Re: K10D ISO 3200 is Available ...
On 9/14/06 12:51 AM, P. J. Alling, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since they claim and extra stop in SR over the K100D maybe that's where the extra stop is coming from. According to a Japanese article, extra stop comes from more robust magnet/coil over K100D's and the improved SR algorithm. Ken -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D ISO 3200 is Available ...
On 13/9/06, Adam Maas, discombobulated, unleashed: While I generally agree, I found the Pentax DSLR's to produce very film-like results at high ISO's. The Canon and Nikon's are more objectionable (Although my D50 is extremely clean at 800). And for those who don't find it objectionable: http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/spare6.html ISO 1600 from a RAW file. I've lightened the detail pic to illustrate noise better. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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I quit like that don't find it objectionable at all. Sometimes I forget how good a snapper you are. :-) Dave At 03:18 PM 14/09/2006, you wrote: On 13/9/06, Adam Maas, discombobulated, unleashed: While I generally agree, I found the Pentax DSLR's to produce very film-like results at high ISO's. The Canon and Nikon's are more objectionable (Although my D50 is extremely clean at 800). And for those who don't find it objectionable: http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/spare6.html ISO 1600 from a RAW file. I've lightened the detail pic to illustrate noise better. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On 14/9/06, David Savage, discombobulated, unleashed: Sometimes I forget how good a snapper you are. You can simulate my aperture any time you like. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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The temptation. But I wouldn't do that. From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 14/9/06, David Savage, discombobulated, unleashed: Sometimes I forget how good a slapper you are. You can stimulate my aperture any time you like. - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On 9/14/06, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The temptation. But I wouldn't do that. Since when? Go for it ;-) From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 14/9/06, David Savage, discombobulated, unleashed: Sometimes I forget how good a slapper you are. You can stimulate my aperture any time you like. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On 9/14/06, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 14/9/06, David Savage, discombobulated, unleashed: Sometimes I forget how good a snapper you are. You can simulate my aperture any time you like. Good thing I just finished my drink... Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Shel Belinkoff wrote: .. or so says Pentax Imaging. http://tinyurl.com/gulfl Shel And if you click on Specifications, it goes to 1600. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shel Belinkoff wrote: .. or so says Pentax Imaging. http://tinyurl.com/gulfl Shel And if you click on Specifications, it goes to 1600. And if you read at the bottom, it says Specifications are subject to change. LOL. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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For me, the high ISO settings are irrelevant. I don't even like using 400 on my DL as the noise is unacceptable to me. Anything higher and the noise is so bad i can't see myself using shots taken at high ISOs for anything more than snapshots. One thing I don't like about my DL is the fact that it only goes down to 200. I'm looking forward to having 100iso on the K10D. - Original Message - From: Gonz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 11:51 AM Subject: Re: K10D ISO 3200 is Available ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shel Belinkoff wrote: .. or so says Pentax Imaging. http://tinyurl.com/gulfl Shel And if you click on Specifications, it goes to 1600. And if you read at the bottom, it says Specifications are subject to change. LOL. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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I don't know about the DL but I find on the D ISO 1600 3200 are very usable. Especially with the judicious use of noise reduction software in PP. http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/PESO/peso_1.htm http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Noise%20Test/Misc_008.htm Sometimes it's the difference between getting the shot and getting a blurry blob ;-) Cheers, Dave At 10:00 AM 14/09/2006, J and K Messervy wrote: For me, the high ISO settings are irrelevant. I don't even like using 400 on my DL as the noise is unacceptable to me. Anything higher and the noise is so bad i can't see myself using shots taken at high ISOs for anything more than snapshots. One thing I don't like about my DL is the fact that it only goes down to 200. I'm looking forward to having 100iso on the K10D. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D ISO 3200 is Available ...
It's definitely a horses for courses thing. I like film grain, but really dislike digital noise. - Original Message - From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 12:08 PM Subject: Re: K10D ISO 3200 is Available ... I don't know about the DL but I find on the D ISO 1600 3200 are very usable. Especially with the judicious use of noise reduction software in PP. http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/PESO/peso_1.htm http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Noise%20Test/Misc_008.htm Sometimes it's the difference between getting the shot and getting a blurry blob ;-) Cheers, Dave At 10:00 AM 14/09/2006, J and K Messervy wrote: For me, the high ISO settings are irrelevant. I don't even like using 400 on my DL as the noise is unacceptable to me. Anything higher and the noise is so bad i can't see myself using shots taken at high ISOs for anything more than snapshots. One thing I don't like about my DL is the fact that it only goes down to 200. I'm looking forward to having 100iso on the K10D. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Totally agree..on both counts. Due to my shooting habits, I haven't shot with anything faster than ISO 100 in many years. Jack --- J and K Messervy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For me, the high ISO settings are irrelevant. I don't even like using 400 on my DL as the noise is unacceptable to me. Anything higher and the noise is so bad i can't see myself using shots taken at high ISOs for anything more than snapshots. One thing I don't like about my DL is the fact that it only goes down to 200. I'm looking forward to having 100iso on the K10D. - Original Message - From: Gonz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 11:51 AM Subject: Re: K10D ISO 3200 is Available ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shel Belinkoff wrote: .. or so says Pentax Imaging. http://tinyurl.com/gulfl Shel And if you click on Specifications, it goes to 1600. And if you read at the bottom, it says Specifications are subject to change. LOL. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D ISO 3200 is Available ...
While I generally agree, I found the Pentax DSLR's to produce very film-like results at high ISO's. The Canon and Nikon's are more objectionable (Although my D50 is extremely clean at 800). -Adam J and K Messervy wrote: It's definitely a horses for courses thing. I like film grain, but really dislike digital noise. - Original Message - From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 12:08 PM Subject: Re: K10D ISO 3200 is Available ... I don't know about the DL but I find on the D ISO 1600 3200 are very usable. Especially with the judicious use of noise reduction software in PP. http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/PESO/peso_1.htm http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Noise%20Test/Misc_008.htm Sometimes it's the difference between getting the shot and getting a blurry blob ;-) Cheers, Dave At 10:00 AM 14/09/2006, J and K Messervy wrote: For me, the high ISO settings are irrelevant. I don't even like using 400 on my DL as the noise is unacceptable to me. Anything higher and the noise is so bad i can't see myself using shots taken at high ISOs for anything more than snapshots. One thing I don't like about my DL is the fact that it only goes down to 200. I'm looking forward to having 100iso on the K10D. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D ISO 3200 is Available ...
Sensitivity equivalent... Since they claim and extra stop in SR over the K100D maybe that's where the extra stop is coming from. I didn't see it in the preview of the Custom Menu on the dpreview site. Shel Belinkoff wrote: .. or so says Pentax Imaging. http://tinyurl.com/gulfl Shel -- Things should be made as simple as possible -- but no simpler. --Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D ISO 3200 is Available ...
Most complaints about excessive noise at reasonable ISO settings are, in my experience, almost always due to underexposure. Digital exposure evaluation should be predicated on getting as much exposure as possible without saturating the pixels where you want detail in the highlights, and then adjusting the RAW conversion curve to accommodate the specific lighting circumstances. While I shoot primarily at ISO 200-400 to increase dynamic range as much as possible, I've gotten excellent, low noise results even at ISO 1600 with proper exposure. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
