Re: World's worst photo tutorial

[P.J. Alling]

On 10/31/2015 4:49 PM, John wrote:

On 10/31/2015 4:01 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

John wrote:


On 10/30/2015 9:41 PM, P.J. Alling wrote:

On 10/30/2015 7:00 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

John wrote:


On 10/30/2015 4:05 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

Jack Davis wrote:


From: "Mark Roberts" 

If you want to learn how to do over-the-top HDR nature photos 
(hey, I

said IF!) then this page... won't help much:
http://camerapixo.com/resources/10-step-processing-technique

Every step is so vague and general that it tells you nothing, 
but my

favorite one is step 9, which reminds me of this old New Yorker
cartoon: http://tinyurl.com/phae39r

Painfully inept work!
Someone posted a link to it on Facebook. I literally thought it 
was a

joke at first.
It looks like some kind of millennial vanity press. If you don't 
know
how to make a Blurb book of your own, you can pay these guys to 
do it

for you.

Also, send them $99 & they'll send you "Press Credentials".

Indeed. I hadn't bothered looking at the rest of the site but you
appear to have got the gist of it.


Well crap, I can make my own press credentials, I was forced to for a
paper I worked for at one time.  No one ever questioned them.


But consider... would someone SO CLUELESS they can't even figure out 
how

to make a Blurb book for themselves be able to make them?


Ah, I see now! It's a Dunning-Kruger-based marketing strategy!




Could be. But is marketing the result of Dunning-Kruger or are
Dunning-Kruger individuals the target market segment?



I get the feeling that Dunning-Kruger couldn't be being used as a 
marketing strategy, because someone here seems to realize that they 
don't have any skills.


However it does seem to be a particularly "small con" Diploma mill. 
Press credentials not issued by the venue you're attempting to 
photograph in are particularly useless even if issued by a legitimate 
news organization.


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Re: World's worst photo tutorial

[John]

On 11/1/2015 12:02 PM, P.J. Alling wrote:

On 10/31/2015 4:49 PM, John wrote:

On 10/31/2015 4:01 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

John wrote:


On 10/30/2015 9:41 PM, P.J. Alling wrote:

On 10/30/2015 7:00 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

John wrote:


On 10/30/2015 4:05 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

Jack Davis wrote:


From: "Mark Roberts" 

If you want to learn how to do over-the-top HDR nature photos
(hey, I
said IF!) then this page... won't help much:
http://camerapixo.com/resources/10-step-processing-technique

Every step is so vague and general that it tells you nothing,
but my
favorite one is step 9, which reminds me of this old New Yorker
cartoon: http://tinyurl.com/phae39r

Painfully inept work!

Someone posted a link to it on Facebook. I literally thought it
was a
joke at first.

It looks like some kind of millennial vanity press. If you don't
know
how to make a Blurb book of your own, you can pay these guys to
do it
for you.

Also, send them $99 & they'll send you "Press Credentials".

Indeed. I hadn't bothered looking at the rest of the site but you
appear to have got the gist of it.


Well crap, I can make my own press credentials, I was forced to for a
paper I worked for at one time.  No one ever questioned them.


But consider... would someone SO CLUELESS they can't even figure out
how
to make a Blurb book for themselves be able to make them?


Ah, I see now! It's a Dunning-Kruger-based marketing strategy!




Could be. But is marketing the result of Dunning-Kruger or are
Dunning-Kruger individuals the target market segment?



I get the feeling that Dunning-Kruger couldn't be being used as a
marketing strategy, because someone here seems to realize that they
don't have any skills.

However it does seem to be a particularly "small con" Diploma mill.
Press credentials not issued by the venue you're attempting to
photograph in are particularly useless even if issued by a legitimate
news organization.



Not everyone who wants to be a "photojournalist" can actually find a
J-O-B with a real newspaper. These pseudo-press organization
"credentials" are for the purchaser to use to try to finagle credentials
from a venue.

Dunning-Kruger comes into play because they're aimed at those on the
margins whose skills are too lame to DIY them.


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Re: World's worst photo tutorial

[Mark Roberts]

Larry Colen wrote:

>Mark Roberts wrote:
>> Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
>>
>>> I LOVE that cartoon!
>>
>>> http://tinyurl.com/phae39r
>>
>>   It's a classic, eh? It's a favorite among scientists, too.
>>
>> BTW, that "tutorial" bugged me so much I blogged about it:
>> http://www.robertstech.com/blog/?p=1789
>
>You didn't even comment that everything he says to do in photoshop can 
>be done in lightroom.

Good point. I'll add that.
 
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Re: World's worst photo tutorial

[Bob W-PDML]

On 31 Oct 2015, at 01:46, P.J. Alling  wrote:
> 
>> On 10/30/2015 7:00 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:
>> John wrote:
>> 
 [...]
>>> 
>>> Also, send them $99 & they'll send you "Press Credentials".
>> Indeed. I hadn't bothered looking at the rest of the site but you
>> appear to have got the gist of it.
> 
> Well crap, I can make my own press credentials, I was forced to for a paper I 
> worked for at one time.  No one ever questioned them.
> 

Why stick at a press card? Go the whole hog and be an officer of the law. When 
I was in Bucharest a few years ago someone tried to arrest me and confiscate my 
cameras, using a plastic Sheriff badge as credentials.

B
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Re: World's worst photo tutorial

[P.J. Alling]

That whole badge thing is a bit hard to swing in any civilized place.  I 
have been mistaken for a Cop once or twice, but only once to my distinct 
advantage.


On 10/31/2015 4:36 AM, Bob W-PDML wrote:

On 31 Oct 2015, at 01:46, P.J. Alling  wrote:

On 10/30/2015 7:00 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:
John wrote:


[...]

Also, send them $99 & they'll send you "Press Credentials".

Indeed. I hadn't bothered looking at the rest of the site but you
appear to have got the gist of it.

Well crap, I can make my own press credentials, I was forced to for a paper I 
worked for at one time.  No one ever questioned them.


Why stick at a press card? Go the whole hog and be an officer of the law. When 
I was in Bucharest a few years ago someone tried to arrest me and confiscate my 
cameras, using a plastic Sheriff badge as credentials.

B



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Re: World's worst photo tutorial

[John]

On 10/30/2015 9:41 PM, P.J. Alling wrote:

On 10/30/2015 7:00 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

John wrote:


On 10/30/2015 4:05 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

Jack Davis wrote:


From: "Mark Roberts" 

If you want to learn how to do over-the-top HDR nature photos (hey, I
said IF!) then this page... won't help much:
http://camerapixo.com/resources/10-step-processing-technique

Every step is so vague and general that it tells you nothing, but my
favorite one is step 9, which reminds me of this old New Yorker
cartoon: http://tinyurl.com/phae39r

Painfully inept work!

Someone posted a link to it on Facebook. I literally thought it was a
joke at first.

It looks like some kind of millennial vanity press. If you don't know
how to make a Blurb book of your own, you can pay these guys to do it
for you.

Also, send them $99 & they'll send you "Press Credentials".

Indeed. I hadn't bothered looking at the rest of the site but you
appear to have got the gist of it.



Well crap, I can make my own press credentials, I was forced to for a
paper I worked for at one time.  No one ever questioned them.



But consider... would someone SO CLUELESS they can't even figure out how
to make a Blurb book for themselves be able to make them?


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Re: World's worst photo tutorial

[John]

On 10/31/2015 4:01 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

John wrote:


On 10/30/2015 9:41 PM, P.J. Alling wrote:

On 10/30/2015 7:00 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

John wrote:


On 10/30/2015 4:05 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

Jack Davis wrote:


From: "Mark Roberts" 

If you want to learn how to do over-the-top HDR nature photos (hey, I
said IF!) then this page... won't help much:
http://camerapixo.com/resources/10-step-processing-technique

Every step is so vague and general that it tells you nothing, but my
favorite one is step 9, which reminds me of this old New Yorker
cartoon: http://tinyurl.com/phae39r

Painfully inept work!

Someone posted a link to it on Facebook. I literally thought it was a
joke at first.

It looks like some kind of millennial vanity press. If you don't know
how to make a Blurb book of your own, you can pay these guys to do it
for you.

Also, send them $99 & they'll send you "Press Credentials".

Indeed. I hadn't bothered looking at the rest of the site but you
appear to have got the gist of it.


Well crap, I can make my own press credentials, I was forced to for a
paper I worked for at one time.  No one ever questioned them.


But consider... would someone SO CLUELESS they can't even figure out how
to make a Blurb book for themselves be able to make them?


Ah, I see now! It's a Dunning-Kruger-based marketing strategy!




Could be. But is marketing the result of Dunning-Kruger or are
Dunning-Kruger individuals the target market segment?

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Re: World's worst photo tutorial

[Mark Roberts]

John wrote:

>On 10/30/2015 9:41 PM, P.J. Alling wrote:
>> On 10/30/2015 7:00 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:
>>> John wrote:
>>>
 On 10/30/2015 4:05 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:
> Jack Davis wrote:
>
>> From: "Mark Roberts" 
>>
>> If you want to learn how to do over-the-top HDR nature photos (hey, I
>> said IF!) then this page... won't help much:
>> http://camerapixo.com/resources/10-step-processing-technique
>>
>> Every step is so vague and general that it tells you nothing, but my
>> favorite one is step 9, which reminds me of this old New Yorker
>> cartoon: http://tinyurl.com/phae39r
>>
>> Painfully inept work!
> Someone posted a link to it on Facebook. I literally thought it was a
> joke at first.
 It looks like some kind of millennial vanity press. If you don't know
 how to make a Blurb book of your own, you can pay these guys to do it
 for you.

