Re: OT: Old-car identification?
FWIW, the little bit of the car that is visible in the photo does look somewhat like the '35 Fords in Darren's Google Image Search results. I don't see any parts that are obviously NOT a 35 Ford. On 12/19/2013 8:48 PM, Rick Womer wrote: Dang, Darren! I was =really= impressed for about 43 seconds. Rick On Dec 19, 2013, at 7:15 PM, Stan Halpin wrote: Thanks Darren! Interesting sleuthing, but Odessa may have thrown you off the track. In fact we are dealing with Odessa NY, a burg of 300-500 people at the time. (Smaller now.) Nearest locales likely to have had dealerships (in rough order of distance) are: Montour Falls, Watkins Glen, Elmira, Corning, and Ithaca. My father's family were dairy farmers, and my grandfather was arguably the most successful and affluent farmer in that portion of what was and is New York State's poorest county. Big fish, small pond. He bought and leased quite a few acres from others who didn't have the resources to make it through the depression. On my mother's side, there was a long-standing preference for GM products. On my father's side, IIRC the tendency was for Chrysler. I hardly knew my grandfather, he died in the early '50s, but from the stories I've heard he was likely to go for a good deal, brand-loyalty be damned. Crank the above into your calculations and see what that produces... stan On Dec 19, 2013, at 6:37 PM, Darren Addy wrote: Well, I'll play Sherlock here. The lines of the car (we can't discount TRUCK, but the window shape of the open door suggests CAR to me) are definitely mid-30s. The photo was taken in 1937, which was essentially the close of the Depression. So a new car struck me a bit affluent. So I did a little searching. Assuming that Odessa is Odessa, Texas we can do a little research on that area. It seems that Ector County was part of the Texas oil boom, with a big strick in the area in 1926. Odessa became the shipping and oilfield supply center for the county's burgeoning petroleum boom. County lands produced almost 12,330,000 barrels of oil in 1938. In 1930 3,958 people lived in Ector County; the population increased to 15,051 in 1940. http://www.tshaonline.org/handbook/online/articles/hce02 Now let's turn our attention to auto dealerships in Odessa in the mid-30s. Today there exists a Sewell Ford in Odessa. Did it exist in the mid-30s? Yep! In fact, In 1935, (Sewell) sons Carl Sr. and Woody, purchased the the bankrupt Love Motor Company in Odessa. Located at 2nd Street Texas Avenue, Carl Sewell Motor sold half of their 22-vehicle inventory on opening day. New cars sold from $695 - $1,035. A new truck could be bought for $635. http://www.vancesnewsletter.com/sewell-ford-history.html Could this car be a 1935 Ford Sedan, purchased on that opening day in 1935? Let's take a look: http://goo.gl/UcR6RB Notice the horizontal bar going across the grill that, if extended, would go across the top portion of the headlights? It can be seen in Stan's family picture. Notice the shape of the bottom corners of the windshield (also a match). Notice the groove running through the middle of the front bumper? I'm guessing that we are looking at a 1935 Ford Sedan, purchased from Sewell Ford in Odessa, TX in 1935. http://www.carfolio.com/specifications/models/car/?car=118448 But that's just a guess. :) On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 3:32 PM, Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote: No others at this point. My Aunt has many of the photos from that era, but I don't have ready access. stan On Dec 19, 2013, at 3:37 PM, Paul Sorenson wrote: My first inclination was Ford, too. Any other pix that show the car any better? -p On 12/19/2013 2:19 PM, Zos Xavius wrote: It looks like a ford. Not much to go on here though. On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 1:55 PM, Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote: A cousin is working on family history stuff and recently came up with this photo of my father (15 yrs old at the time) and his siblings in 1937. The question is, what make/model was the family car? http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p155717848/e1babf2a8 Thanks! stan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Old-car identification?
It looks like a ford. Not much to go on here though. On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 1:55 PM, Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote: A cousin is working on family history stuff and recently came up with this photo of my father (15 yrs old at the time) and his siblings in 1937. The question is, what make/model was the family car? http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p155717848/e1babf2a8 Thanks! stan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Old-car identification?
My first inclination was Ford, too. Any other pix that show the car any better? -p On 12/19/2013 2:19 PM, Zos Xavius wrote: It looks like a ford. Not much to go on here though. On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 1:55 PM, Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote: A cousin is working on family history stuff and recently came up with this photo of my father (15 yrs old at the time) and his siblings in 1937. The question is, what make/model was the family car? http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p155717848/e1babf2a8 Thanks! stan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Being old doesn't seem so old now that I'm old. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Old-car identification?
