RE: Question re GPS and geotagging

2009-10-18 Thread Stig Vidar
Glad to hear that someone find it useful.


Stig Vidar Hovland




  Mobile phones with GPS are rather cheap today (
 http://www.dustinhome.no/pd_5010198934.aspx ) and can run car navigation
 software, terrain nav. software or simple GPX loggers. I did this on our
 trip to London and my phone was able to log continously for 10 hours and
 using 60% of the battery. Can send you the files for the Saturday if you
 want them.

 Stig I should thank you again, I've been using the modified logger and
 it works great!

 Cheers,

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Re: Question re GPS and geotagging

2009-10-18 Thread AlunFoto
Stig,
Sorry about late reply. Thanks for the offer on the GPS log files, but
in case of Greenwich I think I have pretty good control on the
placenames. :-)

I wasn't aware that GPS enabled cellphones were that cheap now. Thanks
for the tip! Makes me regret buying the GlobalSat unit since my old
phone is falling apart. :-(

Did a test run today of the GlobalSat today, btw, with subsequent
computer uploading and matching. I used GeoSetter to merge the GPS
data (from a *.gpx file) into the DNG files, and Lightroom assimilated
the new metadata without glitch.

But I still have the tiniest tinge of envy of the Nikon GPS that
attaches directly to camera and writes into the raw files directly.

Jostein

2009/10/16 SV Hovland p...@heime.org:
 Yes, looks nice. One important feature is the AA batteries. Li-Ion batteries 
 are usually dead after a few years and next to impossible to replace on a 
 unit which was out of production several years ago.

 Mobile phones with GPS are rather cheap today ( 
 http://www.dustinhome.no/pd_5010198934.aspx ) and can run car navigation 
 software, terrain nav. software or simple GPX loggers. I did this on our trip 
 to London and my phone was able to log continously for 10 hours and using 60% 
 of the battery. Can send you the files for the Saturday if you want them.

 Stig Vidar


 
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 Emne: Re: Question re GPS and geotagging

 2009/10/14 Bob W p...@web-options.com:
 I hope the GPS you've ordered has bigger buttons than mine!

 :-)

 This is the thingy:
 http://www.globalsat.com.tw/eng/product_detail_0090.htm

 I hope it's going to be as simple as set and forget for each time we
 make landfall.

 Jostein


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Re: Question re GPS and geotagging

2009-10-18 Thread Doug Brewer

Stan Halpin wrote:
Aha! Blinding flash of the obvious!  Thanks Ken. I am very undisciplined 
about taking notes. But my iPhone does have a voice-notes feature that I 
might be able to remember to use.


Thanks all for your various high and low tech suggestions.

stan


Stan, search the app store for PhotoNotes. It got an honorable mention 
on Gizmodo, and looks to be useful. Voice recording is said to be upcoming.


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Re: Question re GPS and geotagging

2009-10-17 Thread Rob Studdert
On 16/10/2009, SV Hovland p...@heime.org wrote:

 Mobile phones with GPS are rather cheap today ( 
 http://www.dustinhome.no/pd_5010198934.aspx ) and can run car navigation 
 software, terrain nav. software or simple GPX loggers. I did this on our trip 
 to London and my phone was able to log continously for 10 hours and using 60% 
 of the battery. Can send you the files for the Saturday if you want them.

Stig I should thank you again, I've been using the modified logger and
it works great!

Cheers,

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Re: Question re GPS and geotagging

2009-10-16 Thread SV Hovland
Yes, looks nice. One important feature is the AA batteries. Li-Ion batteries 
are usually dead after a few years and next to impossible to replace on a unit 
which was out of production several years ago.

Mobile phones with GPS are rather cheap today ( 
http://www.dustinhome.no/pd_5010198934.aspx ) and can run car navigation 
software, terrain nav. software or simple GPX loggers. I did this on our trip 
to London and my phone was able to log continously for 10 hours and using 60% 
of the battery. Can send you the files for the Saturday if you want them.

Stig Vidar



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2009/10/14 Bob W p...@web-options.com:
 I hope the GPS you've ordered has bigger buttons than mine!

:-)

This is the thingy:
http://www.globalsat.com.tw/eng/product_detail_0090.htm

I hope it's going to be as simple as set and forget for each time we
make landfall.

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Re: Question re GPS and geotagging

2009-10-15 Thread AlunFoto
2009/10/14 Bob W p...@web-options.com:
 I hope the GPS you've ordered has bigger buttons than mine!

:-)

This is the thingy:
http://www.globalsat.com.tw/eng/product_detail_0090.htm

I hope it's going to be as simple as set and forget for each time we
make landfall.

Jostein


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RE: Question re GPS and geotagging

2009-10-15 Thread Bob W
  I hope the GPS you've ordered has bigger buttons than mine!
 
 :-)
 
 This is the thingy:
 http://www.globalsat.com.tw/eng/product_detail_0090.htm
 
 I hope it's going to be as simple as set and forget for 
 each time we make landfall.
 
 Jostein

It looks ideal - nice and simple. I'd like to go to Antarctica.

Bob


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Re: Question re GPS and geotagging

2009-10-15 Thread Graydon
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 11:07:01AM +0200, AlunFoto scripsit:
[snip] 
 This is the thingy:
 http://www.globalsat.com.tw/eng/product_detail_0090.htm
 
 I hope it's going to be as simple as set and forget for each time we
 make landfall.

That's, alas, right up there with Oh, I'm sure it won't rain, Hey,
Bubba, hold my beer, and Oh, I'm sure they'll be fine for a minute as
statements of ill omen.

So I'm looking forward to the resultant story or stories; just make sure
you're not the one eaten by the pack of crazed penguins.

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Re: Question re GPS and geotagging

2009-10-15 Thread Bob Sullivan
OMG is that public knowledge now?
I thought they had a press embargo on it.

On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 6:11 PM, Graydon o...@uniserve.com wrote:
 [snip]
 So I'm looking forward to the resultant story or stories; just make sure
 you're not the one eaten by the pack of crazed penguins.

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Re: Question re GPS and geotagging

2009-10-14 Thread mike wilson

 Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote: 
 Aha! Blinding flash of the obvious!  Thanks Ken. I am very  
 undisciplined about taking notes. But my iPhone does have a voice- 
 notes feature that I might be able to remember to use.
voice of experience
Don't bother on a windy day.
/voice of experience

 
 Thanks all for your various high and low tech suggestions.
 
 stan
 
 On Oct 13, 2009, at 10:42 AM, Ken Waller wrote:
 
 
  Kenneth Waller
  http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f
 
  - Original Message - From: Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com 
  
  Subject: Re: Question re GPS and geotagging
 
 
  Bob W wrote:
  I thought it would be nice to be able to capture coordinates and  
  roll them into the exif files so that I could look at an image in  
  LR and see where it was shot. [This notion is based on my  
  frustration in sorting through images I had taken in Northern  
  Italy: now in which small fishing village was this harbor shot  
  taken?]
 
  You could always do it the old-fashioned way and write it down in a
  notebook.
  Precisely how I do it!
 
  Or mumble into a pocket recorder.
 
 
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Re: Question re GPS and geotagging

2009-10-14 Thread AlunFoto
2009/10/13 Bob W p...@web-options.com:

 You could always do it the old-fashioned way and write it down in a
 notebook.

Excuse me sir, D'you know the name of this place, and that mountain
over there?

Works well most of the time, I agree. My case for buying a GPS logger
(it's in the mail as I write, been back-ordered since about the time
this thread started) is the trip to Antarctica. There are
comparatively few official names on geographical features on that
continent.

The UK Antarctic Survey has a comprehensive list of suggested names
online, however biased towards English speaking explorers' naming.
It's a decent service anyway, though, as it usually lists any known
naming controversies. So, if one has a GPS location, one can look up
the point in the UK service database when back home, and get a more
decent set of references than any available on one particular map. For
this case a GPS beats a pen and notebook, gloved hands down. :-)

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Re: Question re GPS and geotagging

2009-10-14 Thread Ken Waller

I'd bet the crew would have a name for the places you'll visit,

Kenneth Waller
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Subject: Re: Question re GPS and geotagging



2009/10/13 Bob W p...@web-options.com:


You could always do it the old-fashioned way and write it down in a
notebook.


Excuse me sir, D'you know the name of this place, and that mountain
over there?

