Re: Peso-Haute Hawk ll

[ann sanfedele]

Yeah I saw that post after I replied... I do think he looks less real as 
a result


a

On 12/9/2017 1:06 PM, Jack Davis wrote:

It's OK, Ann.
A short while ago I posted an email
in which I explained the hazy eyes.
I wanted the eyes to be a bit more
prominent so I lightened the dark
eye sockets. I assumed that was
causing doubt as to the reality of
it's being alive. HA!!
J
Sent from my iPhone


On Dec 9, 2017, at 9:27 AM, ann sanfedele  wrote:

I kinda was serious... because the photo was so very very sharp and you 
mentioned being hard
to fine in your bird book... since I was , myself, fooled by a faux owl , I 
thought it possible..
His eyes don't look quite real, which I guess is just the way the light was 
striking him. Glad
to hear he is a live'un  - it is a very nice shot

ann




On 12/9/2017 11:28 AM, Jack Davis wrote:
Don't know if you're serious, but in
case you are, I watched it sail in and
land on the pole in addition to
continuous head motion while I shot.

J

Sent from my iPhone


On Dec 9, 2017, at 8:13 AM, ann sanfedele  wrote:

Jack, I hate to say this, but unless you can confirm he got up and flew away I 
would say the
species is manmade...

ann


On 12/9/2017 8:13 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
Excellent!
On Dec 9, 2017, at 6:59 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:


Second view of Haute Hawk.
I can't find a definite match in my Bird Book.
Ann..Help! Alan feels it may be a Falcon.(?)

https://www.photo.net/photo/18442775

C? Thanks

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Re: Peso-Haute Hawk ll

[Jack Davis]

It's OK, Ann.
A short while ago I posted an email
in which I explained the hazy eyes.
I wanted the eyes to be a bit more
prominent so I lightened the dark
eye sockets. I assumed that was
causing doubt as to the reality of
it's being alive. HA!!
J
Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 9, 2017, at 9:27 AM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> I kinda was serious... because the photo was so very very sharp and you 
> mentioned being hard
> to fine in your bird book... since I was , myself, fooled by a faux owl , I 
> thought it possible..
> His eyes don't look quite real, which I guess is just the way the light was 
> striking him. Glad
> to hear he is a live'un  - it is a very nice shot
> 
> ann
> 
> 
> 
>> On 12/9/2017 11:28 AM, Jack Davis wrote:
>> Don't know if you're serious, but in
>> case you are, I watched it sail in and
>> land on the pole in addition to
>> continuous head motion while I shot.
>> 
>> J
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Dec 9, 2017, at 8:13 AM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Jack, I hate to say this, but unless you can confirm he got up and flew 
>>> away I would say the
>>> species is manmade...
>>> 
>>> ann
>>> 
> On 12/9/2017 8:13 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
> Excellent!
> On Dec 9, 2017, at 6:59 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:
> 
> 
> Second view of Haute Hawk.
> I can't find a definite match in my Bird Book.
> Ann..Help! Alan feels it may be a Falcon.(?)
> 
> https://www.photo.net/photo/18442775
> 
> C? Thanks
> 
> J
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Re: Peso-Haute Hawk ll

[ann sanfedele]

I kinda was serious... because the photo was so very very sharp and you 
mentioned being hard
to fine in your bird book... since I was , myself, fooled by a faux owl 
, I thought it possible..
His eyes don't look quite real, which I guess is just the way the light 
was striking him. Glad

to hear he is a live'un  - it is a very nice shot

ann



On 12/9/2017 11:28 AM, Jack Davis wrote:

Don't know if you're serious, but in
case you are, I watched it sail in and
land on the pole in addition to
continuous head motion while I shot.

J

Sent from my iPhone


On Dec 9, 2017, at 8:13 AM, ann sanfedele  wrote:

Jack, I hate to say this, but unless you can confirm he got up and flew away I 
would say the
species is manmade...

ann


On 12/9/2017 8:13 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
Excellent!

On Dec 9, 2017, at 6:59 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:


Second view of Haute Hawk.
I can't find a definite match in my Bird Book.
Ann..Help! Alan feels it may be a Falcon.(?)

https://www.photo.net/photo/18442775

C? Thanks

J


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Re: Peso-Haute Hawk ll

[Jack Davis]

If it's the hazy eyes you're looking
at, I lightened the dark eye sockets
to bring out the pupils. 