No others at this point. My Aunt has many of the photos from that era, but I don't have ready access. stan On Dec 19, 2013, at 3:37 PM, Paul Sorenson wrote: My first inclination was Ford, too. Any other pix that show the car any better? -p On 12/19/2013 2:19 PM, Zos Xavius wrote: It looks like a ford. Not much to go on here though. On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 1:55 PM, Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote: A cousin is working on family history stuff and recently came up with this photo of my father (15 yrs old at the time) and his siblings in 1937. The question is, what make/model was the family car? http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p155717848/e1babf2a8 Thanks! stan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Being old doesn't seem so old now that I'm old. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Old-car identification?
Well, I'll play Sherlock here. The lines of the car (we can't discount TRUCK, but the window shape of the open door suggests CAR to me) are definitely mid-30s. The photo was taken in 1937, which was essentially the close of the Depression. So a new car struck me a bit affluent. So I did a little searching. Assuming that Odessa is Odessa, Texas we can do a little research on that area. It seems that Ector County was part of the Texas oil boom, with a big strick in the area in 1926. Odessa became the shipping and oilfield supply center for the county's burgeoning petroleum boom. County lands produced almost 12,330,000 barrels of oil in 1938. In 1930 3,958 people lived in Ector County; the population increased to 15,051 in 1940. http://www.tshaonline.org/handbook/online/articles/hce02 Now let's turn our attention to auto dealerships in Odessa in the mid-30s. Today there exists a Sewell Ford in Odessa. Did it exist in the mid-30s? Yep! In fact, In 1935, (Sewell) sons Carl Sr. and Woody, purchased the the bankrupt Love Motor Company in Odessa. Located at 2nd Street Texas Avenue, Carl Sewell Motor sold half of their 22-vehicle inventory on opening day. New cars sold from $695 - $1,035. A new truck could be bought for $635. http://www.vancesnewsletter.com/sewell-ford-history.html Could this car be a 1935 Ford Sedan, purchased on that opening day in 1935? Let's take a look: http://goo.gl/UcR6RB Notice the horizontal bar going across the grill that, if extended, would go across the top portion of the headlights? It can be seen in Stan's family picture. Notice the shape of the bottom corners of the windshield (also a match). Notice the groove running through the middle of the front bumper? I'm guessing that we are looking at a 1935 Ford Sedan, purchased from Sewell Ford in Odessa, TX in 1935. http://www.carfolio.com/specifications/models/car/?car=118448 But that's just a guess. :) On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 3:32 PM, Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote: No others at this point. My Aunt has many of the photos from that era, but I don't have ready access. stan On Dec 19, 2013, at 3:37 PM, Paul Sorenson wrote: My first inclination was Ford, too. Any other pix that show the car any better? -p On 12/19/2013 2:19 PM, Zos Xavius wrote: It looks like a ford. Not much to go on here though. On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 1:55 PM, Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote: A cousin is working on family history stuff and recently came up with this photo of my father (15 yrs old at the time) and his siblings in 1937. The question is, what make/model was the family car? http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p155717848/e1babf2a8 Thanks! stan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Being old doesn't seem so old now that I'm old. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- I don't have a problem with idiots. I have a problem with the fact that they have an internet connection. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Old-car identification?