 Also, send them $99 & they'll send you "Press Credentials".
>>> Indeed. I hadn't bothered looking at the rest of the site but you
>>> appear to have got the gist of it.
>>
>> Well crap, I can make my own press credentials, I was forced to for a
>> paper I worked for at one time.  No one ever questioned them.
>
>But consider... would someone SO CLUELESS they can't even figure out how
>to make a Blurb book for themselves be able to make them?

Ah, I see now! It's a Dunning-Kruger-based marketing strategy!
 
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Re: World's worst photo tutorial

[John]

On 10/30/2015 4:05 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

Jack Davis wrote:


From: "Mark Roberts" 

If you want to learn how to do over-the-top HDR nature photos (hey, I
said IF!) then this page... won't help much:
http://camerapixo.com/resources/10-step-processing-technique

Every step is so vague and general that it tells you nothing, but my
favorite one is step 9, which reminds me of this old New Yorker
cartoon: http://tinyurl.com/phae39r

Painfully inept work!


Someone posted a link to it on Facebook. I literally thought it was a
joke at first.




It looks like some kind of millennial vanity press. If you don't know
how to make a Blurb book of your own, you can pay these guys to do it
for you.

Also, send them $99 & they'll send you "Press Credentials".


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Re: World's worst photo tutorial

[Bill]

On 10/30/2015 1:55 PM, Jack Davis wrote:

Painfully inept work!


Proof positive that if mommy will pay for your internet connection, you 
can put fucked up crap on the internet.


J

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From: "Mark Roberts" 
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 11:55:43 AM
Subject: World's worst photo tutorial

If you want to learn how to do over-the-top HDR nature photos (hey, I
said IF!) then this page... won't help much:
http://camerapixo.com/resources/10-step-processing-technique

Every step is so vague and general that it tells you nothing, but my
favorite one is step 9, which reminds me of this old New Yorker
cartoon: http://tinyurl.com/phae39r





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Re: World's worst photo tutorial

[Brian Walters]

On Sat, Oct 31, 2015, at 09:39 AM, John wrote:
> On 10/30/2015 4:05 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:
> > Jack Davis wrote:
> >
> >> From: "Mark Roberts" 
> >>
> >> If you want to learn how to do over-the-top HDR nature photos (hey, I
> >> said IF!) then this page... won't help much:
> >> http://camerapixo.com/resources/10-step-processing-technique
> >>
> >> Every step is so vague and general that it tells you nothing, but my
> >> favorite one is step 9, which reminds me of this old New Yorker
> >> cartoon: http://tinyurl.com/phae39r
> >>
> >> Painfully inept work!
> >
> > Someone posted a link to it on Facebook. I literally thought it was a
> > joke at first.
> >
> >
> 
> It looks like some kind of millennial vanity press. If you don't know
> how to make a Blurb book of your own, you can pay these guys to do it
> for you.
> 
> Also, send them $99 & they'll send you "Press Credentials".


Bummer, it's $110 if you live in Australia.  At first I thought that
might be due to the exchange rate but the $110 is US dollars.

Downunder discrimination lives!!



Cheers

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Re: World's worst photo tutorial

[Mark Roberts]

Mark Roberts wrote:

>my favorite one is step 9, which reminds me of this old New Yorker
>cartoon: http://tinyurl.com/phae39r

Step 6 is a close second: "dogde" and burn

I know spelling flames are a bit lame, but this isn't an email or
usenet post, it's a "tutorial" (in the loosest sense of the word)
that's posted on a web site and should have been proofread – or at
least spellchecked – first.
 
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Re: World's worst photo tutorial

[Daniel J. Matyola]

I LOVE that cartoon!

Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 2:55 PM, Mark Roberts
 wrote:
> If you want to learn how to do over-the-top HDR nature photos (hey, I
> said IF!) then this page... won't help much:
> http://camerapixo.com/resources/10-step-processing-technique
>
> Every step is so vague and general that it tells you nothing, but my
> favorite one is step 9, which reminds me of this old New Yorker
> cartoon: http://tinyurl.com/phae39r
>
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Re: World's worst photo tutorial

[P.J. Alling]

That was on my door when I was a graduate student.

On 10/30/2015 10:39 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

Daniel J. Matyola wrote:


I LOVE that cartoon!
http://tinyurl.com/phae39r

 It's a classic, eh? It's a favorite among scientists, too.

