Re: OT -- Web Rant; because I won't join anywhere where it's appropriate...

2015-11-11 Thread steve harley 

On 2015-11-09 12:28 , P.J. Alling wrote:

[...]  and I kind of felt that since I'm
getting "free" content from websites that the least I could do is allow them
to display less annoying advertisements, that I ignore anyway, so the
proprietors could make some money.

Well enough was enough.  Poorly formed and formatted advertisements that put
my browser in an infinite hang drove me to it.  The A-holes that write such
lousy crapwear will kill the free internet if Government regulation doesn't
do it first.



a web iconoclast whom i've followed for many years, Dave Winer 
(scripting.com) has been tackling this issue and filtering the work of 
others; here is one of the best recent articles he has pointed me to:




excerpt:

> We experience the externalities of the attention economy in little drips, 
so we tend to describe them with words of mild bemusement like “annoying” or 
“distracting.” But this is a grave misreading of their nature. In the short 
term, distractions can keep us from doing the things we want to do. In the 
longer term, however, they can accumulate and keep us from living the lives 
we want to live, or, even worse, undermine our capacities for reflection and 
self-regulation, making it harder, in the words of Harry Frankfurt, to “want 
what we want to want.” Thus there are deep ethical implications lurking here 
for freedom, wellbeing, and even the integrity of the self




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Re: OT -- Web Rant; because I won't join anywhere where it's appropriate...

2015-11-10 Thread John 

I don't use ad blocker software as such, but I do have a hosts file that
redirects the likes of ad.doubleclick.net to 127.0.0.1 (aka perdition).
That along with NoScript have kept me insulated from worst of the
advertising abuses on the "free" internet without creating an undue
burden on my browser.


On 11/9/2015 11:21 PM, David Mann wrote:

Good on you.  I recently had to relent and install an ad blocker
because of one particularly annoying animated ad that just drove me
nuts.  I find it nearly impossible to read an article with all that
crap going on around the periphery.

Depending on the particular blocker you installed you may be able to
whitelist sites but many ads are driven by clicks rather than page
views so there may be little benefit.

Cheers, Dave


On Nov 10, 2015, at 8:28 AM, P.J. Alling
 wrote:

Rant on!

So you ever have a web page that just won't load, or only partially
loads?  Yea, happened for like the umpteenth time for me today.  A
web page I was trying to load was hanging downloading data from
Doubleclick.com.  It's not only that ad server sometimes it's
others.  Usually refreshing changes the advert it's trying to
download and the page will finally load.  This time, after numerous
failed attempts, I basically said screw it, and installed an ad
blocker for my browser.

I haven't done that on this machine because it's heavily
firewalled, (and of course has up to date virus protection), and
never uses "public" network connections, (it's a desktop, duh), and
I kind of felt that since I'm getting "free" content from websites
that the least I could do is allow them to display less annoying
advertisements, that I ignore anyway, so the proprietors could make
some money.

Well enough was enough.  Poorly formed and formatted advertisements
that put my browser in an infinite hang drove me to it.  The
A-holes that write such lousy crapwear will kill the free internet
if Government regulation doesn't do it first.

End of Rant.

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achieve immortality through not dying. -- Woody Allen




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Re: OT -- Web Rant; because I won't join anywhere where it's appropriate...

2015-11-09 Thread David Mann 
Good on you.  I recently had to relent and install an ad blocker because of one 
particularly annoying animated ad that just drove me nuts.  I find it nearly 
impossible to read an article with all that crap going on around the periphery.

Depending on the particular blocker you installed you may be able to whitelist 
sites but many ads are driven by clicks rather than page views so there may be 
little benefit.

Cheers,
Dave

> On Nov 10, 2015, at 8:28 AM, P.J. Alling  wrote:
> 
> Rant on!
> 
> So you ever have a web page that just won't load, or only partially loads?  
> Yea, happened for like the umpteenth time for me today.  A web page I was 
> trying to load was hanging downloading data from Doubleclick.com.  It's not 
> only that ad server sometimes it's others.  Usually refreshing changes the 
> advert it's trying to download and the page will finally load.  This time, 
> after numerous failed attempts, I basically said screw it, and installed an 
> ad blocker for my browser.
> 
> I haven't done that on this machine because it's heavily firewalled, (and of 
> course has up to date virus protection), and never uses "public" network 
> connections, (it's a desktop, duh), and I kind of felt that since I'm getting 
> "free" content from websites that the least I could do is allow them to 
> display less annoying advertisements, that I ignore anyway, so the 
> proprietors could make some money.
> 
> Well enough was enough.  Poorly formed and formatted advertisements that put 
> my browser in an infinite hang drove me to it.  The A-holes that write such 
> lousy crapwear will kill the free internet if Government regulation doesn't 
> do it first.
> 
> End of Rant.
> 
> -- 
> I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve 
> immortality through not dying.
> -- Woody Allen
> 
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