Re: SDM in Cold Weather

2010-04-16 Thread AlunFoto
2010/4/14 Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com:
 Thanks..I guess, Jostine. ;-))
 I'll check it again when like conditions exist.

Not much of a contribution, I guess.
But it sounds like something that isn't supposed to be so.

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Re: SDM in Cold Weather

2010-04-15 Thread David Mann
On Apr 15, 2010, at 1:06 PM, Jack Davis wrote:

 Haven't heard any Meadowlarks in mine..yet, but if I notice Squeaky the cat 
 showing a keen interest in it, I'll know the reason why. 8-(

Have we seen a photo of Squeaky?  There's been a bit of a kitty drought on PDML 
lately...

Dave
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Re: SDM in Cold Weather

2010-04-15 Thread Jack Davis
I'll tell her that her public is calling and see what I can arrange. (She's 
very temperamental). ;-)

Jack

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 Date: Thursday, April 15, 2010, 2:09 AM
 On Apr 15, 2010, at 1:06 PM, Jack
 Davis wrote:
 
  Haven't heard any Meadowlarks in mine..yet, but if I
 notice Squeaky the cat showing a keen interest in it, I'll
 know the reason why. 8-(
 
 Have we seen a photo of Squeaky?  There's been a bit
 of a kitty drought on PDML lately...
 
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Re: SDM in Cold Weather

2010-04-15 Thread Ken Waller

In the Automotive industry its sometimes referred to as an assometer.

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Subject: Re: SDM in Cold Weather



2010/4/14 Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com:


OH, don't say that, ecke! ;) Again!


Yeah it is my 2nd lens plus repaired once. These things seem to
happen. As long as it is under warranty I'm OK with it.

I think you may be referring to what my brother calls drag ass 
drivers.?


I'm not sure what that means but we have a colloquial term in German
Popometer which translates to buttmeter (or perhaps
buttmeasure). For example, my car has this engine shake in idle when
running on LPG that is not there on 95 Octane. It's there since Subaru
replaced the engine under warranty at 43810 km. Also, the pedals
vibrate. It's there, it's annoying and my buttmeter picks it up
because I drive that bucket every day. People at garages don't detect
it for lack of reference. I guess I will have to live with it.

Does that example make it clear?
Cheers
Ecke



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Re: SDM in Cold Weather

2010-04-15 Thread eckinator
2010/4/15 Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com:

 In the Automotive industry its sometimes referred to as an assometer.

That's what I meant. So my SDM is slower by an assometer margin - can
that be said AND understood?

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Re: SDM in Cold Weather

2010-04-15 Thread John Francis
On Apr 15, 2010, at 1:06 PM, Jack Davis wrote:

 Haven't heard any Meadowlarks in mine..yet, but if I notice Squeaky the cat 
 showing a keen interest in it, I'll know the reason why. 8-(

If you hear Meadowlarks from your SDM drive,
does this mean you got stuck with a Lemon?


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Re: SDM in Cold Weather

2010-04-15 Thread Larry Colen

On 4/15/2010 2:52 PM, John Francis wrote:

On Apr 15, 2010, at 1:06 PM, Jack Davis wrote:


Haven't heard any Meadowlarks in mine..yet, but if I notice Squeaky the cat 
showing a keen interest in it, I'll know the reason why. 8-(


If you hear Meadowlarks from your SDM drive,
does this mean you got stuck with a Lemon?




Ouch.

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Re: SDM in Cold Weather

2010-04-15 Thread Jack Davis
Ex Globetrotter fan? 
That's a pretty fair reach back, John. ;)

Jack

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 On Apr 15, 2010, at 1:06 PM, Jack
 Davis wrote:
 
  Haven't heard any Meadowlarks in mine..yet, but if I
 notice Squeaky the cat showing a keen interest in it, I'll
 know the reason why. 8-(
 
 If you hear Meadowlarks from your SDM drive,
 does this mean you got stuck with a Lemon?
 
 
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Re: SDM in Cold Weather

2010-04-15 Thread Jack Davis
You're right, Larry! :=O

Jack

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 Date: Thursday, April 15, 2010, 2:53 PM
 On 4/15/2010 2:52 PM, John Francis
 wrote:
  On Apr 15, 2010, at 1:06 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
 
  Haven't heard any Meadowlarks in mine..yet, but if
 I notice Squeaky the cat showing a keen interest in it, I'll
 know the reason why. 8-(
 
  If you hear Meadowlarks from your SDM drive,
  does this mean you got stuck with a Lemon?
 
