcome BUTCH Each man had only one genuine vocation - to find the way to himself Hermann Hesse (Demian)
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Unlike the LX gang, we don't talk that often, but when we do, we talk LOUD! The LXxen just talk alot. Brother Bruce Wednesday, January 8, 2003, 3:06:01 PM, you wrote: MR frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, LX owners are more sufferable than those in the vaunted Brotherhood (6x7 owners, to you neophytes) - mind you, the Brotherhood has been pretty quiet since Aaron left the list. vbg MR You're quite right about that. Really puts things in perspective. MR Hey, Cesar, you gotta get a 67 and put a snakeskin cover on THAT!
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Hey, Cesar, you gotta get a 67 and put a snakeskin cover on THAT! I think that he'd have to stitch together several snakeskins to cover a 67. It's just like Naugahyde - I wonder just how many little nauga's have to sacrifice their lives in order for us to cover something in Naugahyde... - g Fred
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-Original Message- From: Bruce Dayton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Unlike the LX gang, we don't talk that often, but when we do, we talk LOUD! The LXxen just talk alot. They're slightly swishy too. Us 645'ers just shut up and go to work. tv
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Pardon me? Christian Skofteland [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 10:10 PM Subject: RE: I have just joined the list They're slightly swishy too. tv
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- Original Message - From: Christian Skofteland Subject: Re: I have just joined the list Pardon me? S'Okay, its just Wanker Tom being envious again. Brother William Christian Skofteland [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 10:10 PM Subject: RE: I have just joined the list They're slightly swishy too. tv
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Put in the film and sync up the flash Or you ain't gonna make no spendin' cash If you don't check those batteries over You ain't gonna be rollin' in the clover Yakety yak (don't talk back) Just you finish cleanin' those lenses Let's see that dust fly off that 67 Get excess garbage out of the bag Go take those photos of that ol' hag Yakety yak (don't talk back) You just put on your coat and hat And walk yourself to the photomat And when you finish doin' that Crop those prints 'cause your a hack Yakety yak (don't talk back) Don't you give me no dirty looks Your PUG is hip; they knows what cooks Just tell your hoodlum model outside You ain't got time to take her ride Yakety yak (don't talk back) Yakety yak, yakety yak Yakety yak, yakety yak Yakety yak, yakety yak Regards, Bob Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy! - Benjamin Franklin From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unlike the LX gang, we don't talk that often, but when we do, we talk LOUD! The LXxen just talk alot. Wednesday, January 8, 2003, 3:06:01 PM, you wrote: MR frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, LX owners are more sufferable than those in the vaunted Brotherhood (6x7 owners, to you neophytes) - mind you, the Brotherhood has been pretty quiet since Aaron left the list. vbg
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Hi, Christian, tom said, They're slightly swishy too. always glad to help, frank Christian Skofteland wrote: Pardon me? Christian Skofteland [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 10:10 PM Subject: RE: I have just joined the list They're slightly swishy too. tv -- The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer
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Wherever it is that Bob Blakely lives, I'm going to go there one day and get real drunk with him. Cheers! (growler 1/2 empty) tv -Original Message- From: Bob Blakely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 10:36 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: I have just joined the list Put in the film and sync up the flash Or you ain't gonna make no spendin' cash If you don't check those batteries over You ain't gonna be rollin' in the clover Yakety yak (don't talk back) Just you finish cleanin' those lenses Let's see that dust fly off that 67 Get excess garbage out of the bag Go take those photos of that ol' hag Yakety yak (don't talk back) You just put on your coat and hat And walk yourself to the photomat And when you finish doin' that Crop those prints 'cause your a hack Yakety yak (don't talk back) Don't you give me no dirty looks Your PUG is hip; they knows what cooks Just tell your hoodlum model outside You ain't got time to take her ride Yakety yak (don't talk back) Yakety yak, yakety yak Yakety yak, yakety yak Yakety yak, yakety yak Regards, Bob Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy! - Benjamin Franklin From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unlike the LX gang, we don't talk that often, but when we do, we talk LOUD! The LXxen just talk alot. Wednesday, January 8, 2003, 3:06:01 PM, you wrote: MR frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, LX owners are more sufferable than those in the vaunted Brotherhood (6x7 owners, to you neophytes) - mind you, the Brotherhood has been pretty quiet since Aaron left the list. vbg
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- Original Message - From: tom Subject: RE: I have just joined the list Wherever it is that Bob Blakely lives, I'm going to go there one day and get real drunk with him. Invite me along. T'would be fun to have Piss Face, Wanker Tom and Wheatfield Willie at the same table. Wheatfield Willie Yup, Tom, I am trying to hang an objectionable nickname on you. HAR!!
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Well bretheren, at least LXers are not trying to compensate for something... ;-P Christian - Original Message - From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 10:43 PM Subject: Re: I have just joined the list Hi, Christian, tom said, They're slightly swishy too. always glad to help, frank Christian Skofteland wrote: Pardon me? Christian Skofteland [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 10:10 PM Subject: RE: I have just joined the list They're slightly swishy too. tv -- The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer
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- Original Message - From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yup, Tom, I am trying to hang an objectionable nickname on you. HAR!! objectionable? Tom IS a wanker Chrstan (do you realze how hard t s to compose an emal wth a crappy laptop that has a eyboard whch has several letters noperable?)
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Shut up, I'm passed out. tv -Original Message- From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 11:05 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: I have just joined the list - Original Message - From: tom Subject: RE: I have just joined the list Wherever it is that Bob Blakely lives, I'm going to go there one day and get real drunk with him. Invite me along. T'would be fun to have Piss Face, Wanker Tom and Wheatfield Willie at the same table. Wheatfield Willie Yup, Tom, I am trying to hang an objectionable nickname on you. HAR!!
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- Original Message - From: Christian Subject: Re: I have just joined the list Well bretheren, at least LXers are not trying to compensate for something... ;-P The LX has auto compensation. Thats the beauty of it. William Robb
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I am of Polish descent - my family moved from Poland to France just about the time I was born. I have never been to Poland. It is not my home. Thank you for the kind welcome. Marcel Appenzzell From: Butch Black [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax discussion group [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: I have just joined the list Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 18:32:38 -0500 Hi Marcel; You mentioned that you are Polish. We have a number of Polish members on the list. You will also find on the list a wealth of Pentax and general (and specific) photographic knowledge. _ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail