Re: OT: Something I don't understand about windows
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Re: OT: Something I don't understand about windows
William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote: - Original Message - From: David J Brooks Subject: Re: OT: Something I don't understand about windows But you might have clicked End Task on the *wrong* task, and the dialogue is giving you a chance to save yourself from this grim fate. Mine end when ever they feel like it. The joy of Mac computers. The Joy of Macs Why does that remind me of something? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Something I don't understand about windows
From: Graydon On Wed, Jun 03, 2009 at 08:57:31PM -0400, John Sessoms scripsit: Why does Task Manager ask me if I want to end a task? If I hadn't wanted to end the task, I wouldn't have opened Task Manager in the first place, and I wouldn't have clicked on the End Task button. But you might have clicked End Task on the *wrong* task, and the dialogue is giving you a chance to save yourself from this grim fate. Quicktime player came out with a new update. After the update installed, the updater immediately began to look for NEW updates and wouldn't quit. Probably because I chose NOT to install itunes. I'm not sure why everyone loves Apple, since from my point of view they're as arrogantly inept as Microsoft. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 08:11:02AM -0400, John Sessoms scripsit: I'm not sure why everyone loves Apple, since from my point of view they're as arrogantly inept as Microsoft. They're differently arrogant. Also differently inept, which frequently matters. -- Graydon, who admits to not playing well with either. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: ..I merely lost everything that was installed on my computer... Mark! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: OT: Something I don't understand about windows
But you might have clicked End Task on the *wrong* task, and the dialogue is giving you a chance to save yourself from this grim fate. Mine end when ever they feel like it. The joy of Mac computers. The Joy of Macs Why does that remind me of something? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qabyy1fOjIg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Something I don't understand about windows
What the hell, you think you're using Unix or something? John Sessoms wrote: Why does Task Manager ask me if I want to end a task? If I hadn't wanted to end the task, I wouldn't have opened Task Manager in the first place, and I wouldn't have clicked on the End Task button. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -- The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with either eating or drinking; he can ruin himself with gambling. If he does he is certainly a damn fool, and he might possibly be a damned soul; but if he may not, he is not a free man any more than a dog. --G. K. Chesterton -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Something I don't understand about windows
John Sessoms wrote: Why does Task Manager ask me if I want to end a task? If I hadn't wanted to end the task, I wouldn't have opened Task Manager in the first place, and I wouldn't have clicked on the End Task button. Yesterday a DBA asked me if there was any way to recover a file that he did rm on a linux system. sometimes the Are you sure you want to do that? prompts are a good thing. :-) -- Christian http://404mohawknotfound.blogspot.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Something I don't understand about windows
On Thu, Jun 04, 2009 at 08:28:10AM -0400, Christian scripsit: John Sessoms wrote: Why does Task Manager ask me if I want to end a task? If I hadn't wanted to end the task, I wouldn't have opened Task Manager in the first place, and I wouldn't have clicked on the End Task button. Yesterday a DBA asked me if there was any way to recover a file that he did rm on a linux system. Strictly, there _is_ a way; it involves hex editors and inodes and it has to be really, really worth it, but there is a way. sometimes the Are you sure you want to do that? prompts are a good thing. :-) alias rm=rm -i Which is the usual linux distro default, and which I turn off because it makes me mightily annoyed. It might be the case that your DBA ought not to be able to turn it off. Generally, though, if it's important, it belongs in version control. -- Graydon -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Something I don't understand about windows
Graydon wrote: On Thu, Jun 04, 2009 at 08:28:10AM -0400, Christian scripsit: John Sessoms wrote: Why does Task Manager ask me if I want to end a task? If I hadn't wanted to end the task, I wouldn't have opened Task Manager in the first place, and I wouldn't have clicked on the End Task button. Yesterday a DBA asked me if there was any way to recover a file that he did rm on a linux system. Strictly, there _is_ a way; it involves hex editors and inodes and it has to be really, really worth it, but there is a way. and it only works if you quickly stop everything from writing which is never the case on a volitile database. alias rm=rm -i Which is the usual linux distro default, and which I turn off because it makes me mightily annoyed. It might be the case that your DBA ought not to be able to turn it off. Generally, though, if it's important, it belongs in version control. Yeah yeah yeah, but like you say it's annoying and was only the default in the last few years. anyway most of my guys use rm -f to avoid the annoying question. http://www.packetstormsecurity.org/unix-humor/100.things.sysadmin.says.html -- Christian http://404mohawknotfound.blogspot.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Something I don't understand about windows
