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The central city is still mostly cordoned off as a few buildings have sustained extra damage due to aftershocks. Because of this I haven't been in there yet. I found this link through Facebook and it has a lot of photos that I haven't seen before in the media. http://www.crashbang.co.nz/quake040910/index.html?ref=nf what a mess. But it shows you the value of building regulations. I believe the Haiti earthquake was of a similar magnitude, and look at the impact that had. One of my friends is a structural engineer and has been working out there on reconstruction (pro bono). He has some terrible stories, but also frustration at how easy it could have been to limit the destruction. I had a fairly disturbed night, we had a few of the biggest aftershocks we've had so far. 11:24pm 5.2 11:40pm 5.4 12:21am 4.7 3:24am 5.4 Lots more in the 3 to 4 range, it's only the larger ones that wake me up but the smaller ones are enough to keep me awake. I know I'll be safe but it's surprising how much frustration and anxiety it causes when you don't know how much sleep you'll get. I think it's exacerbated by the general lack of sleep, it's a bit of a vicious circle. sounds very difficult. [...] Sorry for the long-winded post :) keep it coming. It's fascinating. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 9/7/2010 1:45 AM, David Mann wrote: The central city is still mostly cordoned off as a few buildings have sustained extra damage due to aftershocks. Because of this I haven't been in there yet. I found this link through Facebook and it has a lot of photos that I haven't seen before in the media. http://www.crashbang.co.nz/quake040910/index.html?ref=nf I had a fairly disturbed night, we had a few of the biggest aftershocks we've had so far. Reminds me of the quake in LA back in 1994 (I think). At the time my former university classmate just moved there and it was very scary. Just be sure to stay out of trouble, Dave. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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David Mann wrote Sent: 06 September 2010 23:46 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: More quake photos The central city is still mostly cordoned off as a few buildings have sustained extra damage due to aftershocks. Because of this I haven't been in there yet. I found this link through Facebook and it has a lot of photos that I haven't seen before in the media. http://www.crashbang.co.nz/quake040910/index.html?ref=nf Fascinating pictures Dave. It looks far worse than is being reported over here. The one of the bent railway tracks stands out for me. Sorry for the long-winded post :) No problem, it's interesting to hear from someone on the ground. Keep it coming. Chris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Sep 7, 2010, at 6:34 PM, Bob W wrote: what a mess. But it shows you the value of building regulations. I believe the Haiti earthquake was of a similar magnitude, and look at the impact that had. Yes you're exactly right and it's something I'm very aware of. Not only the tight regulations but the lack of corruption means that buildings actually meet those regulations. It may be a pain having to boil all drinking water and water the garden to minimise the strain on sewers but I do have a roof over my head. I also have food, electricity, telephone, good roads etc. The list goes on and it could all have disappeared for weeks. As is the case with most things, timing is everything. I work in the CBD and if it had struck while I was out on my lunch break I could have ended up entombed. One of my friends is a structural engineer and has been working out there on reconstruction (pro bono). He has some terrible stories, but also frustration at how easy it could have been to limit the destruction. I hope they apply some better standards when rebuilding. The unfortunate thing about many places (Haiti especially) is that they're very poor and even if they wanted to implement better building standards they may not be able to afford to do so. But I'm sure that many of the techniques just require a little knowledge and don't add much cost. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Sep 7, 2010, at 02:36 , David Mann wrote: One of my friends is a structural engineer and has been working out there on reconstruction (pro bono). He has some terrible stories, but also frustration at how easy it could have been to limit the destruction. I hope they apply some better standards when rebuilding. The unfortunate thing about many places (Haiti especially) is that they're very poor and even if they wanted to implement better building standards they may not be able to afford to do so. But I'm sure that many of the techniques just require a little knowledge and don't add much cost. Yes. Methinks stacking cemented cinder blocks and painting them pastels does not a good structure make. Every earthquake brings a different set of rules with it. I've been scared to death indoors in a room with a baby grand during a 4.6 quake as I watched it wriggle across the floor towards me as I braced against the wall. I've been driving on an elevated roadway not at all unlike the 880 that collapsed in Oakland in 1983 and just thought my car's power steering had gone weird during a 7.1 quake. The practically condemned structure is still in use 14 years later, braced up with steel supports. And I slept through a 4.9 quake in my sisters basement with my 19 tv hanging by an intricate webbing of clothesline over my shins that I had always predicted would crack my bones if it fell. It didn't. But her chimney did. Right outside the casement window by my bed. Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com “ The early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.” — Kevan Olesen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Sep 8, 2010, at 5:16 AM, Joseph McAllister wrote: Every earthquake brings a different set of rules with it. It certainly does. The Richter magnitude doesn't really tell you much, it's just an estimate of the energy released by the quake. The amount of shaking depends a lot on the distance depth of the quake as well as the local structures underground, how wet the soil is etc etc. And obviously you'll feel it stronger in a tall building. A few years back I saw an article of a small town, I think it was in California, that was devastated by a relatively modest quake. The rock structures underground had effectively formed a lens that focussed the energy in that area. We just had a huge aftershock at 7:50am this morning. I was sure it was the 6 they'd been anticipating but it was apparently only 5.1. But the initial location estimate put it closer to the city and only 6km deep. I'll tell you now the shaking was MUCH stronger than the 5.4 ones we've had. If that had struck during the night I probably wouldn't have slept! As it happens, last night was the best sleep I've had, only woke up a couple of times. Had a bit of trouble getting back to sleep but nowhere near as bad as the previous night. I should really get to work. I've had my work PC dropped off at my house on Monday and the boss said in an email yesterday that he would appreciate normal hours and 100% effort. A comment that resulted in a bit of feedback from the sleep-deprived employees. I haven't even been able to visit any family members yet so being expected to work doesn't sit too well with me. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Wow - sobering photos and your narrative Dave - so glad you aren't even worse off... In the states after the first event and discovery taht there were not many terminal casualties the news stations don't consider something down your way so important... Thanks for filling us in and sending the photos... look forward to see your's. Hope the aftershocks subside soon. Best, ann David Mann wrote: The central city is still mostly cordoned off as a few buildings have sustained extra damage due to aftershocks. Because of this I haven't been in there yet. I found this link through Facebook and it has a lot of photos that I haven't seen before in the media. http://www.crashbang.co.nz/quake040910/index.html?ref=nf I had a fairly disturbed night, we had a few of the biggest aftershocks we've had so far. 11:24pm 5.2 11:40pm 5.4 12:21am 4.7 3:24am 5.4 Lots more in the 3 to 4 range, it's only the larger ones that wake me up but the smaller ones are enough to keep me awake. I know I'll be safe but it's surprising how much frustration and anxiety it causes when you don't know how much sleep you'll get. I think it's exacerbated by the general lack of sleep, it's a bit of a vicious circle. I'd be struggling to cope if I was living alone so I really feel sorry for those who are. Janet was actually away in the North Island last week at a conference, she arrived home on Friday night so I'm lucky she was around (yes she was glad to be home, she would have been pretty worried otherwise). The news footage I saw last night makes me realise how lucky we are to live on this side of the city where we didn't get much liquefaction. Lots of houses are being condemned due to huge cracks appearing right through them. Some are almost brand new but they had no chance when the ground opened up underneath and ruined the foundations. My work PC is now set up in my office at home but I'm not terribly motivated due to the fatigue. I'm keeping up to date with the news so as soon as the cordon comes off the area where my office building is, I'll go in. I need to collect a few things so I'll probably only have room for one camera lens (K10D and 24mm I think). I'd take our PS as it's smaller but Janet has that with her for work. Sorry for the long-winded post :) Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I live in an area that was last hit by a serious quake in 1812 -- a series of three over the course of four months, estimated to be around 8.0 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Madrid_Seismic_Zone). They've been saying we're overdue for about 50 years now ... not the most comforting thought, considering the area is not anywhere near as prepared -- building or infrastructure-wise -- as Christchurch appears to be. I've felt a couple of tremors in the past -- around the size of your aftershocks listed below. They're