BTW, that "tutorial" bugged me so much I blogged about it:
http://www.robertstech.com/blog/?p=1789

  



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Re: World's worst photo tutorial

[P.J. Alling]

On 10/30/2015 7:00 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

John wrote:


On 10/30/2015 4:05 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

Jack Davis wrote:


From: "Mark Roberts" 

If you want to learn how to do over-the-top HDR nature photos (hey, I
said IF!) then this page... won't help much:
http://camerapixo.com/resources/10-step-processing-technique

Every step is so vague and general that it tells you nothing, but my
favorite one is step 9, which reminds me of this old New Yorker
cartoon: http://tinyurl.com/phae39r

Painfully inept work!

Someone posted a link to it on Facebook. I literally thought it was a
joke at first.

It looks like some kind of millennial vanity press. If you don't know
how to make a Blurb book of your own, you can pay these guys to do it
for you.

Also, send them $99 & they'll send you "Press Credentials".

Indeed. I hadn't bothered looking at the rest of the site but you
appear to have got the gist of it.

  


Well crap, I can make my own press credentials, I was forced to for a 
paper I worked for at one time.  No one ever questioned them.


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Re: World's worst photo tutorial

[Mark Roberts]

Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

>I LOVE that cartoon!

>http://tinyurl.com/phae39r

 It's a classic, eh? It's a favorite among scientists, too.

BTW, that "tutorial" bugged me so much I blogged about it:
http://www.robertstech.com/blog/?p=1789

 
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Re: World's worst photo tutorial

[Larry Colen]

Mark Roberts wrote:

Daniel J. Matyola wrote:


I LOVE that cartoon!



http://tinyurl.com/phae39r


  It's a classic, eh? It's a favorite among scientists, too.

BTW, that "tutorial" bugged me so much I blogged about it:
http://www.robertstech.com/blog/?p=1789


You didn't even comment that everything he says to do in photoshop can 
be done in lightroom.







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Re: World's worst photo tutorial

[Mark Roberts]

John wrote:

>On 10/30/2015 4:05 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:
>> Jack Davis wrote:
>>
>>> From: "Mark Roberts" 
>>>
>>> If you want to learn how to do over-the-top HDR nature photos (hey, I
>>> said IF!) then this page... won't help much:
>>> http://camerapixo.com/resources/10-step-processing-technique
>>>
>>> Every step is so vague and general that it tells you nothing, but my
>>> favorite one is step 9, which reminds me of this old New Yorker
>>> cartoon: http://tinyurl.com/phae39r
>>>
>>> Painfully inept work!
>>
>> Someone posted a link to it on Facebook. I literally thought it was a
>> joke at first.
>
>It looks like some kind of millennial vanity press. If you don't know
>how to make a Blurb book of your own, you can pay these guys to do it
>for you.
>
>Also, send them $99 & they'll send you "Press Credentials".

Indeed. I hadn't bothered looking at the rest of the site but you
appear to have got the gist of it.

 
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Re: World's worst photo tutorial

[Jack Davis]

Painfully inept work!

J

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From: "Mark Roberts" 
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Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 11:55:43 AM
Subject: World's worst photo tutorial

If you want to learn how to do over-the-top HDR nature photos (hey, I
said IF!) then this page... won't help much:
http://camerapixo.com/resources/10-step-processing-technique

Every step is so vague and general that it tells you nothing, but my
favorite one is step 9, which reminds me of this old New Yorker
cartoon: http://tinyurl.com/phae39r
 
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Re: World's worst photo tutorial

[WILSON MICHAEL]

> On 30 October 2015 at 18:55 Mark Roberts  wrote:
> 
> 
> If you want to learn how to do over-the-top HDR nature photos (hey, I
> said IF!) then this page... won't help much:
> http://camerapixo.com/resources/10-step-processing-technique
> 
> Every step is so vague and general that it tells you nothing, but my
> favorite one is step 9, which reminds me of this old New Yorker
> cartoon: http://tinyurl.com/phae39r
>  

You buy the double pro version of Photoshop - you know; the one where the colour
slider goes up to 11.

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Re: World's worst photo tutorial

[Mark Roberts]

Jack Davis wrote:

>From: "Mark Roberts" 
>
>If you want to learn how to do over-the-top HDR nature photos (hey, I
>said IF!) then this page... won't help much:
>http://camerapixo.com/resources/10-step-processing-technique
>
>Every step is so vague and general that it tells you nothing, but my
>favorite one is step 9, which reminds me of this old New Yorker
>cartoon: http://tinyurl.com/phae39r
> 
>Painfully inept work!

Someone posted a link to it on Facebook. I literally thought it was a
joke at first.
 
-- 
Mark Roberts - Photography & Multimedia
www.robertstech.com





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