 
 
 Ouch.
 
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SDM in Cold Weather

2010-04-14 Thread Jack Davis
Something I've been meaning to ask about. Has anyone had the experience of 
shooting with an SDM lens, fresh out of the bag from a warm car and into early 
morning air chilly enough to produce visible breath fog.
This happened one morning while at the coast DA* 50~135). AF felt as though it 
were operating in at least cool molasses. I was attempting to track some birds 
in flight and had to pick them up early and try holding focus awaiting the 
shutter.
Later in the day, I took it out into the warming sun for a few minutes and 
tried it again. This time it seemed to be normally quick in response.
I was relieved, but made me wonder if it's starting to wimp out. K20D battery 
appeared to be fully charged.
Any such experiences?

Thanks!

Jack


  

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Re: SDM in Cold Weather

2010-04-14 Thread AlunFoto
2010/4/14 Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com:
 Any such experiences?

None here, iirc.
Not with the mentioned lens, though.
Jostein

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Re: SDM in Cold Weather

2010-04-14 Thread Jack Davis
Thanks..I guess, Jostine. ;-))
I'll check it again when like conditions exist.

Jack

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 2010/4/14 Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com:
  Any such experiences?
 
 None here, iirc.
 Not with the mentioned lens, though.
 Jostein
 
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Re: SDM in Cold Weather

2010-04-14 Thread eckinator
16-50 took a second of thinking before sdm moved after being taken out
from +20°C into -13°C and seemed a wee wee wee bit slow after that,
sort of driver's butt slow if you know what I mean, i.e. not
discernible to anyone else. it did the same once after that without a
huge temperature drop so while my feeling attributes it to rapid
cooling of the outside of the lens, it may have also been just a sign
of SDM being on the way out yet again
hth ecke

2010/4/14 Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com:
 Something I've been meaning to ask about. Has anyone had the experience of 
 shooting with an SDM lens, fresh out of the bag from a warm car and into 
 early morning air chilly enough to produce visible breath fog.
 This happened one morning while at the coast DA* 50~135). AF felt as though 
 it were operating in at least cool molasses. I was attempting to track some 
 birds in flight and had to pick them up early and try holding focus awaiting 
 the shutter.
 Later in the day, I took it out into the warming sun for a few minutes and 
 tried it again. This time it seemed to be normally quick in response.
 I was relieved, but made me wonder if it's starting to wimp out. K20D battery 
 appeared to be fully charged.
 Any such experiences?

 Thanks!

 Jack




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Re: SDM in Cold Weather

2010-04-14 Thread Jack Davis
OH, don't say that, ecke! ;) Again! 
I think you may be referring to what my brother calls drag ass drivers.?

Jack

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 From: eckinator eckina...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: SDM in Cold Weather
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 Date: Wednesday, April 14, 2010, 11:25 AM
 16-50 took a second of thinking
 before sdm moved after being taken out
 from +20°C into -13°C and seemed a wee wee wee bit slow
 after that,
 sort of driver's butt slow if you know what I mean, i.e.
 not
 discernible to anyone else. it did the same once after that
 without a
 huge temperature drop so while my feeling attributes it to
 rapid
 cooling of the outside of the lens, it may have also been
 just a sign
 of SDM being on the way out yet again
 hth ecke
 
 2010/4/14 Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com:
  Something I've been meaning to ask about. Has anyone
 had the experience of shooting with an SDM lens, fresh out
 of the bag from a warm car and into early morning air chilly
 enough to produce visible breath fog.
  This happened one morning while at the coast DA*
 50~135). AF felt as though it were operating in at least
 cool molasses. I was attempting to track some birds in
 flight and had to pick them up early and try holding focus
 awaiting the shutter.
  Later in the day, I took it out into the warming sun
 for a few minutes and tried it again. This time it seemed to
 be normally quick in response.
  I was relieved, but made me wonder if it's starting to
 wimp out. K20D battery appeared to be fully charged.
  Any such experiences?
 
  Thanks!
 
  Jack
 
 
 
 
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Re: SDM in Cold Weather

2010-04-14 Thread eckinator
2010/4/14 Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com:

 OH, don't say that, ecke! ;) Again!

Yeah it is my 2nd lens plus repaired once. These things seem to
happen. As long as it is under warranty I'm OK with it.

 I think you may be referring to what my brother calls drag ass drivers.?

I'm not sure what that means but we have a colloquial term in German
Popometer which translates to buttmeter (or perhaps
buttmeasure). For example, my car has this engine shake in idle when
running on LPG that is not there on 95 Octane. It's there since Subaru
replaced the engine under warranty at 43810 km. Also, the pedals
vibrate. It's there, it's annoying and my buttmeter picks it up
because I drive that bucket every day. People at garages don't detect
it for lack of reference. I guess I will have to live with it.

Does that example make it clear?
Cheers
Ecke

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Re: SDM in Cold Weather

2010-04-14 Thread Jack Davis
It does, and it's a bit different than what I had guessed. A drag ass is a 
person who refuses to go over the speed limit. ;)

Jack

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 From: eckinator eckina...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: SDM in Cold Weather
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 Date: Wednesday, April 14, 2010, 2:16 PM
 2010/4/14 Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com:
 
  OH, don't say that, ecke! ;) Again!
 
 Yeah it is my 2nd lens plus repaired once. These things
 seem to
 happen. As long as it is under warranty I'm OK with it.
 
  I think you may be referring to what my brother calls
 drag ass drivers.?
 
 I'm not sure what that means but we have a colloquial term
 in German
 Popometer which translates to buttmeter (or perhaps
 buttmeasure). For example, my car has this engine shake
 in idle when
 running on LPG that is not there on 95 Octane. It's there
 since Subaru
 replaced the engine under warranty at 43810 km. Also, the
 pedals
 vibrate. It's there, it's annoying and my buttmeter picks
 it up
 because I drive that bucket every day. People at garages
 don't detect
 it for lack of reference. I guess I will have to live with
 it.
 
 Does that example make it clear?
 Cheers
 Ecke
 
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Re: SDM in Cold Weather

2010-04-14 Thread eckinator
2010/4/14 Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com:

 It does, and it's a bit different than what I had guessed. A drag ass is a 
 person who refuses to go over the speed limit. ;)

Right. I knew dragging ass for being slow and hauling ass for hurrying
up so I was kind of guessing along those lines. Thanks for making it
clear nonetheless. One of those drove me to hospital once. The people
accompanying me were freaking out but he refused to be bothered or so
I was told later. The hospital had to interrupt an appendix operation
but they fixed me up fine. Looking back I still think calling an
ambulance would have made more sense.

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Re: SDM in Cold Weather

2010-04-14 Thread Christine Aguila
Before my bird-chirping sound now audible on the DA* 50-135, I never 
experienced what you describe below.  But I have to send my lens in for a 
check-up and it's a bit more sluggish now as well as chirpy.  Cheers, 
Christine



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Subject: SDM in Cold Weather


Something I've been meaning to ask about. Has anyone had the experience of 
shooting with an SDM lens, fresh out of the bag from a warm car and into 
early morning air chilly enough to produce visible breath fog.
This happened one morning while at the coast DA* 50~135). AF felt as 
though it were operating in at least cool molasses. I was attempting to 
track some birds in flight and had to pick them up early and try holding 
focus awaiting the shutter.
Later in the day, I took it out into the warming sun for a few minutes and 
tried it again. This time it seemed to be normally quick in response.
I was relieved, but made me wonder if it's starting to wimp out. K20D 
battery appeared to be fully charged.

Any such experiences?

Thanks!

Jack




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Re: SDM in Cold Weather

2010-04-14 Thread Jack Davis
Haven't heard any Meadowlarks in mine..yet, but if I notice Squeaky the cat 
showing a keen interest in it, I'll know the reason why. 8-(

Jack

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 From: Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net
 Subject: Re: SDM in Cold Weather
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 Date: Wednesday, April 14, 2010, 5:28 PM
 Before my bird-chirping sound now
 audible on the DA* 50-135, I never experienced what you
 describe below.  But I have to send my lens in for a
 check-up and it's a bit more sluggish now as well as
 chirpy.  Cheers, Christine
 
 
 - Original Message - From: Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 10:06 AM
 Subject: SDM in Cold Weather
 
 
  Something I've been meaning to ask about. Has anyone
 had the experience of shooting with an SDM lens, fresh out
 of the bag from a warm car and into early morning air chilly
 enough to produce visible breath fog.
  This happened one morning while at the coast DA*
 50~135). AF felt as though it were operating in at least
 cool molasses. I was attempting to track some birds in
 flight and had to pick them up early and try holding focus
 awaiting the shutter.
  Later in the day, I took it out into the warming sun
 for a few minutes and tried it again. This time it seemed to
 be normally quick in response.
  I was relieved, but made me wonder if it's starting to
 wimp out. K20D battery appeared to be fully charged.
  Any such experiences?
  
  Thanks!
  
  Jack
  
  
  
  
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