By the way, it appears that the horizontal bars in the grill were not present in the 1936 Fords. On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 5:37 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: Well, I'll play Sherlock here. The lines of the car (we can't discount TRUCK, but the window shape of the open door suggests CAR to me) are definitely mid-30s. The photo was taken in 1937, which was essentially the close of the Depression. So a new car struck me a bit affluent. So I did a little searching. Assuming that Odessa is Odessa, Texas we can do a little research on that area. It seems that Ector County was part of the Texas oil boom, with a big strick in the area in 1926. Odessa became the shipping and oilfield supply center for the county's burgeoning petroleum boom. County lands produced almost 12,330,000 barrels of oil in 1938. In 1930 3,958 people lived in Ector County; the population increased to 15,051 in 1940. http://www.tshaonline.org/handbook/online/articles/hce02 Now let's turn our attention to auto dealerships in Odessa in the mid-30s. Today there exists a Sewell Ford in Odessa. Did it exist in the mid-30s? Yep! In fact, In 1935, (Sewell) sons Carl Sr. and Woody, purchased the the bankrupt Love Motor Company in Odessa. Located at 2nd Street Texas Avenue, Carl Sewell Motor sold half of their 22-vehicle inventory on opening day. New cars sold from $695 - $1,035. A new truck could be bought for $635. http://www.vancesnewsletter.com/sewell-ford-history.html Could this car be a 1935 Ford Sedan, purchased on that opening day in 1935? Let's take a look: http://goo.gl/UcR6RB Notice the horizontal bar going across the grill that, if extended, would go across the top portion of the headlights? It can be seen in Stan's family picture. Notice the shape of the bottom corners of the windshield (also a match). Notice the groove running through the middle of the front bumper? I'm guessing that we are looking at a 1935 Ford Sedan, purchased from Sewell Ford in Odessa, TX in 1935. http://www.carfolio.com/specifications/models/car/?car=118448 But that's just a guess. :) On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 3:32 PM, Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote: No others at this point. My Aunt has many of the photos from that era, but I don't have ready access. stan On Dec 19, 2013, at 3:37 PM, Paul Sorenson wrote: My first inclination was Ford, too. Any other pix that show the car any better? -p On 12/19/2013 2:19 PM, Zos Xavius wrote: It looks like a ford. Not much to go on here though. On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 1:55 PM, Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote: A cousin is working on family history stuff and recently came up with this photo of my father (15 yrs old at the time) and his siblings in 1937. The question is, what make/model was the family car? http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p155717848/e1babf2a8 Thanks! stan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Being old doesn't seem so old now that I'm old. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- I don't have a problem with idiots. I have a problem with the fact that they have an internet connection. -- I don't have a problem with idiots. I have a problem with the fact that they have an internet connection. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Old-car identification?
Thanks Darren! Interesting sleuthing, but Odessa may have thrown you off the track. In fact we are dealing with Odessa NY, a burg of 300-500 people at the time. (Smaller now.) Nearest locales likely to have had dealerships (in rough order of distance) are: Montour Falls, Watkins Glen, Elmira, Corning, and Ithaca. My father's family were dairy farmers, and my grandfather was arguably the most successful and affluent farmer in that portion of what was and is New York State's poorest county. Big fish, small pond. He bought and leased quite a few acres from others who didn't have the resources to make it through the depression. On my mother's side, there was a long-standing preference for GM products. On my father's side, IIRC the tendency was for Chrysler. I hardly knew my grandfather, he died in the early '50s, but from the stories I've heard he was likely to go for a good deal, brand-loyalty be damned. Crank the above into your calculations and see what that produces... stan On Dec 19, 2013, at 6:37 PM, Darren Addy wrote: Well, I'll play Sherlock here. The lines of the car (we can't discount TRUCK, but the window shape of the open door suggests CAR to me) are definitely mid-30s. The photo was taken in 1937, which was essentially the close of the Depression. So a new car struck me a bit affluent. So I did a little searching. Assuming that Odessa is Odessa, Texas we can do a little research on that area. It seems that Ector County was part of the Texas oil boom, with a big strick in the area in 1926. Odessa became the shipping and oilfield supply center for the county's burgeoning petroleum boom. County lands produced almost 12,330,000 barrels of oil in 1938. In 1930 3,958 people lived in Ector County; the population increased to 15,051 in 1940. http://www.tshaonline.org/handbook/online/articles/hce02 Now let's turn our attention to auto dealerships in Odessa in the mid-30s. Today there exists a Sewell Ford in Odessa. Did it exist in the mid-30s? Yep! In fact, In 1935, (Sewell) sons Carl Sr. and Woody, purchased the the bankrupt Love Motor Company in Odessa. Located at 2nd Street Texas Avenue, Carl Sewell Motor sold half of their 22-vehicle inventory on opening day. New cars sold from $695 - $1,035. A new truck could be bought for $635. http://www.vancesnewsletter.com/sewell-ford-history.html Could this car be a 1935 Ford Sedan, purchased on that opening day in 1935? Let's take a look: http://goo.gl/UcR6RB Notice the horizontal bar going across the grill that, if extended, would go across the top portion of the headlights? It can be seen in Stan's family picture. Notice the shape of the bottom corners of the windshield (also a match). Notice the groove running through the middle of the front bumper? I'm guessing that we are looking at a 1935 Ford Sedan, purchased from Sewell Ford in Odessa, TX in 1935. http://www.carfolio.com/specifications/models/car/?car=118448 But that's just a guess. :) On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 3:32 PM, Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote: No others at this point. My Aunt has many of the photos from that era, but I don't have ready access. stan On Dec 19, 2013, at 3:37 PM, Paul Sorenson wrote: My first inclination was Ford, too. Any other pix that show the car any better? -p On 12/19/2013 2:19 PM, Zos Xavius wrote: It looks like a ford. Not much to go on here though. On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 1:55 PM, Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote: A cousin is working on family history stuff and recently came up with this photo of my father (15 yrs old at the time) and his siblings in 1937. The question is, what make/model was the family car? http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p155717848/e1babf2a8 Thanks! stan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Being old doesn't seem so old now that I'm old. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- I don't have a problem with idiots. I have a problem with the fact that they have an internet connection. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Old-car identification?
