Re: Samsung lenses

2010-11-12 Thread John Sessoms

From: Brian Walters


On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 20:03 -0600, Jeffery Smith
jsmith...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 This has undoubtedly been asked before, but here goes. Are Samsung
 cameras/lenses corresponding to similar Pentax items not sold in the USA?
 I recall that Samsung started a line of dSLR cameras and lenses (badged
 as Schneider) a year or two ago, but have never heard of or seen them
 since.


I think Samsung's days of re-badging Pentaxes is over.  They stopped
doing that with the GX20 (the equivalent of the K20D). They are more
interested now in developing their NX models.

I don't know if the re-badged models were ever sold in the USA (they
probably were) but as they are now superseded, it's not surprising that
they aren't seen.



I thought the Samsung GX10  GX20 were considered to be co-development 
between Pentax  Samasung, rather than simply re-badged Pentaxes.


There were trifling differences in control layout and operation, as well 
as Samsung offering only DNG for their raw file.


Any Schneider Kreuznach lens made to mount on the GX10  GX20 should 
be KAF2  usable on Pentax. I think there may have been one or two 
Samsung Schneider Kreuznach lens designs that were not re-badged 
Pentax lenses, but I couldn't say what they were.


I have seen the GX10 at least once, even held one in my hands. As I 
remember it, it was almost, but not quite identical to my K-10D.


It was at a Wolf Camera store, and you know how that turned out.

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Re: Samsung lenses

2010-11-12 Thread Brian Walters
On Fri, 12 Nov 2010 08:16 -0500, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com
wrote:


 I thought the Samsung GX10  GX20 were considered to be co-development 
 between Pentax  Samasung, rather than simply re-badged Pentaxes.


You may be right although I thought Samsung's involvement with the GX20
was mainly to do with the sensor.  I'd be surprised if Samsung had much
involvement with the earlier models, given that they used Sony sensors.
I think Samsung may have used its own image processing train.

I wonder if anyone ever did any comparisons between the image quality of
the GX20 and K20D, particularly at higher ISOs.  



Cheers

Brian

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Re: Samsung lenses

2010-11-12 Thread Adam Maas
On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 8:16 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:
 From: Brian Walters


 On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 20:03 -0600, Jeffery Smith
 jsmith...@bellsouth.net wrote:

  This has undoubtedly been asked before, but here goes. Are Samsung
  cameras/lenses corresponding to similar Pentax items not sold in the
  USA?
  I recall that Samsung started a line of dSLR cameras and lenses (badged
  as Schneider) a year or two ago, but have never heard of or seen them
  since.

 I think Samsung's days of re-badging Pentaxes is over.  They stopped
 doing that with the GX20 (the equivalent of the K20D). They are more
 interested now in developing their NX models.

 I don't know if the re-badged models were ever sold in the USA (they
 probably were) but as they are now superseded, it's not surprising that
 they aren't seen.


 I thought the Samsung GX10  GX20 were considered to be co-development
 between Pentax  Samasung, rather than simply re-badged Pentaxes.

 There were trifling differences in control layout and operation, as well as
 Samsung offering only DNG for their raw file.

 Any Schneider Kreuznach lens made to mount on the GX10  GX20 should be
 KAF2  usable on Pentax. I think there may have been one or two Samsung
 Schneider Kreuznach lens designs that were not re-badged Pentax lenses,
 but I couldn't say what they were.

 I have seen the GX10 at least once, even held one in my hands. As I remember
 it, it was almost, but not quite identical to my K-10D.

 It was at a Wolf Camera store, and you know how that turned out.


The GX10 and GX20 were fundamentally Pentax cameras with fairly
significant changes to the software and new external shells. The
earlier *ist-based bodies differed only in software and markings.
Pentax designed the camera and processing system, Samsung contributed
the sensor (GX20 only) and then modified the designs to suit.

All of the K mount Schneider Kreuznach lenses were rebadged Pentax
lenses (but non-K mount examples are not).


-Adam

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Samsung lenses

2010-11-11 Thread Jeffery Smith
This has undoubtedly been asked before, but here goes. Are Samsung 
cameras/lenses corresponding to similar Pentax items not sold in the USA? I 
recall that Samsung started a line of dSLR cameras and lenses (badged as 
Schneider) a year or two ago, but have never heard of or seen them since.

Jeffery
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Re: Samsung lenses

2010-11-11 Thread Brian Walters
On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 20:03 -0600, Jeffery Smith
jsmith...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 This has undoubtedly been asked before, but here goes. Are Samsung
 cameras/lenses corresponding to similar Pentax items not sold in the USA?
 I recall that Samsung started a line of dSLR cameras and lenses (badged
 as Schneider) a year or two ago, but have never heard of or seen them
 since.


I think Samsung's days of re-badging Pentaxes is over.  They stopped
doing that with the GX20 (the equivalent of the K20D). They are more
interested now in developing their NX models.

I don't know if the re-badged models were ever sold in the USA (they
probably were) but as they are now superseded, it's not surprising that
they aren't seen.



Cheers

Brian

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Re: Samsung lenses

2010-11-11 Thread Miserere
On 11 November 2010 22:14, Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm wrote:

 I think Samsung's days of re-badging Pentaxes is over.  They stopped
 doing that with the GX20 (the equivalent of the K20D). They are more
 interested now in developing their NX models.

 I don't know if the re-badged models were ever sold in the USA (they
 probably were) but as they are now superseded, it's not surprising that
 they aren't seen.

 Cheers

 Brian

I'm pretty sure I saw the Samsung P/KAF lenses on BH at some point.
The funny thing is they were a lot more expensive than the Pentax
equivalents.


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Re: Samsung lenses

2010-11-11 Thread P. J. Alling
BH had them in limited amounts for a while.  I was thinking it would be 
kind of cool to have a Schneider 35mm f2.0, but it proved to be even 
more expensive than the Pentax version...


On 11/11/2010 10:14 PM, Brian Walters wrote:

On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 20:03 -0600, Jeffery Smith
jsmith...@bellsouth.net  wrote:

This has undoubtedly been asked before, but here goes. Are Samsung
cameras/lenses corresponding to similar Pentax items not sold in the USA?
I recall that Samsung started a line of dSLR cameras and lenses (badged
as Schneider) a year or two ago, but have never heard of or seen them
since.


I think Samsung's days of re-badging Pentaxes is over.  They stopped
doing that with the GX20 (the equivalent of the K20D). They are more
interested now in developing their NX models.

I don't know if the re-badged models were ever sold in the USA (they
probably were) but as they are now superseded, it's not surprising that
they aren't seen.



Cheers

Brian

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