J

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> On Dec 9, 2017, at 8:13 AM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> Jack, I hate to say this, but unless you can confirm he got up and flew away 
> I would say the
> species is manmade...
> 
> ann
> 
>> On 12/9/2017 8:13 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
>> Excellent!
>>> On Dec 9, 2017, at 6:59 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Second view of Haute Hawk.
>>> I can't find a definite match in my Bird Book.
>>> Ann..Help! Alan feels it may be a Falcon.(?)
>>> 
>>> https://www.photo.net/photo/18442775
>>> 
>>> C? Thanks
>>> 
>>> J
>>> 
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Re: Peso-Haute Hawk ll

[Jack Davis]

Yes, Ferruginous you attached
looks likely.
The example in my field guide
is much darker. May be an issue
of age and/or gender.

J

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> On Dec 9, 2017, at 6:00 AM, Alan C  wrote:
> 
> That view shows it better. No a Falcon. Possibly a Ferruginous Hawk:
> 
> https://www.allaboutbirds.org/guide/Ferruginous_Hawk/id#
> 
> Alan C
> 
> -Original Message- From: Jack Davis
> Sent: 9 December, 2017 2:59 PM
> To: PDML
> Subject: Peso-Haute Hawk ll
> 
> 
> Second view of Haute Hawk.
> I can't find a definite match in my Bird Book.
> Ann..Help! Alan feels it may be a Falcon.(?)
> 
> https://www.photo.net/photo/18442775
> 
> C? Thanks
> 
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Re: Peso-Haute Hawk ll

[Jack Davis]

Don't know if you're serious, but in
case you are, I watched it sail in and 
land on the pole in addition to 
continuous head motion while I shot.

J

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 9, 2017, at 8:13 AM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> Jack, I hate to say this, but unless you can confirm he got up and flew away 
> I would say the
> species is manmade...
> 
> ann
> 
>> On 12/9/2017 8:13 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
>> Excellent!
>>> On Dec 9, 2017, at 6:59 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Second view of Haute Hawk.
>>> I can't find a definite match in my Bird Book.
>>> Ann..Help! Alan feels it may be a Falcon.(?)
>>> 
>>> https://www.photo.net/photo/18442775
>>> 
>>> C? Thanks
>>> 
>>> J
>>> 
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Re: Peso-Haute Hawk ll

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Boy, are you the sceptic!

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On Sat, Dec 9, 2017 at 11:13 AM, ann sanfedele  wrote:

> Jack, I hate to say this, but unless you can confirm he got up and flew
> away I would say the
> species is manmade...
>
> ann
>
> On 12/9/2017 8:13 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
>
>> Excellent!
>>
>>> On Dec 9, 2017, at 6:59 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Second view of Haute Hawk.
>>> I can't find a definite match in my Bird Book.
>>> Ann..Help! Alan feels it may be a Falcon.(?)
>>>
>>> https://www.photo.net/photo/18442775
>>>
>>> C? Thanks
>>>
>>> J
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Re: Peso-Haute Hawk ll

[ann sanfedele]

Jack, I hate to say this, but unless you can confirm he got up and flew 
away I would say the

species is manmade...

ann

On 12/9/2017 8:13 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

Excellent!

On Dec 9, 2017, at 6:59 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:


Second view of Haute Hawk.
I can't find a definite match in my Bird Book.
Ann..Help! Alan feels it may be a Falcon.(?)

https://www.photo.net/photo/18442775

C? Thanks

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Re: Peso-Haute Hawk ll

[John]

Just a SWAG, but I think "Ferruginous Hawk"; light morph.

On 12/9/2017 07:59, Jack Davis wrote:


Second view of Haute Hawk.
I can't find a definite match in my Bird Book.
Ann..Help! Alan feels it may be a Falcon.(?)

https://www.photo.net/photo/18442775

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Re: Peso-Haute Hawk ll

[Jack Davis]

Yes, the first one was to feature
the bazar expression.

J

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> On Dec 9, 2017, at 7:30 AM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> 
> Nevertheless, it is a fine image, that stands on its own.  I think I like
> it better than the first one.
> 
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>> On Sat, Dec 9, 2017 at 8:29 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks, Dan. I can appreciate your
>> suggestions to "clean up" the scene,
>> as was done with the original, but
>> this was for Alan's consideration in
>> determining whether it is a hawk or
>> falcon. I still say, "Hawk."
>> 
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Re: Peso-Haute Hawk ll

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Nevertheless, it is a fine image, that stands on its own.  I think I like
it better than the first one.