I looked for features. It's got the 2 strips on the door and the vertical lined grille. Plus the horizontal bars across the grille, though only one is visible. The grille is also tall. Headlights in a similar position and the lower corners of the windshield round similarly. I first looked at the 36 Ford, but though the window and door matched the grille did not. http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:1936_Ford_Model_68_730_De_Luxe_Fordor _Touring_Sedan_dk.jpg So one year old and voila. I think this is it, or at worst a different variant of the same year. http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:1935_Ford_Model_48_730_De_Luxe_Fordor _Touring_Sedan_4M7628.jpg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Old-car identification?
Odessa, NY and not Odessa TX? Missed it by THAT much. On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 6:15 PM, Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote: Thanks Darren! Interesting sleuthing, but Odessa may have thrown you off the track. In fact we are dealing with Odessa NY, a burg of 300-500 people at the time. (Smaller now.) Nearest locales likely to have had dealerships (in rough order of distance) are: Montour Falls, Watkins Glen, Elmira, Corning, and Ithaca. My father's family were dairy farmers, and my grandfather was arguably the most successful and affluent farmer in that portion of what was and is New York State's poorest county. Big fish, small pond. He bought and leased quite a few acres from others who didn't have the resources to make it through the depression. On my mother's side, there was a long-standing preference for GM products. On my father's side, IIRC the tendency was for Chrysler. I hardly knew my grandfather, he died in the early '50s, but from the stories I've heard he was likely to go for a good deal, brand-loyalty be damned. Crank the above into your calculations and see what that produces... stan On Dec 19, 2013, at 6:37 PM, Darren Addy wrote: Well, I'll play Sherlock here. The lines of the car (we can't discount TRUCK, but the window shape of the open door suggests CAR to me) are definitely mid-30s. The photo was taken in 1937, which was essentially the close of the Depression. So a new car struck me a bit affluent. So I did a little searching. Assuming that Odessa is Odessa, Texas we can do a little research on that area. It seems that Ector County was part of the Texas oil boom, with a big strick in the area in 1926. Odessa became the shipping and oilfield supply center for the county's burgeoning petroleum boom. County lands produced almost 12,330,000 barrels of oil in 1938. In 1930 3,958 people lived in Ector County; the population increased to 15,051 in 1940. http://www.tshaonline.org/handbook/online/articles/hce02 Now let's turn our attention to auto dealerships in Odessa in the mid-30s. Today there exists a Sewell Ford in Odessa. Did it exist in the mid-30s? Yep! In fact, In 1935, (Sewell) sons Carl Sr. and Woody, purchased the the bankrupt Love Motor Company in Odessa. Located at 2nd Street Texas Avenue, Carl Sewell Motor sold half of their 22-vehicle inventory on opening day. New cars sold from $695 - $1,035. A new truck could be bought for $635. http://www.vancesnewsletter.com/sewell-ford-history.html Could this car be a 1935 Ford Sedan, purchased on that opening day in 1935? Let's take a look: http://goo.gl/UcR6RB Notice the horizontal bar going across the grill that, if extended, would go across the top portion of the headlights? It can be seen in Stan's family picture. Notice the shape of the bottom corners of the windshield (also a match). Notice the groove running through the middle of the front bumper? I'm guessing that we are looking at a 1935 Ford Sedan, purchased from Sewell Ford in Odessa, TX in 1935. http://www.carfolio.com/specifications/models/car/?car=118448 But that's just a guess. :) On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 3:32 PM, Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote: No others at this point. My Aunt has many of the photos from that era, but I don't have ready access. stan On Dec 19, 2013, at 3:37 PM, Paul Sorenson wrote: My first inclination was Ford, too. Any other pix that show the car any better? -p On 12/19/2013 2:19 PM, Zos Xavius wrote: It looks like a ford. Not much to go on here though. On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 1:55 PM, Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote: A cousin is working on family history stuff and recently came up with this photo of my father (15 yrs old at the time) and his siblings in 1937. The question is, what make/model was the family car? http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p155717848/e1babf2a8 Thanks! stan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Being old doesn't seem so old now that I'm old. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- I don't have a problem with idiots. I have a problem with the fact that they have an internet connection. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to
Re: OT: Old-car identification?