startling, but don't leave you with the sense of dread/terror that a 7+ quake will. I certainly don't look forward to the day when the big one finally happens. And, sadly enough, I'm in no way prepared for it. Hope things settle down for you folks, soon. I'm sure the psychological aftershocks will go on for a while after the geological ones finally fade. Just hang in there. Best, Walt On 9/6/2010 5:45 PM, David Mann wrote: The central city is still mostly cordoned off as a few buildings have sustained extra damage due to aftershocks. Because of this I haven't been in there yet. I found this link through Facebook and it has a lot of photos that I haven't seen before in the media. http://www.crashbang.co.nz/quake040910/index.html?ref=nf I had a fairly disturbed night, we had a few of the biggest aftershocks we've had so far. 11:24pm 5.2 11:40pm 5.4 12:21am 4.7 3:24am 5.4 Lots more in the 3 to 4 range, it's only the larger ones that wake me up but the smaller ones are enough to keep me awake. I know I'll be safe but it's surprising how much frustration and anxiety it causes when you don't know how much sleep you'll get. I think it's exacerbated by the general lack of sleep, it's a bit of a vicious circle. I'd be struggling to cope if I was living alone so I really feel sorry for those who are. Janet was actually away in the North Island last week at a conference, she arrived home on Friday night so I'm lucky she was around (yes she was glad to be home, she would have been pretty worried otherwise). The news footage I saw last night makes me realise how lucky we are to live on this side of the city where we didn't get much liquefaction. Lots of houses are being condemned due to huge cracks appearing right through them. Some are almost brand new but they had no chance when the ground opened up underneath and ruined the foundations. My work PC is now set up in my office at home but I'm not terribly motivated due to the fatigue. I'm keeping up to date with the news so as soon as the cordon comes off the area where my office building is, I'll go in. I need to collect a few things so I'll probably only have room for one camera lens (K10D and 24mm I think). I'd take our PS as it's smaller but Janet has that with her for work. Sorry for the long-winded post :) Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Darn. Sounds like things have gotten worse for you. Hope those aftershocks end soon. Stay safe. Paul On Sep 7, 2010, at 8:11 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: Wow - sobering photos and your narrative Dave - so glad you aren't even worse off... In the states after the first event and discovery taht there were not many terminal casualties the news stations don't consider something down your way so important... Thanks for filling us in and sending the photos... look forward to see your's. Hope the aftershocks subside soon. Best, ann David Mann wrote: The central city is still mostly cordoned off as a few buildings have sustained extra damage due to aftershocks. Because of this I haven't been in there yet. I found this link through Facebook and it has a lot of photos that I haven't seen before in the media. http://www.crashbang.co.nz/quake040910/index.html?ref=nf I had a fairly disturbed night, we had a few of the biggest aftershocks we've had so far. 11:24pm 5.2 11:40pm 5.4 12:21am 4.7 3:24am 5.4 Lots more in the 3 to 4 range, it's only the larger ones that wake me up but the smaller ones are enough to keep me awake. I know I'll be safe but it's surprising how much frustration and anxiety it causes when you don't know how much sleep you'll get. I think it's exacerbated by the general lack of sleep, it's a bit of a vicious circle. I'd be struggling to cope if I was living alone so I really feel sorry for those who are. Janet was actually away in the North Island last week at a conference, she arrived home on Friday night so I'm lucky she was around (yes she was glad to be home, she would have been pretty worried otherwise). The news footage I saw last night makes me realise how lucky we are to live on this side of the city where we didn't get much liquefaction. Lots of houses are being condemned due to huge cracks appearing right through them. Some are almost brand new but they had no chance when the ground opened up underneath and ruined the foundations. My work PC is now set up in my office at home but I'm not terribly motivated due to the fatigue. I'm keeping up to date with the news so as soon as the cordon comes off the area where my office building is, I'll go in. I need to collect a few things so I'll probably only have room for one camera lens (K10D and 24mm I think). I'd take our PS as it's smaller but Janet has that with her for work. Sorry for the long-winded post :) Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Sep 8, 2010, at 12:15 PM, paul stenquist wrote: Darn. Sounds like things have gotten worse for you. Hope those aftershocks end soon. Stay safe. Paul They'll be going for a few more weeks but with reducing intensity frequency. But we can still get a reasonably significant event. We found a few more cracks in walls ceilings this morning. Just minor ones, certainly not structural. It's amazing what these houses can put up with. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Sep 8, 2010, at 12:16 PM, Walter Gilbert wrote: I live in an area that was last hit by a serious quake in 1812 -- a series of three over the course of four months, estimated to be around 8.0 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Madrid_Seismic_Zone). They've been saying we're overdue for about 50 years now ... not the most comforting thought, considering the area is not anywhere near as prepared -- building or infrastructure-wise -- as Christchurch appears to be. We're about due for something in the 8+ region from the main alpine fault which cuts down through the length of the South Island. There was a 7.8 down in Fiordland last year but it's an unpopulated area and the nature of the quake meant the energy was released slowly and largely focussed offshore. The alpine fault is a bit further away from here and a quake centered there is likely to be a lot deeper so the shaking might not be much different from our 7.1, but it'd probably go on for a lot longer. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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It's amazing how little I have heard about all of this here. The pictures are amazing and horrifying. The railroad track shot really struck me for some reason. -Original Message- From: David Mann d...@multisport.net.nz Sender: pdml-boun...@pdml.net Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 12:54:59 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: More quake photos On Sep 8, 2010, at 12:16 PM, Walter Gilbert wrote: I live in an area that was last hit by a serious quake in 1812 -- a series of three over the course of four months, estimated to be around 8.0 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Madrid_Seismic_Zone). They've been saying we're overdue for about 50 years now ... not the most comforting thought, considering the area is not anywhere near as prepared -- building or infrastructure-wise -- as Christchurch appears to be. We're about due for something in the 8+ region from the main alpine fault which cuts down through the length of the South Island. There was a 7.8 down in Fiordland last year but it's an unpopulated area and the nature of the quake meant the energy was released slowly and largely focussed offshore. The alpine fault is a bit further away from here and a quake centered there is likely to be a lot deeper so the shaking might not be much different from our 7.1, but it'd probably go on for a lot longer. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 6:45 PM, David Mann d...@multisport.net.nz wrote: The central city is still mostly cordoned off as a few buildings have sustained extra damage due to aftershocks. Because of this I haven't been in there yet. I found this link through Facebook and it has a lot of photos that I haven't seen before in the media. http://www.crashbang.co.nz/quake040910/index.html?ref=nf I had a fairly disturbed night, we had a few of the biggest aftershocks we've had so far. 11:24pm 5.2 11:40pm 5.4 12:21am 4.7 3:24am 5.4 Lots more in the 3 to 4 range, it's only the larger ones that wake me up but the smaller ones are enough to keep me awake. I know I'll be safe but it's surprising how much frustration and anxiety it causes when you don't know how much sleep you'll get. I think it's exacerbated by the general lack of sleep, it's a bit of a vicious circle. I'd be struggling to cope if I was living alone so I really feel sorry for those who are. Janet was actually away in the North Island last week at a conference, she arrived home on Friday night so I'm lucky she was around (yes she was glad to be home, she would have been pretty worried otherwise). The news footage I saw last night makes me realise how lucky we are to live on this side of the city where we didn't get much liquefaction. Lots of houses are being condemned due to huge cracks appearing right through them. Some are almost brand new but they had no chance when the ground opened up underneath and ruined the foundations. My work PC is now set up in my office at home but I'm not terribly motivated due to the fatigue. I'm keeping up to date with the news so as soon as the cordon comes off the area where my office building is, I'll go in. I need to collect a few things so I'll probably only have room for one camera lens (K10D and 24mm I think). I'd take our PS as it's smaller but Janet has that with her for work. Sorry for the long-winded post :) No worries about the length of the post. Glad to hear that you're all right (even though clearly rattled somewhat - as one would expect one to be!). Some astounding photos in there! Take care, please. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thank you for the update. No apologies called for - there are many of us in cyberspace who are quite interested both in your wellbeing and in your victim's-eye-view of your experience. stan On Sep 6, 2010, at 5:45 PM, David Mann wrote: The central city is still mostly cordoned off as a few buildings have sustained extra damage due to aftershocks. Because of this I haven't been in there yet. I found this link through Facebook and it has a lot of photos that I haven't seen before in the media. http://www.crashbang.co.nz/quake040910/index.html?ref=nf I had a fairly disturbed night, we had a few of the biggest aftershocks we've had so far. 11:24pm 5.2 11:40pm 5.4 12:21am 4.7 3:24am 5.4 Lots more in the 3 to 4 range, it's only the larger ones that wake me up but the smaller ones are enough to keep me awake. I know I'll be safe but it's surprising how much frustration and anxiety it causes when you don't know how much sleep you'll get. I think it's exacerbated by the general lack of sleep, it's a bit of a vicious circle. I'd be struggling to cope if I was living alone so I really feel sorry for those who are. Janet was actually away in the North Island last week at a conference, she arrived home on Friday night so I'm lucky she was around (yes she was glad to be home, she would have been pretty worried otherwise). The news footage I saw last night makes me realise how lucky we are to live on this side of the city where we didn't get much liquefaction. Lots of houses are being condemned due to huge cracks appearing right through them. Some are almost brand new but they had no chance when the ground opened up underneath and ruined the foundations. My work PC is now set up in my office at home but I'm not terribly motivated due to the fatigue. I'm keeping up to date with the news so as soon as the cordon comes off the area where my office building is, I'll go in. I need to collect a few things so I'll probably only have room for one camera lens (K10D and 24mm I think). I'd take our PS as it's smaller but Janet has that with her for work. Sorry for the long-winded post :) Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Sep 7, 2010, at 11:16 AM, Stan Halpin wrote: Thank you for the update. No apologies called for - there are many of us in cyberspace who are quite interested both in your wellbeing and in your victim's-eye-view of your experience. Thanks, Stan. I'm glad people are finding some interest in this. I am learning a lot from the experience. I never expected the aftershocks to be so frustrating. Normally a 5.4 would scare the shit out of me, especially if it's shallow and close. But right now I just want them to stop so I can get some sleep at night. They always seem to be stronger at night, maybe I just notice them more because I'm lying down and trying to relax. It really does wear you down and I don't know what kind of state I'll be in after a couple of weeks of it. The Mrs is OK, she is sleeping a lot better than I am. Must be hard for people with frightened kids as well. The boss sent an email around today asking for 100% effort, probably trying to be encouraging for the sake of the business and our customers but it hasn't done much for my mood :) Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Hi Dave: Thanks for keeping us up to date on the situation by you. Easier said than done, I know, but try to get some rest. We're thinking of you the Mrs. here in Chicago. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: David Mann d...@multisport.net.nz To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Monday, September 06, 2010 5:45 PM Subject: More quake photos The central city is still mostly cordoned off as a few buildings have sustained extra damage due to aftershocks. Because of this I haven't been in there yet. I found this link through Facebook and it has a lot of photos that I haven't seen before in the media. http://www.crashbang.co.nz/quake040910/index.html?ref=nf I had a fairly disturbed night, we had a few of the biggest aftershocks we've had so far. 11:24pm 5.2 11:40pm 5.4 12:21am 4.7 3:24am 5.4 Lots more in the 3 to 4 range, it's only the larger ones that wake me up but the smaller ones are enough to keep me awake. I know I'll be safe but it's surprising how much frustration and anxiety it causes when you don't know how much sleep you'll get. I think it's exacerbated by the general lack of sleep, it's a bit of a vicious circle. I'd be struggling to cope if I was living alone so I really feel sorry for those who are. Janet was actually away in the North Island last week at a conference, she arrived home on Friday night so I'm lucky she was around (yes she was glad to be home, she would have been pretty worried otherwise). The news footage I saw last night makes me realise how lucky we are to live on this side of the city where we didn't get much liquefaction. Lots of houses are being condemned due to huge cracks appearing right through them. Some are almost brand new but they had no chance when the ground opened up underneath and ruined the foundations. My work PC is now set up in my office at home but I'm not terribly motivated due to the fatigue. I'm keeping up to date with the news so as soon as the cordon comes off the area where my office building is, I'll go in. I need to collect a few things so I'll probably only have room for one camera lens (K10D and 24mm I think). I'd take our PS as it's smaller but Janet has that with her for work. Sorry for the long-winded post :) Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.