Works well most of the time, I agree. My case for buying a GPS logger
(it's in the mail as I write, been back-ordered since about the time
this thread started) is the trip to Antarctica. There are
comparatively few official names on geographical features on that
continent.

The UK Antarctic Survey has a comprehensive list of suggested names
online, however biased towards English speaking explorers' naming.
It's a decent service anyway, though, as it usually lists any known
naming controversies. So, if one has a GPS location, one can look up
the point in the UK service database when back home, and get a more
decent set of references than any available on one particular map. For
this case a GPS beats a pen and notebook, gloved hands down. :-)

Jostein



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Re: Question re GPS and geotagging

2009-10-14 Thread AlunFoto
2009/10/14 Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com:
 I'd bet the crew would have a name for the places you'll visit,

Likely.

But few photos are taken from the bridge.

Jostein

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Re: Question re GPS and geotagging

2009-10-14 Thread Ken Waller

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Subject: Re: Question re GPS and geotagging



2009/10/14 Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com:

I'd bet the crew would have a name for the places you'll visit,


Likely.

But few photos are taken from the bridge.


If I were paying the kind of money these trips cost, I'd sure as hell expect 
to have some on board resource to

identify  discuss what will be seen.

Cheeseman's www.cheesemans.com/a_south_georgia_oct09.html  have several 
onboard pro photographers  naturalists that are resources for the tourist  
photographers.





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RE: Question re GPS and geotagging

2009-10-14 Thread Bob W
 
  You could always do it the old-fashioned way and write it down in a 
  notebook.
 
 Excuse me sir, D'you know the name of this place, and that 
 mountain over there?
 

I should think any traveller knows where he is at any given time in this day
and age, with the possible exception of Antarctica or PNG or similar places.
Even there I can't imagine you would be going in without a map, an itinerary
and the skills to use them.

 Works well most of the time, I agree. My case for buying a 
 GPS logger (it's in the mail as I write, been back-ordered 
 since about the time this thread started) is the trip to 
 Antarctica. There are comparatively few official names on 
 geographical features on that continent.
 

I can understand the need for a GPS in a case like this.

 The UK Antarctic Survey has a comprehensive list of suggested 
 names online, however biased towards English speaking 
 explorers' naming.
 It's a decent service anyway, though, as it usually lists any 
 known naming controversies. So, if one has a GPS location, 
 one can look up the point in the UK service database when 
 back home, and get a more decent set of references than any 
 available on one particular map. For this case a GPS beats a 
 pen and notebook, gloved hands down. :-)

I hope the GPS you've ordered has bigger buttons than mine!



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RE: Question re GPS and geotagging

2009-10-13 Thread Bob W
 I thought it 
 would be nice to be able to capture coordinates and roll them 
 into the exif files so that I could look at an image in LR 
 and see where it was shot. [This notion is based on my 
 frustration in sorting through images I had taken in Northern 
 Italy: now in which small fishing village was this harbor shot taken?]
 

You could always do it the old-fashioned way and write it down in a
notebook.

[...]
 I could find no way on my Mac or a borrowed PC to change the 
 basemap, I found no resources for a base map of Costa Rica. I 
 generated some log files but had no way to export them to my 
 Mac. 

Why do you need a basemap in the GPS itself? I have a very basic Garmin
eTrex H which doesn't support basemaps. To plot routes I use Gmap Pedometer,
which is web-based and free. I load the the routes onto the GPS using
EasyGPS, which is basic and free. When you have been somewhere with the GPS
switched on you can download the tracks as .gpx files and use ExpertGPS to
plot the tracks on Google Maps. ExpertGPS is the more sophisticated
paid-for-but-still-very-cheap version of EasyGPS. Not sure if it supports
Mac - have a dig around: http://www.topografix.com/.

 I sold the Garmin on eBay at a small loss, bought a 
 notebook and pen. 

Aha!

[...]

 roadmaps and topo maps so I don't really need a GPS except 
 when traveling out of the country, and then more for this 
 sort of record keeping than for route finding.

I'm no expert on these things, but I think you can use even the simplest of
GPSes to record you current location and export it as noted above. Google
tells me that there is a program for Macs called GPSBabel which you can use
to export tracks from a GPS.