Dang, Darren! I was =really= impressed for about 43 seconds. Rick On Dec 19, 2013, at 7:15 PM, Stan Halpin wrote: Thanks Darren! Interesting sleuthing, but Odessa may have thrown you off the track. In fact we are dealing with Odessa NY, a burg of 300-500 people at the time. (Smaller now.) Nearest locales likely to have had dealerships (in rough order of distance) are: Montour Falls, Watkins Glen, Elmira, Corning, and Ithaca. My father's family were dairy farmers, and my grandfather was arguably the most successful and affluent farmer in that portion of what was and is New York State's poorest county. Big fish, small pond. He bought and leased quite a few acres from others who didn't have the resources to make it through the depression. On my mother's side, there was a long-standing preference for GM products. On my father's side, IIRC the tendency was for Chrysler. I hardly knew my grandfather, he died in the early '50s, but from the stories I've heard he was likely to go for a good deal, brand-loyalty be damned. Crank the above into your calculations and see what that produces... stan On Dec 19, 2013, at 6:37 PM, Darren Addy wrote: Well, I'll play Sherlock here. The lines of the car (we can't discount TRUCK, but the window shape of the open door suggests CAR to me) are definitely mid-30s. The photo was taken in 1937, which was essentially the close of the Depression. So a new car struck me a bit affluent. So I did a little searching. Assuming that Odessa is Odessa, Texas we can do a little research on that area. It seems that Ector County was part of the Texas oil boom, with a big strick in the area in 1926. Odessa became the shipping and oilfield supply center for the county's burgeoning petroleum boom. County lands produced almost 12,330,000 barrels of oil in 1938. In 1930 3,958 people lived in Ector County; the population increased to 15,051 in 1940. http://www.tshaonline.org/handbook/online/articles/hce02 Now let's turn our attention to auto dealerships in Odessa in the mid-30s. Today there exists a Sewell Ford in Odessa. Did it exist in the mid-30s? Yep! In fact, In 1935, (Sewell) sons Carl Sr. and Woody, purchased the the bankrupt Love Motor Company in Odessa. Located at 2nd Street Texas Avenue, Carl Sewell Motor sold half of their 22-vehicle inventory on opening day. New cars sold from $695 - $1,035. A new truck could be bought for $635. http://www.vancesnewsletter.com/sewell-ford-history.html Could this car be a 1935 Ford Sedan, purchased on that opening day in 1935? Let's take a look: http://goo.gl/UcR6RB Notice the horizontal bar going across the grill that, if extended, would go across the top portion of the headlights? It can be seen in Stan's family picture. Notice the shape of the bottom corners of the windshield (also a match). Notice the groove running through the middle of the front bumper? I'm guessing that we are looking at a 1935 Ford Sedan, purchased from Sewell Ford in Odessa, TX in 1935. http://www.carfolio.com/specifications/models/car/?car=118448 But that's just a guess. :) On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 3:32 PM, Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote: No others at this point. My Aunt has many of the photos from that era, but I don't have ready access. stan On Dec 19, 2013, at 3:37 PM, Paul Sorenson wrote: My first inclination was Ford, too. Any other pix that show the car any better? -p On 12/19/2013 2:19 PM, Zos Xavius wrote: It looks like a ford. Not much to go on here though. On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 1:55 PM, Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote: A cousin is working on family history stuff and recently came up with this photo of my father (15 yrs old at the time) and his siblings in 1937. The question is, what make/model was the family car? http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p155717848/e1babf2a8 Thanks! stan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Being old doesn't seem so old now that I'm old. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- I don't have a problem with idiots. I have a problem with the fact that they have an internet connection. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net
Re: OT: Old-car identification?
Thanks Collin, I think you've got it! stan On Dec 19, 2013, at 7:51 PM, Collin Brendemuehl wrote: I looked for features. It's got the 2 strips on the door and the vertical lined grille. Plus the horizontal bars across the grille, though only one is visible. The grille is also tall. Headlights in a similar position and the lower corners of the windshield round similarly. I first looked at the 36 Ford, but though the window and door matched the grille did not. http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:1936_Ford_Model_68_730_De_Luxe_Fordor _Touring_Sedan_dk.jpg So one year old and voila. I think this is it, or at worst a different variant of the same year. http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:1935_Ford_Model_48_730_De_Luxe_Fordor _Touring_Sedan_4M7628.jpg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