On Thu, Jun 04, 2009 at 09:18:19AM -0400, Christian scripsit: Graydon wrote: On Thu, Jun 04, 2009 at 08:28:10AM -0400, Christian scripsit: John Sessoms wrote: Why does Task Manager ask me if I want to end a task? If I hadn't wanted to end the task, I wouldn't have opened Task Manager in the first place, and I wouldn't have clicked on the End Task button. Yesterday a DBA asked me if there was any way to recover a file that he did rm on a linux system. Strictly, there _is_ a way; it involves hex editors and inodes and it has to be really, really worth it, but there is a way. and it only works if you quickly stop everything from writing which is never the case on a volitile database. Well, true, but if the file can be got with rm, either the DBA has committed a first order, flogging grade atrocity and shot part of the database with a system command, or it's not actually *in* the DB. (And the pro recovery guys can do remarkable things even if it's run for awhile; that gets pricey, though.) alias rm=rm -i Which is the usual linux distro default, and which I turn off because it makes me mightily annoyed. It might be the case that your DBA ought not to be able to turn it off. Generally, though, if it's important, it belongs in version control. Yeah yeah yeah, but like you say it's annoying and was only the default in the last few years. Redhat 5 is the last few years? :) anyway most of my guys use rm -f to avoid the annoying question. Time to give them a special, lightly stunned version of rm? http://www.packetstormsecurity.org/unix-humor/100.things.sysadmin.says.html We don't know what's wrong. -- Graydon -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Something I don't understand about windows
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 9:15 PM, Graydon o...@uniserve.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 03, 2009 at 08:57:31PM -0400, John Sessoms scripsit: Why does Task Manager ask me if I want to end a task? If I hadn't wanted to end the task, I wouldn't have opened Task Manager in the first place, and I wouldn't have clicked on the End Task button. But you might have clicked End Task on the *wrong* task, and the dialogue is giving you a chance to save yourself from this grim fate. Mine end when ever they feel like it. Dave -- Graydon -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Something I don't understand about windows
- Original Message - From: David J Brooks Subject: Re: OT: Something I don't understand about windows But you might have clicked End Task on the *wrong* task, and the dialogue is giving you a chance to save yourself from this grim fate. Mine end when ever they feel like it. The joy of Mac computers. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Something I don't understand about windows
Well, to protect you from yourself... If you end the process and explode your system you may suit MS - of course you will lose and turn into a pauper. So your friend MS will ask you three times if you're sure of doing ANYTHING in your MS pee-cee. They know best. LF John Sessoms escreveu: Why does Task Manager ask me if I want to end a task? If I hadn't wanted to end the task, I wouldn't have opened Task Manager in the first place, and I wouldn't have clicked on the End Task button. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Luiz Felipe luiz.felipe at techmit.com.br http://techmit.com.br/luizfelipe/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Something I don't understand about windows
On 6/4/09, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote: - Original Message - From: David J Brooks Subject: Re: OT: Something I don't understand about windows But you might have clicked End Task on the *wrong* task, and the dialogue is giving you a chance to save yourself from this grim fate. Mine end when ever they feel like it. The joy of Mac computers. Obligatory. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qq25Rfj1KAA -- Scott Loveless Cigarette-free since December 14th, 2008 http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Something I don't understand about windows
On Jun 5, 2009, at 12:28 AM, Christian wrote: Yesterday a DBA asked me if there was any way to recover a file that he did rm on a linux system. sometimes the Are you sure you want to do that? prompts are a good thing. :-) We have such a prompt set up on our production system at work. If you're already really sure you can use rm -f instead. And when I do that I'm _very_ careful! Being a DBA I'm sure they know how much fun it is when you screw up a DELETE or UPDATE query... Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Warning, extreme geekage follows. If you don't speak bash, just skip it. On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 08:52:46AM +1200, David Mann wrote: On Jun 5, 2009, at 12:28 AM, Christian wrote: We have such a prompt set up on our production system at work. If you're already really sure you can use rm -f instead. And when I do that I'm _very_ careful! I don't remember the exact detaild, but in general, I was under a meet this deadline or be fired situation when I needed to delete everything in the foobar subdirectory and typed something like rm -rf foo[tab]* in / What I didn't notice until too late was that it expanded to rm -rf foobar/ * The good news is that it deleted the symlink I had set up to /home before it could get to my home directory, so I merely lost everything that was installed on my computer and didn't lose my home directory. -- The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post the wrong answer. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Something I don't understand about windows
On Jun 4, 2009, at 10:24 , Scott Loveless wrote: On 6/4/09, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote: - Original Message - From: David J Brooks Subject: Re: OT: Something I don't understand about windows But you might have clicked End Task on the *wrong* task, and the dialogue is giving you a chance to save yourself from this grim fate. Mine end when ever they feel like it. The joy of Mac computers. Obligatory. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qq25Rfj1KAA We Oblige http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpWeLKHbotYNR=1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQkwI9VaWRs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4FF_aT_mE8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNnX6XRQBec http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFCV5DeMxeQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bm7JH1FT_yMNR=1 Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com There is no off position to the genius switch. Genius can, however, be observed as insanity. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Something I don't understand about windows
On Wed, Jun 03, 2009 at 08:57:31PM -0400, John Sessoms scripsit: Why does Task Manager ask me if I want to end a task? If I hadn't wanted to end the task, I wouldn't have opened Task Manager in the first place, and I wouldn't have clicked on the End Task button. But you might have clicked End Task on the *wrong* task, and the dialogue is giving you a chance to save yourself from this grim fate. -- Graydon -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