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On Sat, Dec 9, 2017 at 8:29 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:

> Thanks, Dan. I can appreciate your
> suggestions to "clean up" the scene,
> as was done with the original, but
> this was for Alan's consideration in
> determining whether it is a hawk or
> falcon. I still say, "Hawk."
>
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Re: Peso-Haute Hawk ll

[Jack Davis]

I'll continue to hope for positive
identification. Maybe Ann's library
of bird books will eventually settle
the question..(?)

J

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> On Dec 9, 2017, at 6:00 AM, Alan C  wrote:
> 
> That view shows it better. No a Falcon. Possibly a Ferruginous Hawk:
> 
> https://www.allaboutbirds.org/guide/Ferruginous_Hawk/id#
> 
> Alan C
> 
> -Original Message- From: Jack Davis
> Sent: 9 December, 2017 2:59 PM
> To: PDML
> Subject: Peso-Haute Hawk ll
> 
> 
> Second view of Haute Hawk.
> I can't find a definite match in my Bird Book.
> Ann..Help! Alan feels it may be a Falcon.(?)
> 
> https://www.photo.net/photo/18442775
> 
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Re: Peso-Haute Hawk ll

[Alan C]

That view shows it better. No a Falcon. Possibly a Ferruginous Hawk:

https://www.allaboutbirds.org/guide/Ferruginous_Hawk/id#

Alan C

-Original Message- 
From: Jack Davis

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Subject: Peso-Haute Hawk ll


Second view of Haute Hawk.
I can't find a definite match in my Bird Book.
Ann..Help! Alan feels it may be a Falcon.(?)

https://www.photo.net/photo/18442775

C? Thanks

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Re: Peso-Haute Hawk ll

[Jack Davis]

Thanks, Dan. I can appreciate your
suggestions to "clean up" the scene,
as was done with the original, but
this was for Alan's consideration in
determining whether it is a hawk or
falcon. I still say, "Hawk."

J

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 9, 2017, at 5:05 AM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> 
> Boy, he is staring you down there!
> 
> I like the bird's pose, the overall composition, the details in the bird
> and the pole, and the stark blue sky.  The wood, insulator and wiring on
> the upper right add to the scene, IMO, but the OoF wires and hardware on
> the left side are a bit distracting.  Cloning them out might improve the
> image somewhat, although it certainly works the way it is.
> 
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>> On Sat, Dec 9, 2017 at 7:59 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Second view of Haute Hawk.
>> I can't find a definite match in my Bird Book.
>> Ann..Help! Alan feels it may be a Falcon.(?)
>> 
>> https://www.photo.net/photo/18442775
>> 
>> C? Thanks
>> 
>> J
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Re: Peso-Haute Hawk ll

[Jack Davis]

Generous, Paul! Thanks!!

J

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> On Dec 9, 2017, at 5:13 AM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> 
> Excellent!
>> On Dec 9, 2017, at 6:59 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Second view of Haute Hawk.
>> I can't find a definite match in my Bird Book.
>> Ann..Help! Alan feels it may be a Falcon.(?)
>> 
>> https://www.photo.net/photo/18442775
>> 
>> C? Thanks
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Re: Peso-Haute Hawk ll

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Excellent!
> On Dec 9, 2017, at 6:59 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:
> 
> 
> Second view of Haute Hawk.
> I can't find a definite match in my Bird Book.
> Ann..Help! Alan feels it may be a Falcon.(?)
> 
> https://www.photo.net/photo/18442775
> 
> C? Thanks
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Re: Peso-Haute Hawk ll

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Boy, he is staring you down there!

I like the bird's pose, the overall composition, the details in the bird
and the pole, and the stark blue sky.  The wood, insulator and wiring on
the upper right add to the scene, IMO, but the OoF wires and hardware on
the left side are a bit distracting.  Cloning them out might improve the
image somewhat, although it certainly works the way it is.


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>
> Second view of Haute Hawk.
> I can't find a definite match in my Bird Book.
> Ann..Help! Alan feels it may be a Falcon.(?)
>
> https://www.photo.net/photo/18442775
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