 But as Doug 
 noted, if one needs to have yet another battery enabled 
 device, it might as well serve multiple purposes.
 
 Can any of you tell me if there is a unit/system that meets 
 the following critera?
 a. Mac compatible software for the GPS management b. Handheld 
 unit c. Simple changeout of the relevant basemap for a region 
 d. Availability of reasonably detailed basemaps for most/all 
 regions of the world.
 e. Simple export of log files.
 f. Reasonable accuracy, quick startup and signal acquisition 
 g. At least 16-hour battery life or easily interchangeable 
 batteries h. Simple (Mac compatible) software to synch log 
 files with exif data.
 
 Oh, and of course low cost.
 

There's the rub... Basemaps alone are hideously expensive. When I was
playing around before buying my GPS I used a number of free trial maps, and
was deeply unimpressed by them, and found the online resources much more
useable and useful.

I did note that the Satmap Active10 has a very good reputation, but it is
very expensive.
http://www.stanfords.co.uk/stock/satmap-active10-162665/

I'm coming to the conclusion that GPSes are becoming another of the devices
that seem like a good idea, but just end up overcomplicating our lives. For
me the eTrex H is ideal. I can fit it to the handlebars of my bike so I
don't have to keep getting off to check a map; it will tell me where I am if
I'm lost, and where I've been when I find myself again, and if I really need
that much accuracy on my photos I can probably find some freeware to match
the tracks against the exif data.

This page includes some links to software that links GPS tracks and exif
data:
http://macdevcenter.com/pub/a/mac/2004/06/15/gps_photo.html

However, is that much accuracy really necessary? GPS locations on the UK
grid are to 10 places, which is theoretically accurate to about a 1-metre
square, I think, but since the allowable variance on the device is well
outside that you're not really going to be able to trust the reference to
that level. If you're a scientist plotting the position of rare orchids that
you're photographing you're probably not going to be more accurate than a
few square metres anyway. So if it's just a means of remembering which
fishing village you were in on a given date, isn't this all overkill anyway?

  
 stan


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Re: Question re GPS and geotagging

2009-10-13 Thread Mark Roberts
Bob W wrote:

 I thought it 
 would be nice to be able to capture coordinates and roll them 
 into the exif files so that I could look at an image in LR 
 and see where it was shot. [This notion is based on my 
 frustration in sorting through images I had taken in Northern 
 Italy: now in which small fishing village was this harbor shot taken?]

You could always do it the old-fashioned way and write it down in a
notebook.

Precisely how I do it!


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Re: Question re GPS and geotagging

2009-10-13 Thread Ken Waller


Kenneth Waller
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Subject: Re: Question re GPS and geotagging



Bob W wrote:

I thought it 
would be nice to be able to capture coordinates and roll them 
into the exif files so that I could look at an image in LR 
and see where it was shot. [This notion is based on my 
frustration in sorting through images I had taken in Northern 
Italy: now in which small fishing village was this harbor shot taken?]


You could always do it the old-fashioned way and write it down in a
notebook.


Precisely how I do it!


Or mumble into a pocket recorder.


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Re: Question re GPS and geotagging

2009-10-13 Thread Cotty
On 13/10/09, Ken Waller, discombobulated, unleashed:

Or mumble into a pocket recorder.

When I used the 1DmII I used to use the audio recording facility
sometimes - up to 30 seconds per shot.

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Re: Question re GPS and geotagging

2009-10-13 Thread Stan Halpin
Aha! Blinding flash of the obvious!  Thanks Ken. I am very  
undisciplined about taking notes. But my iPhone does have a voice- 
notes feature that I might be able to remember to use.


Thanks all for your various high and low tech suggestions.

stan

On Oct 13, 2009, at 10:42 AM, Ken Waller wrote:



Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - From: Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com 


Subject: Re: Question re GPS and geotagging



Bob W wrote:
I thought it would be nice to be able to capture coordinates and  
roll them into the exif files so that I could look at an image in  
LR and see where it was shot. [This notion is based on my  
frustration in sorting through images I had taken in Northern  
Italy: now in which small fishing village was this harbor shot  
taken?]


You could always do it the old-fashioned way and write it down in a
notebook.

Precisely how I do it!


Or mumble into a pocket recorder.


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